[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ IAA edition. &g

any of you guys watch snowcat on youtube? he's the shit.

>>14897405
Its like pawnstars. I know its garbage but I cant stop watching.

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>>14897405
Yeah, nah.

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Katana.

>>14897405
naw man subie is the coolest: >>>/wsg/1037753

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post baikus to prove you're not a nobike

>that first segment
remind yourself of what happens when you fuck up, /dbt/. you owe it to yourself. be cautious and deliberate in your riding, friends!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr3o_65AMjU

>>14897427
holy fucking R I P

>>14897415
go away rin

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>>14897424
even better, a selfie with my baiku

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>>14897435

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I bought this for 850 dollars. I was thinking of parting it out, but if it's not too damaged I might fix it instead.

>mfw people ignore the big ass "slower traffic keep right" sign and I wanted to cry up the hill

>>14897427
Half of these are the motorcycle driver being a fucking idiot.

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What is a good first bike for 6-3 210 nub?
Should I buy a used bike or new CB500F? What should I check on a used bike before buying it?

>>14897434
yeah 45 on the speedo before the front starts to buckle and he loses his braking power, semi was probably going at least 30. dude is seriously fucked up if not dead

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>>14897454
derp

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>>14897427
that's no good

>>14897457
yeah. don't be a fucking idiot. ride safe.

>>14897427
>riding beyond skill level, taking a corner wide
>speeding
>not being cautious near an intersection
>riding in blind spots of distracted drivers
>lane splitting way faster than the flow of traffic
>fucking up a wheelie


All of these videos end up the same, they're all easily avoidable.

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>>14897424
desu senpai

>>14897427
Had a dream I a car cut me off and made me T-Bone them. Then lying on the ground trying to get up realized I couldnt feel the rest of my body. Fuck me amirite?

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>>14897474
I want to make a fender for my EXC out of a traffic cone.

Also when are you going to post dank webm? You got a helmet cam now right?

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>>14897476
>wake up
>whew it was just a dream
>realize you're in the hospital

>>14897483
I should do that. Haven't gotten to do much riding yet, but we also haven't had a straight week of decent weather yet.

>>14897464
nobody ever thinks they're the "slower" traffic, just that everyone else is the "too fast" traffic.

>everyone slower than you is a retard, anyone faster is insane

>>14897474
Why the cones?

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What is this godmachine?

>>14897506
We were heading to a parking lot to teach some grills how to ride and happened to have cones so we decided to use them.

>>14897502
Really, you shouldn't be in the left lane unless you're passing regardless of how fast you're going.

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hate all you fags, i hope you fags get raped by tyrones and die of aids.

Exept for
angry anon
Cc81something

Harley anon
Rebel anon
Drop anon
Nighthawk 250 anon
Wr anon
cb650f anon
Fireblade anon
Copycat harley anon
Marauder anon
Balerares anon with cb250
Cbr250 anon
Strayan cbr1000 anon
Wings anon
Across anon
Bmw gs anon
Buell anons
Cbr250 yuroanon
Moffman
Nighthawk anon
cb400f italian anon
still no grom anon
sv650 white anon
mv agusta anon
braid
cum tribute anon
Dr350 anon
gramps the peadophile
aprilia anon
ohiostorm
cactus
fkg
german Katana Anon

The Holy list repels the Skid demom.

>>14897509
the real question is:
Why didnt you ride underneath it?

>>14897509
Truly a weapon to surpass metal gear.

>>14897509
Looks like a crop sprayer that's elevated to go over the corn instead of damaging it.

>>14897515
what if it's an empty road and the right lane is filled with potholes? Or if you need to make a left turn soon?

>>14897509
Probably a crop duster or similar.

>>14897515
If you see someone behind you approaching, move right. If you are behind a vehicle and wish to pass do so. Not that hard.

>>14897523
I really wanted to but I was afraid I would misjudge the height and whack my head off.

>>14897528
>>14897526
Would it make a good race car?

>>14897522
>tfw doucheanon is gonna get raped by tyrone

>>14897527
What if, what if, what if. You can make up a what if for anything. The law is stay right unless passing. There was just a sign. Its a big giant hill, the right lane is for slow vehicles.

Someone coming up behind you? Move right. If the road is shit, get back over after they've passed. Not hard.

>>14897533
You shouldn't move into the right lane when someone approaches from behind because you shouldn't be cruising in the passing lane in the first place.

>>14897542
what if I fuct ur mum?
because I did.

>>14897451
I buy from copart too and ive bought 20plus bikes and i can tell you that you can buy a NON REKT ninja 250/300 for like $1200 or a sv650 for like $200 more.

>>14897442
going into the collage folder m8

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>>14897522
If you could add banana ninja homo to the holy list, I'd be mighty appreciative.

It's been two days since I left my bike for service, should I swing by the shop tomorrow to see how it's coming along?

>>14897522
aren't you tired of spamming that shit? I guess getting so many replies makes it addicting though...

>>14897572
Fight them for your baiku.

>>14897585
Can I fight them with money for the services they provided?

>>14897590
Sure,if you have some sort of vagina where your dick should be.

>>14897596
Fine I'll go guns blazing, you fuck.

>>14897462
get an old ninja 500. cheap, simple to work on, a blast to ride, and very user-friendly.

>>14897598
Don't forget to get a complementary air freshner.

>>14897509
it's a Spra-Coupe.

>>14897606
Black ice right?

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Have another bad quality webm since 3mb limit

>>14897556
Already have a working, running, registered Ninja 250 under my name. This would be to flip around.

>>14897609
Obviously. If you can't smell it in your helmet at 160mph while it's hanging from your mirror, you don't have enough.

>>14897615
Nice lines.

Is your windscreen a corner of a rubbermaid container?

>>14897623
Thanks, I'll get ready for the dawn tomorrow.

>>14897619
nice, but you have to invest at least $600 more to get it in decent condition and sell it for double.

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>>14897624
It does look like it on that video, doesn't it?

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>>14897615
WE NEED MORE THAN 3MB

what do you webm fags use to make your webms?

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>>14897638
Does /wsg/ let you have 4mb? Because a lot of mine would also be better with sound.

>>14897643
yes

>>14897626
Remember, it's not illegal to shoot at police if you remind them that you're a sovereign citizen.

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>>14897633
Hypermotard anon? Foam flip webm?
>trashcan screens

>>14897649
But what if I am the police? Then would it be justified murder?

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>>14897642
It used to be called "webm for retards" but I think they changed it since people got their feelings hurt by a meme.

Yeah its webm for bakas now.

>>14897650
Have a foam flip.

>>14897631
Oh, I know. But I'm seeing them for about 5000-7500 on Craigslist.

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>>14897653
YES it is hypermotard anon! <3
Out of curiousity, what is the foam from? A fridge?

>>14897659
I don't even remember. Might have been a tv.

Also I'm glad my chicken strips aren't like that anymore.

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>>14897667
Yeah man, you've been getting in some good lines. So proud.

What bike did you have before? For some reaason I keep thinking you had an r6 or something...

>>14897657
>Oh, I know. But I'm seeing them for about 5000-7500 on Craigslist.
Sorry m8, i tought it was a 250/300, but yeah it all depends on the title status.

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>>>/wsg/1047129


>>14897676
I had a 690smc before this.

Gotta admit its weird having my own pictures posted lol.

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>>14897615
It's actually just confusing more than anything, why would pictures be 4 mb but webm's 3 again?

Why?

that type of thing in your webm is basically the worst thing for compression though, where you have the light changing every 1/4 of a second thanks to the trees.

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>>14897692
Ah, right, was it this??
It's coming back... sorry, I've been kinda forgetful lately.

>Gotta admit its weird having my own pictures posted lol.

well you take good pics.

>>14897650
That's pretty dank. I should make one for my KLX.
Is it just a thin plastic trashcan cut and folded then bolted to the headlight shroud?

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>>14897712
Yup.
Literally.

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>>14897705
Yeah exactly, I knew it would mess with the webm maker. I need to learn all the protune shit with the gopro. I just can't stand the software.

I also had to set it to wide FOV to get enough vertical view. Makes everything look so much slower.


>go to jimmy johns because $1 sub day
>line is long af
>go for a ride instead

>>14897715
What kind of plastic is that flexible though? Do I buy the cheapest trash can I can find?

>Current year
>Being too poor to afford a bike with ABS.

>>14897741
>onedollarsub
legit, shit was jam packed like 100 people in line
>>14897744
Just go to the store and get a feel for them
Rubbermaid makes some good shit.

>>14897707
Yes, that was it. I wish I had done more supermotoey stuff.

I want a grom badly.

>>14897715
That's badass. I have a cookie sheet protecting the headers on my 640.


Later peoples, I'm headed out. More webms later. My friend just bought this new blender and we are going to go test it and see if it blends things that aren't food.

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>>14897745
who cares? The presence or absence of ABS wouldn't be a deciding factor for me buying a bike though, unless it was forced on and couldn't be disabled.

>>14897712
Not him but I'd recommend industrial velcro. That way you don't have to bother with drilling and no big holes in shroud then.

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>>14897758
Getting to the old pics... get a grom, they're like $3k

>cookie sheet
>we are going to go test it and see if it blends things that aren't food.
Sheeeiiittt. Nice. Bye.

>>14897764
I'd be concerned about the velcro adhesive coming off. I might try shoe goo to stick it on, but I've already drilled a hole in the plastic.

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>sc project exhaust finally arrives
>walk it over to the garage hype as fuck to install it
>set up, remove factory exhaust, start unboxing new one
>ceramic coating has a huge chip in it
>test fit and find the flange pipe portion is like 2cm too long for the rear mounting point

fucking italians!

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>>14897745
hello ubermensch

>>14897778
if you already have the hole drilled than might as well just do that. I've been looking into this myself and velcro is just what most recommend.

>>14897789
You should have known better than to buy parts from people who needed help to conquer Ethiopia.

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>>14897805
The hole was drilled for something else, so it won't fit this. I was just saying that to explain the plastic already looks like shit. I've cracked it to by dropping it on a rock.
I've got some velcro that holds together pretty well but the adhesive used to stick it to things isn't as strong as the velcro itself so it pulls off.

>>14897853
>tfw my exhaust is loud and sounds like a snarling animal so it scares away dogs instead of making them come after me


kek

>>14897853
Get some good plstic velcro, legit strength 3M double sticky, not the fabric stuff. The plastic one locks in.

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SUMO KLR?

Cunts on the pipe m8.

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>>14897916
with the shittiest tyres I've ever seen.

>>14897916
>those tires
agh. wtf.

>>14897916
lol are those touring tires?

>>14897853
Ahh I forgot it was ~that~ KLX we were talking about.

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>>14897951
>~that~ KLX
kek. are you saying my KLX stands out as the shittiest?

>>14897936
>>14897946
>>14897948
I will have to get another picture. He works at same place as me.

>>14897963
He ruined the entire purpose of a KLR. Scold him.

this is pretty cool, /dbt/. first person helmet cam from police officers of motorcycle chases in brazil
>get off the bike and immediately the guns come out
can't blame them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33BTSnQFuz0

>>14897980
>implying the KLR is good for off-roading to start with

>>14897986
If it weren't it wouldn't be the best selling dual sport in history.

>>14897986
>Implying I meant purpose was compltely off road
They aren't good on road either. Their good for doing a bit of both. You get rid of one, it ruins what it's for.

>>14897999
My trips erase my grammar mistakes.

>>14897984
fucking squids I swear

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>>14897994
at least like 50% of motorcyclists are retarded, maybe more, 75%?

Why else would the R1200GS be the "Adventure" bike of choice?

Why is harley the biggest selling brand in the USA?

Popularity contests mean nothing when the people are tards.

>>14897999
That's wrong.

The KLR is good both on and offroad. It's not great at either though.

It will be vastly better on the road than a more dedicated dirt bike and better on dirt than a street bike though.

>>14897984
Any clue about what the cops are riding?

>>14898027
The BMW isn't the "adventure bike" of choice though. The KLR is.

The BMW is just the bike of choice for rich faggots who don't actually take adventure touring seriously and stay in hotels their entire trip.

>>14897984
That first guy is a fucking tard. Nothing happened to make him crash. He just literally can't turn.

>>14898041
probably dualsports of some kind, but that's pretty obvious. nothing else really makes any sense for that kind of terrain

>>14898033
That's kind of what I meant by good/excellent, whatever. It doesn't excel in either, but at least it does both for the price. The point still stands though, you get rid of the ability to do one thing that it's known to do (acceptable off road riding), makes the bike pretty useless. Might as well buy a 500 dollar gl500.

>>14898044
BMW's bikes are geared towards adventure touring. They're not like a serious off roading oriented adventure bike. They should just make the Sertao a standard model, give it another gear, and crank a little more power out of the motor.

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>>14898041
i don't know dirt/dualsport well enough to know what this is but i'm sure someone can tell

Okay DBT, I wanna get into offroad motorcycles, and figured a dual-sport would be the best way to start. I think I've narrowed my choices down to a WR250R or a DRZ400s. I have a few years of riding a Ninja 650 and an SV650. Good choices? Should I add something else to the list?

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>>14898033
miss my shitbike. horrible performance but has a certain charm.

>>14898065
how dedicated are you to wanting to be offroad? Most of the time or only some of the time? DR 650 all the way though.

>>14898053
>>14897999
Putting on touring tires don't take away its off-road ability though. Most of those bikes spend 90+% of their time on pavement so he put on tires for that.

KLRs are also chosen because they're comfy and easy to set up for longer trips

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>>14897462
CB500F would be too small for you. Get a Kawa ER6N or a Suzuki SFV650

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DID SOMEONE SAY KLR?

>>14898059
BMW bikes are too unreliable for real adventure touring.

The only reason they're so popular is because of the badge. The V-Strom and Versys are better for the road-oriented touring category, though if I had to pick a bike for traveling through shitty countries I'd still take a KLR over any of those. Especially if someone were to finally get around to selling the diesel version.

>>14898080
Nice hose clamps.

>>14898073
I've been looking at the KLR for a while now. Heard a bit from both sides. What exactly makes the KLR shit? I watch a lot of reviews on them and they ride pretty nice offroad as long as you're not doing crazy trails. They seem to do 75-80mph okay for quite some distance. what am I missing?

>>14898073
You can improve the performance pretty significantly with the 22 cent mod, a 685 kit, and a 16 tooth front sprocket.

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>>14898085

The radiator shroud is zip-tied on too look in the bottom right

>>14898082
>BMW bikes are too unreliable for real adventure touring.
you got meme'd

>>14898076
I don't know man, stock tires alone make it pretty hard to do anything out there. Most of the time people have to buy different tires to get that decent off road experience. And I doubt those tires can make it far off the roads without sliding its pigfat backend out.

>>14898086
The complaint is that it's fairly anemic at passing at highway speeds and the DR is better at everything that isn't on pavement.

The DR isn't as good on the road though, and that's where most of your miles are going to be regardless so I don't really take DR fanboys seriously. You're not going to use a 650 dual sport if you're doing anything serious off road anyway.

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>>14898098
I've ridden trails with sport bike tires. As long as it's not muddy it's really not bad.

>>14898080
>>14898095
It's too bad Kawasaki switched to a brittle ABS plastic for the fairings on the new models. The old plastic is much better.

Why isn't anyone making aftermarket new fairings with the old material?

>>14898041
They ride XT660Zs.

>>14898086
at 75mph it will burn just a bit of oil. also the vibration at that speed is pretty bad like all thumpers. DO NOT keep the stock tires that came on it. Avon Distanzias did great on mine. make sure the "doohickey" mod has been done and keep the oil topped off and you'll be fine. GREAT around town bike. what makes the KLR shit for most people is the considerable brake dive in corners from the overly soft suspension. also the oil burning I just mentioned but nothing the 685/705 big bore kit won't fix. it was plagued with improper cylinder honing from the factory and Kawasaki has swept it under the rug for 25 years.

>>14897844
well, good news update friendo! the reason it wouldn't fit was because it was hitting against a rubber gasket sleeve on the pipe from the cat that was so covered in filth from a 4k mile roadtrip I had assumed it was part of the dump pipe from the cat.

now I just need to wait for the fucking italians to ship me a replacement exhaust that isn't chipped.

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>>14898078
>SFV

"no"

SV650N over SFV, every time.

>>14898104
I don't think passing is really on the minds of those doing long trips. Regular commuting, I can see the downside though. DR's look more off road oriented so I see why those aren't highlighted as "adventure" as much as the KLR's.

>you're not going to use a 650 dual sport if you're doing anything serious off road anyways
I can see that reasoning, that's what dirt bikes are for

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>>14898097
They're 3x more likely to have a problem than a Yamaha and more than twice as likely as a Kawasaki.

>>14898090
Mine had every mod you could do but you can't polish a turd.

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>>14898137
gotten worse since then

>Inb4 FACTS DON'T REAL!

>>14898075
I don't know yet. Definitely not motorcross stuff, more trail riding. But hopefully this bike will tell me if I want to just mess around on single track stuff, or be more aggressive. I do want something I can ride to the trail via highway if necessary, and something with a decent maintenance routine, not like a dirtbike's.

>>14898118
ah damn, I thought that was just the 08 version with the oil burning. Do they really not fix that stuff? What's the reasoning behind not fixing what seems like easy fixes. I've watched some of those fix-factory-settings mods on youtube, and it's something a child could even learn with the proper tools.

>>14898137
Those are meaningless out of context.
Not all engines are the same.
Not all bikes come with the same standard equipment.
BMW offers heated grips standard, minor electrical problems will always be more common place than mechanical failures.

>>14898143
That's pretty awful.

>>14898152
>muh heated grips
Because you can't install those on a Japanese bike and still have a lot fewer problems for half the price amirite

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>>14898152
come up with some statistics that suggest they are reliable then, you fucks never can.

>>14898143
>>14898137
What do you expect from american factory workers? I know a few factory workers for Toyota around here, they get paid a shit ton to do lazy work. It's crazy. Unions laws, baka

>>14898149
the 08 was particularly bad but all KLRs have the potential for oil burning. mine was bad enough until I did the 685 kit that I never changed the oil since it was always fresh lol. the suspension can be fixed with a fork swap from EMIG racing and ohlins rear shock but by the time you put that much money in it you could've gotten a much better machine stock. the charm in these bikes though is their rugged invincibility. LOCTITE EVERY BOLT YOU INSTALL. they will vibrate out.

>>14898158
You can install them on anything, but after market parts are not counted in those consumer reports tables. Only factory equipment is taken into account.
Bikes with more factory electrical bullshit attached are more likely to have electrical issues.
Thats how statistics work.

>>14898160
You have literally nothing but middle school level garbage.
Try actually reading that full report.

>>14898165
I don't think that kind of unreliability is a matter of worker quality so much as inherent design issues.

Otherwise the Jap bikes would be turning into complete shit since they've largely outsourced assembly to SE Asia.

Having problems with my bike please help

>xj650
>Runs great when warm.
>very hard to start. once in a while it will start but idles very bad and dies if i give it any throttle
>oil light comes on when i press starter button
>battery dies from trying to start, doesnt seem to hold a charge as i will charge it up, start bike, let bike idle/ride for 10mins and it when it dies (from poor idling/cold running) battery will be dead
>bike previously ran like shit at idle and cold but didnt die.

all ive done is work is lube on my clutch cable.. thinking bad battery?

>>14898181
>trying this hard to justify his overpriced unreliable piece of shit

>>14898137
BMWs come with a million more features that could break or be reported broken. Also it doesn't compare specific bikes. The BMW boxer engines are known to be very reliable.

>>14898118
>always burn oil
>engine internals known to break and leave metal bits flying around inside there
>yet people continue to swear by them as if they're the most reliable bike ever
>saying a big bore kit is a "fix" as if it's something everyone wants to do
KLR fanboys are as delusional as DRZ fanboys.

>>14898175
>LOCTITE EVERY BOLT YOU INSTALL. they will vibrate out.

When I was pulling the old motor out of my DR, I discovered that every bolt on the bike had blue locktite on it. I also discovered that there were several bolts missing, all ones that I'd taken off and had put back on without locktite.

Use locktite.

>>14898190
>shitposting in the most immature way possible because you've never actually read the report those screencaps are taken from

ebin trollan /b/rother XDDDD

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>>14898181
>You have literally nothing but middle school level garbage.

as opposed to what you have to prove they're reliable which is...

what again exactly?

your "feelings"

oh honey you're breaking my heart

>>14898207
>ebin trollan /b/rother XDDDD

oh dear, these BMW people truly do have mental issues.

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>>14898193
>bmwcuck

>>14898193
PROTIP: You don't want something with a million failure prone features when you're riding across Africa or Central/South America. You want something simple and bulletproof.

The KLR has its issues, but once you address them with shit like the doohicky mod, the 22 cent mod, and a 685 kit it's pretty much as reliable as you can get when you're in some bumfuck third world country where the nearest shop that has parts in stock could be hundreds of miles away.

>>14898185
your charging system is messed up if the battery drains while the bike is running. Look into testing or replacing your stator.

>>14898193
every bike has it's flaws. a big bore kit on a single cylinder machine takes 2 hours and you can remove the "doohickey" in 30 minutes and just leave it off if you don't want to pony up the 65$ for Eagle Mikes CNC piece. I put 86k miles on my KLR. how many on yours?

>>14898213
Hey man, he paid $19,000 for that motorcycle and it has a BMW badge so it must be reliable.

>>14897427
Riding DS in t-shirt, shorts, and tennis shoes. Screaming into a deserted forest for help. He would have walked away just fine probably if he was wearing denim jeans with some boots at the minimum.

>>14898228
I'm not really sure why he was yelling help.

Was he expecting a deer to come out of the woods with a first aid kit?

>>14898218
The essential components on the BMWs aren't the ones that fail. It's all the frivolous bullshit that makes the statistics look like that, and you can live without it anyway if it does break.

>>14898228
denim jeans don't do shit in a crash. They will rip apart the instant you hit the ground.

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Yaay new stuff

>>14898213
You're fallaciously taking a meme screen cap out of context, that is the only basis you're arguing from. As an adult, if you can't see the issue with your reasoning then you are a barely functioning retard.

The full page from consumer reports details the methodology and specifics of those figures. The reason why you aren't posting that, aside from the fact that you have never read it in your pathetic childish life, is that you couldn't use it to continue your infantile shitposting.


Go on and prove you aren't a shitposting 12 year old.
Go take a screen cap of the report, and post it here.
Show which specific models are listed for each manufacturer.
Show which specific types of failure are listed and in what percentage.

Oh wait, you can't. You probably don't own a single credit card and couldn't view it without mommy's approval.

>>14897442
Nice bike.


This reminds me, is this an actual thing? Taking selfies with out bikes and posting them on 4chan?

>>14898247
do u like those?

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>all this bmw hate

mine its been pretty reliable, but maintenance its a BITCH though, but still, I love my f650gs

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Dbt I'm getting veggies are you proud of me?

>>14898238
So you're spending $19,000 on a motorcycle so you can have a bunch of neat features that a $6000 KLR doesn't have, only to have all those fancy features stop working halfway through Mexico and now you're left with a $19,000 bike with less offroad capability and just as many features as the $6000 bike.

Good job kid.

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>>14898260
Oh and maybe some black ice

>>14898065
>>14898144
Nothing guys? Too busy shitting on BMW to help someone get onto the dirt?

>>14898254
Haven't ridden with them yet but tried them on and they are pretty comfy

>>14898261
>implying all that shit will stop working
>implying BMWs aren't better than a KLR in every way
The KLR is an outdated shitbike that can't compare to modern bikes.

>>14898260
Enjoy your GMO's m8.

>>14898274
The DRZ, DR, and KLR are all good choices.

The DR and KLR are a lot heavier than the DRZ and won't be as suitable on single track, but they're better on the highway.

If you already have a street bike I'd go with the DRZ for what you want.

>>14898269
Now I am

>>14898279
>still trying this hard to justify his $19,000 shitbike
Just stop. You fucked up. Admit it and move on.

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>>14898251
>The reason why you aren't posting that

I'm sorrry and the reason you aren't posting it is?

I've already posted evidence, the burden of proof for your claims is on you now.

>the evidence doesn't matter for reasons I won't explain

LMAO

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>Picked my tank up from the painters
>Get everything out back together
>Put a little gas in it, fires right up
>Go to put more gas in
>Spill 3 fucking drops
>My new paint job is permanently stained

Hold me DBT

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>>14898279
posting modern KLR which is not a shitbike

>>14898144
>>14898065
WR250R will likely feel the best off-road. DRZ has a lot more torque so you might prefer that.

>>14898284
No advice on the WR?

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>>14898297
LOL

>>14898305
I wouldn't advise a 250cc dirtbike on the highway desu.

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>>14898307

>>14898302
>modern KLR
Isn't that a Versys tho? The KLR is still the same shitbike with a different fairing.

>>14898305
WR is the best offroad bike. Followed by the DRZ then the DR/XR650

Check out the KLR250 too. It's not as shit as the KLR650

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>>14898300

>>14898309
as someone who rode an XL250s on the highway a few times, I agree. I literally thought I was going to die the entire time.

>>14898312
E is right next to R 8)

>>14898300
KEK, your are supposed to let it get it wet for like a week or 2.

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>>14898311

>>14898302
lol the versys, forgot these existed. If you're paying that much money for an adventure tour, might as well put it into an f800 instead

>>14898297
You posted an out of context screen cap. A brief summation of the over all report which excludes any and all statistics.
You haven't provided any evidence whatsoever. You posted a ebin meme pic from your shitposting folder because you're a barely functioning subhuman retard.

I have a consumer reports subscription. You do not. You are doing absolutely nothing but arguing out of your ass, basing it on nothing but a meme.

Reliability is not an abstract, it is quantifiable. Different machines with different engines, different gear boxes, different electrical systems, and different accessories experience failures at different rates. That is what the report shows. The report also shows that Goldwings are more likely to need repairs than my G650GS.

LMAO HONDA BTFO LESS RELIABLE THAN BMW XDDDD

>>14898319
Had to put gas in it, been sitting for over a day. Was going real slow then of fucking course this happens. Sprayed it immediately with matte paint cleaner and no dice.

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>>14898320

>>14898309
WR250R has a wide ratio 6-speed transmission and I hear it's a super smooth engine that isn't bad at all on the highway other than being blown around a lot.

>>14898322
see:
>>14898326
>>14898311
>>14898307
>>14898297

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>>14898323
So BMW is still less reliable overall.

Just that goldwings are apparently less reliable than 650GS.

I mean, BMW is still less reliable overall though, you accept that right? looks like you're not even bothering to try and pretend otherwise now.

You realize the reason European bikes tend to break like that is because they are the weapon of choice for the people who actually ride them hard, right? KLRs typically don't get that kind of abuse because they can't perform worth shit.

>>14898351
You're not even trying anymore.

>>14898351

so what's a better long distance bike for that price range of a $5000 KLR then?

>>14898342
Holy shit. Were they hardcore off-roading or something?

>>14898247
I hope you die in a fire

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>>14898351
this b true

every time I see a panigale the dude is out riding H A R D

>>14898304
Okay, I'm leaning towards the DRZ because the SV has gotten me used to lower RPMs.
>>14898309
>>14898332
WRR has half-decent reviews for 60mph use. I'll keep this in mind, though.
>>14898313
How much better (objectively) is the WR than the DRZ, and how much worse on-road?

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>>14898360
>$5000.
I don't know. There's a reason the KLR is cheap and the GS is expensive. The GS is a fuckton better.

>>14898251
Fuck off ya old pedo.

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>>14898365
happens on their road bikes too so you'd hope not.

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What do you guys think about using something like this to turn your bike into a giant reflector at night?

https://albedo100us.com/shop/permanent-metallic/

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You guys, I'm no longer nobike.

>>14898247
>people still wear those belts in 2016
>people actually smoke gas station cigars
i don't even know what that white tube is but i'm going to assume you shove it up your ass hole.

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Is anyone in the rizon chat?

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brosephs, what's your next bike?

pic related. Maybe next year or so

>>14898369
That's not very nice anon

>>14897397
Should I get a cafe racer?

>>14898384
Only three actual people and four bots.

>>14898388
No, you should commit suicide.

>>14898386

KLR 650

>>14898061
Is a motorcycle. Your welcome.

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>meanwhile superior nipppon machine

Guys, stop triggering gramps. You know he is a top class spergfester.

>>14898388
If you like them, sure. Always follow your heart when it comes to baikus.

>>14898386
In my dreams a Ducati Monster.
Realistically maybe a used Triumph Street Triple or Daytona.

>>14898372
You are literally exactly the same as a HD rider trying to proclaim superiority over Japanese cruisers to justify the price of his bike without a shred of evidence to support your claim but a mountain of evidence proving that the Japanese bikes are many times more reliable.

>>14898398
thanks pajeet

>>14898403
what's wrong with a monster?

>>14898387
I never said I was a nice person ;^)

>>14898394
Why what's wrong with them?

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>>14898371
~20 lb lighter stock and ~8 hp less. The DRZ is more torquey but I think the WR is the better bike

Bus seriously look at the KLR250 and the 250 Super Sherpa. The typical dual sports can be fine but aren't always the best choice

>>14898411
They're good classic bikes that were irreversibly ruined by hipster faggots for the sake of looks.

It's the stance of motorcycles.

>>14898411
hipster cucks that like getting fucked by tyrone.

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>>14898409
Nothing at all. I wish I could walk into a dealer tomorrow and buy a brand new one. One of the sexiest bikes I've ever seen actually.
I don't want to drop that much money on anything that would be purely a toy, at least not yet. So for now its a dream bike.

>>14898421
>cafe racer-ing bikes is the stance of bikes


No, that would be stretching bikes

>>14898386
I'm monumentally undecided, still in my first year of ninja-250-dom, if cost was no option a 2016 cbr600ra, I'm actually looking at things like a hypermotard, Aprillia shiver, 690 duke, as a realistic choice though, maybe an older 600, like an 07 R6.

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>>14898404
It's objectively a better bike. Despite the KLR having terrible suspension (which you already said), the GS has much more power.

>>14898421
>>14898425
How are they hipster bikes
And cane you give an example of a ruined cafe racer

>>14898427
No, because the people who stretch bikes are ruining plentiful newer bikes nobody cares about.

>>14898315
Put another shitty sicker over them. Problem solved.

Opinions? I'm considering either a Suzuki sv650 or a Yamaha fz-07 as my first bike. Thoughts?

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I sure am glad I bought a KLR because it's so reliable.

>>14898440
Every cafe racer is ruined.

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>>14898427
Hipsters like them. Pic related hipster cuck riding hipster bike.

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My KLR won't have any failures.

>>14898451
It's your own fault for not spending five minutes replacing a part that every KLR owner knows about.

>>14898419
Okay. And I'll keep an eye out for those two. I've had them in the back of my mind, with the XR225/250 and the DR200, but everyone's saying for street use, they're really only good for putzing around town. I'll scan the 'list for some, though.

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>>14898333
Soon after, a baby sasquatch runs out in front of me and I turned my bike into a skate board.

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>>14898461
>High failure rates in the KLR are acceptable because everyone knows from the start they're going to fail

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>>14898440
Hipsters jumped on them because they're old and uniquely styled. The same way they jumped on certain haircuts, suspenders, craft beer, cigars, pipe smoking, and sailor tattoos.

Hipsters are just a passing trend. Exactly like emos, goths, and every other stupid social trend. Don't let other people dictate what you like.

>>14898426
i test rode a monster 821 last year before buying my striple rx. it's a hoot of a bike to ride and definitely delivers more giggles around town, but it isn't as capable in the twisty shit and lacks in suspension so it's not as well suited for track days.

if you only ride around town tho, definitely look to pick up a used one in a few years.

>>14898452
How do they ruin them though?
I don't know much about bikes man I've just seen the cafe racers and the look nice
If there is something inherently wrong with the bikes design let me know but if you are just repeating memes then just stop replying I want serious answers

>>14898453
>tfw he's obviously happier than me
He probably also gets to bang hipster chicks with daddy issues.

>>14897687
Yeah, this one will be salvage so it'll be on the low end. Still, I think it's worth it.

>>14898483
>tfw he's obviously happier than me
>He probably also gets to bang hipster chicks with daddy issues.

m8 you can do all of those thing without looking like a faggot.

>>14898477
>removing fairings
>drag handlebars
>unique style ....

trend ... yes

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>>14898447
SV if you want to hit the twisties and are fine sacrificing the day-to-day comfort to do so.

FZ if you're gonna be doing more commuting and in traffic riding and want to be comfortable doing so.

>>14898474
It's a single faulty part and costs next to nothing to replace. The 2008+ models already have an updated version that solves the problem.

It takes five minutes to swap out and if your stock doohicky fails on you it's your own fault.

>>14898444
Well......

>>14898388
Why is this asked literally every thread?

>>14898482
Tards basically take an old bike and take away everything that makes it useful, practical, and good. Then they put on cheap ebay parts that don't even fit properly and it makes the bike terrible in every way.

>>14898453
Aside from the fan base is there anything wrong with cafe racers
I know /o/ hates cruisers because they are heavy and usually slow
So is there a legitimate reason to dislike cafe racers other than their users

>>14898453
i don't understand your saltiness m8. is it because they buy the cheap PoS bikes you wanted? or is it because you don't consider them authentic motorcyclists because they aren't as pure in their love of the sport as you?

frankly who gives a shit, i'll take a cafe cb350 rider over a stretch busa rider anyday.

>>14898507
So they basically just do a hack restoration?
What exactly do they remove that ruins them?

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S H I T B I K E

>>14897462
really like this without the windscreen senpai

>>14898503
right. Totally acceptable. I wonder how Kawasaki would look on the reliability chart if every KLR owner took it to a shop to get that fixed.

>>14898482
>chop up otherwise good bike
>ruin any ergonomics
>make extra uncomfortable
>price out of any reasonable sale
And that is not even counting all the bikes hipsters have cut up but not been able to put back together.

If it doesn't take effort (hunched over on board for seat) is not hipster.

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>>14898514
>i'll take a cafe cb350 rider over a stretch busa rider anyday.

nah

>>14898509
Because you have to destroy a classic bike that's becoming increasingly hard to find to make one.

It's no actually worse than stance, because at least most of the cars that stancefags ruin have no value to enthusiasts.

>>14898509
Well they destroy rare bikes, turn them in to death traps and try to sell them for stpidly high price.

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>>14898514
Whats wrong with stock friend?

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>>14898471
Most of the 250s you'll be stuck going 65-70 probably. If you want something that will happily do highway I'd probably suggest the DR650 or XR650L. Unfortunately unless you have bookoo bucks to get a 690 Enduro or 500 EXC you are stuck deciding between highway ability and lighweight offroad ability

>>14898500
I took an SV streetfighter on a week-long road trip (700mi each way) and road it all week in between the long ones. As long as you're not a bitch, the scat on the SV is fine, and the handlebars, at least on the naked one, aren't at all uncomfortable.

>>14898519
They remove the bars and put on clip ons or droop bars. With the stock pegs being in a forward position, that means you have to hunch over and basically fold at the hips to reach the bars. They also tend to fuck up the lighting by putting on useless little shitters that nobody can see. The seat swaps would make it look uncomfortable as well as look stupid. The exhaust wraps hold in moisture and lead to premature corrosion to the pipes.

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>>14898538
He wants to be a special snowflake

>>14898537
>>14898532

From experience, it seems like a really cool style but when riding for more then 10 minutes expect your lower back and neck to hurt. The clip on bars demand you lean low and snap your neck up like a turtle. Its horrible.

Other wise I think they are great looking bikes, but when riding they suck.

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>>14898509
There is nothing at all wrong with the style itself.
There might be something to be said about people who attempt to make their own and chop up a decent bike to do so. Its like buying a really nice WWII K31 rifle then chopping the barrel down and putting it in a crappy after market stock.
Still at the end of the day, you've got to do what makes you happy. If your bike works for you then it doesn't matter what other people think.

>>14898526
>>14898532
>>14898537
How exactly do the destroy them though
I have yet to be given a definitive answer or an example of one
What should I look out for if I were in the market for one

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I can't decide on what one I want more; it'll be my 1st SuperSport.

>>14898524
And that right there is the biggest difference between KLR riders and BMW riders.

When there's an issue with a KLR, its owner spends ten minutes to fix the problem himself. The BMWcuck has to take his fancy expensive bike to the dealership because he doesn't know how to actually do maintenance on the bike. Probably doesn't even change his own oil either.

>>14898541
The compromise is what I'm worried about, because I don't know how much dirt/street I'll be doing on it.

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does anyone have that pasta of the guy trying to jack off on his motorcycle but ends up slamming his dick into the fuel tank

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>>14898531
are you really gonna take my generalization and go find a super niche comparison to try and prove me wrong?

you and I both know that the majority of tardos with stretched swingarms are pic related, not pro dragsters hitting the track. no point being so disingenuous.

>>14898538
absolutely nothing. are you gonna suggest that a huge part of motorcycling hasn't always been customization though? if some dude buys a 70's bike and wants to throw inverted forks with clipons on the front with a stupid small gas tank and weird seat who am I to argue?

this isn't stance where the faggots present a very real risk to other motorists on the road, cafe hipsters aren't blowing out tires on the highway and causing accidents.

>>14898558
DAYTONA
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>>14898556
THE VERY CREATION OF A CAFE RACER IS WHAT DESTROYS A DECENT BIKE.

WHAT PART OF THAT AREN'T YOU GETTING.

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>>14898558
Go take them for a test ride and you'll know.

>>14898560
>When there's an issue with a KLR, its owner spends ten minutes to fix the problem himself. The BMWcuck has to take his fancy expensive bike to the dealership
That must be why BMW shows more repairs made at the dealership. That's the point I've been trying to make.

>>14898555
>. If your bike works
The thing is a lot of these tards do a half-ass attempt to make one and end up with a bike that doesn't work.

>>14898558
are you planning to do track days at all?
gsxr750 > daytona > zx-6

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>>14898556
>How exactly do the destroy them though
They get chopped and put dents on the tank, they remove necesary shit like the filter box or shocks, remove disk brakes and drum brakes, turn comstrar to spokes.

>>14898575
Not him, but the real difference is I can un stretch one of those, not to mention they're not horribly uncomfortable, just max douche

>>14898556
Most people do modification to the body and frame that there is no return to stock from.

For example, chopping off where the seat sits and replacing it with a hooped rear end. Grinding off all the tabs and denting the tank for knee divots. Also chopping fenders or removing them all together.

Anon from last thread that was reccomended the f800gs, between it and the africa twin what would be better? Its my first bike and i plan on taking it from the east to west coast and then all the way north and back.

>>14898560

Grow up.

Who fucking gives a shit dude. I bet you also give a fuck about what phone someone uses.

When you're an adult you'll realise that it doesn't matter if you service your shit or not, as long as you enjoy riding.

>>14898572
Most dual-sport bikes spend a lot more time on the pavement than they do on dirt.

If you don't already have a bike intended for pavement, the DR650 or KLR650 may be your best bet since they're a lot more capable on the highway than the 400 or 250s.

>>14898550
And that ruins the bike?
Forgive my ignorance I don't know much about bikes
>>14898579
So what your saying is that cafe racers isnt the term for that type of bike in stock form
Then what is?

>>14898604
f800 easy

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>>14898572
I'd steer toward dirt but that's my opinion. You can ride on road on a slow dirt bike but you can't ride lots of places offroad on the heavier dual sports

This is why the japs need a 450cc 40+hp sub 300lb dual sport

>>14898604
Well if you're absolutely set on one or the other, I'd say whichever one is cheaper.

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>>14898575
>drag racing
>super niche

>>14898613
bmw is making one

>>14898607
I've got an SV, though. I want a dual sport for the better maintenance intervals and the ability to ride to work and the trails. Otherwise, the dirtier the better.

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>>14898473
>>14898333

>>14898587
It's also because when a KLR breaks it's an extremely simple fix, but when a BMW breaks it's often catastrophic.

But thanks for admitting that you don't actually know a thing about maintaining a bike.

>>14898604
you should really get a couple thousand miles under your belt before you start trying to go for a ride like that. i'm jealous as fuck that you are able to do something like that though, i would love to do that.

>dual sports
may as well just kill yourself

>>14898620
You must not understand that 99%+ of riders will never touch a drag strip or race track of any kind.

Plus with the stock suspension and engine the swingarm isn't going to help anything.

>>14898619
Well, i had asked about how the g650gs would be and another anon said that the f800 would be better. And since the africa twin is in the same price range i figured id ask about the two.

>>14898609
>Then what is?
The word you're looking for is "motorcycle"

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>>14898627
Source?

Price will probably be prohibitive for most. Hence why I specified japs. Euros already have several of said bikes

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>>14898590
When are we getting a Daytona 800 based on the Tiger 800s motor? I heard that this was happening a few months ago then nothing.

>>14898604
They'll both do what you want easily, Africa twin probably performs better but you'd have to buy brand new. Theirs an anon on here with an AT, may want to see what he thinks.

>>14898613
Okay, so that's a move towards the WRR.
>>14898627
Shut up.

>>14898620
if you're suggesting schnitz's 6 second busa isn't a niche, then there is no point in even having a discussion with you because you're retarded.

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>>14898604
The Africa Twin puts out more power, I think its a little heavier, not sure where the weight balance is on it though. I've sat on an F800GS and know they're really comfy. They've got the under the seat tanks to keep weight lower, its pretty nice.

Africa Twin has some cool looking lights on it, the F800 has the wonky lights. They're each really slick bikes.

>>14898630
>I want a dual sport for the better maintenance intervals
dual sports tend to have closer maintenance intervals than street bikes.

>>14898641
Helps to get laid.

>>14898630
Personally I'm more of a fan of the KLR but for your needs you'll probably be better served by the DR or DRZ since they're more capable off road.

>>14898643
Quit being smart ass bitch
You know what I mean
What is the name for the body style if cafe racer isn't

>>14898636
Well, im going to have to break the bike in prior to this trip, so at least 600 miles will go down before it. Im really only doing it while taking this gap year so i have no sort of obligations.

>>14898644
http://motorbikewriter.com/bmw-plans-small-bore-adventure-bike/

>>14898598
how many cb350's were sold back in the 70's? even assuming hipsters ruin 5000 frames that still leaves well over a quarter million out there and that's not counting the dozens of other bikes that people make cafe racers out of.

the overwhelming complaint i'm seeing is "people i don't like are doing something so i must not like that either" and "they are buying up cheap running bikes and driving up prices for me to the point i can no longer afford them"

>>14898556
My buddy bought a "cafe" and it literally only looks good. Come 2 feet closer and you realize someone cobbled together a garbage bike out of ebay parts.

No cafe IRL is ever built with mechanical operation in mind or good handy work. They are hacked up death traps with parts chosen for whatever looks "good."