Which one would you pick?

>>14822983
The Lexus because it won't break down due to Bavarian gremlins in 36 months, regardless of adherence to a "maintenance" schedule.

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>>14822991

>>14822983
M4 in manual. I don't give a shit about lap times.

>>14823005
Found the retard

>>14822983
The M4. It's lighter.

>>14823011
Gut us another moron boys!!

>>14822983
>>14822991
The Lexus weighs more than the new bmw 7 series (>1700 kilograms) and is slow. Lexus doesnt know how to make a sports coupe.

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>>14823010

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>>14822983

>>14823015
They sure are biting tonight m8s
>he thinks a luxury coupe is a sports car
Kek

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>>14823021

>>14823014
It is lighter. Are you bad at math or something?

>>14823034
Lightness a good car does not make

>>14823023
It is a "sports coupe" aka the "BMW M3/M4 rival" you fucktard.

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>>14823043

>>14823010
Damned if I do, anon. If I get the RC F I'm stuck with paddle shifters while the BMW requires the sort of care and attention equal to that of an autistic child.

At the end of the day I'll be stuck with an expensive toy. I might as well have fun on the highway rowing through the gears in my golden douchecanoe, racing bogans in V8 utes and weebs in their imported R34 with GT-R badges.

>>14822983
I'd go with the 4 series
>that fugly face on the Lexus
really, Japan should go back to homaging the west

plus the bimmer can be equipped with a proper tranny

>>14823053
He was calling him retard because anon fell for that bullshit yesterday about the M4 not having a 6spd manual option. Which is technically right, it's not an option, the 7spd dual clutch is the option. But he thought you could get one at all.

BTW, I did read that was true in Europe, which is ironic. That they ONLY get the 7spd auto.

yeh but nah but seriously

The RCF weighs as much as an AWD car without the AWD. It does look like it might give you a close comfortable shave though.

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Neither, M2

>>14823111
M2 looks very gay, M8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpknhRpDz0E

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>>14823124

The M4 is a disgrace.

It get beat on the track by the cheaper non-M car.

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>>14823221
So when will you be buying your M2, anon?

>>14823124
>very gay

>cheaper
>better performance
>looks practically the same

>>14823257

in a 2-3 years maybe when the initial depreciation hits and buy used for ~$40k.

>>14823221

M cars are for made for nothing more than dick waving these days.

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>slower than a 17 year old mazda
Kek

>>14823299
When you think about it that's sports cars as a whole. They're an accessory for most men.

>>14822983
Neither. They're both pigfat and not as good as their previous generations.

>>14823221
You retards fail to realize that if the lap isn't driven by the same driver on the same conditions it is pointless to compare the track times as there will always be some difference between the drivers skills. The M2 hasn't been tested head to head against the M4 yet so its pointless just looking at lap times

>>14822983
RC-F because its more comfy

>>14822983
These are just about the two worst in their class, but I'll take the Beemer.

>>14824252
ATS-V is too American.
RS5 is too boring.
C63 is too feminine.
M4 is too German.

RCF is just right.

>>14822991
This all the way.

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>>14823022
Dubs confirm

>>14824344
RCF is pigfatlolcantturn. 4050lbs is approaching Challenger territory. It's also poorly engineered mechanically and attempts to overcome that with software, something which never works.

>>14824121
Sure about that bud? Check out motortrend's channel

>>14822983
M2

The M4 sounds like shit and the lexus is so hideous and bloated it's like a corpse floating in the potomac river

>mfw the lexus weighs 3,900lbs
>mfw lexus fanboys are treating it like some god machine when it's pigfat as fuck

>>14824628
Yeah the M4 was faster. I'm sure.

>>14824344
>ATS-V is too American.
How? It doesn't even have a V8

>>14824662
Nah, they're dead even on the track. The M4 is a disgrace.

>>14823022
>>14824461
>wanting the slower car

>>14824667
>dead even
kek being faster is not dead even

>>14824657
>mfw autists unironically care about weight of a daily driven car

>>14824488
>It's also poorly engineered mechanically
uhhhhhh... wat?

>>14824697
>mfw lexus fanboys unironically call people autists for not wanting cars that handle like fishing boats

>>14824697
Throw a Challenger and a Toyobaru into a curve and tell me which feels more fun/playful/controllable.

>>14824705
>2016
>autists still fail to understand that it's important to maintain a balance between everyday usability, reliability, comfort and performance in a production vehicle
>autists call a car that handles marginally worse than the M4 a "fishing boat"
Seriously, how retarded are you?

>>14824725
>lexus fanboys think a car has to weigh 4,000lbs to be "comfortable, reliable and usable"
>lexus fanboys think it's "marginally worse than the M4"
>lexus fanboys fail to realize that the M4 is soft, limp, awful sounding disappointment so being worse than it means that your car is shit

>>14824737
>autists don't understand how the market works

>>14824745
>lexus fanboys think they understand "the market"

>>14824754
You're a literal autist, I don't see the point in continuing this conversation.

>>14824488
Everything this anon says is true. The thing is, Lexus competes against BMW, Audi & Mercedes by offering similar (albeit lesser) performance in a more comfortable, more reliable car. Arguably, the RC family does that.

>>14824725

The M4 is the fishing boat.

>>14824772
You're a lexus fanboy who doesn't know what "autist" means, I'm going to continue until you get frustrated by it.

>>14824773
>M4
>doesn't have an engine
>Lexus offers lesser performance
ok

>>14824704
Go watch Clarkson talk about it. When you turn off the computers that drive the car for you, a poor handling car only gets worse.

>>14824786
So that makes the lexus a trawler

>>14824808
>Go watch Clarkson talk about it
He's an illiterate journalist who doesn't know anything about cars, senpai. Are you 12 or something? Don't you understand what hyperbole is? The entire Top Gear franchise is based on it.

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>>14824811

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm1DHNZnFPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9A3eY8PRtQ

Lexus, given how long they last. Sure the M4 might be more fun but I'd rather have a car that'll give me more use over the years, and less maintenance besides what is regular.

>>14824837
Wow, Lexus is 0.38% slower around a track. Completely crushed! Wow!

>>14824860
>MUH NUMBERS111111!!!!!!11!!1!1!!!11
Benchracing? You should be criticizing it for being 4,000lbs if you're benchracing.

>>14824902
Wow so Lexus is much heavier but BMW #rekt it by 0.38%. Wow... Much performance.

>>14822983
Lexus man here,

if I want to track it I'll go with the BMW.
For daily I'll go with the Lexus because better comfort.

Simple as that.

>Lexus

I live in the Great White North and german electronics don't agree with what winter dishes out.

>>14822991
This
Long lasting car is best car

>>14823022
>pigfat
>cheap looking plastic everywhere
>muh angry eyes
>can't see shit sir
Just stop making cars americunts, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>14826126
Shut up, you make us europeans look fucking butthurt

>>14824808
Clarkson loves the GSF of which the front of the RCF is based on.

Part of me thinks Clarkson was being overly-dramatic for a television show he was a host on....