ITT: Unpopular opinions

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>>14809233
AGREE!! thank you

This generation Eldorado was great. Beautiful car.

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>>14809278
>>14809315
The STS wasnt too bad either..

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last good looking Cadillacs tbqh

>>14809233
>>14810094
>>14810124

Too bad the were driven by the wrong axle

I don't think anyone will call them ugly mate

>>14810129
its a luxury car why would you ever care

Seville was always fwd I think

>>14810094
Fuck I miss my red STS
Thing was clean as fuck
>And then the headgasket went.

>>14810138
70s Seville was RWD, early 80s with multi-displacement was RWD, mid-late 80s is when they changed to FWD, and I care because it was supposed to compete against other luxury makes that were sportier than it, Cadillac themselves even marketed it as luxury sport you fucking prat

>>14810138
>settling for no reason other than arbitrary nonsense

>>14810129
I'll contend that in both those cars role it didn't matter. Further, the Eldorado was FWD for most of the nameplate's history and was largely irrelevant to it's success or failure.

What DID matter was the horrible execution of the Northstar and an interior that was a clear case of excessive cost cutting.

>>14810153
and?

people who want an honest sport luxo car would get a BMW or Benz

the people who bought a Seville did not give a single fuck about it being FWD and only a retard would

>>14810175
>only retards care about a V8 powered car only driving the front wheels

Do you know how retarded you sound?

>>14810184
the irony

are you 12

its a fucking luxury car only a dumbfuck child would care

>>14810184
M8 it weighs 1800kg and only had like 300hp. I wouldn't be worried about it

The 2-door R34 Skyline is ugly. The 4-door R33 looks like something designed by a sweet angel.

>>14809233
>>14809315
>>14810094

That's far from an unpopular opinion. People love the last generation Eldorados.

I'd love to own one, but the prices on the few clean examples left are fucking insane compared to Devilles and STS.

>>14810197
You're cool
>>14810196
But fuck you dude

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>>14810203
4 door Skylines don't get enough appreciation.

>>14810227
dont act retarded and you wont get shit on

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>>14810212
>>14810166

what was wrong with the interiors?

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>>14810232
agreed

>>14810234
What's retarded is you thinking it wouldn't have been a better car with RWD, retard

>>14810129
FWD made some sense... more interior room and they were popular for stretch limo conversions. They weren't exactly sports sedans and the geriatrics who bought them never went over 45mph anyway.

>>14810259
confirmed for 12

probably never even been behind the wheel outside of games

>>14810232

Eye agree

R34 is still overated.

>>14810262
You're thinking of the Deville and DTS, the Seville was never turned into a limo

>>14810267
I've been behind your mom and drove her home

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Unlike people here, I actually prefer modern cars.

>>14810236
Materials and finish choices, panel gaps, and styling more consistent with economy cars that premium makes. By itself it wouldn't stand out so bad I suppose but when you compare it to market segment competitors from Mercedes, Lexus, and even Audi it's clearly not in the same class.

>>14809233
>>14810124
>last good looking Cadillacs tbqh

Without a doubt. The Eldorado may very well be the best looking car America produced in the 90s. In a time when everything was bubbly and round the Eldo had a crisp creased classic look to it that wasn't pretending to be something it wasn't. So many American cars from the time were mimicking Japanese and European styling, but the Eldorado had an unmistakable, unapologetic american quality to it.

I'm not that fond of the 98+ Seville refresh for this reason. It looks way too soft and Japanese for my taste.

I've been looking to buy one for a while now with gas prices being so low, but they're either completely run through and fucked up or the owner is asking way too much money. When the fuck did these get so expensive?

Right now I'm looking to find one cheap with an already blown HG and get it studded, but all the cars I find that are blown are cosmetic nightmares.

>>14810166
>>14810236

The interiors aren't bad. The 92-95 interior was extremely nice for the era. By the end of their run in 2002/3 the interiors were looking a bit dated but still not bad by any means. IIRC the Eldorado used real wood grain for it's entire run, whereas the Deville used the fake shit starting around 96.

The Northstar is a great engine. People love to bash on it because of the headgasket issues, but it was a complete technological marvel for the time it released and there's good reason that they sold extremely well for 20 years straight.

One of the biggest reasons the engine is such a center of divided opinions is at the time it released in 1992, most american mechanics were still used to extremely simple carb'd engines. The N* was new and scary to old timers and a lot of them refused to work on them because frankly, they weren't qualified or familiar enough. As FI, quadcams and cars in general got more advanced, the tech on the N* became the norm. Most of the time when someone is badmouthing the N*, it's an old timer. Younger mechanics have little issue with them because they're so similar and in a lot of ways more simple than engines that came out later.
>>14810285

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Custom vans are far cooler than muscle cars, and usually handle just as "well".

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>>14810285
>By itself it wouldn't stand out so bad I suppose but when you compare it to market segment competitors from Mercedes, Lexus, and even Audi it's clearly not in the same class.

kek

The Cadillac interior looks better than it's competitors given the era. Shit, IMO the Olds is the best looking of the lot.

>>14810357
While they are very nice in design the problem with 90s GM luxury cars is that due to cost cutting the material quality as well as the fit and finish on them was sub-par compared to its competitors. Also the steering wheels on that Caddy and Olds look like shit, brings the interior down.

>>14810341
No, the reason people badmouth the Northstar is horrible leaks from just about everything that could. Most notably the case-half seals that cost literally thousands to fix. Labor time on that was in excess of 15 hours at over $100hr. Oh sure after NEARLY A DECADE they "fixed that" so that made it ok somehow.

As for the other defenses, y'all do know that there's a reason they still have to practically give Cadillacs away. Sure these were far better than what went before but were still way off the mark even if they do look good.

>>14810357
>that lexus steering wheel

shit

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>>14810357

only reason it looks better is because its in black and the other ones are 90s beige

>>14810357
mercedes was on point with that interior.

>>14810446
>only reason it looks better is because its in black and the other ones are 90s beige
Then why is the Oldsmobile the best looking one and it's not black

>>14810485

nigga it looks like trash

>>14810504
Your mom is trash

>>14810389
>>14810389
>Also the steering wheels on that Caddy and Olds look like shit, brings the interior down.

All 6 cars have typical 90s bloated airbag steering wheels. The only halfway decent looking one is the BMW because the roundel logo is actually a full color badge and not embossed like the other 5. I'm a Benz guy, but the Oldsmobile and Cadillac do have nicer looking interiors overall.


>>14810472
ikr? I love the simplicity of it, but all things considered, it looks like an interior that's 10 years older than it actually is.


>>14810446
Nothing will ever save 90s Lexus interiors.

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>>14810485
Because it's a promotional fucking image.

>>14810564
Still looks best, what other car came with blue interior in 1998, huh? RIDDLE ME THAT

>>14810571
Colored interiors were never cool, despite what Detroit marketers told you for decades.

>>14810579
>Detroit Marketers

I didn't need Marketers to see how glorious that interior was/is faggot, besides they hardly ever showed an interior that wasn't tan or black in the late 90s anyway you stupid yuropoor shithead

>>14810519

no ur mom is trash m8

>>14810607
>no u
Fuck off underage faggot

>>14810611

no u

>>14810613
God you suck at this as bad as you suck at life

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>>14810564
Pic in the OP is from a 99.

All 6 cars would have used those interiors until 2003-4

>>14810620

not as bad as ur mum sucks cocks

>>14810625
Except your worse, at least cradle my balls when you respond

>>14810631

ur mum could take some tips from u m8

>>14810633
I've tried to tell her, but your mum gets the idea

>>14810637

damn ur mum is dumb

>>14810650
I know right? At least yours can follow instructions

>>14810653

i can see the genes passed on to you

>>14810564
I think that looks brilliant

>>14810661
Yeah, I don't listen very well, but at least your mom is open to suggestions, like last night when I suggested to stick it in her arse

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I really like the design of this, it has really smooth lines and little to no aggression to it.

>>14810669

too bad your mum doesnt know complicated words like suggestion and arse, but its ok

>>14810727
That's what happens when you take dick for a living, your mum's familiar with this as well

>>14809233
Those Eldorados are the best looking Cadillacs since the late 60s.

I like 80s cars. Pretty much all of them. Especially the Z31, FC, and Probe (which the interior is fucking a+)

>>14810275
into the trash your opinion goes

>>14810571
my dad's 92 golf has a blue interior senpai, and it looks amazing all things considered

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>>14810814
>Unpopular opinions
>I like 80s cars

I like t he PT Cruiser, I think it looks funny in a good way, and I might get one since it has devaluated faster than asbestos and is only worth a couple grands at this point.

>>14810945
I had a turbo one, if you're serious, get a turbo manual, they can use every tuning part that's for an SRT-4, the shitty thing is it has either a solid rear axle or that weird semi-independant like GM had

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I think the new crew is better.

>>14810923
>people constantly give me shit for liking 80s design over 90s design
>was called retarded for liking the z31 more than the z32

>>14811486
/o/ is retarded for 80s design

personally I find that the 80s produced the ugliest cars on the planet

>>14811514
You mean 90s 00s and 10s

>>14810737
u cheeky bastard ur mums familiar with deez nutz ayy lmao

people shouldn't be allowed to modify modern cars if it can't pass emissions.

>>14814434
no

All road cars should have some form of muffler on them, and all motorcycles should have to keep the stock muffler or an equivalent unit, they're annoying loud from the factory already.

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93 or nothing at all

>>14809233
Chuck Jordan had such an eye for detail. He was behind many of the glorious Cadillacs of the 1950s and when they brought him back to Cadillac in the 90s, he really did his thing.

These Eldorados photograph nicely, but in person there are so many minute details that make then extraordinarily beautiful. Especially when you compare them other cars of the time period.

The front fenders are raised to a peak that sits above the hood and the trunk is recessed just a little bit. It's such a subtle touch, but it gives the car a very unique classic feel, without being tacky or too much. The sharp, muscular crease above the rear belt line was a nice throwback to the 68 Eldorado and the way it flowed into the fenders and through the taillights in combination with the recessed trunk gave the appearance of very small fins. It was a very understated and contemporary take on the tail-fins that had become a Cadillac signature. Everything about this car flows perfectly and I think most would agree that it has aged extremely well and will continue to do so.

>>14816793
>The sharp, muscular crease above the rear belt line was a nice throwback

For sure. The Eldo is about the only car from the 90s I can think of that did this. It seemed to be coming back in the mid-late 00's with the E class, Charger, STI, but now we seem to be headed back to a more bulbous generic commuter look.

>>14811105
You've got black, woman, joey, cuck, some guy, jew, and the stig.

We all know that black, woman, cuck, and jew are going be garbage.


So its basically a guessing game about how disinterested joey will sound, what some guy will do, and if they will fuck up the stig character or not.

>>14810356
>Custom vans are far cooler
I agree. I actually wish the car culture would bring them back. Who knows? Maybe with gas prices going down it might just surface again.

>>14810579
Oh how very, very wrong you are

>>14817199
Yeah,but i wanna see Matt LeBlanc knock out the ginger when he gets mouthy

>>14810275
>implying this poorfag can afford that

>>14810357
>wheel cover on the bmw

kek

Suzuki cars are underrated as fuck.
New peugeout and citroen are comfy and stylish