ITT stupid shit non-car people say to sound smart

I think my favorite is the...

"I did this, and this, and this to my car..."

They go "Oh yeah? What are you making?"

Just the generic question of "I don't understand anything you just explained"

I also told someone about my FI and they said "WOW that must make like 50 pounds of boost"

>not understanding compression ratios

>>14808110
This is possible though.

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>>14808124
>50 pounds of boost

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>>14808135
found the fag, that was quick

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>>14808135

>>14808178
>>14808135
>>14808110
Just off the top of my head:

Honda K series, Saab/GM 2.0T, Saab 2.3T, DSM 4G63, 80s Ford 2.3T

>>14808222
no stock cams will reach 400whp on a K series, you need to valve retainers and possibly bore increase


Guess what, that's every 2.L-2.4L bud

>>14808222
appropriate trip

>>14808110
Mercedes is currently getting 380hp out of the A45's 4cyl. Tuners are easily exceeding 450. 400whp isn't that hard with today's advanced tuning, and boost-proof engines.

>>14808231
That's because a whole load of factory 2.0-2.5L engines can do 450 flywheel hp. It's usually some stuff in the heads like valves, cams, etc. but the internals can be stock on with modern fuel injection and ignition.

>>14808237
>I got 450whp reliable Boost BRAH

>next week, bent valves, thrown rod, scored sleeve and head

No, this is stupid, you can't run on stock internals expecting big power, I'm ashamed some idiots on /o/ even believe this

>>14808244
I was talking about 450 flywheel hp which, if you account for driveline losses is right there in the 400wheel hp ballpark.

>bent valves
How is that a power-related failure? That's usually your cam timing gone wrong, usually with a broken timing belt.
>scored sleeves
Oiling failure. Not related to internal part's strength.
>scored head
U wot mate
>thrown rod
Rods mostly fail after increasing RPM. Adding a turbo doesn't increase RPM (they actually pull the power band down a bit), thereffore is makes the rod unlikely to fail as a stress component.
What can happen however, is incorrect tuning. Premature detonation causes severe stress loading on the conrods, and heavy thermal (and stress) loads on the pistons. Basically, just don't make it knock - which you can with modern ignition and injection tuners, and with modern knock sensors.

Stock internals have been becoming stronger and stronger since the 90's. We live in a world where small-bore LS's can hold upwards of 700hp. CA18's can push 500hp with a good set of cams, studs and gaskets, on their stock bottom end. 4G63's go up to about 450, but rod bolts should be replaced with studs after that. Most of these examples lack fuel to go there though, so you always need to upgrade injectors. If you don't, well, expect lean running and a whole boat of problems. If you do, 450hp on a 4cyl doesn't have to be a problem.

>>14808244
>you can't run on stock internals expecting big power

GM LS V8 here


lol

>>14808244
>you can't run on stock internals expecting big power
That depends entirely on the engine.
You're implying all engines are exactly the same.

>>14808244
There's that saab making 666hp on a stock block
YB cosworth could do 500+ on stock bottom end too.
With strong low compression internals like that just get the engine revving with cams and headwork, get the fuel in there and a big enough turbo and it's not an issue.

>>14808305
>thread about how stock 4cyl internals have a power limit
>BRUH NO LISTEN I HAVE A V8 AND ITS REAL POWERFUL

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>>14808110

literally 2 seconds of googling dude

https://www.amsperformance.com/cart/AMS-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-X-STX400-Package.html

>>14808328
Factory forged bottom end sure but all the technical work on the head will never ever go up to 400 whp on a 4 cyl without work.

>>14808534
>hurrr 400whp means the same thing as 400hp

You belong in this thread retard

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>>14808550

You're right, 400whp doesn't mean the same as 400 at flywheel. LOL

If you still have any doubts, here's 500 whp without opening the engine: https://www.amsperformance.com/cart/ams-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x-stx500-package.html

>>14808550
>technical work on the head

like what, cams and springs?

a mongoloid with missing fingers could assemble a cylinder head

>>14808244
2JZ-GTEs regularly make 500rwhp on the stock internals for years, the barra in XR6T/F6 will do 550rwhp without worry.

You're just a faggot.

>>14808594
>thread is about 4cyl
>hold up lemme go full retard and bring up 6cyls

>>14808578
Yeah I'm sure that's fucking super reliable. As if mitsu doesn't break down on its own with 300hp. You can make any 4cyl go 600hp for an hour or two

>>14808608
Except you're the dumb cunt who said
>YOU CAN'T RUN ON STOCK INTERNALS EXPECTING BIG POWER
Guess what faggot, yes you can.

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>>14808610
>unironically being this retarded

>>14808610
Why is it always the Aussie cunts that can't read or follow a thread?

>>14808619
>>14808616
Why is it you seppo cunts can't do basic maths?

550-600rwhp in 6 cylinders
-2 cylinders
370-400rwhp in 4 cylinders

It's not 1998 anymore, E85 is much better for internals and a 400rwhp I4 is not even close to implying unreliability.

>>14808231
This is not true. a K24Z7 can make over 400whp on stock internals. It's been done many times.

>>14808629
>wallaby cunt math
>faackin boost it on stock internals m8 it'll be fine

That education system just ain't working

>>14808648
I'm not the one stupid enough to make the claim that you can't make big power on ANY stock internals.

>>14808643
I like how you say stock doesn't include cams

my car needs premium gas

>>14808654
>still can't follow a thread or read

>>14808658
What?

>>14808661
I don't give a fuck about 'following' the thread, you're the dumb cunt who seems to think the FQ-400 which makes around 370rwhp is right on the limit of its internals despite having a factory warranty.

>>14808672
>>14808672
i'm not the same guy but
>FQ-400
>rwhp
lol
and they would make ~330awhp

>>14808660
but my car really does need premium...

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>>14808110
Heh, it's just as true the first time I posted it as it is now m8, all these flavors and you chose butt blasted.

http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/5731-WTH-is-DHM-doing-today-!-!?p=106640&viewfull=1#post106640

He pops the intake manifold off at 426whp a few posts down.

>>14808110
Those facebook memes with obviously wrong car advice

>>14808110
>Golf R

>>14808244
People run high boost 6 bolts for tens of thousands of miles, 350+ whp without an issue retard.
Saab b205/7's are good for ~350-400 bhp as well.
Chevy l61's are regularly put to over 250 bhp with literally a turbo/tune.
Honda k's can handle 400 with a turbo/meth or nitrous.
Yota 1zz's, even with the oil burning issue, can make 300bhp without a sweat.

Retards like you dont realise that everyone blowing their motors on a stock rotating assembly on 5-10 pounds of boost do it without tuning or have a shitty ass tune. If you have a good tune, then you can easily double your power on any motor, even more so with meth injection.

>>14808244
So technically you can, you just have to be an idiot to do so since the engine becomes a time bomb.

>>14810063
Sure he fucked up more than that on those shitty engines time will tell

>>14808244
F20c
:^)