What went right?

good looks

luxury

decent range

lots of manufacturer support after debut

company started looking toward the future right after debuting the first car

problem happens, company reacts

transparency

releasing a performance electric model to show the potential

i could go on

tesla will be the next ford

Symbolism. It's THE most important thing these last 20 years.

Tesla will be the next Apple. Except it'll actually bring some new innovation.

>>14800964
>mfffw Tesla HAS to help the FBI hack their cars because they took federal grants.

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>>14800974

>>14800904
Who the fuck preorders a car that he will maybe get in 2 years? What is wrong with these people

>>14800989

>put in deposit
>if final production model looks good wait to receive car
>if you're concerned, cancel pre-order and get deposit back

It's really a win-win situation. Tesla gets to measure interest in the car and people can reserve one and yet still back out if something comes up

>>14800904
>What went right?
It's Tesla's 190e. The opportunity to buy into the image, brand and symbolism/status symbol at middle class prices.

>>14800989
Same type of people who pre-ordered the Elio vaporwear 3-wheeler

Same people who pre-order anime.

>>14800977

does anyone else even remember feels good man

i've been on this site for too long

your memes suck

>>14801000
How many cars do you think can tesla produce a year? That amount of preorders is just stupid.

>>14800904

>"fuck you" to scamming dealerships

>no worrying about oil/gas/coolant/major repairs

>reliability of simple electric motor

>competitively priced

>>14801041

I don't think making the cars is the problem - it's the battery that's the bottleneck.

>>14801041

It's not like Tesla would say 'you are number xxx preorder, look forward to your car in x years!'

>>14801048
>>"fuck you" to scamming dealerships

That's my main thing - fuck dealerships. I'm not going to consider buying one until the final production model is out and reviewed, but I like their business model. You don't have to worry about negotiating or wondering if you're getting ripped off.

>Tesla breaks down
>have to ship it UPS

>>14801058
>implying a company that made a few thousand cars a year can produce >300k in just 2 years out of nowhere
>implying their suppliers can produce that many parts

The battery isn't the only problem lad (one of the biggest tho)

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>>14801028

yea, feels good man

you know the shitty think, I cant even remember the usual meme cancer from 5-7 years ago.

>>14801028
me and my m8s used to scream "feels good man" whilst taking a pants down piss on the piss

felt good man

>>14801073
>implying a company that made a few thousand cars a year can produce >300k in just 2 years out of nowhere
>out of nowhere

It's almost as though they purchased a massive production facility capable of building 500,000 cars and the equipment and workforce necessary for production.

Crazy.

>>14801074

mostly desu bullshit

and efg

remember epic fail guy?

>>14801067
Depends on how you look at the situation. Yes, plenty of dealerships are scammy as fuck, but real world results have shown that going direct sale/no haggle will increase the average price people pay for cars

I see the pro's and the con's of both models, in a perfect world you could have both: Either spec out a car exactly the way you want it and order it directly from the car maker, or go to a dealership and haggle for a better deal on existing stock. It's extremely easy to know if you are getting a good deal or not with the information available to consumers today, you just have to do your research

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>>14801074

I miss Rustled Jimmies and ISHYGDDT. The current crop of memes are pretty shitty in my opinion.

>>14801094

sure is 2014 around here

but if we're voting for best meme of all time

SAP, bar none

better than all the other impact memes

more relevant than any of the other nippon nonsense

funnier than anything /b/ could churn out in years

>>14801082
proofs? Tesla has less employees than a bmw plant that has an output of 300k cars?

>>14801083

efg was sort of entertaining.

Spiderman at first was funny, I downloaded episodes of the old ass one and started spamming pictures of those, then it caught on and went to shit. ITS STILL HERE TOO

>>14800904
They still have to pump out the cars.

If the waiting period is more than 2 years expect most of the orders to be cancelled. Even more if the reviews of the car are bad.

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>>14800904
An attempt to monetize hype.

If you watch Elon's tweet, be basically has admitted that nothing about the car is finalized, not even it's profile (he mentioned redesigning for larger hatch and trying to meet a lower drag standard needed to make their range goal)

The 3 is about as far along, development wise, as the Bolt was over a year ago when it looked like it was wearing a ball gag in concept car form.

This scares me a bit, I let about a third of my Tesla stock go yesterday, rolled it into my normal mutual fund.

>>14801041
they want to be able to produce 200k/year by 2020, but that's throughout their line up

>>14801063
they kind of did that by saying that certain zones will receive them first, which sucks for international deposits

>>14801082
NUUMI didn't come with the tooling, when GM and Toyota quit that joint operation, they split the tooling up between them.

Tesla will have to pour millions of dollars into tooling to make 500k cars in that plant, and they'd have to hire thousands.

You don't get a competent workforce gratias when you buy a plant, that shit'd be slavery.

No, they're gonna have to hire and train and train.

They won't have to add on to the building though, that's for sure.

>>14801179
Dollars to donuts they're gonna deliver the highest spec cars first, too.

I'd be shocked if any of the first year have a pre-tax break price of less than 50k.

They still haven't shipped an X with a sticker of less than $130,000

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>>14800958
>It's THE most important thing these last 20 years.

>>14801184
>Tesla will have to pour millions of dollars into tooling to make 500k cars in that plant,

You mean billions

>>14801192
the tax breaks are a false hope, really
pretty much only the west coast and the 2nd release zone, maybe the third too, will be able to receive a full tax break federally as after 200k cars are sold, the break begins to diminish

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>>14801028
>>14801074
>>14801078
>>14801083
>>14801094
>>14801110
did some one say meme

Is Elon Musk autistic?

>>14801225

From his tweets, live speaking, and inter personal relationships I'd say yes.

>>14801219

do you have any engineering experience?

this sort of thing isn't that expensive

you buy a $20k machine, pay a $60k/year engineer to program it, and then rinse and repeat

it's usually between 5-15 million to do something like this. 30 million max to tool an entire assembly line

right now elon musk has plenty of 30 millions in his bank account

>>14801239
They probably need a lot more than a few screwdrivers

>$20k machine

top kek

>>14801219
No, mid hundreds of millions. The facility isn't empty, they've been buying tools for years, and the building is fully ready to go and is wired/set up exactly right for a car plant.
>>14801222
If the 3 isn't delayed at all, the Bolt will be on the market for 6 months before the 3 drops.

If GM sells 20,000 of them, less than a third of people with a 3 pre-order will get the full 7,500 from the Feds, and California has introduced means testing on their $2,500 credit.

I'm betting we see big lobby efforts by Tesla fans to extend the $7,500.

>>14801239

adding to this

it will be VASTLY more expensive to actually build the factory

like magnitudes

but musk knows that

he's brave to go to this level of production with this level of tech

hopefully he trusts his soldering committee

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>>14801239
You have no idea how big NUUMI is, or how many machines it takes to make half a million cars on 2 shifts. It'll take hundreds of millions to do this.

>>14801239
>right now elon musk has plenty of 30 millions in his bank account
Right now Tesla is burning through 1.5 billion dollars a year in development and setting up a titanic Lion Battery plant.

Add in another 4 lines of production to bring NUUMI up to 60% capacity (his 300,000 goal) will possibly bankrupt Tesla.

>>14801028
Cool story bro

>>14801263
>it used to be better

>>14801276
tesla is like all these tech companies that do not profit in any way but somehow get investors
even the guys on shark tank have no fucking clue why people invest in that

God damn.

325,000 preorders. For a car. God knows how many people are gonna buy this when it actually goes on sale, but I bet it will be a lot more than the 325,000 who decided to place their orders nearly 2 years ahead of its release.

This could be it /o/. The moment when Electric cars break out into the mass market. Every major car brand right now is looking at these numbers, and though they were toying around with electrics before to appease the econuts, they're definetly going to be at the very least making electric versions of half of the models in their entire lineup. We might even see the return of NiMH batteries in electric cars, as what has been keeping them out is an oil-company owned corp that has been sitting on the patents for it, refusing to fill any orders of less than 10,000 batteries. They won't want to miss the profits they can reap from this.

This could be bad news for Honda and Toyota, who are making significant long-term investments in Hydrogen Fuel-Cell technology (which more or less is a type of EV that can be refuelled fast instead of recharged a little slower) and are just now getting off the ground with it, releasing loads of patents and directly funding infrastructure for the Hydrogen Economy they hope to establish.

Knowing /o/, many of you will cry that this is the end of Internal Combustion Engines, that they'll outlaw them and you'll never get to drive your Civic Hatch again. But I think that to the contrary, this is the end of the boring ICE cars, the minivans and bland sedans and crossovers that are so fucking ordinary that enthusiasts generally don't care for them. Mind you, we'll still have Combustion Engines for a while, I don't see them disappearing in colder and more remote areas, and I think we'll even see new types of fuel for them that produce lower emissions with higher energy returns.

But if anyone though that Electric cars were not going to be a significant force in the car industry, this is proof otherwise.

>>14801256
i don't think that's how it works
from what i've read the incentive is per manufacturer
and saying that now, wouldn't the 200k units have already taken a hit by the other tesla releases?
unless it's 200k/car model

>>14801289

quality post

hopefully honda and toyota don't shortsell the hydrogen idea

it could be a great way to bring together EV and quick refueling for people who need to go a bit further than 200 miles

>>14801289
I'm betting that at least a third of these refundable pre orders result in refund when the finalized production spec and production date allocation is announced.

>>14801354
Thats still over 200,000 preorders, and doesn't include people who will buy it when it enters the market, likely to be a lot more.

>>14801378
>and doesn't include people who will buy it when it enters the market, likely to be a lot more.

To wait another few years? Model 3 pretty much confirmed for trabant

>less than 200 hundred mile range
>PLEASE BELIEVE US WHEN WE SAY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO CHARGE ANYWHERE FOR FREE, YOU WILL NOT PAY FOR GAS OR ELECTRICITY EVER IF YOU BUY THIS CAR
and im called a retard big oil shill for being skeptical

>>14801239
It is hard to be this stupid

>>14801396
It's Silicon Valley™, all you have to do is Believe™.

>>14801396
>>less than 200 hundred mile range

It's at the minimum of 215 miles, plus the average American drives 37 miles per day.

http://www.facethefactsusa.org/facts/the-asphalts-getting-crowded-video-

>>14800904
marketing

>>14801419
>www.facethefactsusa.org

>>14801396
>half a million people will drive this car pretty much overnight
I'm pretty sure the infrastructure will catch up faily quickly with such a huge demand.

>>14801423

>I have nothing else to cite that shows different figures

I don't understand why you're so booty blasted over an EV that accommodates the driving needs of most people.

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>>14801067
The way Tesla does dealerships is how dealerships are done everywhere else but the USA. It's nothing new.

Nor is electric motors driven by batteries.

>>14801427
you are aware that these are not guaranteed purchases, right? it is literally just a "Are you interested in purchasing a Tesla in the next 5 years? If so sign up for our newsletter" thing overhyped as preorders. and no, there is no way that recharging them will be free

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>>14801389
kek

>>14800931
>next ford
You mean toyota

>>14800904
Marketing. He also realised most people born after 1990 don't know basic physics and will fall for anything.

>>14801111
>Employees to manufacture cars
>A full automatic and living on its own factory manufacture cars
Pick 1

>pre orders of car that isn't even made and hardly any solid details of it
He is marketing god. That's about it.

>>14801263
Thanks god. The 06 4chan was cringy as fuck.
Nowadays we at least try to bash on people and make them feel bad about it

How long until Musk announces a super car? its obviously going to happen.

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>>14801168

Chevy could have made a sleek, futuristic looking EV, but instead they went with this clusterfuck.

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>>14801776
>mfw new Roadster convertible

>>14801717

I prefer old 4chan. Personally, I think it's more cringey now. Back then, while we shit on each other and outsiders it was mostly light hearted and juvenile. Even with raids someone would apologize and put shoe on head and we moved on although there were times of going too far like fucking with the families of dead kids.

Nowadays, I feel there's too much emphasis on the negative and insulting people far more than we previously did. The need to be exceeding contrarian, wallowing in self-pity, and going out of the way to find stuff to be angry about is in my opinion far more cringey. But after a decade, here I still am.

>>14801806
Nah brah, Tesla needs to flex that dick and make a Lamborghini/Ferrari competitor.

Sedan
SUV
Compact
Performance

>>14801824

Maybe the new Roadster will rek them.

>>14801837
Maybe a whole new car named Roadster, but not an iteration of the tech demo they called a car.

>>14801824
We are a long way off that. The Tesla drag race show is all it has. Put it on a track and the batteries will be hot after 1 lap. ICE FTW.

>>14801903
>Put it on a track and the batteries will be hot after 1 lap.
Source?

I don't see it "a long way off", just remove unnecessary weight, replace heavy materials, and add a mode tuned for performance, that plus a sleek body is all it needs.

>>14801903
Batteries are a tertiary cooling concern, we have not seen the limits of battery cooling in a Tesla because the motors and inverters overheat long before the batteries will.

The 3 is a new platform so it will be interesting to see if they fixed the cooling system.

>>14801921
Find a lap time for the model S. Oh that's right, there aren't any.

>>14801921
>Replace heavy materials
>Batteries...

Called it a while ago.

..yay me.

Electric car for the everyman.

Comfy for the comfy.

Sporty for the sporty.

Mpg's for the mpg's.

..price bracket for all above.

Hardly rocket science.

>>14801921
>>14801958
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/tesla-model-s-to-hit-track-as-new.html

I guess you're full of shit.

>>14801289
I'm betting that at least a third of these refundable pre orders result in refund when the finalized production spec and production date allocation is announced.

>>14801793
>normal looking hatchback
>clusterfuck
I don't see it.

>>14801776
Rimac is going to corner that market.