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ITT: we suggest replacements for displacement

>pic related
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rotary power
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>>14771689
leaving your shit country
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>>14771713
Technically, leaving a country would still be displacement, not a replacement.
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>>14771735
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anything rotary
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multiple engines maybe?
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>>14771735
Kek
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>>14771888
lol fucking boomers
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>>14771888
how does that work? one engine per wheel?
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>>14771888
>saving this image is illegal in yuropooria
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suicide
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>>14771914
>how does that work? one engine per wheel?
i think they are both connected to a single flywheel via chain
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>>14771914
Does it look like a motorcycle to you?
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>>14772136
yes.
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>>14771735
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>>14771701
Oh that's just lovely.
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>>14771689
Displacement AND forced induction will get you further .
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>>14771701
pretty sure that FC is LS swapped
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get rid of the engine, put bigger turbos.
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>>14772136
That just gave me an idea. Could you strap two litre bikes together with a chair in the middle and have a super fast car?
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>>14772214
Go for it.
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>>14772190
>exhaust is basically industrial air duct
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>>14771735
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>>14771701
What if they made a 2 stroke rotary? Both are known for high HP compared to displacement.
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>>14772594
rotary engines are more like allstrokes since there is always an intake, compression and exhaust going on. in any case, premixing oil into your gas is a constant I guess
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>>14772605
So a two stroke rotary would have 2 intakes, compressions, and exhausts going on.
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>>14772799
so a 2 rotor?
otherwise you'd have to add 3 more sides to the rotor. a hexagon rotor would be far too much trouble, way more sealing problems, less movement capability, smaller area for combustion, balancing problems since explosions would have to be timed in a weird way and wouldn't add much power
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>>14771735
Well-played, anon.
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>>14771689
No replacement for displacement.

A 6.0L turbo will make more power than a 2.0L turbo, all else being equal.
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>>14772865
Sure anon, but will a 6.0L Turbo make as much power as a 2.0L QUAD TURBO?
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>>14772873
>>14772865
As in, can I replace 4.0L with 3 turbos and make the same or more power?
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>>14772880
Why not a quad turbo Barra?
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>>14771888
>>14771913
You guys surely don't understand
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>>14772886
I think I just had a primal reaction to that image.
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>>14772873
The more displacement, the better.
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>>14772921
Sure anon, but you could definitely replace some displacement with boost and make the same power.
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>>14772190
those are helicopter engines jfc
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>>14772605
>allstrokes
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>>14772937
A 3.0L turbo can make the same power as a N/A 5.0L, yes. But why would you want to do that when you can have a 5.0L turbo that makes much more power than both? Plus it won't be anemic while off-boost and have a better power curve as well as faster spooling. And best of all it'll be more reliable.
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>>14772970
It's real too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHqoNiQ2e10

holy fuck
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>>14772983
well there's always a stroke, sorta. strictly speaking, there isn't a stroke at all in a rotary. it is always doing all 3 processes of combustion constantly
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>>14772986
Because in that scenario I would not be replacing displacement.
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>>14772986
a 5l turbo won't be more reliable than a 3l turbo, are you retarded? and a 5l turbo is probably more expensive to run. not only in gas, but also in maintenance. it's going to make more power, so more wear on everything.
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>>14771735
nice
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>>14772996
>it's going to make more power
Exactly. More, displacement, more power. Can't replace it.
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>>14771888
Wouldn't that overheat?
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>>14773003
well but a 10L NA will make more power. but a 10L turbo will make more power. but a 15l na will make more power.... etc it's a circular argument
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>>14772990
Two cut to the chase one dorito=3 pistons but the pistons are not at the same stage in the 4stroke process.
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>>14773010
Exactly, if you have a 3.0L engine and 5.0L engine, the 5.0L engine is going to be more powerful. So in order to replace the missing 2.0L of displacement between the two, we can add boost and the output of the two engines will be much closer to equal.

Therefore, we can replace displacement.
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>>14772989
of course it is, tractors pulls are big money. not really sure why they call them tractor pulls tho as nothing they use today could be even remotely considered a tractor
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>>14773016
>two
Auto correct a shit bawww
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>>14771735
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>>14771689
there is no replacement for displacement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBS5FhqgDHg
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>>14773038
>hqdefault
>Posts a HJ
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>>14771689
reduction in weight
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>>14771689
Nitromethane
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>>14771689
Technically that's just increasing the power of the same displacement.
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>>14773019
It's better to replace boost with displacement. Plus you can always add boost to the larger engine later.
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>>14773068
How the fuck do you ausfags remember all these funky letter codes for cars? Why do they even exist?
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>>14773075
Only pussies run nitrometh.
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>>14773081

Why are you asking Ausfags that? Japfags are way worse for it. At least Amerifat ones make some degree of sense (C1, C2, C3, C4...)

>hey dude sick S13.4 with a SR20 swap bro dude
>nice EG civic with EK struts and an EF engine yo
>oh cool JZA70 man, but I bet my FC3S is faster, and if it isn't then I have a BNCR33 that would wreck it
>nah man the E20 is the best corolla, AE101 is shit, gdsfgdfgdfgsdfgdsfgdsfgdf
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>>14773081
how is something like a9-x hard to remember?
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>spending double on turbo and super chargers to get the same horsepower and torque that's just standard and hassle free with a big engine
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>>14773085
You looked under my hood?
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>>14773096
It's crazier with Nissan's my head hurts
HCR32=R32 Skyline GT-ST
ECR32= R32 Skyline 4door
BNR32=R32 Skyline GT-R
BNR34=R34 Skyline GT-R
PS13=S13 Nissan Silvia
RPS13= S13 Nissan 180SX
Blah blah blah
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>>14772813
Twin rotor twin turbo? Where do i sign up?
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>>14771735
[Post meme]
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>>14772886
what the everloving fuck is that
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>>14773081
You mean chassis codes that everyone around the world fucking uses?
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Forced induction, 2 strokes, rotaries..

However you can never beat the torque delivered from a larger displacement engine.

And unless its a motorbike, or you are tracking at high rpm, torque will always be better. More reliable, more useful, more predictable.

Torque < Horsepower
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>>14771689
Replacements for displacement:

>Increased RPM
>Increased compression
>Variable valve timing
>More valves per cylinder
>Electric/hybrid assist
>Turbocharging
>Supercharging
>Nitrous oxide

that's all I can think of.
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>>14773194
>its getting warm out
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>>14773252
>>Electric/hybrid assist
outta here
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>>14771888
>reinventing the wheel
checked
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>>14771689
itt:plebs
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your car not weighing over 3000 lbs is a good start
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i think this goes here
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>>14775308
pfft, nothing personal kid
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There is a solution, but tree-huggers want them to dissapear.
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>>14775360
you win this round
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>>14775350
>$450,000 eccentric shaft
>87ft lbs of torque
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>>14773273
faget
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>>14775375
there's no possible need for that much electricity.

Even the most hardcore demo cars only need two upgraded alternators

is this guy trying to power a few houses and profit on it?
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>>14775415
>tarbos
>electricity
what are you even
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>>14775415
thats fucking Alma Gates old bronco you shitheel. she was building cars while you were still in your dads balls.
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>>14771701
this is probably the only car I've ever seen that can pull off diamond racing steelies
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>>14771701
Technically speaking, using a 1.3 rotary and comparing it to a 1. 4-stroke piston engine IS increasing your displacement, or at least your sewpt volume.
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>>14775473
Those are alternators. That truck was for a car audio competition, had something like 32 50kW amps in it.
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>>14775415
My guess is that things is a competitor for sound system competitions. Max db and all that.
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>>14775528
those are tarbos newfag
deal with it
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>>14773085
You're confusing nitrous oxide and nitromethane there.

>>14772873
>will a 6.0L Turbo make as much power as a 2.0L QUAD TURBO?
No, because 4 turbo's =/= 4 times the boost pressure, and it´s the boost pressure (assuming identical intake air temp) that adds power.

>>14772881
Because that'd be a bitch to pipe. You'd have two sets of two cilinders, and then two individual pipes, running into four turbo's with 2 different a/r's/diameters etc.

>>14772996
Actually, no, it'd be less tressed, and therefore wear would be less. Sure, part-throttel gas consumption would be higher with the added ring drag, but still, power potential will be higher, and the engine wear would be lower for an identical power goal.

>>14773019
We cannot practically replace displacement because there is no comparable way that adds unstressed power to an engine.

>>14773006
Between the cooling of the 4 carbs, the big fat radiator, the small superchargers, the underdrive ratio on the pulleys, the lack of an engine bay around it, the lack of stress on the engines - no, it probably won't overheat.
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>>14771689
Don't reply to bait threads and if you do sage.
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>>14773155
Mazda already did that twenty years ago.
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>>14775368
>Only four cylinders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmnsXTMLzCE
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>>14775592
two turbo engines, with the only difference being displacement will be stressed equally. now if you lower boost on the 5l to match or slightly beat the 3l, that's a whole other thing
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>>14775655
Two turbo engines, one 5L, one 3L, with identical power output, the bigger oen will be less stressed.
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>>14775685
with identical power output, but at that point you might as well go with the 3l since it'll be cheaper to build, and be more fuel efficient when not on boost. Why would you have a bigger engine that makes the same amount of power? The whole point of a bigger engine is more power.
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>>14771689
there is no replacement for displacement
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>>14775698
With otherwise identical turbo engines, one 5L, one L, and given the same amount of stress, the 5L will massively outperform the 3L.

3L isn't cheaper to build per se. The manufacturer might charge more to the end consumer though. Keep in mind a 3L turbo is usually more expensive to build than a 5L n/a motor.

More fuel efficienct when not on boost can be up for debate. Modern pushrod V8's can easily shut down lifters for example, effectively turning them into small V4's. Can't easily do that on a twinturbo DOHC I6, for example.

>Why would you have a bigger engine that makes the same amount of power? The whole point of a bigger engine is more power.
To reduce the amount of stress on the engine, and reduce NVH - power isn't always the goal. Also, bigger engines can offer identical hp with more torque (in general, depends on bore;stroke ratio and cam selection), so they can have a better powerband down low.

We're getting to the point though, that a well-designed boosted 5 liter engine is making impractical bucket loads of power. We actually have the luxury nowadays to pick between n/a or power adders, because you can make power any way you damn well please - and make so much of it it'll easily overpower the set of tires you chose.
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>>14775730
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replacement for displacement?

Plastic, fibreglass reinforced plastic and carbon fibre.
Also a hometrainer and intense biking half an hour daily.

Nothing improves all round performance like weight reduction.
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>>14771689
RPM, efficiency, and weight reduction.
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>>14771700
>replace displacement
>with weight
Not good enough
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