French cars

Renault is god teir
>Alpine
>5 turbo
>Twingo

I think they all have shit tier reliability. Would never buy one of them.
They usually look good, though.

>>14730072
They are very reliable. Look at the Peugeot 205

>>14730053
>there are 3 brands
>doesn't post Bugatti

I don't get it. am I set up for a meem?

>>14730093
thats owned by VAG

1. Admittedly nice interiors, otherwise shit
2. Shit
3. Shit

Irrelevant since Ford exists.

>>14730139
so what. Lamborghini is owned by Audi does that make them German? Dodge is practically being bitched boyd around by FIAT, does that make them Italian? is Mini suddenly German too?

where the manufacturer was born, is where its from.

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They're cunts. They make god tier concept cars that are actually built for legitimate road use and never even consider manufacturing them.

>>14730192
Difference is that bugatti is just a brand name VAG bought while lamborghini was a existing company. Minis are german too. What kind of retard are you?

>>14730082
I don't think I've seen a 205 in like five years, and where I'm from they were everywhere back in the day. They've all been scrapped because of said reliability. I see cars from other brands from same generation and segment regularly.

Some are great, some aren't.
I have nothing against French cars

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>>14730215
forgot pic

Unfortunately they have disappeared of the USA

>>14730192
founder dead
company bankrupt
production and engineering no longer local
now only exists for the purpose of badge engineering

enough of this necromancy and let them rest

>>14730211
TU engines are expensive to keep running
but I think the main issue is that the cars are so light that they do not survive rust or any crash

>>14730062
They literally saved my life, so

>>14730211
>>14730082
I drive a '98 205. It's a fun car, but you'll never hear me say it's reliable. Evreything about that POS is broken.

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I've always liked pic related for some reason.

>>14730495
they stopped making 205s in 95/96

>>14730053
>>14730062
I came here expecting twingo shit posting...
I am severely disappointed.

>>14730053
French cars used to be great. Think Alpine-Renault, Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension, Talbot, etc.

Now they are quite meh and, above all, fugly as hell.

ITT: tasteless plebs
>Renault makes the greatest hot hatches
>Peugeot is unJUSTing with the new line up
>Citroen is doing great with the DS line

>>14731209
>Renault makes the greatest hot hatches
lol ok

I beat one of those shitty RCZs back when I had my '01 Lexus GS430. Thing was brand new. Meme cars. Next!

>>14731212
The RS 265 is literally the best hot hatch you can buy.

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Some of the best and some of the world cars in the world.

>>14731224
>poor man's Focus with meme suspension and no interior
would take an RS over that any day

I had a 206cc and a 2CV6
If u guys have any questions

>>14731230
Good for you, then.

>>14731237
you're free to go

>>14731230

You're american aren't you? That's literally the only hot hatch you guys know.

>>14731271
not my fault America beat the yuros at their own game

>>14731284

Slow down there anon. You're not implying the focus is better than the megane are you?

>>14731284
If, and I mean IF, the Focus RS is better than the Megane around a track I wouldn't credit the americans for it.
Firstly because it probably isn't and secondly because the Focus RS wasn't developed by americans.

>>14731312
well yes, as it's both fast and fun, as well as possible to live with every day

>>14731284
The Focus is 100% European design from top to bottom.

>>14731336

Ok, what you imply needs experience in both cars, and since you've been answering me from the beginning, you are probably american like I suggested. How could you know the focus beats the megane if you literally can't sit in the latter?

>>14730053
I love the Peugeot hot hatches, like the 306. I only really like the Turbo 5 from Renault, but I do like Megane styling a little bit. Don't care about Citroen though.

Horrible exteriors. The demands and fuel consumption of that market are different so cars shouldn't really be compared on speed.

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1984 to 1997 was the golden era of Renault IMO.

>>14730053
Astonishingly expensive to insure.

>>14730335
How so?

>>14730072
My dads megane (mk1)is going 18 years stronk DD and countless trips, need to check miles sometime
Dad knows his shit and it really doenst feel like your normal renault

>>14730335
I'd like to hear that story.

>>14731216
Driver must have been a total idiot then, OR it was the base model RCZ with the 150-something hp engine. You couldn't possibly out accelerate or out turn a RCZ R with your Lexus barge.

>>14730335
Not him but an old Renault gave his life in order to save mine too. First gen Laguna wagon, shitfaced after an evening with some friends, decided to go breathe some fresh air driving at night on local windy roads. Worst decision af my life but hey I was young and stupid. Drove something like 35-40kms, tires chirping in corners and roundabouts, redlining the POS 1.6L on every occasion. Then
>Last roundabout on the way home
>Live literally 500m from here
>Decide to give it the beans around the roundabout
>Hectic skid, both right wheels screeching like crazy, sliding a bit
>Have to exit the roundabout
>Exit is much tighter than the roundabout
>Hit the banking/curb/whatever it's called, now 4 wheel sliding on wet grass
>Try to save it by applying PEDAL TO THE METAL
>JUST
>Come down from the curb
>Drift across the road, car uncontrollable, hold on for dear life
>Hit another curb sideways
>Car goes airborne for 10m, feels like an eternity
>Get back on the ground
>Hit a lamppost sideways
>Airbags out
>Calm down and look around me
>Lamppost is were my passenger seat used to be
>All windows burst
>Smoke everywhere
>Think that if the cops come they'll arrest me for driving drunk and I'll never be able to insure a car again
>Try to move the car
>Gearbox still Ok apparently, engine starts
>Release clutch
>Mfw car separates from lamppost
>Car is driveable, but drives sideways like a crab (rougly 20° angle between chassis and driving direction
>Limp it home in second gear
>The next morning go take a look at it
>Chassis is bent at 20-25° in the middle

I will never drive drunk again.

>>14730053
Trash.

>>14730053

Basically any European manufacturer is just as good or reliable as the tanks they produced in WW2.

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Will the Alpine save French sportscars?

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The new Megane is pretty nice.

Cars for clueless >muh avant-garde hipsters.
In reality french cars look like pseudo-futuristic crap when they're new and even shittier after 5 years. They're just as expensive as Fords or Opels while being worse in every way. Only frogs and women drive french cars.

>>14731334
>>14731341
Yeah, we cucked you into doing the dirty work and keep the profits

Thanks suckers

Every country has cars that range from good to bad, I really don't use country of origin as a deciding factor of good or bad cars, hell even the same manufacturers vary from shit to great.

>>14730053
My dad used to have a Renault.

It was a piece of shit and broke down every other day.

Don't really think much of them since we don't get them in the US.

A megane would be cool

>>14732232
>we
thanks for providing work to european engineers and factory workers

T W I N G O
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Some of the styling on french cars, its like they made them wrong on purpose. On the other hand, there are a few that look stunning. It would be a case by case thing with me.

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>>14731381
yee

>>14730192
Special kind of autism

>>14732162
Nice story.

>>14730335
Was in a crash in a Renault. Convinced it saved my life. Have Post Traumatic Amnesia and a bunch of injuries, so no idea what happened, but I'm alive. Based 5 Star Euro NCAP.

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>>14730053
>I only know 3 french manufacturers

Video related
https://youtu.be/JQugEZOrZSc

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>>14736081
Peugeot got its shit together though, they went a bit germanic.
The SW is really good looking too.

French were great when they were built for the French.
Now that they are designed to compete on a European market, they're not so good anymore.

But still better than English.

>>14736994
But compared to other cars in its class, the 308 is still pretty poor to drive.