Nissan pls

Welcome to the future.

Gm has recently been arguing in court that you are only licensing it's ECU software. You own the car, but they own the software that makes it function. with OTA updates, they can update it to track whatever they want it to track, and you're stuck with the choice of accepting the new software EULA, or owning a big fucking paperweight.

>>14697703
Nice GT-R OP

>>14697703
>press decline
well that was hard wasn't it?

>>14697764
>press decline
>car doesn't start

>>14697764
>press decline
>warranty void

>>14697703
What happens if you decline?

>>14697799
The NSA is now tracking you instead of Nissan for being a dangerous outlaw/contrarian.

>>14697736
I guess aftermarket ECU companies are gonna get some extra business then.

>>14697736
>buying new cars
>buying new GMs

Why would you?

>>14697799
only terrorists and terrorist sympathisers do that, sonny.

>>14697846
This. Thank fuck for aftermarket ECU's.

This bullshit is fucking mind boggling and we need to be fighting to stop it happening.

>>14697736
I thought they were only doing that because of the aftermarket tuners

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>>14697786
lel

>>14697846
Yea, except it would be incredibly difficult to compete with the quality of a giant company.

>>14697778
>Get sued into oblivion
Not happening.

>buying a new car

this is why I will always own my car from the 70s

>>14697846
Considering how much of a modern car is computer controlled, it's basically new wiring harness, not just ECU.

>>14697849
It's not just GM pulling this shit. There's the nissan thing you see above, and all subarus will now have the tracking software available for insurance companies to negate the need for their own dongle. meaning at some point when you go to insure your new hybrid diesel WRX STI, your insurance company is going to ask for the code for access to your tattler. If you refuse you'll be placed in the highest risk group and charged to hell and back. If you accept, your rates will climb every time you enjoy the car.

>>14697899
That's part of it, but their main argument in court was to defend the car from "hackers". Attempting to apply the DMCA to their ECU.

Time to buy a 90s car and never let it die. 91 Celica here i come

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I can't let you do that.

>>14698070
>guyz its a manual srsly guyz

>>14698070
I need an explanation for this image.

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>>14698070
WTF is chebby doing? That's worse than the forced 2-4 skipshifts on the v8 challengers.

>>14698070
lmao

Cars peaked in the 80s and 90s.

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>>14698070

>>14697846
It's not gonna be easy to create an ECU that can replicate the functionality of the stock ECU properly.

>>14698085
It's a GM car with a bad automatic transmission and poor programming. If you try to shift and the ECU doesn't like it, it will tell you "shift denied". Note that this isn't the case on sports cars with good automatic transmissions.

>>14697703
Daily reminder that if you can't take it apart you don't own it. This goes for your car, laptop, keurig machine, etc... Vote with your wallet, people.

>>14698287
Ah, people on here know nothing as usual.
>>14698085
It's a trick GM used to cheat the EPA. It forces short shifting. 1-4-6, I believe.

>>14698306
>Daily reminder that if you can't take it apart you don't own it.
Who said you can't take it apart?

>>14697703
Oh shit!!
Tell me again why buy Nissan or any other shit Brand?

>>14697937
But they already do? The main companies are making ECUs to make the car function. It's not exactly rocket science to make an aftermarket ECU. It's on par with programming a normal PC.

>>14698307

It's the automatic gearbox in M mode. If you try to shift into anything above second gear while at idle it won't let you.

In the manual box, you'll actually get a digital image of the gear shift pattern and it will force you out of 2nd.

Easily bypassed and if you don't do that then just rev it uleh

>>14698314
software is a part of taking it apart.

I seem to recall hearing that cars with GPS capability would record that GPS data for some period of time, and that it could be played back to determine speed and so on... or is this just my paranoia fucking with me?

>>14698318
>It's on par with programming a normal PC.

>>14698287
>doofus trying to upshift at 1,000rpm
>durr hurr poor programming

I mean, come on, I know it's a shitmatic, but at least be accurate in your stupid criticisms.

>>14698455
You are being paranoid. Look up U.S. v. Patrick EFF Amicus,

Ill sum it up for you

>The U.S. Supreme Court has already recognized that data about where we go can be incredibly revealing and that cell phones hold vast amounts of private information—potentially the sum of an individual’s private life. The court ruled that searching a cell phone found during an arrest and tracking a car using GPS now both require a search warrant

>>14698633
Any one with experice with lower level languages and more basic systems can do fine. A fucking app developer is boned though

>>14698070
>open the pod bay doors, HAL

>>14698246
Pretty accurate summary.

Looks like I gotta start buying more shitboxes and put them in storage.

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>>14697703
NOPE

>>14700903
anything from before 2002 is good anon
>Modern OBD2
>still able to flash/tune without aftermarket ecu
>great aftermarket ecu support
I wouldnt go before 1996 unless you go for aftermarket security

>>14698070
lost

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>>14698070
Fuck you HAL
this is where cars are heading.
2001 space odessy was right.
Self driving cars are going to turn on their occupants, just you wait.

Pic semi related. Just change it do it applies to all this Orwellian bullshit

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>>14699851
Doesn't matter, genie is out of the bottle.
They'll find a way to fuck you.

>>14699974
>Any one with experice with lower level languages and more basic systems can do fine

lolno, that's only half of the equation. Confirmed not knowing how an ecu works.