Dumbest sleeper idea you've ever had?

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OP, buy an SVT and badge it as a base model.

Mine is less grounded in reality, and by less I mean almost not at all.

A van. Like an Express. Crank 800+ horses and like 850+ lb-ft and completely overhaul the suspension for street performance.

The only problem is that these have very high-profile tires because van, so the moment you bring down the size of the tire and up the size of the rim, it's gonna be noticeable.

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>>14668990
4x4 Mazda MPV van with a turbo rotary swap please.

>>14669284
>OP, buy an SVT and badge it as a base model.
What good will that do? They have different front and rear fascias, rocker panels, wing and wheels from base models.

MR 90s ford wagon

>>14669296
Rotaries aren't even that fast bruh

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>>14668990
>Buy Ultima EVO 1020
>Give it bodywork not unlike pic related
>Everyone assumes it's some pathetic hack job
>Go around London destroying actual Zondas

>>14669302
Yeah, but with a base model badge, it looks like ricershit instead of a legit SVT.

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>>14669316
Oh ok

>>14669296
That wouldn't be that fast. There are 200hp+ MPVs already and they still aren't fast because they are so heavy.

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>>14669346

>>14668990

Fiat x1/9 with turboed dino v6.

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>>14669318
Except they don't look ricey at all.

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start with AWD VR6, keep outside as stock as possible, add turbo and supercharger

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>>14669317
>do this
>rev engine near Muslims
>go to jail
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1347.asp

Easy. Buy one of those mid engine tall kei vans, and swap in a turbo flat 4 out of an sti. Crank the boost to like 20 psi, and put in the widest tyres I can in the back, maybe cut into the fenders from the inside to fit fatter tyres without making it too obvious. Boom, 600 hp+ drag queen. Just don't look at any turns

I always had a love/hate relation with the suzuki p90. Pretty sure it would be the perfect sleeper

1993 Nissan Maxima, and make it stupid as fuck on the outside. Big wing, stickers at an angle on back window, 4 big obnoxious tow hooks, XXR mexiflush wheels. basically I want this thing to look like a group of dumbshit teenagers put this thing together.
Put a GTR drivetrain, then watch all the sad faces when they get walked by a pile of garbage.

>>14668990
OP, I've just bought a 2001 zx3 actually. Had a non-working fuel pump so I got it for $1000. I just replaced the fuel pump, cost $200 for the part, and then I replaced the windshield because a rock cracked it. Ton of fun to drive. It came with an aftermarket exhaust so it sounds beefier too. I think it's a good looking car, especially if yours has the roof spoiler. I've also got some nice 5-spoke wheels, and two 10" subs in the back. I drive this car more than my daily driver.

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>mild racing scene here were people throw small $100 bets on roll races
>everyone in friend group has "intimidating" cars
>can't even borrow gf's car to race since people still think NA Supra's are fast
>least intimidating car we have is a 6 speed fbody, but only newer 5.0's are willing to put money against it which is pretty risky
>come to the conclusion we should build a super sleeper that nobody would expect
>decide a late 90's corolla with a swap & tire would probably be the last thing anyone would expect with a quite exhuast
right now trying to thing of an engine that would fit & be able to make cheap power.
right now thinking of a 3800 series L67 GTP swap or a Honda engine to keep it FF

>>14668990
Riced CE series Lancer/Mirage coupe with a 4G63T and Evo drivetrain swap.

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>>14670201
The 3800's are FF, m8.

Also, small tip, you can source a supercharged series 2 from select 8th gen Impala SS's and Monte Carlo SS's as well. The Montes say Supercharged if it has a supercharged 3800 in them, not sure about the Impalas.

If you're going to take the transmission with them as well, I'd look up the ratios. The GTP, Impala, and Monte Carlo had different gearing ratios in their respective transmissions, despite them all being 4T65E-HD. If not, well, the engines are all identical.

>>14670201
3sgte is a very easy bolt in

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>>14669284
Renault did something like that, but went even more extreme.

Yes, that's an Espace body put on a Formula 1 chassis, including the F1 car's engine.

>>14670523
Kek level high.
Imagine...

>>14669437
>http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1347.asp
what in the flying fuck

How bad is Europe?

>>14668990
>buy Nissan S-Cargo
>buy somewhat crashed Pulsar GTi-R
>cut out floorpan of GTi-R and insert into S-Cargo
>swap SR20DET from GTi-R into S-Cargo
>widen the factory steelies and make matching guards to go over them so they don't look ~too~ out of place
>sticky rubber, decent suspension
>????
>AWD fast as fuck snail

>>14668990
Just....

Yeah.

https://youtu.be/AgwzHJo3IXM

>>14670492
>>14670201

hell even some buicks can be scored with the supercharged 3800

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dumb sleeper idea, take one of these....

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...and one of these...

>>14669296

>rotary engine
>fast

Pick one

>>14670201

There is literally no excuse for swapping in any engine that's not a 3S-GTE

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I had a spare 4AGE with a broken engine mount from my Corolla that I wanted to put into a Geo Metro, but I don't have enough money, time or skill to do shit like that so I sold it for $200 to a guy.

renault clio
they seem to have pretty decent power engine, but I don't much about renaults. but if you add a turbo as well it could be pretty powerful (it's already 120kw stock). they're pretty cheap cars though but they're European car so here they're probably expensive for parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plhzBh39Cx0

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Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon exterior with the 155 TI DTM underneath.

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>>14671766
Needs more NOS.

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>'sleeper' focus
>not one of the shoehorned V8 ones

http://www.superstreetonline.com/cars/new-car-reviews/0404scc-ati-terminator-ford-focus/
http://thegarage.jalopnik.com/this-v8-rear-wheel-drive-focus-is-a-monster-sleeper-for-1636876920

>>14668990
SO OP.

SINCE YOU POSTED A PIC OF A ZX3, I'VE GOT A SUGGESTION.

If you want to be a badass after pulling your hair out for a year, buy a 1999 manufacture date duratec 2.5 svt and put it in the zx3.

200hp, plenty of torque. If you make some modifications, you could even put a supercharger on it and have a fun time trying to keep your wheels on the ground.

Enjoy your torque steer, have fun, be safe.

>>14671088
>rev engine in traffic
>Muslims tell police you revved in a racist fashion
>you go to jail
That's how bad Europe is.

I find sleepers really appealing.
Only problem is if I'm correct 90% of the time you have to do an engine swap to make it go halfway fast and that's expensive and time consuming.

>>14672069
It's the UK. They're different. For the moment.

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pic related.

this triggers vagfags so much, but its such a good idea.

Dumbest things I could think of are either an Audi A2 with a busa engine (maybe a V-Max engine? issue being that anything's a tight fit in there) or taking the tiny ass Toyota Auria and giving it a similiar bike engine upgrade

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Some dude swapped a Saab 2.3 Turbo 250hp engine into a Lanos.

I myself think a Twingo with a 1.4T is a good idea for a sleeper, even though any crash at >60kmh would be lethal.

>>14672141
>all that money
>into a Daewoo

Then again, literally nobody on the planet would expect it to be quick.

It was probably stupid cheap as well.

>>14672082
>engine completly infront of the suspension

brilliant idea m8

>>14672071
https://youtu.be/aKGWrZcRt3Q

Pretty much done, although marea weekend 20vt sleepers are more common

>have 400hp car
>drive autobahn
>have to slow down, because car in front
>opel zafira moves over
>floor it again, because why not
>zafira stays with me until I win out by gearing, thus top speed

Freaky. Funny. But why would you spend so much money on a Zafira?

>>14672168
It's made for numbers, not handling.

>>14672191
He obviously has kids, but doesn't want to sacrifice going fast.

>>14672208
So get a power wagon. They're much nicer in all regards. Or be pussywhipped into a shitbox, I guess.

>>14672168
like 99% of fwd cars

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>>14671061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGUyIOGVa0M

>>14672191
Zafira GSIs come with a 200hp ecotec motor.
Can't be hard to get one over 300hp

>>14672170
damn son, I'd drive the shit out of that car

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>>14668990
>dumbest sleeper idea you've had?

Mazdaspeed Protege, hands down.
current car I'm looking for for a new project will probably be my second dumbest.

>pic related

>>14672141
Only fucking poles could think of that

>>14672268
Yeah because we're actually creative.

>>14672292
the only thing polacks are creative at is finding new ways to get invaded.

99 honda insight with a nasty vtec swap.

Found a Focus ZX3 going for $1.8k

How do they drive? Are they cosy? Nice handling?

I've always wondered if you could fit a 1uz in a cressida wagon

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mistubishi mirage
evo drivetrain

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TURBO LANOS

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I want to turbo the shit out of my new dad mobile. All the parts are out there because 2.3 duratec. There is so much room to throw a turbo in there too. It would semi match my Thunderbird and Merkur.

>tfw no prius with mid-rear diesel V6/V8

>>14672357
I'm the anon that posted about mine earlier. They're pretty mediocre, nothing crazy special. Fun to drive because first gear is short as fuck and the engine sure does rev.

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>>14672078

>>14669296
Drunk drivin on a wednesday

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>>14668990

My dumbest/greatest sleeper idea would be installing these dual electric motors into a Yugo, Geo, or Daewoo.

http://www.evwest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=8&products_id=213

>Max Torque: 1000 Lb Ft

>>14672841

I like the Mirage Fix videos from DarkDragonWing

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf1z6ICGK4wXduI20gfPvGzm6yYrVdfXZ

I'm not sure about doing the AWD swap though, it looks like a lot of work.

http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-show-shine/535138-alchem1st-s-evo-iv-coupe-conversion-project.html

>>14668990
Big fan of zx3s actually, really decent little car, would love to see one made into a sleeper

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>>14669284
>>14670523
Don't forget the infamous Jaguar XJ220 test mule. The only noticeable differences are the supercar wheels and tires

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Speaking of sleeper vans
>acquire a third gen VW Transporter, pic related
>drop in the 4WD bits and swap in the Audi 2.2 20v turbo
>tickle the engine to lods of HP and blow the doors off everything

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>>14673773
Or get a T3 B32.

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>>14673773
>>14673781
Or this. Sleeper enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wjFROTXAvM

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Classic 4x4 Panda with Abarth T-Jet engine

>>14668990
Its not the dumbest idea. The vortech supercharger kits for this car are better tho. And itll womp more then just ricers with the right set up. Friend of mine had one.

>>14672082
>triggers vagfags
>featured in the biggest VW magazine
>people loved it

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>aztek
>3800 series 2 swap
>cheap, extremely ugly, and now incredibly easy to modify

downsides? autotragic, and irredeemably ugly

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>>14673945
>irredeemably ugly

Nah brah, Aztek was breddy cool.

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>>14671777
>>14671782

Nice trips.

This is done a lot on older Subarus (because lol still cheaper than an STi). I was thinking more of a Brat STi.

>>14673970
Actually nope. Thats been done a lot too.

Get old 4g6 dodge colt/mitsu mirage
Swap tsi/gsx 4wd
Swap in 6 bolt
Built top end
20g @22lbs

Super ultimate sleeper

Also a 6g7 tt swap would be fucking crazy

7th gen Honda accord, swap Integra or civic si k20/ecu for sikkk redline, swap in awd system from a crv or crosstour, boost it to the moon

>>14674236
you a dumbass the k24 in the 7th gens is has just as much potential as the k20 if not more
a drivetrain swap would make it an evo/sti killer

>>14674280
Well a k20 is still required for the well sik head swap
>tfw no exhaust VTEC cam

I've been tempted to put a Small Block with Nitrous in an S10 truck.

Or one can get a SRT Neon and remove all the badging and effects to make it look like a base neon, should work out.

Maybe any ford vehicle with a 5.0, just properly mod it to get mustang tier performance.

>>14669437
>http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/13/1347.asp
Jesus christ i hate our world.

>>14668990
>take nismo juke turbo mr16ddt + 6 speed manual
>slap it in a Nissan cube
PROFIT

>>14668990
I've always wanted to put a powerstroke in a AWD lancer

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>>14668990
>gutted nissan sentra
>vq35 swap

Es300 just supercharge it, and call it a day.....yeah ik pretty stupid

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>>14668990
I recently got myself a sierra. it would be awesome to make a cosworth model look like a regular sierra...

>>14668990

>not buying the Ford Perfomance Focus RWD conversion kit to install a 4.6L mod motor

>>14670500
>>14671816
Bullshit, 4A-GE Silver and Blacktops are drop ins, not this, I googled it all afternoon and all I here is that putting a 3S-GTE in an AE100 is not a drop-in

My roommate wants to build a Mazdaspeed 6 AWD wagon.

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>>14675372
Your friend has a great idea

Mine is 4A-GE Silvertop with headwork and forged pistons, get a supercharger setup like the 4A-GZE, and put it and the manual in a 97 Tercel Blackhawk

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>>14675108
I want to do the same with a Lancer Evo or Nissan Pulsar GTI-R.
Or a Ford Granada V8

Mid 70's Lincoln Town Car
built 460ci Ford with twin turbo's
factory widen rims on rear or custom made rims to replicate factory. maybe tubed in the rear with suitable diff and suspension to suit a drag radial.

It be a really fast land yatch.

>>14672141
Twingos are pretty safe compared to other cars of that era.
Also you can get a Clio RS 172 engine in there with a bit of work.

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>>14668990
>datsun sunny
>rear mount whole Camry K-frame, with 1MZ, and apply large turbo charger
Of course these days Toyota probably has better offerings, but whatever. The 1MZs are kinda indestructible - six bolt mains etc, lots of off road racing guys using them in buggies with great success
>happy wheel standing fun times in muh datto

>>14675447
My old boss has a Lincoln Continental with a turbo'd 460 in it. The boost certainly helps, but it's still a big, heavy car with what was a fairly asthmatic engine in it in standard form.

Fucking cool though, let's be honest

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Does making an anti-sleeper fast count? If yes, Evo drivetrain in a Tiburon.

If it needs to look like a shitbox, Evo drivetrain in an Excel.

>>14668990
>dumbest sleeper idea

I was considering slapping a SC on my 2000 V6 VW Passat. never went through with it because it sounded stupid

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>>14668990
SRT 10 in a caravan

>>14668990
B16 or K20 in a Trabant.

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>>14678104
Or a rotary in this.

>>14668990
Alfa 145 with a Busso V6. If it fits in a 147, it'll fit in a 145.

Alternatively, a 2.0 TS with a turbo will do.

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this and a midmounted Olds 455. Just put a rac over the bed to cover it.

>>14672121
Audi A2 is on the same platform as the Polo/Ibiza iirc, which would mean it can take a 1.8 20v turbo. those things can rip with a good amount of boost.

>>14678116
shape the rack to look like a fridge or concrete mixer perhaps even a pile of wood
then cover it with a tarpaulin this gives apparent reason for the rear to be so weighted

I think the hardest part with sleepers is hiding the wheels and exhaust note

for the wheels you could use widened steely (or double up the rear tires - some kei trucks do have this but it's rare)
hoosier makes some tires for formula ford that will fit on the stock with and diameter but that would cost allot
to muffle the sound you could turbo the engine then add oversized mufflers

biggest issue is once its raped a few people there will be rumours of some kind of devil kei truck so some people will know
best to start with a car that is both common and famously slow

>>14669437
>Hana Saad, 23, said through an interpreter, "Maybe because we are Muslim."

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>>14669317
ghetto-hypercars need to be a thing

>sleeper
Pretty stupid idea to begin with, would be tough to go any further.

>>14678298
Amazingly convincing reasons there. I bow down to your intellectual superiority.

>>14668990
Eagle Summit with all the AWD/Tarbo bits swapped in.
Chrysler K Aeries/Reliant sedan with a Turbo IV motor innit.
Ford Farimont with anything good from the Fox platform. I dunno, YOU think of something!
A Geo Metro with a supercharger on. Look it up, at least one person was crazy enough to try it.
Late-90's beige Buick Century with the supercharged 3800 swapped in.

>>14677376
Hellcat grand caravan
>muh dick

My buddy and I love sleepers. One of our ideas was a 73 Cadillac Coupe De'Ville with a 500. Open up the engine a bit, or swap in a 502 Chevy. Make custom badges, call it Coupe De'Grâce.

Other ideas have included a Buick Roadmaster Wagon, a 1983 Mercury Grand Marquis Coupe with a 351W, a PT Cruiser with a Rear mounted Northstar V8, a XJ Cherokee with a 2JZ, and an AMC Eagle with a fuckton of boost.

I'm planning on buying a 2004 BMW E61 535 diesel touring, debadging and remapping it to about 300hp. It will look and sound like the average 530 or 525 diesel except powah

>>14678427
>XJ Cherokee with a 2JZ

Should be an RB30 and dose it like a sick kunt

I have always dreamed of getting a E46 M3 and swapping its bodykit with one from 316i.

Mitsu Mirage with a VQ37 engine in it

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>>14670500
>>14675331
>Find shit looking Camry All-Trac
>3sgte
>mawds
>somthing like 500-700 hp at the wheels

blow peoples minds

>>14669302
No one can really tell my friend has a SVT and its not that much different any normalfag or non svtfag wont be able to tell the difference

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>>14680346
>1st gen forester
>2 13b's side by side in the engine bay
>piped/timed to maintain the "subie rumble"
>full STI suspension/trans swap