Is the Mustang a good car?

No, its a car for people who dream of fast

It's a bad car if you cant afford it, got beat by one, enjoy anime, your dad hated Fords, or your favorite manufacturer is in Germany. Otherwise they're pretty k.

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>>14447432
i like mine

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>>14447451
>It's a bad car if you can afford a Camaro instead
Ftfy

>>14447534
>buying a $40,000 hotwheels car

>>14447534
I want to like the Camaro. I certainly respect it. But it's too ugly imo for me to buy it.

>>14447560
Buying a Mustang when it's heavier with less power.

>>14447534
Unless you've actually driven a Camaro.

>>14447563
Play around with the build and proce thing on their website until you find a color/stripe/wheel combo you can live with

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>>14447566
You must be thinking of a 5th gen, the new one is great. It's a Cadillac ATS-V with a bad ass v8

>>14447564
It's a 20 lbs difference, brah.

>>14447451
>or your favourite manufacturer is in germany
This. I used to have a hardon for american muscle and I was dismissing everything else until I actually got into cars. Then I realized how superior German machines are and why american cars lose value so badly. Still love the classic muscle though

>>14447578
Really wish the styling wasn't so bad. This gen is very impressive though.

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>>14447432
I dig it.

>>14447678
How's that rear visibility?

>>14447685
Terrible on most cars built after 2013, thank you

>>14447685
Back window is pretty good actually, my sides are ok enough, it's got the rear view camera with detection and blind spot monitoring. Maneuvering hasn't been an issue in heavy traffic.

>>14447678

Hows that V6?

>>14447678
shitty car is shitty

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The V6 is not as shitty anymore. It's just too quiet. I'll get a GT in a few years when I make more money.

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>>14447582
>It's a 20 lbs difference, brah
And a 20 HP difference
And a 55 ft-lb difference
Mustang is slower 0-60
Slower to 100
Slower on the 1/4 mile
Less g on the skidpad
Worse in every measurable performance stat

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>>14447764
Ls>coyote

>>14447802
All day every day my nigga

>>14447764
I was only talking about weight because idiots keep bringing it up like the Mustang weighs 500 lbs more.

>>14447764
[autism intensifies]

>>14447875
Facts = autism
OK slowfag

>>14448012
Being obsessed with abstract numbers = autism

>>14448030
>abstract numbers
Nothing abstract about them.
>obsessed
One Google search

>>14447875
>>14448030
ITT: Mustangfag does mental gymnastics to convince himself 0-60 and 1/4-mile times don't matter

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>>14447732
Not notice the gt or the 5.0?

>>14448145

Yeah and your V6 brakes, wheels, and tires.

>>14448145
Is that a roush?

>>14447732
Literally says 5.0 on the side retard.

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>>14448154
Nah

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Mustang is sorta ok I guess, but definitely not as good as Camry XSE V6.

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Hasn't blown up yet

>>14448226
>face lifted S197
Objectively the best looking Mustang

>>14447432
Looks like a fist

>>14447764
does anyone really care about stock numbers on performance cars? basically all of these will be modded in 10 years anyway, right?

>>14448297
>Objectively the most basic looking Mustang

Fix'd

>>14448538
eurocuck

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>>14448542
>graspingatstraws.mpeg

Sorry Ford got their collective heads out if their asses and actually produced a design that wasn't an over-hyped box on wheels

>tfw cant decide wether i want the 5.0 or the Ecoboost I4

Help me decide guys.
I wont be modding it and its going to be a DD.

Already have a truck for a project.

>>14448583
for a DD the ecoboost premium is the sweetspot of cost/comfort/practicality. drive the v8 as well before you make a choice though

>>14447432
Yes, but this thread is clearly shitposting bait.

>>14448542
>>>/pol/

>>14448480
Apparently the joe lewis fist statue was the inspiration for the redesign according to A Faster Horse.

>>14447764
And it's also only $7k cheaper than the camaro

>>14448297
But it's not a foxbody...

>>14447685
You people are so fucking retarded with your window shit meme, it's really telling this is all coming from Murricans who drive shitheaps from 20 years ago because every single European limo or sports car has smaller windows than that fucking Mustang. Learn to fucking drive.

>>14448941
foxbody a shit

>>14447875
>>14448030
FORD GUYS
O
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GUYS
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YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED AHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHA

AAAAHHAHAHA

>>14447451
>enjoy anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TfRQkR3ReY

>>14447432
They new ones are good cars, but if you buy one, you'll be associated with one the worst car cultures on the planet.

>>14447875
i'm a mustangfag, but you're butthurt af mane

>>14449372
>any car culture
>good

desu i wouldnt hang out with any of you off the internet

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>>14448098
>0-60 and 1/4-mile times don't matter
they dont. at all.

this is what matters.

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http://youtu.be/a05yF8OQ6Sg

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>>14449396
>>14449372
desu I hate being associated with the toxic shit fits that buy mustangs, they are some of the worst car enthusiast's, but you cant be so dense as to only like one car/brand etc

>>14447735
Jelly anon is jelly

>>14450029
I'm pretty sure you're mistaking the general gm and ford banter for autism. There's a guy at work that drives a civic si and we bullshit all the time. He says "dude I love your car, but it would be so much better with a ls1". To which I reply "yeah I would love it if it were slower and had to be towed home every weekend".

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>1800 kgs
>sports car

>>14450608
No one in this thread said it was.

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>>14450608
its 1600kg before you put it on a diet m80 and they can drop 100kilos pretty easily after that. This is speaking about s197 5.0's, i have no idea about s550

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>>14450608
Did you know:

The nissan gtr is so huge that 7 states require you to obtain a CDL in order to drive it.

>>14450689
The S550 is 1680 kg.

>>14450781
Wrong. It's only 1595 kg.

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I added one of these to my driveway not too long ago. It's actually pretty slow, even with the 5.0. But I'm planning on changing the gear ratio and putting a limited slip back there in the future.

I think it's a fine car for the price I paid, but there is a bit to be desired. Especially the old warping dash from all the years of sitting in the Sun. A few things don't fit right together on the interior, as previously state. But it's surprising me on how worth the price it was.

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>>14450843
The V8. You know, the only model this board seems to give a shit about.

>>14447432
It's an okay car.

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The big girl needs to go on a diet, starting with 30lbs of exhaust and we'll see how much the new wheels drop, supposed to be 9lbs lighter I think but we'll see once the new tires are on how much it really is.

>>14450878
Is that a motor swapped v6 or something? Every v8 mustang since 1986 is equipped with a lsd. You probably just need to throw a new clutch pack in there.

>>14450960

No, it's a 5.0 D, it still feels a bit slow though. I don't care much for the power but I do like the torque.
The other car I've been driving for years is forced induced though, so I might be a bit off kilter.

I know it's limited slip, but it's just not locking up when I want it to. Which probably means it needs a clutch pack. But I figured I was going to build a whole rear end off of a spare one at a junk yard, and plop it in in the future. Which would count a more aggressively locking diff.

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/o/pinon on dodge challenger?

>>14449424
2009 stock GTR made a better time
keep trying

>>14450390
>Jelly of a Mustang
I can got to my local car rental and rent a shitty mustang for less than 100 dollars

>>14451105
>tfw dodge challenger is my favorite looking muscle car but its a dodge and i could never trust it

>>14447534
This. The new Camaro is fucking magnificent, but the V8 is bordering on luxury car pricing now.

Was initially planning on getting a new 2SS. But the cheapest I can find are around $40,000 with a lot of dealer markup.

Subsequently I'm just going to get a used $20k Mustang Ecoboost Premium and drive it for 4 years while I wait for the 2SS used price to drop down to my budget.

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>>14449432
Damn

>>14450990
The 5.0 only had 215 hp. Ford has made 3 engine generation leaps since then. This same basic engine was being produced in the 70s.

You might as well have a 1st gen sbc. It's a fucking dog until you start improving the air flow.

>>14448218
X-treme Sport Edition

>>14450930
why dont you just hit the gym instead?

>>14451105
pros:
>cool looking
>nice sounding engine

cons:
>huge as ur mom
>weighs as much as alfonso's boyfriend
>fiat quality
>more expensive than camaro or mustang

>>14451714
Because sick gains don't reduce the weight of your car.

its a good car but my budget is too small for a v8 so i will probably pass.
for the price of a 2016 base v6 or eco you can get a 2014 v8 with the performance package...

a 2016 GT with performance package and recaros takes (with taxes) a bit over 50 grand in Soviet Canada

>>14451801
The Recaros are a waste of money.

>>14451832
normal seats looks rubbish, didnt get to sit in them yet tho.

>>14451801
>budget too small he says
>talks about price of veeate with perf. package (which is admittedly totally worth it), and $3000 gay seats
if you're bitching about 50k for a car maybe you shouldn't be eyeing something with staggered summer tires, V8 thirst and high insurance rates, especially up north.

>>14451844
Except for the headrest, the seats look the same. They're even made by the same company that makes the Recaros.

>>14447432
define good

>>14451861
i mean its too much since the dollar is shit here, at current US prices i would be interested in it.
also if you get the v8 you might as well get the performance package.

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>>14448150
kek

buuuuuuurn...

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American pony cars are the best all round cars one can buy

>Good looking coupes
>Decent DD ability
>Decent MPG's
>Not very expensive to own
>Huge communities with a decently long heritage
>Fuck huge aftermarkets to make them really fast
>Pretty comfy rides stock
>Can be had to comfy "luxury" elements at a working mans price.

Literally no reason to own any other car on the market other than being some badge whore.

>>14451915
I'm just going to go with this being bait, you couldn't really be that retarded, nah...

>>14451844
I've got the leather premium seats, pretty comfortable really.

>>14448150
those aren't V6 tires, or wheels. Those are base GT wheels, faggot-dipped black. the hood has also got the, uh, vent cutouts? It's definitely a GT, but I'm wondering where his rear spoiler went. Can you option to delete that without the performance package?

>>14447685
it's really not bad. you get used to it pretty quick

>>14447764
I mean the camaro guys like the camaro and the mustang guys (and a lot of women) like the mustang. the sooner everyone realizes that the Camaro is a better performing and more focused car, and the mustang is the more mass-market, comfortable and significantly cheaper one, the better off we'll all be.
even Car and Driver admits that the camaro is a lot worse cabin-wise and less comfortable on a daily basis. they ding the GT on it's lack of obnoxious exhaust note, which is a moot fucking point because people can and will upgrade them to be above and beyond the stock Camaro's note within a month of ownership anyway.
I have that magazine, and the Camaro won by something like, 5 points out of a hundred or so. It was a lot closer in the comparison than you'd think reading the article.
The mustang advertises to a broader audience, and gets the side effect of devaluing quick and the most common variant is an automatic V6 driven by a woman. But that doesn't mean that they're completely shit. It's just different.

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>>14451963
It's just the regular premium non pp wheels, optioned with the spoiler delete, thought the factory spoiler looked like ass. I kinda wish I got the 6 piston brembos but I'll probably pick up some take offs in the future. Yes they are fag dipped, I was playing with the colors to decide which color to get my wheels. Going gun gray and they are in the mail.

>>14451943
I disagree.

yeah they look good, for about 5 years, then they look like cheap shit. Remember the 90's camaro's and stangs?

Decent dd? defensive driving?

decent mpgs, agree

not very expensive to own= everyfag has one

huge communities = fags get together and turns into a pissing contest

fuck huge aftermarkets to make them fast = why isn't it fast all ready

pretty comfy rides stock - yes, and no. they handle like shit imo, and i drove a new shelby a while back when it came in as a trade in, and it seemed like it was made for shorter people. I'm 6ft2. and the "a" pilar was so thick i thought it was a hazard blind spot. Possibly hitting people you don't see about to cross the street.

can be had to luxury? dude really. buy a cadi.

I had a 96' v6 1st gen 3.6l going through college. what a piece of shit. Plastic as hell, I had to run 100 shot just to keep up with the gt's

Currently I have a 2005 C55 AMG, and an 07 Audi a3 2.0t.

I'm never going back american. It just seems like less.

>>14451963
>Can you option to delete that without the performance package?

Yes.

>>14452008
>Remember the 90's camaro's and stangs?

Those never looked good.

>>14452025
cmon now, when they first came out you thought it was cool, don't lie. I remember looking at the new 94 stang and thinking it looked cool when it came out, especially compared to the old box mustangs, like an ugly 88

>>14452037
After the 70s, I never thought any Mustang looked good up until the recent gens.

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>>14452025
this is a 2004 mustang

only 12 yrs old

>>14452043
Basically this, although I've just recently started to appreciate the fox body.

>>14452046
That's an ugly 12 year old.

>>14452046

>underage b&

>>14451909
>>14451861
anyone who buys recaros instead of getting the premium package and isnt building a track car where they need the 5 point harness is a dumb anyway

>>14447586
I started out with European and Japanese cars of the kind that have to be horse whipped to the max to get any speed out of them
so naturally I am a bit dismissive of seemingly lazy American cars

at limit I would say American cars are more difficult to drive
so long as one is careful with the throttle they can be fast but its just annoying to me how much power and speed is wasted

>>14452046
>those depressing wheels

>>14451864
>same company that makes recaros

you mean recaro?

>>14452090
No, I mean Johnson Controls who bought out Recaro a few years ago.

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>>14451844
I think the two-tone looks pretty neat. The cut pattern could be more interesting, but its not a luxury car after all. Seats are comfy and well bolstered.

>>14452108
just because you buy a company doesnt mean your production is in any way related to theirs tho

a volkswagen is not a bentley.

>>14452115

>those glasses

>that purse

>that junk in the door stowage

>the shit on the floor

Is this your moms car anon

>>14452119
>he actually believes this
>laughinggirls.jpeg

>>14452119

yeah and aston martin is a kuwait vehicle.

>>14452134
are you implying that volkswagens are bentleys?

production varies greatly even within the same brand from factory to factory. its not like JCI pillaged recaro when they were bought. it's just horizontal integration.

>>14452141
Bentleys are Volkswagen's.

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>>14447432

This is a depressing time for a Mustang fan. The 6th gen SS just beat up the Mustang GT in front of all its friends, stole it's lunch money, then knocked up its girlfriend.

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>>14449332

It wasn't a challenge to find a mustang in an anime, m8.

>>14450608
1st gen mustang
fully race prepared and striped
700 hp n/a v8
>weighs 1500 kg

>>14452208
>1st gen mustang
>700 hp n/a v8

literally never

>>14452257

kek

for what like 2 runs?

>>14452184
Don't you have to take the automatic to hit that faster time?

>>14452317
Yes, the automatic is about 0.3-0.4 seconds faster than the manual.

>>14452184
i wish the interior wasnt so ugly and the windows larger and i would probably buy one.

>>14452184
>Using the price difference to make the mustang faster and having fun doing the modding
> 0 percent interest from ford
>don't have to take the automatic >subjectivity better looking.

Eh not exactly on suicide watch yet anon, new camaro seems pretty cool though.

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>>14450608
>Pluralising unit symbols
>Literate

>>14452487
kill urself you fucking aspie

>>14451943
>5 l engines
>Not very expensive to own
delusions

>>14452487
clearly you haven't studied the SI brochure

>>14452569

>You can fill up both cars now for less than $30
>Both will give you a weeks worth of mileage before needing to fill up again
>Oil every 3 months or so with a filter is around $60
>Reliability is high so rarely have a sudden failure that needs addressing

I mean if you're like McDonalds tier poor then it's not bad at all

>>14454233

>I mean, unless you're McDonalds tier poor**

>>14452569
Insurance is less than my old v6.

>>14454233
His probably european m8, in my country you get jacked up road taxes and insurance after 3l

>>14452208
1st gen miata with an ls
400hp
1050kg
Faster than all these gay "muscle cars"

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>>14455395
>calls muscle cars gay
>suggests a Miata

>>14447732
It literally says GT right there you dumbfuck

>>14448030
0-60 and 1/4 mile are super abstract bro

>>14447534
>supporting GM's practice of murder

>>14451455

I hope I'm not really challenging your intelligence here, but I have the D 5.0 Motor. Since it's a real Cobra. It has 240/285 hp/lb-ft motor. Not the 215.

not unless its a roush

>>14454233
>>14454993
>Just ignoring motor tax
wew

>>14452598
au contraire, mon ami.

The only other thing that could conceivably have been meant by 'kms' would be kilometre-seconds, but in that case, a space or half-high dot would have been required between the unit symbols, to indicate multiplication.

>>14447451
But I'm a Porsche loyalist yuropeen and love the new mustang senpai

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>>14455576
>motor tax

Sorry, we don't all live in Bongland.

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>>14455576

>motor tax

I'd hate to live in a country that pushes you to buy some shitbox two stroke diesel too

>>14455718
In the UK its done by emissions not displacement, and even then it's not that big a deal. Its really the catastrophic insurance costs that push people into shitboxes until at least their mid-20's.

>>14447451
>enjoy anime

I love anime, and I'm taking delivery of a GT350 in a month.

>>14447432
Only if you buy the GT and don't have a black interior (come on, you are spending so much, mind as well get something along with the black, like red on black or orange on black, w.e).

>>14452420
Sounds like a bunch of excuses. Next you're going to tell me how you can gut the interior and take out the AC, radio, and spare tire to save weight.

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>>14452365
Really don't see the problem

New 1LE is awful tempting as a 2013 GT owner.

Still like driving a bunker though.

>>14457626
Excuses for what? Why I didn't buy a car that wasn't even out yet? Oh and there is no spare tire to start with =/