Sleeper Cars

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>>14436772
I was thinking something like a debadged VW CC VR6 4Motion but only the base model 2.0T comes with manual as an option.

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>>14436772
Toyota Corolla S also stand out as potential sleepers, turbo kits are cheaper than dirt for it.
Anybody there?
one i'm looking at is a 2007.

>>14436772
cheap ass korean car with swap or something

>>14436929
thanks for the bump but that's not enough info to interest me.

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>>14436952
example - v8 hyundai excel
since you said under 10k though you're only going to have like 8k to spend on an engine

>>14436772
Buick Regal GS (W-Body)
MX-6 Turbo
Dodge Spirit RT
91 Mitsubishi Galant VR4
Pre-08 Cobalt SS

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>>14436966
problem - this will be a DD as well. If it were to by a weekend/fun car project I could see that, but the thought of DDing a v8-swapped car isn't really fun.
and i prefer my sleepers to remain somewhat silent until I give it some slack.
It's part of the sleeper charm.

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A 3 series.
You can add a turbo or make power pretty well with one of these, and it just looks like a grandmas car.

>>14436772
4.3 turbo v8
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5426871530.html

>>14437001
ops v6 not v8

>>14436998
i dunno man, what would the upkeep on it be, because finding one that's been babied it's entire life will be hard.
>>14437001
>Cali
>1,700+ miles away from me

sorry m8, would prefer a manual and needs to be a DD, plus I don't need two trucks.

>>14437001
No price nor mention of turbo

>>14437018
he probably saw the 4.3 and thought it might have a Syclone swap, but if it's the 4.3 V6 then it's not turbo, atleast not factory.

>>14437016
>finding one that's been babied it's entire life will be hard.
no it won't, and you're on an auto enthusiast board and looking to build a sleeper, so you should be able to fix any problems that arise

an Altima or Maxima with the VQ35.

>>14437134
OP said forced induction

https://youtu.be/EUrfIW4zQmM

Sleeprs are gay and cringeworthy. If vaping was a thing when this video was made guarantee you this guy and his friends would be chucking clouds listening to dubstep

>>14437155
>sleepers are gay and cringeworthy

Gtfo you don't belong here

>>14437126
I'm also not looking to spend an arm and a leg on parts for a BMW that will break when pushed.
Sorry mate, i may be an enthusiast but at the end of the day this baby will have to be reliable enough for me to drive it to and from work 5 days a week.

>>14437134
>>14437140
FI is not a must, but I prefer factory forced induction as it's significantly more reliable, and if it's not FFI, I intend on doing it myself, not buying someone else's.
Also, finding an Altima in manual is hard, but I'll look out for them.

>>14437155
tell me more how you got passed in your mustang while redlining by a corolla at 5k.

>>14437181
First off I listed a bunch, but if you want reliability the Regal GS is your car, but you never stated where you live, you American, Euro, or Oceania?

>>14436772
Any T5 Volvo turbo

>>14436797
the 2.0 is a better engine regardless. only advantage of the the vr6 is you can get air conditioned seats in recent models.

>>14437203
Fuck I completely forgot about this, pretty much any turbo Volvo out there, newer Saab 9-3s as well

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>>14437181
>I'm also not looking to spend an arm and a leg on parts for a BMW that will break when pushed.
HAHAHAHAHA Do you actually think that's how BMWs work? Especially not E36s. Tons of people daily drive BMWs without any problems. They are reliable cars, they are just expensive to get repaired. Parts can be had for cheap and installed for cheap.

>Also, finding an Altima in manual is hard, but I'll look out for them.
pic related

OP is a fag.

>>14436995
A v8 swap in a non v8 vehicle is amazing when you're strolling down populated streets. Everyone expects a big hog but there you are in something completely unexpected

>>14437213
That SE-R would be great if it wasn't for that awful paint job

>>14437212
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vylbWgyCzlg

Have fun looking

>>14437194
I can look into GS, never seen an MX-6 for sale in my area, and a Galant VR4 has been on my watchlist since I was 12 (that's about 9 years now).
Rest are kind of unknown to me.
America.

>>14437203
Even an S60R?

>>14437205
I see, my benchracer ass saw the better numbers from the VR6 and went "Yeah, that's it."
plus muh AWD, though desu FF, FR, MR, (MF)?
doesn't matter.

>>14437213
>Altimas aren't hard to find in Florida so they can't be hard to find in Dallas
you're making the same mistake the sticky does.

>he's under the impression that you can actually build a car, have someone take it and intend to push it to it's limits rather often, and it never break
>th-they don't break, b-but when they do, it costs an arm and a leg to fix

So, I was correct, is what you're saying?

>>14437218
that's not really the kind of thing i'm looking for.

2zz toyota matrix with the bolt-on supercharger

>>14437230
>>Altimas aren't hard to find in Florida so they can't be hard to find in Dallas
Pic related

>you can actually build a car, have someone take it and intend to push it to it's limits rather often, and it never break
If done right, yes. you can actually do a good turbo build and if you have supporting mods, it'll be fine.

>>th-they don't break, b-but when they do, it costs an arm and a leg to fix
That's not what I said. It's expensive to pay somebody to fix them, not to fix them yourself.

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>>14437250
>that's not what I said
> They are reliable cars, they are just expensive to get repaired.

>parts -can- be (can = maybe)
>installed for cheap
I'll give you that.

>if done right
I wasn't talking specifcally forced induction, but okay anon, if BMWs never break, BMWs never break.

>implying I haven't looked through half of those cars before

how about you try, tell me how many are mislabeled autos, and how many have 150-200,000 miles?

>because VQ35s are only rated from Nissan to be good for 200k miles, and I have no intention of replacing my car within 12 months of purchase

>>14437226
Its a pretty good list, but the Chevy SS is not a sleeper, I'll watch more of it later

>>14437272
and don't even get me started on the POS 2.5 they have in the newer models.

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>>14437272
hey guize recumend sum gud tuner cars
>great example 1
>great example 2
>great example 3
no..noo... junk/shit/unrealible shit no..noo

If you're going to shoot down every fucking car everyone suggest, then you're never going to find a car. There a tons of great cars ITT, and if you're not willing to sacrifice reliability for performance cars aren't your game.

>>14436772
A gray WRX. Swap on a standard Impreza bonnet and bootlid.

saab 9-2x wagon
legacy 2.5gt
unless the hood scoops aren't sleeper enough

>>14437502
Since your naming Subies, might as well throw in the 01-05 Forester XT

>>14437515
or the 05-09 outback XT as well, through on a legacy suspension and you've got a sleeper wagon

>>14437320
i said sleeper not tuner. stop throwing a fit over me being skeptical of a BMW. I said I would look into the rest, though once again, I am skeptical that I'll find an Altima worth a damn.
It's not my fault you didn't know altimas with the new 2.5 liter are dogshit.
It's not my fault you didn't know the Q series V6 in them is only factory-rated for 200,000 miles, and most examples are nearing that or over that number.
It sounds like they were great tuners - new.
But this isn't 2007 and I'm not buying a new Altima SE-R.

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>>14437502
Only Saabs available in my area are 9-3's and the SUV (9-5 I think) and only the SUVs are available with AWD trims.
I've heard bad things about Saab reliability (this is going to be a DD, I will drive it 7 days a week).

>>14437515
>>14437519
tax on anything subie has made me stay away but I'll look into those

>>14437356
There are very few WRX's in my area that I would consider looking at, and most of those are on the lower end as far as priorities go - They just have too many miles or are too expensive.

>>14437913
9-3s made after GM took over are NOT unreliable, especially from 06 onwards, doesn't matter the trim they're all reliable, and the 9-5 isn't the SUV

>>14436772
So does anybody know anything about working on Corollas? there's a 2007 Corolla S and a 2009 Corolla XRS I'm looking at.
Is the XRS worth it for the 2.4L engine?
Is it as reliable as a regular corolla? (this one has 165k miles, kinda makes me wanna stay away).

>>14437944
The 2.4 is from the Camry so yes, it will be reliable, you'll enjoy it over the 1ZZ in the Corolla S

>>14437954
>>14437954
How does it do when turbo'd? how much can the block hold?
sorry mate, the internet is full of tuning suggestions for Corollas from the 80-90's but woefully little on post 2000 models.
Should I be looking for Camrys? (since they share the engine)

>>14437943
but what about the constant memes (in real life as well as here) where it shows the guy starting the Saab and problem light after problem light comes on?

>>14438009
and I was being autistic, I have 9-3, 9-5, and 9-7, and it's the 9-7 that only comes in AWD trims.
Only 9-3's have a manual trans, and they only come in the 4-cylinder option, as well as all being either convertibles or built before 2006.
I know the 4-cyls aren't that bad but isn't pre-06 bad?

>>14438042
The pre-06s are not horrible, but they have their quirks, there's at least one anon on here that knows Saabs really well, you can have the manual with the Turbo 6 in the Aero package 9-3s and the 2.0T is a fucking great engine as well, and 9-7s are all AWD because they're the platform mate to the Trailblazer

what is "sleeper" car?

>>14438204
Car you camp out in

>>14438204
It looks slow and shitty, but has tons of power under the hood, usually due to the owners upgrades.

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3800 meme?

>>14438265
Not yours, but I would consider a PA Ultra to be a sleeper

>>14438299
Harsh man

>>14438224
this was my initial thought, thank you
lol

>>14438233
makes sense
is there a reason? or is it just fun?

>>14438301
Kek, is yours an Ultra? I thought only the non Ultras got the wheels you do

>>14438309
>is there a reason? Or is it just fun?

Yes and yes

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>>14438204
both >>14438224
and >>14438233

have a decent idea, but a sleeper is a car you pass and go "yeah, big deal." and then shit your pants when it guns it.
Anything can be a sleeper, depending on situation, but in general it's a boring-looking car that gets really exciting under power.
some anons may say "muh 4 door sedans" but desu a minivan is as much a sleeper as an SRT-4 Neon that's been rebadged as a regular SXT neon and had the spoiler removed.

a lot of it depends on what you see as faster than you, and a lot of it depends on what the person who owns the car does with it.
A civic that rolls lambos (theoretically) is a sleeper, even if it has a fartcan and a gigantic useless wing.
because you see those things and go "ricers" and pull in your lambo to be a prick - and it keeps up.
I roll with a lot of 250-300 HP sedans and coupes, mostly V6 swaps and a lot of noise, so I prefer something quiet and zippy, with noise being okay when I gun it, but I don't want to wake the neighborhood while idling.

>>14438310
This is true, it's not ultra but with the few mods I've done it blows stock ultras out of the water.

>>14438326
I remember reading reviews when the 2000 model came out and they said it was quick enough to keep with Z28 Camaros

>>14438318
>>14438324
Pretty cool
I've been trying to get into car stuff and I want to find a sporty looking car but I guess that isn't really necessary
Thanks for the detailed response too

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>Under 10K
>2JZGTE with 320hp crank with room for more

>>14438405
Swap or stock?

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>>14438399
everybody likes different things, and there are a lot of different things to like in cars.
I actually hated cars and car related things until about 2 years ago, mainly because I was kind of forced into helping my dad upkeep his truck (asshole DD'd a fucking Syclone) and later on had to do that in order to get money from him.
Then he unloaded a lemon-tier ranger on me for my first vehicle, and I found out it was kinda fun wrenching on something that was yours.
As far as my interest in sleepers, it started when I wanted to talk about cars with my parents. Anything that so much as looked sporty was kind of out of the question and would kill any conversation really fast. (Dad was really into trucks, mom liked SUVs) so I would pretend to like things like Corollas, Taurus', and anything that was an American luxury type deal.
first actual car was a 300 SRT-8. Recently gave it to my sister. was a fun car, heavy as shit, unfairly fast for the weight. after that it was kinda like "why do I need to look fast if I -am- fast?".
and now here i am, typing a monologue while I look for an IC for a Scion xB because who doesn't like a boosted box?

>>14438478
Nice blog post

>>14438497
thanks, i was unsure if I should use /o/ as my personal blog but with positive feedback it's no longer a question.

>>14438420
Looks to come stock with the 2jz turbo. I'm a Lexus fan and I didn't know this, but that's because in the states we get a 300hp v8

>>14438517
Feel free to give yourself a trip so we know who to filter

>>14438526
Are you talking about the Jap model?

>>14438527
feel free to stop posting in my thread so you don't have to bother. (^:

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>>14438550
>your thread

>>14438420

It's stock.

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>>14438560
OP's long gone, this is neetfag blogpost thread now.

>>14438478
>>14438497
I liked the post :*(
Thanks for the reply anon~

>>14438570
Oh ffs

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>>14438478
>I was kind of forced into helping my dad upkeep his truck (asshole DD'd a fucking Syclone) and later on had to do that in order to get money from him.
>DD'd a Syclone
>Syclone

Damn, id actually WANT to help my dad work on a car like that if he had one.

Love sleepers and that was probably one of my favorites.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJ0kMY6rc4
>track syclone

Crown Victoria. 4V engine, vortech or procharger super charger, Moosetang GT 5 speed trans, 4.10 diff gears

Thank me later

>>14437221
It's probably dip...

And if it isn't then dip it. Good car, 300 plasti dip and it's not hideous. Win win

>>14438542

Yeah, the RHD Japanese model has the 2jz-GTE, not to be confused with the Lexus GS300's 2jz-GE.

Lexus also has the V8 GS400 too as mentioned above.

>>14438607
>Thank me later

Yeah, when I bust through the guard rail on the touge

>>14438621
Confirmed for never having driven a CV. its a good sleeper you dense faggot, everyone will think youre an old man.

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>>14438571
no problem, welcome to the board. don't get caught up in the drivetrain wars.

>>14438598
i mean, it's easy to say that now (and i realize half the time I was just being a brat because rich)
but i mean it was literally daily, like
>get home from school, generally walking
>change into not-so-nice clothes
>be ready in garage by 5:15 sharp when pops pulls in
>be ready to go through truck with fine wire comb thrice
>dinner
>homework (if applicable)
>check truck again (if pops is feeling restless)
or
>bed
>repeat

weekends were a mixed bag because no schedule means it could be nice but there's the potential of getting dragged out of bed at 4 in the morning because pops thought he heard something funny when he started the truck to go out fishing.
it's easy to like something when you have an interest, it's not easy to like something when you have a forced interest, you know? and it's not like I'm ever going to get that truck (he's giving it to his brother-in-law in the will) so saying "I'm doing it so I don't have to do it later on" is a misnomer.

>>14438646
I'm not talking about it being a sleeper you stupid fuck, I'm talking about it being an over powered land barge that's literally a death machine, they can't handle for shit especially with that much power

>>14438607
This but with a Grand Marquis or Towncar instead. Everyone expects CV drivers to drive like assholes anyways.

>>14437203
I have a Volvo s40 t5 and I'm just getting my hands dirty when it comes to cars, what's some stuff I can do to it?

>>14438658
The 2V engine is the slow one. Drive a Mercury Marauder with the 4V and the 4.10. Its ridiculously easy to break the rear end loose with it. Do you even know anything about Panthers to be commenting?

>there are people on /o/ who cant appreciate the panther platform

>>14438670
I appreciate the Panther platform, and I've driven a Marauder but to think one could handle curves with 500 hp is foolish

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>>14438658
He's right desu senpai

>>14438670
Even the slow 2 valve base models love to light the rear tires up and swing their ass end out. Though that just kinda reinforces that guys point about them being hard to handle, especially with more power.

That said, they aren't. They handle nicely for their size. An okay sleeper but definitely not as subdued as a lot of other choices because so many non-car people see a crown vic, think 'COP CAR WITH COP MOTOR' and think that they're faster than they are anyways.

>>14438665
You could Google Volvo S40 tuning

>>14438681
Well to be fair you didnt specify you wanted to use it on the toogay, for highway pulls I think this setup would be ideal

>>14438684
Yeah I know, my winter car is a CVPI.

>>14438702
My 'the mustang is fucked again' car is a cvpi

It gets a lot of use.

>>14436772
4th generation honda accord. Then turbo it.

>>14438702
I said it in my first response, holy shit you're fucking dumb

>>14438621

>>14438718
get a load of this hothead lol

>>14438714
Lol. All my other cars are Japanese. 05 Maxima 6spd and an 07 350z.

>>14438726
>Baneposting

Jesus christ

>>14438737
>korean hand drawn cartoon inspired image board
>not expecting spergy autistic overused memes

Your fault desu

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>>14438747
I made the mistake of not realizing fa/tv/irgins crosspost here like the faggots they are

>>14438754
The meme is all over the boards man where have you been

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>tfw you're a reverse sleeper.

I've got a loud 5.0 foxbody. So everybody expects me to be a built motherfucker. The second thing people ask me about the car is, "izzat stock?"

>>14438762
I go where the wind blows me, anon

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Want to build a retardedly fast sleeper?

>Buy a BD Subaru Legacy
>Replace the scoop hood with a normal one.
>Swap in GD STi Drivetrain, Suspension arms and Brake setup
>Install a AWIC
>Install coilovers and set to near stock ride height

If you drive it well you will be pretty much able to destroy everything on twisty roads. If you want more power you can get more out of the EJ257.

>This is pretty much what you are building, just with a 3 inch longer wheel base.
https://youtu.be/wV3DwOnaO14

How about a non-sleeper-sleeper? Something that looks fast and flashy to non-car people but looks like a wannabe-mobile to car people but then is actually really fast?

Basically build up a sleeper and then get as ricey as possible so it looks like some teenagers slow as shit autozone special and other car people will just assume it's a slow piece of shit.

Too deep?

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>>14437203
This.

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>>14438764
Have you accepted the e303 cam into your life? He is your lord and savior. He is the only one who can lead you to salvation.

>>14437155
>If vaping was a thing when this video was made guarantee you this guy and his friends would be chucking clouds listening to dubstep
The people who vape and listen to dubstep have no idea how to wrench

>>14438764
>tfw LS1 trans am (non Ws6) with stock exhaust


>people think its a V6 firebird

kek

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Gs is gud, pic related - got mine with 117k on it for 1500

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>>14439034
The stock cam is okey. The real problem is these damn heads and headers. She can't breathe, captain.

>>14437203
the most sleepy is the v70 t5 with a manual. i want a 98-99 but might just swap my 850.
$2800 car
$260 for rockauto reman white injectors and an
ard r ecu reflash

240hp
240tq

>>14439513
>v70 t5

>3,488 lbs
>240hp
>not even stock

this isn't really sleeper status. maybe unless that's 240whp

its more like v6 camry tier.

>>14440054
a 91-93 v8 6 speed quattro, so sleepy nobody here would notice.

>>14436772
Taurus SHO

>>14438764
>tfw you're a reverse sleeper.
Pretty much every new car now, M8. Everything looks angry af yet provides nothing or just fast 0-60 and call itself sporty. Even the most base VW Golf has angry look of its headlights. Cut the muffler and you've got the same, just with "real" engine.

I think the humble neon is the ultimate sleeper, just build a 2.4l turbocharged.

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>>14436772
OP here, surprised this thread is still getting bumps.
After much looking and soul-searching I think a Cobalt SS is what I want.
How does this one look?

http://www.texashotrides.com/2009-Chevrolet-Cobalt-SS-Sedan-Turbocharged-Addison-Texas-75001/5741518

>>14440135
I'm checking those out right now to compare the prices/miles with the Cobalt.

>>14440179
SRT-4 /w 140k miles on it.
6,500. Better deal than the SS but the miles worry me. (I prefer less than 120k)

another one with 97k miles, but no pictures.

So I guess the question is Cobalt SS or Neon SRT-4?

>>14436797
>Vr6
Heavy shit
>4motion
It's a haldex
>CC passat
coupe wannabe sporty saloon tryhard =/=sleeper
This car is fast and handles only in brochure.

>>14440263
if you read the thread you'll find that I've already discarded the car in favor of either a Cobalt SS or a Neon SRT-4, I just haven't decided which one I want.

>>14437913
>>14438042
>>14438190
9-7 aero is pretty good and with its ls2 engine quite a sleeper.


The 9-5 aero/2.3T is also quite good, can occasionally be found with a manual.

as far as reliable, I can't speak to the 9-3s after 2003, but I think the only reason the 9-5 gets a reliability rap is people taking it to non saab mechanics. The car is a bit different and really does benefit from a specialist.

>>14440135
Get yourself a PT cruiser with the turbo and build that mofo to the moon. Bonus points for a white convertible with fake wood paneling.

>>14440278
Get an ion redline instead. Supercharged is best induction

>>14440096
88 Taurus sho

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/thread

1st Gen Neon sedan
+
Srt4 swap

Don't do any visual mods, steel wheels+ hubcaps. Stock exhaust but run an electric cutout. Drag radials with hubcaps for extra luls on the weekends

>>14436772
Chrysler K platform.

Get a Turbo IV, put it in a Reliant or Aries sedan. Guaranteed surprise.

>>14443471
+1 volvos can make awesome sleepers free from nigger eyes unless they know

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>>14436772
Get a galant vr4, ok on gas and pretty cheap if you can find one. But finding one without being modded to shit and not rusted out is pretty slim. Or go for a Dsm, reliability won't be as good though because #Americanbuildquality

>>14436772

>acquire Dodge GLHS
>upgrade bottom end and turbos
>destroy hopes and dreams