Cringe thread

>>14287928

this is my new favorite video. the dude dosent even try to save, hes almost spinning out on purpose

>>14287958
Looks like he just death grips the wheel in place as soon as he loses traction, then starts sawing away at the wheel while he's spinning, pretty odd. If you spun twice in the same session at track days I go to you would get pulled off the track.

Watched the whole thing. Dudes are obviously beginners and they're driving a car with an already twitchy rear so what can you do.

>incredibly obnoxious faggot smile
>"lol ~faaaiill~ I suck at this ~ look how much I fail ~" attitude
>piss annoying voice

faggot normie/10
didn't even survive 3minutes of that fucking heap of a video

>average s2000 owner

He has super bad target fixation when a car in front of him goes off the track.

Guy is a top pleb.

>>14287928
"selling a like new Honda s2000, NEVER BEEN TRACKED!"

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>>14287928
>ITT: benchracers criticize inexperienced drivers who are out enjoying their cars.

I don't understand the problem. He's learning.
Most of you faggots don't even have cars, let alone track them.

>that hand positioning

>>14287928
isn't this guy the tripfag with the S2000 on here

>>14287928

he's pretty hopeless but at the end you can tell he's adapting some. i mean how are you going to learn if you don't try, right

still worthless tho

>>14287928
I reckon he's got stock suspension, shitty springs by the way the cars rattling around and probably needs to learn a bit more throttle control for the most part.

>>14288075
>>14288186
You people are disgusting

This looks faked; otherwise they would have been weeded out through dying on actual highways for losing it. You wouldn't go to the track to be a dumbass all day unless you were there for a purpose - being a youtube jackass.

>>14288206
You're right anon no one should ever try things out they should just be born good like you obviously are

>>14288167
notamiata is his trip i believe.

There seems like there is something wrong with the suspension geometry or the way he has his car setup, that level of oversteer and bump steer seems terrible, maybe his suspension is way over damped or over sprung because that looked terrible.

>>14288214
Like I said at most track days if you spun twice in the same session you would get black flagged and booted, yet somehow tons of people manage to not spin out over and over. If you can't learn by repetition like the guy in the OP seek instruction, because any of the trying he is doing isn't going anywhere.

>>14288221
this video totally make him look like one of these people who think maximum hard suspension means fast by default.

seriously, there are tons of idiots who just makes everything hard as possible without thinking things through

If this guy was on a motorcycle he'd be dead.

this is why i dont want to buy a used s2000

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>>14288244
out of curiosity, what happens when you get booted? Do you get chewed out by the organizers or blacklisted form further events? Or do they just give you an understanding "hey, maybe you should probably try taking a performance driving course before the next event" sort of thing.

>>14288024
Get better reflexes.

>>14288327
I run quite a few VINchecks on S2000's, and an alarmingly large number of them have a good number of accidents, and a lot of those are salvages as result of accidents

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>>14288153
>benchracers being mad that he didn't break down crying and prostrating himself before the car gods as soon as he spun out

>>14288389
I don't know the exact procedure since I've never fucked up that bad, but they aren't going to blacklist you, most likely they would send you out with an instructor the next session and he would give the OK if you are good to go or not. 99% of people after spinning once cool down a bit, take it down a notch, and slowly ramp back up over a few sessions, not just go do the same thing over and over, the OP video guy is just an outlier who doesn't belong on a track that has other drivers on it and will likely always be that way since he demonstrates he doesn't have a mind that can learn from repetition.

>>14288153
hes not learning though, hes doing the same thing over and over and over again.

>>14287928
>his responses to those comments

i think he might have aspergers

>>14288389
They've only ever booted one person at my track when I've been there. If you spin out once in a session, it's fine, but twice and they usually make you take an instructor on the next session so he can tell you how much you suck and help you fix your errors

>>14288504
This nigger knows what's up

>>14287928
Gave up at 1:42 out of boredom 2 shit cars with shit drives in a shit country.

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>>14287928
Wait, how? It doesn't even seem like they're moving that fast.....how are they spinning out so much? Am I just blind and they're actually taking these turns at 140?

Legitimate question. Can someone explain please?

>>14289300
Overly stiff suspension, a bumpy track, convertibles and zero talent.

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>>14289311
>convertibles

>RWDlards think that "oversteer" is good

lmao meanwhile my civic cuts corners as if it's on rails with a few simple mods.

These kids would be found embedded into siderails if they were on my touge. Just saying, no hard feelings but RWD will never ever ever compete.

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>>14289300
I'd like a more detailed answer to this as well. I can see that the road is not in the best condition but can someone explain the other things wrong with this?

>>14287928
Stop lifting off you fucking turd.

>>14288344
Holy fuck 10/10 made me cringe and generally mad.

>>14289300
It's liftoff oversteer every time. He starts to slide and lifts off the gas in fear making the slide much worse, at least he stopped over-correcting.

>>14289356
its not the cars fault.

>>14289334
Doesn't understand the importance of I & J chassis values. Stay classy /o/

>>14289392
when in doubt gas it

It's like he's never seen Jeremy Clarkson take a corner. When you fuck it up you counter steer and power slide through.

Oh wait, his apex is often so fucked he's on the edge of the track before the corner even begins. Nevermind the power slide, just get out of the car.

>>14289371
it's actually not terrible, I've raced there before. It's right outside of Austin, it's called Harris Hill raceway

Woo! At 5:37 he finally does a tiny power slide.

>>14288344
I can't handle this lol

>>14288344
What's wrong with this?

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>>14289438
And then 6:00 happens.

>>14288221
The description says he has TEINs, so I wouldn't at all be surprised if what we're seeing is the result of shit suspension, because those things are garbage.

>>14289443
Seriously? This fucking guy welded the pipe to the turbo outlet on a near 90 degree angle just to clear the radiator, flow is fucked, turbo is fucked, and reliability is fucked. Not to mention the additional heat from the rad. Professional installation right there.

>>14288153
This.

>>14289356
>with a few simple mods

I see what u did there

>>14289443
Well the compressor housing is forever fucked

>>14288153
> learning
> has terrible driving habits
> spins out over and over again doing the same thing

>>14287928
>>14289356

After years of tracking FWD cars in the Honda Challenge I bought a AP1 my first half a track day went just like this. Then one of my buddy's sat me down at launch and explained how to drive a MR car. For the most part you can't modify your speed in a corner. you select a entry speed and stick with it, lifting in an AP1 means you go careening ass first in to the run-off. My family owns a self serve junk yard and all the s2ks that come in her are smashed in the sides or rear.

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>>14288344
i dont see a problem here

>>14288344
Lmaooo just noticed the fucking ziptie on top of that

>>14289398
please explain Mr chassis master

>>14289504
The S2000 isn't MR you fuckwit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N4tLAAy5Fg

This is all I need

>>14289543
Not >>14289398

But I (2nd moment of area of a shape, say a chassis) is a good analogue for the flexural stiffness of a structure and J (Polar moment) is a good analogue for the torsional stiffens, for vehicle control you want all of the wheel movement to be relative to the chassis and to achieve this you need a stiff chassis with relatively soft suspension.. You can't do that with a convertible because it's missing one of the main shear planes (and as I'm sure you know the distance between shear planes increases the I & J values as a square rule). So to achieve the same wheel rate relative to the road you need to use stronger springs and dampers and include the undamped chassis flex, this gives less control over the wheel geometry and contact with the road. Hence why Corvette, Aston Martin, Porsche and Ferrari all run the hard top versions of there cars in racing.

>>14289574
I cant stand it when guys constantly wiggle their shifter left and right while in neutral

(im a girl btw)

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>>14289597
>im a girl btw
>feels need to irrelevantly identify gender on anonymous board

I cant stand it when bitches think their gender matters when it comes to their opinion

>>14287928
I wish I took a picture of this but... sadly all I can tell you is the story
>Be me
>Cousin works at a "Japanese" restaurant
>Dece food
>I go there a lot because it is close, I chat with him every now and then, its chill
>be eating
>see a red corvette boat-tail pull in
>Older guy goes in, gets his food
>I was in a rush so I didn't go talk to him
>walk outside, notice that suspension in the rear is SAGGING
>notice trailer hitch mounted to the car, an 5 inch drop hitch mounted upside down
>start to cringe
>fast forward 3 weeks
>eating there again
>by chance corvette guy shows up again
>try to initiate car talk esque conversation
>Oh, that's just my 65 vette, it 'pulls pretty good'
>almost lose my lunch
>about to say something, but he excuses himself and leaves
>watch the car drive off towards the neighboring home despot parking lot
>all of my cringe
>there is a twelve foot landscaping trailer loaded up with mulch sitting in the parking lot
>no
>NOOOO
>watch this dude hitch his car to it like he does it all the time
>watch as a very sad corvette tugs a pile of bagged mulch off

>fast forward a month
>corvette guy shows up at sansui again, this time with a ford ranger
>"transmission blew, sold the 'vette."

CAN'T WAKE UP.

>>14287928
There is only one way to help this guy. Every time he enters a corner in the middle of the track, or worse..., I get to punch him in the balls. Either he stops or he loses the ability to procreate. I consider that help.

>>14289609
You'll never get a girl with that attitude. I bet your dick is 3 inches long haha loser. Just kill yourself.

(same girl btw)

>>14289548
technically no but it does drive like it's you ill-informed cock fucker

>>14289650
Why does it handle like its an MR if its an FMR?

>>14289587
thanks for the information. time to cage my miata.

>>14289618
At least the ending was happy for the car. Too bad you couldn't have bought it after he blew the trans.

>>14289653
weight distribution is about 50 50

>>14289587
I think you mean *their

>>14289661
so is a miata but it doesn't handle that way either, ya fuckwit

>>14289631
But he's right.... why identify youself
I dont start my posts with
>I am a skinny ass indian kid btw

Driving a r32,with a girl btw

>>14287928
>No counter steering
>Floors it thru every turn
>Engine braking no where to be found

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>>14289667
sounds like you have never driven a MR or any of the cars we are talking about this place is full of neets peace out

>>14289672
> floors it through every turn
> once he realizes he's coming in too hot, lifts off the throttle

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>>14289574
Is he actually in neutral going down the highway

>>14289597

you should be wiggling my dick left and right in your pussy

>>14289672
>>14289675
fuck me with the sharp side of a shovel but what the hell is engine braking?
I've been driving a 93 toyota pickup with a 5 speed for the past year and I've heard people say this and I have no idea what it mean. it's probably something I do without knowing the correct term.

>>14289574
>>14289730
I'm sorry I don't get the joke. That is exactly how I would have driven it. Pls explain the funny.

>>14289759
I mean, why the fuck would you put it in neutral when you're going down the highway, not even preparing to stop or anything. He just pulled out, floored it, fucked every gear change, then str8 to neutral.

>>14289759
He's KICKING THE FUCKING CLUTCH PEDAL AND DUMPING IT. THIS KILLS THE MAN.

>>14289766
He was way over the speed limit and didn't want to engine brake.

>>14289768
You mean power shifting?

>>14289774
That isn't powershifting, it's clutch dumping

>>14289797
You're wrong, and you should feel bad.

>>14289801
You can powershift without dumping the clutch, and you can dump the clutch without powershifting

Yea he's pegging the rev limiter for the fraction of a second that the clutch is in, but he's FUCKING KICKING IT. That thing is going to be fucked within 5,000 miles with him driving like that

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>>14289793

>>14289808
>You can powershift without dumping the clutch
No you can't.

You seriously don't know what you're talking about. That fucking tranny was garbage, but he was performing perfectly. You need to be quiet now.

>>14289356
le meme master

>>14289822
Yes, you can. Slipping the clutch for a fraction of a second isn't going to suddenly put you in a class of "not powershifting" and it's going to save your transmission from grenading

Have fun when the clutch plate on your civic flies through your block because you were trying to get hektik and hit dat vtak

>>14289829
The entire concept of power shifting is keeping power to the wheels. Slipping the clutch is the utter definition of failure. Why am I still dealing with your bullshit?

>>14289667
50-50 doesn't mean a car can't be tailhappy. I could make a limo 50-50 Ffs but that doesn't mean the ass won't slide out. A miata has a really short wheelbase that keeps it's ass in line unless you really push it or purposely kick it out

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>>14289860

>>14289757
say your in 4th but you want to slow down. put it in third (rev match optional) and your car will slow down. that's engine braking. every time you let off the gas, that's engine braking too, but engine braking works better at high rpm

>>14289860
you have that backwards

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>>14289812
I kind of like this

>>14289906
Trigger was wired to high beams

>>14289914
Thats amazing

>>14289917
Laso tried to wire it to the truck horns I had installed under the hood, but that didn't work out too well

>>14287928
>this is what happens when you lift off
ITT

>>14289414
>It's like he's never seen Jeremy Clarkson take a corner.

>he actually thinks the scenes with clarkson driving well is actually clarksson himself driving and not actually a pro driver

>>14289597
It's a neutral check, you should be doing it.

>>14289574
holy shit
sweet jesus
just watching it hurts

>>14287973
>if you spun twice in the same session.....you would get pulled off the track

ok then what the fuck is the point??? i thought the track was suppsoed to be the palce to go to push your limits, possibly push past them, and have a safe place for hektik skids if you lose control. i always hear people say "Take it to the track so its safe if you lose control" but here i find they kick you off if you spin....?

>>14289574

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuICpuIpfZI

Can you handle part 2?

>>14289356
>cuts corners like it's on rails
well it will be on rails when you understeer onto the guard rail

>>14291548
I was better the day I tried driving a manual. Do you have to double clutch in the C3?

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>>14289574
>In this Video you will see what you referred to as Camel riders,,, well let me tell you something about us camel riders,,, we are the richest people on the globe,,, in the video You'll see 17-18 years old kids who drive 300000+ thousand dollars cars,, we live in the country of free gas,, free of taxes,,, insurance and education and hospitals are all free,,, so yeah we have long names and long bank account balances too lol... I feel very sorry for you that you became such a hater because in your country,, y'all do drugs and smuggle drugs and try to smuggle yourselves into the Unites states,,, Most of women in your country are hookers because of poverty and you probably are a hooker yourself hahahaha

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>>14289840
>"All of my knowledge comes from wikipedia articles"

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>>14287928
i dunno, dude is on track enjoying his car responsibly

i'm a fucking shit track driver but i have fun safely too. never spun tho but i'd lose my spaghetti if i did. this chill dude takes it in his stride

fuck the haters

image captcha was noodles and spaghetti wtf

>>14289392
This cunt knows what's up

>>14289392

>at least he stopped over-correcting.

what video were you watching? the guy never even attempts to correct

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>>14289650

>technically no

what the fuck am i reading

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI5KM80iyIY

Another dumbfuck.

>>14293027

>Yellow flags mean gun it and over take on the wrong side right?

>>14287928
Christ what a failure.

>>14291420
Wasn't Clarkson a pro race car driver?

>>14291420
If it was he wouldn't slide through every fucking corner.

>>14293210
If he was he wouldn't slide through every fucking corner.

>>14292991
He does in the first two slides.

>>14291694
Nah, but I do like to reference things when making an argument to make sure I'm not making an ass of myself.

>>14293188
Holy fuck all those passing on yellows, this guy is either retarded or the most massive douchebag with small car complex

>>14292991
He corrects barely. Which is fine, the car will pull itself out of 90% of these if he'd quit fingering his pussy and just step on the gas.

>>14291537
Because track days are garbage now.
Long gone are the days of open tracks with practice and testing.
Now it's all a bunch of faggots hosting "driving events" with retarded rules and low track time.

>>14293027
What an absolute fucking moron.

>>14291537
Insurance companies have ruined life.

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>>14288344

>>14293268

From the shades, shorts, buzzcut and race gloves with no helmet I'm gonna guess its the latter

>>14291619

What the fuck? No. He's just a shitty dune coon that doesn't know how to drive.

>>14289609
>REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>14288084

This.

Also

>average Miata owner

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>>14289574
>constantly playing with the shifter.
Freud could write a book about that shit if he wasnt dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfX4Vmcvoc

>>14288217
And he is the epitome of shitty s2k owners. We're not all like him, I swear.

>>14291537
you build up to being hektic while getting gud rather than spinning around like a faggot. you're not a faggot, are you?

>>14287928
45 seconds, that was pretty painful. How are people this bad at driving?

>>14289840
You're a fucking idiot. Yes you probably could slam the transmission like that if it was built that way, but don't expect it to last. He's not racing, there's no need to slam gears like that. It's okay to slip a little when pulling on the highway. It's better than blowing up your fuckin car.

>>14287928
I like how slow these cars are going when they lose control.

I don't understand why they're not having more fun with it. If you're that shit, and you're driving a miat, your lap time will be in the toilet anyway. May as well intentionally do as many hektik skids as possible

>>14289574
fuck

>>14289548
it would be if the engine was more behind the axle

>>14287928
I love the collection of inexpensive chinese motorcycle helmets, often unbuckled.

>>14289597
i do it all the time when stopped. Most everyone does. Does it remind you of how daddy made you wiggle his shifter side to side when you were 12?

>>14293557
Holy shit, I was actually hoping these cunts would crash into a ditch so they could stop putting all the other drivers in danger with their driving.

>>14293027
>not obeying yellow flags
>trying to pass someone on the fucking karussel
>no understanding of how to properly come off the throttle
>passing on the wrong side

jesus christ

>>14293336
Nuh uh i'm better den dat

>>14291784
You should know the basics of driving before going high speeds on a track like this.

The guy can't even hold the steering wheel right.

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>>14289597

>>14291656
This reeks of inferiority complex, some camel jockey has really shitty self esteem and tries (and fails) to solve that by bragging about the cars his daddy bought for him

>>14293557
>eastern europe
never ever. not even once.

>>14289356

>supreme touge master

Like your ass is out there every night. I could smoke that POS in my bb1 'lude.

>>14289356
>my civic
stopped reading there

>>14287928
15 seconds.

>holding the wheel at 10 and 2

>>14289574
20 seconds. Holy fuck. The way this mongoloid turns the wheel. God damn.

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My lug studs...I fixed them now and it was easier than I tought. Yay for no more steering death wobble over at anything over 70 km/h

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apparently this is

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>>14298753
Not cringeworthy at all.

The primary goal of a rollcage is to protect the occupants of the vehicle in case it rolls over.

In this design, it is pretty clear that the side impact protection on the car is weaker on one side rather than the other, and since it is probably LHD, I would have the cross member going the other way for that, though it might be RHD and I just can't see, no telling. Regardless, side impact protection of a unibody car is pretty good to start off with, so the lack of support from the one leg getting pushed in is probably irrelevant.

Anyway, Having a truss structure like this with a single diagonal member instead of two is perfectly strong. This rollcage also looks nicely built, with REALLY nice tig welds done.