Thoughts on the 2016 BRZ?

wtf did they do to it

Looks good, spoiler aside, and resolves the issue of not enough power.

Remains to be seen, however.

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objectively worse than the 2016 miat

mite b cool

>>14214465
>>14214477
Oh they STI'd it, probably never going to be produced again.

>>14214465
Is it heavier?

Shit, they made it heavier didn't they?

>>14214465
so they are still continuing with these vehicular fedoras
eh whatever

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>>14214465
See this? Get rid of this. This kills the front end. At least on the standard variant it blends in with the grill.

>>14214498
its lighter

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>>14214465
>Under the hood, it showcases the engine Subaru deploys in Japan's Super GT racing circuit: a horizontally-opposed 2.0-liter, four-cylinder, double-overhead-camshaft, 16-valve turbocharged unit, generating 345 hp. Subaru says, though, that it has no plans for a turbo BRZ production model.
>no plans for a turbo BRZ production model.
>STI
Who makes these business decisions.

Concept looks neat though.

>>14214514
Toyota.

If There was a higher end STi version, I'd be all behind this car. Judging by the aftermarket, it seems like that flat 4 in there was designed to run with boost, probably why it's so pitiful naturally aspirated

>>14214465
fake and gay, the real 2016 BRZ is the exact same as the last 3 except for a new headunit and backup camera.

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>>14214514
>>14214512
>345hp
>lighter

Could this be the end of Toybaru memecar status? Watch out, minivans.

>>14214535
ur dads fake and gay

>>14214538
Read it again. They're not actually going to use that engine, or even a turbo at all.

>>14214514
there's a shitload of strategic shit going on with not having model X cannibalize sales for model Y

subaru (i believe) is so fucking tied to the wrx as their halo car they dont want ANYTHING competing with it AT ALL. which is silly because the whole point of the wrx is awd

Isn't the BRZ going to be dropped in favor of some other small thing that Subaru is working on with BMW while the FRS continues?

>>14214465
That's just their STI concept, OP. It's not in production.

>>14214514
Well at least there are 10000 mods available fpr this cars, you can build your own turbo 2.0 boxer engine, and throw in some more shit to make it better.

>>14214581
Subaru will never allow a factory turbocharged BRZ/FR-S. That's why Toyota is trying to expand their own in-house stable of sports cars

>>14214718
Exactly. All the in-fighting that has occurred around the GT86 has been because of Subaru. Thats why we never saw the roadster, or a factory forced-induction model

>>14214509
It's like they copy and pasted that bit from the GTR

>>14214746
moral of the story; fuck subaru, fuck them in the ass, their engines aren't even that good now.

i look forward to the bmw collaboration, bmw makes really good reliable inline 6 engines (but they always fuck up the cooling systems somehow)

>>14214730
Theres a 2017 midcycle refresh coming up...

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>>14214509
dunno anon still looks kinda dumb

>>14214860
Now it looks a little like an ND

>>14214822
The BMW partnership could legitimately produce some cool shit. in the meantime, we can all collectively flip Subaru the bird over being so god damn paranoid that someone, somewhere, might have bought a BRZ STi instead of a fucking Impreza

>>14214832
this is true, but the original plan WAS going to be for Toyota and Subaru to part ways on the GT86 in 2017 in favor of in house replacements, but neither side was able to get them ready in time

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>>14214480
Faster
More practical
Better equipped
more fun

Enjoy looking at the back of it when not giving head.

>>14214860
It looks better though.

>>14215288
>club
>32k

the fully loaded launch edition with all packages was 33k after destination fees.. a club can't be that much

>>14215288
stay mad

enjoy those shitty McPhersons
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-mazda-mx-5-vs-2015-subaru-brz-comparison/
>1:29.91 for the MX-5, 1:31.27 for the BRZ.

>>14215328
It isn't, a fully decked out 2016 Grand Touring with all dealer add options is 32,900

>>14215343
>stay mad
About what, not falling for the Miata Meme and ending up with a car that's somehow slower than a Toybaru?

>>14214465
sauce? this is just some bullshit concept

>>14215500
>slower
>1:29.91 for the MX-5, 1:31.27 for the BRZ.

>>14214525
If they gave it 8500 revs it would be a much better car, no need to boost it

>>14215288

If you want practical and sports car, you have to make sacrifices. Worse handling/relatively numb driving feel doesn't justify having backseats.

>>14215622
>they took out the little teeth at the sides

bullshit

>>14215622
you can see the top slot is still there on the grille, just covered by the vinyl in that pic

does this ft86 finally have factory forced induction after 4 years of waiting? Holy fuck...
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1092961_2017-scion-fr-s-spy-shots
>10hp increase
ohh

Holy fuck this car is lackluster

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also thought it would be cool if each company did their own take on producing a higher performance trim with Subaru obviously going the STI route and turboing it, and have Toyota do a TRD trim with a supercharger
>tfw it'll never happen

>>14215712
this.
modern jdm is so fucking boring
>no turbos
>no v8's
>no i6's
>nothing
Fucking NOTHING god its so boring

>>14215626
>Miata 3:20.8
>BRZ 3:18.6

Butthurt, the natural state of the Miata owner.

>>14215797
>car and driver uses amateur magazine editos
at least you tried

stance and rocket bunny kits, the natural state of the Toyobaru owner owner.

>>14215731
japanese customers don't care any more

>>14214525
>Toyota
Toyota wanted it turbo.
Brobaru said no because they would lose sti sales

>>14215809
Any excuse just because you backed the wrong car. Poor Miata owners in so much denial.

>>14214514
That's not really the front is it? Looks like they copied the side panels of the RX7 and wheel well bulges.

The front looks retarded.

>>14214465
LOL

>>14215809
this desu. shit car for "look at me!" enthusiasts

damn subaru is retarded

all they have to do is make a 270-300hp boosted brz and they'd get a shitload more sales

>>14214465
Ridiculous. Toyota accountants please cease and desist

I love how you fanboys will blame one manufacturer but not the other.

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>>14214514
So they stole a Mazda design and then made it look worse.

>>14216093
Subaru put a badge on it

>>14216109
joint venture. they both agreed to this shitfest

>>14216093
subaru has a 300 hp turbo version of the same engine tho

>>14216144
not a drop in and both sides agreed upon this spec.
pointing fingers doesn't work here. if toyota wanted a mini supra they could have said so or just made their own.

>>14214525
pretty sure if Toyota was calling the shots they would have their own engine in their car

kind of salty the 86 or FR-S doesn't have an i4

It dosent look like the companies involved were serious about this 86/BRZ/FRS venture. Marketing and the accountant departments saw the potential to sell this appliance to a target audience.

>>14216222
sadly it seems you're right

>>14214465
Why do Americans think the BRZ is a sports car?
Are American cars really that bad that a glorified skid rig is considered to handle well there or something?

>>14216228
Probably the same reason foreigners are.

>>14216222

They thought that if they could make something a little faster than a Miata and Civic Si, they'd own the 2-door segment

Unfortunately they were unaware of the existence of the entire world outside of Japan, which has GTIs and Mustangs and Camaros and Genesis and all manner of other 2-doors that shit all over the 86 for the same or less money.

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>>14215288
>transmition

>>14214509
>muh pedestrian

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>Subaru says, though, that it has no plans for a turbo BRZ production model.
>"It's a way of demonstrating the abilities of the STI business,"

>>14214514
>turbocharged
>no turbo
Am I missing something? Doesn't putting a turbocharger into an engine make it a turbo car?

>>14216544
Fuck I'm stupid. Re-read the post.

>>14214860
Now make it a Twingo and it'd be 10/10

>>14214465
Is it still just a 4cyl without even a turbo option?

>>14216330
This

>>14216188
This. The Toyobaru is fun to drive, but that fucking torque plummet is goddamned real. The only benefit of that shitty flat 4 is the weight distribution.

>>14217129
It's actually there for fuel economy/emissions. You can get rid of it with a tune, but kiss good mpgs goodbye.

>>14215288
>more fun
With that curb weight that's debatable

>>14214465

Nice AMG

>>14214465

>still using a shitburu engine

no thanks.

>>14217285

>still using internal combustion

no thanks.

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>>14217324
Jesus it's a 911 GT3

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>>14217324

>twingo headlights make everything better

So why didn't they put the sti bits on the limited edition BRZ for 2016?

>>14215622
Looks like a Scion tC-RS

Or some combination of the FRS and TC.

>>14214860
get rid of the bottom part as well

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>>14216077
Ahem. Why would they when this qt exists

>>14217706
It's 4wd

>>14216292
This.

>>14217706
The Toyobaru is already slightly pigfat, but that is worse.

>>14214465
Hahaha I love it, they've gone full fast & furious ricetastic. Factory underglow when?

It looks like they ripoffed the RX8. Anyone else notice this? It looks exactly the same except with added little ornaments that make it look retarded.