why did they kill it?

Judging by the styling, it was a mercy killing.

>>14141367
Old Nissan snuck out of it's cage and tried to make something good again, then Renault caught him and shoved it back in there. Made him watch as they drew up the new Maxima as punishment.

>>14141375
fuck off boomer

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>>14141367

>because we are going to take it's design as an inspiration for our performance crossovers

>>14141371
That plate kills me every time

>>14141378
To add insult to injury they debuted gripZ

>>14141367
Not willing to take the plunge the gt86 did. Not enough financial backing, too scared of a new mx5 or other car infringing on their sales. Too worried that while the young target market was interested said market has little no money and is smaller in size that other markets.

Basically Nissan are not wanting to make fun cars they want to make a large profit so are not going to take chances

>>14141367
excuse me for being a fag, but what the fuck is this suppose to be? a 350 z?

>hood mirrors

This car could of saved Nissan, but no they had to jump the shark.

>>14141419
It's the IDx concept

A would be competitor in the small, 4cyl, RWD segment

>>14141419
It was a concept car based on Nissans "youth outreach" group trying to design a car for the next generation of car enthusiast. Its built from a modified Nissan Silvia frame. 2l 4cyl turbo.

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>>14141419
>>14141430
Here's the Nismo IDx people are more familiar with

Their french overlords will never let them make anything that isn't a beige, FWD, 4 cylinder CVT-mobile

>>14141429
Sports cars are almost always loss leaders though.

>>14141390
why?

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>>14141430
>>14141431

I like the RWD idea...I would put a 6 cylinder turbo in it if I had a say, but they are probably trying to make it cheap.

It's ugly as fucking sin.

>>14141444
that looks kind of okay...but so fucking boxy

>>14141457
This is true.

The vast majority of Nissans profit comes from their economy shit boxes and lightweight SUVs with towing power.

Sports cars are almost never worth the resources to plan, design, and manufacture. Sure they pull in money when they sell, like the 350z, but you could have pulled in far more money with a new maxima.

One unique exception to this rule was 90's Mitsubishi, who obtained most of their profit from their enthusiast models like the eclipse and the evo.
Now that they stopped selling both of those and only sell the decade outdated lancer and some shitty overpriced cars, they should be pulling out of NA soon. Sad day.

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I just hope the S-FR will come out.

>tfw price to be 12-14k USD

http://jalopnik.com/the-toyota-s-fr-will-be-light-fun-and-cheaper-than-a-m-1736022132

>>14141476
You have shit taste.

>>14141487
That looks amazing. If I had money, I'd be all over that.

>>14141490
based upon what?

>>14141487
I was so pissed when the BRZ and FRS came out.

Both are inferor to the Type 86/S-FR and neither has options that make them comparable.

Do you want good headlights and suspension or do you want a decent interior and slightly more power?

I couldnt believe that slapping a TRD turbo in at the dealership during sale wasnt an option either.


Those cars were supposed to save the budget enthusiast market and they fell short. Still fun cars, but so much wasted potential.

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>>14141462
>Y
>多摩
Says it belongs to an American Military member here at Yokota, where I live, and is what my plate looks like.

That, and Jap plates don't have two-digit classification numbers anymore.

>>14141487
Unlikely to hit america.

It won sell any because its not
>an SUV
>a truck
>a V8

>>14141501
Is that your car?

>>14141510
Yes

>>14141513
Its very nice.

I could die happy if I was able to drive that thing every day.

>>14141507
I think it could do very well. Market it as a competitor to the S2000, because that's basically what it would be.

I thought it wasn't dead, what happened?

>>14141516
Thanks

Didn't the 86/BRZ sell shit everywhere except Japan and Australia? Because that would be why they canned this.

As much as this would be a great car from an enthusiasts perspective, it would be terrible from a business perspective. And Nissan is a business.

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>>14141507
You dont need to be those things to sell in America.

There is definitely a huge market for entry level sports cars, the problem is that we havent really gotten any cars that hit that market spot on. They always get neutered right before they hit the dealerships so that they can appeal to a broader market and surprise surprise when this makes them shit that nobody wants.

Bring in a 20k or less RWD two door coupe with a a small forced induction engine thats easy to work on in the garage, like a turbo v6.

This isnt rocket science.

>>14141507
Honestly if it was actually sub-15k USD, manual RWD and light I would be SERIOUSLY tempted to finance one and I'm a broke ass college student.

>>14141535
Catch it and mount that bitch over the fireplace

>>14141517
>jumping into a crowded market
Also its not an S2k competitor you dolt.

The S2k is not only more expensive but isn't even built anymore.

That's like saying the mx5 is a lotus Elise competitor.

The s600 would compete with low spec miata owners.

>>14141534
It sold ship everywhere elsebecause everywhere else got the shit version. Japan got the type 86 whichi is vastly superior to the BRZ and FRS. No one else got the Type 86. Everyone else got the BRZ/FRS which, while fun, were neutered versions of what was promised.

Of cours e aproduct wont sell if you fail to deliver what was promised.

>>14141536
>Bring in a 20k or less RWD two door coupe with a a small forced induction engine thats easy to work on in the garage, like a turbo v6.
>small forced induction engine thats easy to work on in the garage, like a turbo v6.
>small forced induction engine
>like a turbo v6.
>small
>v6

>>14141536
>in I'd had a turbo v6

You're dumb as dingo shit mate, you should go read more about the car before you go blathering on.

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>>14141548
>TFW size is determined soley by the number of cylinders
k

>>14141547
What kind of bullshit are you spouting?

My FRS is virtually identical to the GT86.

>in before toyota badges

>>14141548
>turbo rwd v6 coupe
>19K or lower

Lmao

>>14141548
Ford should jump in on this market by turning their 1L turbo 90 degrees in a small car and calling it the Maverick or Pinto.

>>14141545
I guess I'm not with the times when It comes to cars these days.....

My point was, America needs a good affordable roadster style vehicle

>>14141547
GT86 is literally the same car as the BRZ/FRS you dumbfuck.

>>14141547
What was the difference?

I've been driving an 86 for a couple weeks now and I honestly have no issues with it. Only thing that's changed is that it has decent tyres on it, and it's fun as hell. The lack of power is seriously not an issue, especially when you consider the fact that it's a street car.

>>14141536
>Sub 20k
>Turbo V6

WhaT the FUCK are you smoking

If it does exist it will most likely have a smallish revvy N/A i4. Entry level car means entry level engine.

Since we are on the subject why are turbo v6s non existent in the entry level market?

Manufacturing prices are cheaper than they ever have been before and a v6 is just two extra cylinders. Sure it has more moving parts which might make it more expensive to cover in the warranty period but I dont understand why you still have to pay boatloads of money for old technology, especially today.

>>14141367
Required its own platform (FM was too big/wide) Wouldn't have been profitable for Nissan or cheap enough for /o/tists.
Nissan realised it could make more money from millennials and soccer moms who don't care about rwd and actually buy new cars.

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>>14141378
And just so yous learn your lesson, you will make another Murano!

>>14141555
So what, are you going to have cylinders the size of fucking pencils to make the engine small? you're dumb as dog shit mate.

>>14141536

You are describing something that few people would want, you just think ypur desires are everyones.

>v6, heavy enough conefags wont buy it, theyll go for a miat
>tiny, anyone who want a status symbol will get a wrex or m3 or something with a back seat


Your idea is to make a car for trackfags and canyon carvers who dont race. you are correct it isnt rocket science. Its dumb.

Thats a tiny set of people with regards to the auto industry, and a poor one too

>>14141575
What is a 2.8 VR6?

>>14141567
It has a 600cc Honda derived 3 cylinder

Have you been living under a rock m8?

>>14141579
Not a fucking V6

>>14141560
That would be rad, I love that engine and I think Ford has enough euro development to make an actual good light sports car was has typically been solely the specialty of Japan/UK

>>14141579
Its a kei car you dumbfuck. Restricted to 600cc

>>14141583
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine

What are you smoking mate

>>14141430
"small"

>>14141582
I was referring to the SFR, not Honda's S600.

http://www.sfrforums.com/forums/showthread.php?10-Toyota-S-FR-tech-specs-revealed-(130-HP-2160-lbs)

>>1414148
>implying it won't be the low low price of 22k usd

>>14141596
Have you seen it in person? It's definitely small

Not kei small, but small

>>14141375
this, that shit was ugly

>>14141579
I'm pretty sure it's a front heavy golf.

>>14141367

It was just too fucking cool

>>14141399
They did almost declare bankruptcy in 2008. They'll probably keep going on the safe side until 2018.

>>14141367

because it doesn't support 6 airbags inside each pilar

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>>14141367
Because they decided what the brand needed instead was fro the next Z car to get rebooted as a sport crossover because that's what will get the millennial market, and no one is buying the Juke right now

>>14141682
Why cant they have 2 versions of this? Crossover and one that isnt a crossover?? I fucking hate this shit

>>14141934
I willt ry and find the article, but the chief design guy at Nissan basically said they only have room for/want 2 sports cars in the lineup. The GT-R will be one, and the Z will be the other, and then gave some vague, bullshitty line about howe they needed to evolve the Z to compete with a younger consumer market.

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>>14141948

>>14141682
The Juke is seling really well, guess why they keep bringing up fuckugly suvs...

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>>14142011
It had been, but it isn't really doing amazingly well now, hence why they want to basically reboot something like the Juke as the next Z car

>>14141934
>>14141957
>>14142011
Oh, and here was the quote from Nissan about this thing from the company's design chief, Shiro Nakamura:

“I don’t think the next one [Z car] is going to be the 390Z," the company's design chief, Shiro Nakamura, told the Australian media. "It’s not growing because it’s already big enough. You know, 350 started with 240, 300, 350 and then came 370. I don’t think we should go higher."

....We need to take another path," Nakamura continued. "I feel Z needs more revolution than evolution. I think GT-R has to stay the most high-performance symbol of Nissan technology and Z is a more affordable sports car or a sporty car to get the younger people."

So there you have it, Nissan thinks a Z crossover will be better than the IDx concept because millennials want a sporty crossover

>>14141375
>rightfully shita on retro
>>14141382
>gets called a boomer
>>14141487
>links jalopnik and gets multiple replies, none of which calling him out

You fucking faggots have truely lost it.

>>14142079
Asshurt boomer

>>14142076
>"I feel Z needs more revolution than evolution. I think GT-R has to stay the most high-performance symbol of Nissan technology and Z is a more affordable sports car or a sporty car to get the younger people
Nothing is said about crossovers, nothing implied about cross overs.

Why do people seriously think the next z is goign to be a crossover with literally zero evidence to base it off?

>>14142148
He's probably talking about the "revolution than evolution". Its possible

>>14142148
>>14142174

Because pretty much all the auto magazines are quoting inside sources at Nissan as stating the the Gripz concept as illustrating where they are going to take the Z

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/nissan-gripz-concept-preview-upcoming-z-car

"However, sources indicate that Nissan has settled on a more radical solution: making the next Z car a small sports crossover.

An SUV-influenced Z car is likely to infuriate purists, but Nissan believes it can still satisfy a large number of Z fans while also tapping into a huge new customer base, particularly in the US, where the badge has equity and the crossover market far outweighs the sector for small sports cars."

>>14142182
again, nothing at all. just basic ass speculation.

>sources indicate
literally worthless.

>>14142225
You're being super defensive for no reason

>>14142182

Fuck... Let's face the reality of it anyway. The z was just getting worse over the years anyway, just bite the bullet and let it die. You can always get an older one

Meanwhile Infiniti is launching a 3.0tt q50 for 2017 not all is dead but I take that with a grain of salt too

300zx resurrection inc.

>>14142225
>>14142233
>>14142240
The only reason Nissan would be so fucking evasive about the future of the Z is because is IS going to be a crossover, and they know that a segment of the fanbase is going to go ape shit crazy.

If it was going to continue in something close to it's current form, you would have seen a concept already, and Nissan wouldn't be continue to be so purposefully vague about what they are going to do

This is what every automaker does when they know a new model is likely to ruffle feathers. If anything, Nissan's attitude is more of a confirmation they are killing the Z in it's current form than any press release could be

>>14142276

"If we can sell the Juke we can sell the GripZ"

- Nissan

>>14142294
I was once helping an old lady walking around our lot when she saw a Juke, and she commented that it looked like a frog had sex with a gold cart, and now, I can't look at a Juke without thinking about that

>>14142370

I'm telling you it's a conspiracy. Nissan released that car solely to see how far people are willing to go when it comes to the crossover market

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>>14142076
>sporty crossover

>>14142276
I honestly wouldn't mind sports-oriented crossovers, as heretical as that sounds, but I really don't understand what they think they'll accomplish by branding such a crossover as a Z-car.

Now I don't have sales sheets or anything to go off of, but I think many millenials already associate the Z with models like the 350 and earlier 300ZX. The way they were showing the concept, it looked more like it was designed for people in their 40s and 50s, not younger buyers. They even mentioned the 240Z when describing the GripZ for cying out loud, a car which few millenials would have any familiarity with.

Its funny how when car marketers say 'we want the younger audience'' its almost doublespeak because who they end up really attracting is older buyers. Scion, Mazda, Chevrolet, Ford, and now Nissan. These companies have all said they want to market to younger people, but none of them really even care to actually look up from the sales sheets to see what it is people actually say they want. They seem to hardly even understand millenial culture, only their marketing team has any sip of an idea and even then its just shallow shit like top 40 tunes and TV fashion.

Carmakers really have lost touch with their buyers. Why else do you think smaller companies like Tesla are making more and more sales each year?

>>14141536
>>14141487
>poorfag delusions
Sorry, it's not coming to America. On the slight chance that it does, it's not going to be $14k. $20k maybe, after import and other bullshit, but certainly not $14k.

The MR2 wasn't $14k, this certainly won't be.

>>14141367
Because it looks like shit with any other paint scheme other than the concept 3-tone.

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>>14141419

It was Nissan's idea of releasing a small rwd affordable sports car.

Alot of people reckon it was a Datsun 1600 remake. PIC related

>>14142767
What's funny is Nissan already make a sporty crossover with the Nismo Juke. And even THEN, you can get it with AWD and the CVT or FWD and a stick shift but the one configuration people actually want, AWD with stick, they won't make.

And as far as losing touch, I completely agree. "Getting a younger audience" is something of a car marketing trope these days. It's as if they didn't even run a focus group, the ad guys just got together in a room and said "Well young kids these days like the computers and the hippity hop, well use words like 'urban explorer' and let them change the color of the LCD in the stereo, they will love it!"

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>>14141487
Sad-FrogRee

>>14142137
Is calling someone a "boomer" supposed to hurt their feelings?

>>14142946

Also millennials have no money, why are they making cars geared towards 20 year olds working minimum wage jobs?

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Anyone else wish they would do a modernized S30? Pic related.

>>14141682
This looks dope as fuck

>>14142985
Because "Muh crazy credit approval processes works!!"

The same "finance company first, carmaker second" attitude that hit the Big 3 has infected the Japanese carmakers these days.

>>14143036

I remember when my fiance got her Fit and they said she'd pay the "Honda financing" department directly instead of a bank.

I went full what, but it makes sense now I guess

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>>14143058
Every major auto maker has their own internal bank

Chrysler Capital
Honda Credit
Infinit/Nissian Auto Credit
VW Credit
FoMoCo Financing

The companies always want to keep the loans in-house if they can

>>14143036
Which makes me wonder if the Japanese car industry will crash in a similar fashion to the American industry 7 years ago.

I sort of doubt it, but the attitude of the big makers in Japan is eerily reminiscent of the likes of Ford and GM back in the late 90s-mid 00s.

>>14143098
during the 08 crash? Japs still make pretty well-build cars though.
Pre recession American cars were a fucking joke

>>14143098
>>14143116
Quality, and in the case of Honda/Toyota, high resale value, is what keeps the Jap carmakers propped up

Still, the finance first, cars second attitude has been getting worse, and it will come back to bite them in the ass one way or another

>>14141390
Y plates are for Jdm cars owned by us military and other us government workers in Japan.

>>14143136
Yea, I've noticed the onslaught of finance marketing popping up more the last 5 years or so

also, post some stories pls

>>14143168
The 'get anyone and everyone financed' attitude is sadly one of the main things propping up the car industry right now.

And sadly, the holidays have been kinda slow, not too many new stories to share

>>14141367
I kind of like it. Its reminiscent of datsun 510's and such. It is too pigfat looking tho. Those headlights are pure sex. They obviously wanted that retro look with the 2 tone beige color, chrome, and fender mirrors. It just seems like a good idea executed poorly.

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>>14142076
Nakamura should've commit sudoku after he finished styling the GT-R. One of my buddies did a research paper on him, he's stated that despite doing the GT-R, the Juke is his favorite design, and he pushed for it to go into production. The writing was on the wall.

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>>14141548
Here, have a Mazda KJ-ZEM. 2.3L supercharged Miller cycle dual cam V6, 217 bhp. Pretty good for an eco engine in 1995.

>>14141487
NOT ENOUGH POWER
SHOULDA COME WITH A TURBO
TOO SLOW
COULD BUY A USED MUSTANG INSTEAD
GETS SMOKED BY V6 CAMRYS

>>14141367

if the final version was more normal looking i woulda bought one

>>14143711

then put a turbo on it faggot

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>>14143711
idk senpai, 12.5k new is a pretty good deal for non pigfat and non redneck owned.

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>>14143726
Don't worry. Salvation is coming

>>14142599
yeah that's were i stop reading

>>14143010
that not modern at all
this shit have a cx of like 0.5

>>14143739
Still has lolnopower.

>>14143739
But LPG, how much will it cost? 12.5k for an S-FR is a bretty good deal.

>>14141367
Becuase Nissan are soccermom cucks.

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>>14143739
>fiat

JUST

>>14141517
Because the S2K was so successful here, right?

>>14143763
>volvo dead middle
>tfw volvo

I thought they were supposed to be stronk?

>>14143755
the abarth version will solve the lolnopower problem

>>14143757
Cost is an issue, but it's a FIAT so it will depreciate like a boat anchor once they get into the used market

>>14143763
except the platform is the ND Miata, and it will be built by the Japanese in the same factory as the ND Miata, and the drivetrain being donate by FIAT is remarkably one of the only decent things they make

>>14143778
Volvo has changed hands about a million times, things have changed.

>>14141560
A modern Pinto would be something that would actually get me into a dealership and signing loan paperwork for the first time in my life.

>>14143763
>audi
>reliable
>nissan below BMW

Hah

>>14143786
>Cost is an issue, but it's a FIAT so it will depreciate like a boat anchor once they get into the used market

This maybe true a year or two out but they'll still end up like NA or NB's and start going back up once boyracers start snatching them up.

My question is how much of it will actually be Fiat bullshit and how much will it be more reliable Mazda parts? I'd hate to buy one and interior shit stop working becuase they used FIAT based shit.

>>14143791
i hope mine holds up. i could have spent less and got a toyota or some shit

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honestly senpai/o/ly i have enough time and money to just build something like pic related and say fuck it because auto makers are not putting out anything worth buying at the price.

>>14141579
A quirkmobile engine with inherent imbalance and crazy vibrations at high RPM, that doesn't actually save weight and is a lousy way to cram displacement into a small engine compartment.
VR6 engine weight: 373 lbs
3.0 Duratec weight (typical example of DOHC 60º v6; other mfg's similar): 365 lbs

The VR6 was never worth the effort to design it They should have just made a large-displacement version of one of their inline-5 designs, instead.

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>>14143817
I actually went down to the local Fiat dealership and talk to them for about an hour about this car. From what I was told/what they are telling customers, Fiat provides the engine, tranny, and bodyshell. The interior is pretty much carried over directly from the ND with the exception of the Fiat badges. Hell if you look at the interior shots side by side, they are virtually identical.

And as far as the depreciation, yes, they will eventually start to go back up, but the sweet spot will be buying them 2-3 years after they hit the market, when Fiat depreciation has been maxed out, and before rice tax sets in

>>14141367
What was it?

>>14141501
can you speak nip

>>14142985
Because focusing on old people who already have money is what killed American carmakers in the 70's & 80's.

Toyota and Honda proved in the 80's that if you hook someone early in life with a cheap entry-level car they like, they'll stick with the brand for life and buy progressively higher-end cars from you as they get older and wealthier.

Unfortunately, this means you have to actually know what the youngun's will actually like in their first car, and every major carmaker is totally lost in that respect right now.

>>14143773
The Nissan had a chance to capture a larger audience, being that it has a fixed roof vs. the convertible aspect of the S. Not everyone wants a vert.

No, don't try to come back with Honda providing the hardtop as an extra.

>>14143808
Nissan is extremely unreliable, especially the models with stupid fucking CVTs in them.

>>14141480
but they make a ton on parts

I found I could practically rebuild my entire Talon's unibody because they still sell stamped pieces to use for repairs

I hate to say it but if you can find a DSM that isn't rotted out, you can find 4g63 longblocks for like $150 and even the choice AWD trans are only like 300

Crankwalk aside, if you know a machine shop that can help you out, the DSMs are balling on a budget tuner monsters

>>14143880
Idx

>>14141367
>"but millennials want crossovers!"
>"normal looking two seaters are lame now!"
>"CVTs are the future!"

I literally don't know a single person my age that likes or wants a crossover just like our parents drive.

>>14144182
Yeah CVTs a shit, I only read that it was for 2015 models after I posted.

RIP old nissan

>>14141367
because it looks like an ikea furniture.

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>>14141682
Fucking nasty

>>14144308
granted, it is what pretty much every college aged girl in america is driving right now

>>14143149
See
>>14141501

>>14143899
not at all save for a few common courtesy words

>>14144536
Why
Why are people so fucking stupid
>I'm 18
>I want a big gas guzzler with a ton of space I don't need to raise the family I don't have
I mean I can understand hand me down or borrowing parents car
But fuck, buying a new one for yourself? How fucking dreary can someone's life be

I don't fall for this Bulls hit anyway, I don't see a reason why dad can't have his two door sports coupe/hatch and mom can have an economic sedan
Hell, a sports coupe as an only family car isn't even that bad. I have no idea why people think they need to sell their nice car they enjoy for a big fat ugly boring half suv half stupid bullshitmobile.

>>14144579
They want safety because they know they can't drive for shit.

>>14141682
I saw a Juke today

>>14144579
Well lets be real, most of those 18 year olds are driving something their parents bought them, so it's more a case of mom and dad what little princess in a crossover because MUH SAFETY

>>14141682
>>14141934
Can't you just lower the new Z at a shop?
Quick someone photoshop a lowered Z.

Is the car good on paper at least? Maybe if you lower it you'll get all the potential

>>14144610
>Is the car good on paper at least?
You tell me:

"Autocar reports, citing an insider source, that the crossover will make use of Renault-Nissan's CMF B platform, and that it's expected to use the 1.6-liter turbo engine in the Renault Clio RS 220 Trophy, which in the French hatch produces 220 hp and 191 pounds-feet of torque.

That means the 3.7-liter V-6 engine (or any V6 for that matter) will be out, getting the new Z car down a few branches on the price tree, which the 370Z had been climbing as it gained power and luxury materials.

The Z crossover, when it debuts, is expected to be around the same size as the Nissan Juke, and will likely borrow the six-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission from the Renault Clio RS 220 Trophy, this time pairing it with all-wheel drive."

>>14144608
Are there seriously people that aimless ? When I was a kid I kicked and screamed for a manual sports coupe from the 90s as my first car, instead of my parents and going to a dealership and leasing me a new automatic econoshitbox (no offense)

God damn, the arguments I had to go through to convince them that manual transmission is great and won't shut off and make me careen into the opposing lane

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>>14142076
>millennials want a sporty crossover
I'm a millennial and I'd take the damn bus if it means I don't have to drive a fucking crossover

jesus fucking christ how horrifying

>>14144626
>same size as juke
Well that kinda throws my "performance car forced to walk on stilts" theory out of the window.

How can car companies be so stupid to think people want this
Are they just ignoring how well the ND and gt86 cousins are doing ? Who the fuck is their competition

>>14144632
A friend of mine who is in my masters program just helped his girlfriend buy a car over christmas, and they went and bought a fwd, cloth Rav4, for no other reason than 'it has a lot of space' And this is a girl who never carries more than a fucking back pack in her car

>>14144644
>>14144646
goes back to what we talked about earlier in this thread, car companies have no fucking idea what anyone under the age of 35 wants to buy

>>14144671
So as opposed to analyzing past metrics , or the fact that old 80s-90s sports cars intended for youth are still very popular, even marginally sporty things like the 4th-6th gen civics, the integras , etc. . They decided to give teens a slightly sportier looking version of what their mom drives?

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>>14144610
Here's the shoop from the thread about the GripZ when it was first announced.

>>14144714
>hey these kids like sporty stuff right?
>take what their parents drive, make it smaller, put a buzzy exhaust on it, they will love it!

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>>14144671
God this pisses me off so much. Between Nissan and "muh sporty crossover" and getting rid of the IDx, now Scion with their C-HR.

Scion has been failing at the young demographic for ages. Most people who buy their cars are old people (sans the FR-S).

>>14144733
Fuck, if only. That does look like a modern version of the old S30.

>>14144758
Hell even Honda is dropping the HR-V, with no serious plans on the horizon to bring back an S2000 replacement

>>14144798

>dropping HR-V

Uh, what?

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These cars are brought to the states and you suddenly have enough money to spend on these only these cars, what do you get?
>Mazda MX-5 Miata
>Honda S660 (with 130hp proposed export motor)
>Toyota SFR
>Nissan IDx

>>14144939
as in it came out this year? What I meant was, they are bringing ANOTHER crossover into their lineup without any plans of bringing back an economical sports car

>>14145069
*only these
oops

>>14145069
>>14145076
which miata?

And IDx never had confirmed specs

>>14145086
ND, Sport trim
Wiki says the IDx would have came in a 1.2L, 1.5L, and 1.6 for the NISMO model but where they got this is unknown(Except for the NISMO?) so just assume.

>>14145069
IDx, no contest.

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>>14145069
the japanese miata has a smaller engine

but I chose the god machine

>>14145069
S660
But that is because I've been longing for a replacement for my Del Sol.

If they can channel some of that early 90s, high revving magic again.

>>14141513
sikk car m8

>>14141507
Have you actually been on any roads in any significantly populated cities in America?

>>14141487
Looks like a Miata but 3 times gayer.

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>>14142978
Yes...

>>14145069
Young jeremy clarkson?

>>14141682
what the fuck are those treads

>>141488>>14141682
I figured they would make this into a next generation juke

>>14142942
I have a 510, I fucking love it.if you wanted the idx to happen, just go buy a 510, trust me

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>>14142076
Why would they go even higher if the number is meant to signify the engine displacement? This means nothing. He doesn't mention anything about crossovers, he says "sports car or a sporty car" which could mean anything.

>>14144758
I would buy this if the production looked anything like the concept. But after the iM I doubt itll come out that way.

>>14141367
Please dont let this success the silvia
PlleeeaaaaAAAAAASSSSEEEEEEEE

>>14149094
It's already been cancelled, anon.

>>14149100
Thank gord

>>14141487
already confirmed for not coming to the states

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>>14143711
this pretty much desu

>>14143094
>Infinit/Nissian Auto Credit
How did that "i" move 5 places to the right?

>>14144671
>car companies have no fucking idea what anyone under the age of 35 wants to buy
Well, the people buying cars don't either, so no surprise this is how it works.