Go on Reddit frontpage and see people defending salted roads,

>>14126521
To be fair /r/cars and /r/autos hate salt as much as we do. Normies don't understand how little work is involved in wheel changes.

>>14126521
>says the guy with a reddit account

>>14126521
Tire changes take at most 45 mins the first time if you don't know what your doing. After that it only gets easier

>>14126521
Holy shit those tards have no foresight.

>wanna minor inconvenience for myself must mean its the inferior choice as a whole

>>14126530
As usual, people ignoring the reasonable post.

>posting on /r/AdviceAnimals
>even looking at /r/all

max pleb

>>14126521
Is sand just as bad?

>>14126825
No, the ridiculous part of that whole thing is the dummies who think making a law to force people to buy and use snow tires will mean no salt or nitrogen has to be used on the roads.

>>14126842
To be fair there are some countries who are "smarter" about their cars who fine you if you don't have snow tires in winter conditions. It's not unreasonable to suggest such a law. But really, >>14126530 has it right.

>>14126836
no. american "salt" is calcium something or other. doesn't like metal

>>14126867
>American salt is a totally different chemical compound
>"Excuse me, waiter...this is American salt. May I have some Belgium salt please?"
lol

lol

>>14126879
lol
omg
lol

>>14126867
It's rock salt, if they used calcium youd know it. Calcium will melt ice when it's way below freezing

>>14126879
It's just a term we've used since we used to use actual salt or some shit like that.

>>14126903
most of america doesn't use rock salt

>>14126903
>if they used calcium youd know it
>youd
Yeah, it's a calcium/salt spray. Before it snows they even pretreat with this sticky syrup like shit, then the green calcium/salt brine.

>>14126521
>someone makes a sensible post
>gets down boated

>>14127093
Sensible my ass. "No longer have to keep the roads cleared if we all just used snow tires".
LMAO

>>14127100
Where did he say that? He said it cuts down on road salt usage

>>14127103
Which helps keep the roads cleared.

>>14127104
Plowing the fucking road helps keep it clear

>>14127108
And so does salting the roads after you plow. It keeps the cars out of the ditches and sides of the roads and sliding uphills and traffic jams.
And here's the funniest part, they ain't saving a goddamn thing in the environment. Otherwise the other 48 states would be destroyed by now.
Yes 49.

>>14127113
>It keeps the cars out of the ditches and sides of the roads and sliding uphills and traffic jams.
You know what also does that? Winter tires.

>>14127117
Bullshit. You clearly don't drive on slippery roads.

>salt ruins the environment
citation?

>>14127123
Maybe you just suck at driving

>>14127125
No. You just have never driven on slippery winter roads. It's nothing like the rain.

>>14127127
What ever helps you sleep at night

Enjoy your rusted out shitbox you cuck

>>14127124
Try California's EPA I guess. But they probably just make the assertion with no evidence

>>14127129
>Enjoy your rusted out shitbox you cuck
Thanks for confirming you don't drive on winter roads, fagguette.

>>14126521
use studded tires you american plebs

>>14127134
Confirmed for being a shit driver

>>14127146
Says the guy who has never driven on ice or slippery winter roads.
I can do this for like 10 more minutes. Fag.

>>14127155
That's what your gf said too

>>14127155
I've driven across northern Ontario where the salt trucks don't bother half the time during some intense blizzards, worst case scenario you need studded tires

But people survive without salt all the time, you just suck ass

>tfw ausfag
>winters are 25c

fuck your snow and fuck your salt

Holy fucking shitposting
Get your shit together /o/

>>14127155
I've driven in -40F with fresh powder and ice everywhere, on fucking mud tires, and didn't have a single problem.

You and other people like you just can't drive.

>>14127252
>>14127176
Snow tires won't do a damn thing on ice. Internet drivers. lol

>>14127336
Get studded tires, or don't drive. Winter tires do help with ice traction. They're far better than the shit all seasons people think they can get away with.

>>14126860
No, its entirely unreasonable to enforce laws like that. I'll be you live in Europe or somewhere with no freedoms. Imagine that you are driving along in August with your summer tires, and suddenly a massive thunderstorm rolls in and starts pouring rain.

Looks like now you're liable to be ticked for not having a proper set of winter tires on the car, even though it is no winter.

You're fucking stupid bruh, you support overbearing government control and will probably be the first to complain once you get a ticket.

>>14127396
>Looks like now you're liable to be ticked for not having a proper set of winter tires on the car, even though it is no winter.
How did you figure that? Did your brain short circuit while typing that?

>>14127400
First sentence implies inclement weather.
Second sentence states that summer tires are on during inclement weather

>>14127403
How do you connect rain in the summer with winter? Are you retarded?

Why am I asking, of course you are.

>>14127405
Well i guess it has never rained in spring or summer, amazing

>>14127407
Are you even alive? Have you ever seen outside?

>>14127390
>Winter tires do help with ice traction
They do nothing for ice. They are made for snow.

>>14127480
OK, but you're wrong.

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>>14126521
>going to reddit

>>14126879
Top jej

>>14127480
You don't know a damn thing about the operating principals of snow tires and you've never used them before have you? People like you are the ones that slide into ditches because you think bald all seasons are fine since they salt the roads anyway.

>>14127124
salt changes the salinity of the soil around roads (hurr). too salty and it'll fuck with vegetation.

Never really seen it though but I don't really stop and check while driving.

It's be a non issue if you basement dwellers cared enough to spray your car's undercarriage after taking it out.

Salting roads is an absolute necessity anyways.

Fuck off Californian faggots

>>14128506
It'd be a non-issue if they didn't salt the roads.
>>14128510
No, it's not a necessity.

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>>14127390
Studded tires or dont drive? I pay highwaytax, fuel tax, state and federal i am entitled along with everyone else to safe roads to drive on.Your the kind of hotshot who jumps in the freeway for his 10 minute commute and thinks he is the shit For passing everyone. It's not feasible to have studded tires on a tractor trailer. And if you need chains you better just park and wait it out. I got 650 miles to travel every day. I'm going to go in and out of ice multiple times a day. I'll be in Minnesota in a blizzard today and in Georgia 2 days later with 70° weather. Where do I carry these studded tires? After I get out of the icey conditions do I have to stop at a truck stop and pay 1,000+ labor to change all 18 tires back to regular?

>>14128510
As a fuckin Canadian that deals with winter half of the fucking year. Get fucked. Salt is not a necessity, its a horrible shortcut. That calcium brine they are starting to use is even worse. That shit gets everywhere and is a sum bitch to get off. I've oil sprayed my ride every fall and shits still rusting. If we used sand instead of salt, life would be so much better. Salt is only effective down to about -25C then it just becomes useless.

>>14128544
>I pay highwaytax, fuel tax, state and federal i am entitled along with everyone else to safe roads to drive on.
This is like saying you should be allowed to drive with slicks on the street.

Winter tires are mandatory here since 1st december, yet they still salt the roads where I live.

>>14128551
I use for dot certified tires like every road vehicle should u fuckin tard thanks for being literally autistic

>>14126836
No, while sand is messy as shit salt fucks up infrastructure and metals, gets in to ground water and taints in permanently, and animals die drinking the water runoff filled with salt

I heard they don`t salt certain roads in Finland to keep people from speeding.

>>14128544
>After I get out of the icey conditions do I have to stop at a truck stop and pay 1,000+ labor to change all 18 tires back to regular?

Maybe the gubbmint will do it for you?

>>14127396
No, I'm in minnesota. I fear the retards running around on summer tires.
>thunderstorm
>same as snow on the roads
What

>>14127396

Summer tires and rain?

Are your summer tires Track Slicks?

>>14128563
Iowa needs to import some fucking red rock from the west, Des Moines and the surrounding areas put a ridiculous amount of salt down and half the time it's tires that melt the ice, not the fucking salt.

>>14128558
Good job missing the point of the analogy, you fucking moron.

>>14127396
Summer tires are better in rain than "all-weather" tires.

>>14128644
But the soccer moms that live here need the salt.

>>14126867
>>14126903
>>14126867
Road salt is CaCl. Table salt is NaCl.

It's like you retards never graduated middle school

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Did I smell someone arguing about winter tires?

>>14129072
they still are in middle school, what do you expect...

temps below 5 or 6°C require winter tyres. summers just don't heat up in that temp range. they sure as hell can't deal with snow.

Do people who run snow tires actually physically change them out?
like remount them on the same wheel as their regular tires?
are people this fucking retarded?

HURR DUUUR NEW CAR HAS 19" LOW PROFILE TIRES, GUESS ITS TIME TO SPEND $1,200 ON LOW PROFILE SNOW TIRES

instead of buying a manageable smaller 16" wheel, and fitting proper big sidewall winter tires that cost $75 a piece.

>>14129607
>Set of cheap steelies with snow tires
>Floorjack
>Torque wrench

Done.

>>14129629

Normies cannot into practicality

>>14129647

Some of us aren't poorfags and have storage space.