I live in Calgary. Bridgestone Blizzaks are 180 bucks a piece

What car?

>>14114626
2010 Mazda 3

I drove through 12 inches on my ws80s last winter, they'll bd fine

Get nokians. Well worth extra. All they do is make winter tires. So they are better. Look up reviews you nerd.

Hi from Canada to

winter tires are a scam

>>14114612
I just used blizzaks in my rwd "sports car" last winter and it was fine. This winter is also not that bad in terms of snow so those bilzzaks should be fine.

>>14114659
You obviously don't live where there is actual snow.

My car wouldnt even move with half an inch of snow on the ground with all seasons.

With proper winters, now it's driveable in 12 inches of snow

>>14114693
>My car wouldnt even move with half an inch of snow on the ground with all seasons.
then learn to drive because my fiesta does fine in 6 inches of snow with all seasons

>>14114734

I could drive around fine on slicks if I were the only person on the road. Winter tires come in handy when somebody decides to squeeze in front of you and brake for no reason when the highway/road is shear ice. All seasons are good for almost anything except stopping suddenly which is kinda important...

Decent all seasons are sufficient in any large car or any SUV/Truck or anythig with some weight to it. On a light (sub 3000lb) FWD shitbox winter tires are going to make a massive difference and should be almost mandatory, coming from somebody who drives on shitty all seasons all year round.

>>14114768
Your two paragraphs contradict each other pretty hard

>>14114775

Do as I say, Not as I do.

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>>14114649
They also make summer tires, van tires, semi tires, agricultural tires and offroad tires, including tires for Arctic Trucks

>>14114734
Its not a matter of getting going and "getting around", its a matter of maximising the traction you have available. Its not hard going through a few inches of light/medium snow with tarmac/gravel beneath at a low speed. With proper winter tires your performance improves in all categories, with the biggest difference being able to provide grip on ice, something no all-season I've ever seen or read about is able to do.


OP, I'm guessing you are think about Hakkapeliitta R2's. They're the best studless on ice and snow, but worst on tarmac. WS80 is weaker on ice, very good on snow and good on tarmac

>>14114734
It's a rwd BMW with an open diff.

Bit different than your underpowered FWD fiesta

>>14114734
Look yee fegget. I too had a problem like op. I had brand new falken all seasons on my car and when there was a fresh snowfall they'd be useless in the snow/ice. It would take forever to build up speed and momentum and you'd pray that nobody would slow down or stop in front of you or you'd be fucked. Inclines were a nightmare if you couldn't make it up them with a line of cars behind you. Intersections were scary.

I said fuck it and bought some blizzaks. They transformed the car. I could then drive through whatever I wanted or up whatever hill that was impossible to get up before. I no longer had to worry.

See there's American all season tires where they test them in pussy winter conditions. Not Canadian winter conditions. So they're not really all season tires. Op there are new all weather tires made for Canada. They might be a cheaper option.

Driving in Canadian winters can be a life or death situation if things go wrong for you or you get stuck in a storm with big drifts. Having winter tires might save your life and those you're with. So do it. Nokians are always rated the best - winter tires is all they do. Look at any review.

>>14114801
Dunlop Wintermaxx
Firestone winterforce
General Altimax Arctic

Which one is best f.am

>>14114632
Blizzaks will be fine, i use them on my cobalt and live in south Ontario

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>>14114873

Altimax is a good all-around winter tire. Not the leader at anything, but sufficient in all aspects

Winterhawks perform well in snow, especially wet and heavy. Weak performance on ice, and I've read that around -20c they start going a bit hard

Wintermaxx is an aged design, and a mediocre tire. You'll get around, but its performance is "meh". I've never found a winter tire with a passive design pattern whose performance is, to me, sufficient

if your area gets icy conditions and allows it,get studded tires, nothing beats the mechanical grip of metal on ice.

>>14115299

You'd be surprised just how capable the last generation nordic-friction studless tires are on ice, tires like the Goodyear UltraGrip Ice 2 and Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2

>>14114612
Get the cheap ones, not like this winter is anything to write home about.
>Ex-Yellowknife stuck in Deadmonton here, what the fuck is with this province and not being able to handle a pissy little dusting of snow
I learned to drive in a shitbox Lada Niva in -45 in a place where we get a proper, non-embarassing, legit winter. You cunts have it easy, and you just blunderfuck your way into the ditch every time we get more than 3cm.

>>14115340
Why on earth would he get cheap ones because just this winter is shit? What about the next one, and the one after that

And hey, you and me both know that the Niva is damned capable once it actually starts and doesnt shit itself

>>14115352
I miss my Niva, parts were a pain, though.
I say the cheap set because I run them just fine on my shitbox. I have PLENTY of stopping and going power. There hasn't been a winter that can really challenge your winter tires in almost ten years here. I find the best thing you can practice is to go out somewhere like an abandoned lot and practice flinging the car around. Find the winter limit and learn it. And practice driving extra defensively because of all the shitskins, seniors, and other shit drivers in this province.

>>14114612
>Nokians
>250 bucks a piece

my nigga what in the fuck, Toyo R888's are cheaper than that.

>>14115340
You are aware that winter occupies about ~4 months of every year, right?

>>14115374
We used one to transport sheep, tools, equipment and whatnot around my buddys farm when we were 12-17. Solid little thing, but it was more a tractor than a car

And sure, you've really got to scrape the bottom of the barrell before you find a set of winter tires that'll leave you dead or stranded during normal conditions... still, you cannot deny that the difference between tires like the Nankang SW-7 and Nokian Hakkapeliitta 8 is fucking IMMENSE

>>14115396
Quality costs

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>>14115411

Here it (usually) starts snowing by mid-October and freezing by the end of October, and the roads dont get clear again until the first week of May, with occascional snowfalls until mid-June

>>14115424
You have more winter months than summer months... damn. Do you guys just like not get fall?

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>>14115425

Quite short, early September to mid October... usually rainy as fuck

Average fall morning - misty, 3-4 degrees celcius, windy

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>>14115447
Those are the shittiest fall days ever. I like this

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>>14115458
They're not all horrible

>>14114649
>All they do is make winter tires.
nope

>>14115320
I haven't tried the new gen of studless but I stick by my previous comment. from experience studless work until the temperatures drop below freezing but they cant maintain a decent traction coefficient in sub zero temps. tying sponges to your feet doesn't help you on sheet ice.

>>14115552

The Hakkapeliittas on my dads Mitsubishi perform just as well in -1 as -30

Gotta remember that they are made from the same rubber as their studded brothers

Give them a try, they work damned well. Still, if you live in a place like we do where the roads are nothing but continous ice and snow for half the year their benefits aren't that much of an importance

>>14114734
You're also the dickbag that drives 50 under the speed limit and backs up traffic on snowy highways because you don't want to get proper tires for your shitbox.

>>14115340
I've never met anyone from Yellowknife, irl or online. Care to tell me in short how's that place in terms of prices, rents and jobs? Not that I'd move there, just curious.

>>14115340
Have you been to Sunshine Village?
Thinking of coming up to ski this winter

>>14117346

I have (calgaryfag), shits pretty epic. Maine has some pretty depressing ski "hills". Expect your eyes and body to be turned into shit.

>>14117389
Yeah Sunday River is my home, good chain of mountains but only 4thousanders (feet). Steepest lift services run in East at least.
Usually hike Tuckermans Ravine (technically a cirque) in New Hampshire for the good steep stuff.

Really want to ski Delerium Dive, just need to buy a transponder.

Can you snowmobile in Banff?

>>14117389

Cuckmonton fag here. Just get ws80s. I am running those just fine

>>14114612
>falling for the snow tire scam

shiggy diggy doo

>>14117425

The highest lift at sunshine is almost 9000 feet which is dece I guess.

I'm not too too sure on snowmobiling, I really highly doubt it's allowed in most of the Banff because it's a Provincial park. I know the areas around Banff PP have copious amounts of snowmobile trails, you have to go to revelstoke BC area if you want the chutes.

>>14114693

sounds like you're just a bad driver.

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yes as a tire installer in a crappy tire in ontario I saw everything
blizzaks good performance, a bit loud
Michelin xi3 okay good like expectancy
perelli good traction not worth the price as they don't last as long compared to others
hankook okay bUT have lateral runout issues isualky
nokians crack after 5 years
alitmax not very good traction

this is my personal opinion from seeing tires everyday for 2 years
ps. buy dealer rims and make sure to buy hubcentric so your not worrying about hub spacers
separate nuts to match the taper of the steel rims
aircraft anti-seize the silver stuff or brake grease to prevent seizing

Canadian tire rims are shit never ever buy them. period. if you don't believe me, ask to watch the tire and rim being balanced and you can see the wobble side to side

>>14117846
Jesus christ, learn some proper english

$250 for Hakkapeliitta? That's too much.

>>14117885
I'll take lazy, point form, and on a phone for 0.1 bait points Alex

>>14117885
He's changed so many runflats his fingers don't work anymore

>>14117846
Don't put anti seize on lug nuts who the fuck taught you that

>>14118021
around the wheel hub assembly , I'm not fucking 16

>>14117846

If you think balancing matters on wheels that are going to be full of snow and ice matters, I've got news for you. As long as they don't have a ton of vertical movement I'd wager your average idiot is fine with 1.50 ounces out of balance so long as they're driving through snow. It really doesn't make a difference.

michelin super sports in the summer

bridgestone blizzaks in the winter

B-)

>>14117846
>nokians crack after 5 years
Who the fuck gets 5 years out of a winter tire?

I'm happy when I get 3, and mine don't go on until first snow and come off first 40°F day in the spring...

>>14114612
What size are you buying? My Nokians were $15/corner more expensive than the Bridgestones in the same size.

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>>14114612
>calgary
you're never a wet snow its always like -20 there and at that point traction is fine anyways, get the blizzaks

>>14114612
Buy good tires or dont drive in the snow. Simple.

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>>14114612
I use Hakkapeliitta 8s with my RAV4 and I was able to do a 7-hour drive from FSJ to Edmonton fairly safe. Drove from 3pm to 10pm, doing 110-125km/h on AB43 and that's when I started to appreciate the beauty of studded winter tires.

>>14118822
235/55R17

>>14118387
i'm aware ice can freeze to the rim but if your on a plowed road or highway it is annoying, the tires and rims my dad got from crappy tire were of my 1 ounce from the factory and the whole vehicle vibrated doing 80 km/h

PRO TIP: hubcentric rings only help you mount the wheel square on the hub. The wheel is held by the friction of the hub to the wheel mounting flange. If your car was supported by the studs they would shear off if you hit a large bump or hammered the throttle from a stop
>they make plastic hubcentric rings

>>14119592
Odd, my 215/45/17s were like 180.

Have you shopped around at all?

>>14119959

Tires prices change as the popularity of that size changes, totally irrelevant if its bigger or smaller.

>>14114659

sorry but this is not true

>>14114659
Tow company shill plz go