135i?

>>14082220
>20k
>TWENTY THOUSAND
>On a Mini Chadmobile

Fucking gross.

A fool and their money shall soon part ways.

>turbocharged
>German
No, you should not.

every time i see a 135 it's already being driven by someone who thinks they can drive lie an asshole because they have a bmw.

>>14082220
Haven't driven the 1 series yet.
But I drive a 330i and have driven various other BMW from friends and as rentals. They all have the ability to give you confidence in its handling. You quickly know what you can and can not do with them.
Just make sure you go for a bigger engine as the everything below the 2.5 isn't fun especially on the motorway.

>>14082220
Do it, anon.
Don't listen to these tards, they're mad they can't find great deals like that

>>14082943
>20k for a 09 1 series
>A good deal

Holy shit are you fucking delusional?

>people shitting on 135i
It's actually a bretty cool car, is RWD, I6 twin turbo and not too heavy. It's naturally to be suspicious of BMW's reliability but since you're buying a newer BMW then I suppose you're not a poorfag who won't have enough money for broken water pumps or some electrical gizmos. Anyway I'd get it OP, ignore the jelly poorfags.

>>14082943
>>14082996
I can't tell if this is part of an elaborate ruse to trick op into wasting his money or if you guys just don't know jack about cars.

>>14082996
>It's naturally(sic) to be suspicious of BMW's reliability
Yeah if you're a normie who doesn't know about cars and is just parroting what his poorfag soccermom / cuckdad told him his entire childhood.

along with
>bmw drivers are always bad drivers xdd

chris harris loves the 135i, who you gonna trust? him or a bunch of retards on 4chan whose dream car is a 20 year old nissas with 100hp.

>>14083002
Hey, at least they're not as bad as GM.

>>14083002
>/o/'s famous shitposter
>>14083007
>all dem buzzwords
Also who mentioned that paki youtuber and bad driving? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>14082996
if this was some weebshit o would cream it's pants

>>14083019
>I more so trust the opinion of 16 year olds on an anime image board over a knowledgeable, passionate, experienced automotive journalist
kek

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>>14083040
>knowledgeable, passionate, experienced automotive journalist
>Chris Harris

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>>14083049
>smug face
>smug face

>>14083033
because it wouldnt be an unreliable overpriced shitbox only virgin like for its badge

>>14083061
Oh, so I was talking to Alphonse the entire time. Fuck this gay thread.

>>14083049
compared to you?

>>14083075
no you werent just another wannabee

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>>14083071
>an overpriced shitbox meme-mobile virgins like for its JDM-tyteness

>>14083139
>s15
>overpriced

wat

only for americucks who have to wait 25 years to import them

>>14083071
im not a virgin and I like the 135i
300hp, 0-60 in 4.7 secs, good handling, easy tunable
it is like the baby 1m
for 20k i would probably get an e46 m3 or e39 m5 though

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Well I own the 123d coupe (not available in the US i don't think) with a 204 hp twin turbo, not all that quick but makes for a good rival to a gt86 or mx-5 and it has got a hell of a lot more torque (400ft/lbs I think) I really enjoy driving it with great predictable handling. It is also a really nice place to be (although I am coming from a Type-R so pretty much anything would be an upgrade in refinement) I would only imagine the 135i would l be even better.

Make sure it has the m-sport pack, it comes with lower firmer suspension and other goodies.

Just so you are aware, it is not much lighter than a 3 series coupe, it is a heavy wee car but the 135i should have plenty power to still get you into trouble

>>14082220
If its a 6 speed, go for it. These things are surprisingly fun!

I own a 135i / manual

Car is fucking awesome. Stock ride feels a tadd sluggish but by replacing the suspension alone you will be good to go. Car is quick as hell and even quicker with tune. The 135i in stick holds its value better and are a lot more rare than a 3 series. Most people don't know what they are, if clowns try to race you you can easily blow past them. Don't listen to anyone on this forum. Most own a Miata and have no money what so ever in their bank account.

i'd recommend
>2010
>coupe
>manual
>more than 75k on it

the year and miles will guarantee most of the problem parts on the n54 engine will have been replaced

>>14082220
OP not even hardcore bmw fanboys like 1 series unless theyre pretentious and trying to prove their loyalty

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>>14083305
>Miata
I forgot /o/ actually drives Miatas kek. This would be a good place to get haircut advise

>>14083365
everyone likes the 1 series.

>>14083394
1 series is gay as fuck bro, I bet you suck mad dick.

>>14083454
>said no one ever except teenage nocars

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>>14083454

>>14083394
>>14083461
1 series is their overpriced middle aged mum trying to have status shitbox range, no wonder theyve made them fwd now so dipshits who dont know the difference will pay ridiculous money for it

>>14083461
>>14083539
Lol your gay ass samefagging isn't going to make you and your car any less gay, faggot.

My cousin owns a car dealer and only twinks and hair dressers buy 1 series.

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>>14083557
>being this mad
Enjoy your Miata racerboi

The 1 series looks ugly as fuck, though. Why not just get a same year 335i with the N54 (vs N55) engine that has higher tuning potential provided you can afford the extra maintenance.

>inb4 HPFP
It has a 10 year recall period. You can get it replaced for free, if it hasn't already been.

>>14083603
n54 was in the 135 until 2010 i believe?

>>14083547
>overpriced
>literally costs as much as an optioned honda accord.
yeah okay irrationally madfag, bye now

>>14083726
>attacking the least important part of my argument without even proving it wrong
Didnt even mention whether or not said accord is more reliable which would affect whether its overpriced or not
Are you sure youre not autistic?

>>14083788
the 1 series will literally be just as reliable as an accord if you take care of it. If you are retarded enough to blow the engine it probably will cost more to fix though.

>>14083788
>accord is more reliable cuz honda xd
>middle aged moms buying for badge get 135s

stop typing you absolute retard

>>14083827
When did i say the accord was more reliable or because its a honda it would be?
I was asking him to tell me which one was more reliable so he could give merit to his argument that the 1 series isnt overpriced
Please refrain from calling me a retard because youre insecure about only being able to give me smug anime responses

>>14082220
Good engine. Okay ish interior on that model however.
Rip off for 20k for that price u can get m1.
Or 335i

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201512119395677/sort/atcustom/postcode/b659jp/radius/1501/make/bmw/model/m3/price-to/22500/page/1/usedcars

Much better value

>>14082220

If you really want to gamble your time and money on an N54 BMW, get a 335i.

>>14082958

yeah that's a little steep, i just paid 21k CAD for an '11 328i.

>>14083603

I'm pretty sure it was 8 years/82k miles, many on E90Post are bitching about it.

Hunking piece of shit like most BMWs. I work for a extended warranty company and we quit offering policies on BMWs for them breaking down right after the NVLW expires. Every one I come across is either an oil filter housing leaking or a valve cover gasket leaking. The labor times requested to repair these things are ridiculous as well.

Save yourself OP and don't buy one of these depreciating pieces of junk.

>>14083218
Thats the
123d m sport
With 49k on the last mot.
Noce colour
Same as my 3er

>>14084520
>oil filter housing leak
>valve cover gasket leak
>breaking down
fucking lol

I could do both of those in an hour for $30 in my garage.
normie please get out.

>>14082694
You mean
>shall soon be parted

Does money fucking walk nowadays?

>>14083363
You seem to know a bit about BMW. What say you about post-recall twin turbos on the n54 335i (pre 2010)?

>>14082748
Yeah, you can understeer pretty badly. People who think BMWs handle well haven't driven a real sports car.

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OP here. I can actually do most of the repairs myself, except the electronic witchcraft. It's actually pretty reliable car, if its maintained. I wanted low mileage because I'm not going to put even probably 10k a year on the mileage. I like the "sporty" looks on the 135, since it is a 2 door. Yeah I know the typical "douchebag" that never uses turn signals and shit. I hate them too. I actually think they're really awesome with better wheels.

>>14085723

That's an 1m, a normal one series will never look as cool. It's like comparing a normal e30 to an e30 m3

>>14085741
Actually its a 1m bumper on a 135i. Its actually a pretty popular swap.

>>14085605
the n54 will always be more troublesome than the n55, but the power potential is incredible, a tiny bit of tuning on an n54 unlocks like 50 to 80 horsepower, it's bonkers

that said, HPFP and wastegate rattle are the big things, hence getting one with more miles on it so you know it's been fixed by now (try to get service records by using carfax, not autochecker). There were also some other rarer issues like leaks and rod bearing failure that you can avoid by getting an 09 or 10 since that's later in the life of the n54 and most of the that was ironed out by then.

>>14085723
look into Carly for bmw, it's an app and bluetooth dongle that lets you scan the car for bmw ghost codes, special diagnostic stuff only dealers can see, i highly recommend it

>>14085778
Those are mostly higher mileage cars right about when the turbos need replaced. (82,000 miles)

>>14085778
HPFP doesn't worry me too much. It's pretty cheap to replace. Replacing turbos because of wastegate rattle is what concerns me, and I'm not too eager to do a golf tee mod.

I guess what I'm asking is: is the wastegate rattle issue something that invariably happens to all N54s or is it more like you said, where if it's fixed by 100k miles it's gone for good? Replacing turbos regularly sounds pretty stupid.

>>14082703
Why do stupid people spread their stupid?

>>14086648

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1205805

>replacing the water pump five times
>no big deal

>>14086988

Every turbo BMW and MINI is anecdotally prone to common issues with HPFP, carbon buildup, wastegate problems, etc. They make great power and the N54/5 are great engines when they're working right, but they're drama queen high maintenance cunts. If you can live without the power the N52 is infinitely more reliable.

>>14083218
Which Type R family?

>>14085708
you can understeer only with full stock base models
an e36 on coilovers handles great

Good car, but what the fuck is 20k? Seems way too much for this car.

>>14084879
No, but the person who recieves the money can walk away with it. Unless ofcourse OP buys the car from your mom who I fucked so hard she's now as mobile as a vegetable.
Then the money will be rolling away.

>>14084566
Exactly correct... do I have an internet stalker?!
I love the colour as well, it goes really well with the brown leather interior. I didn't know the 3 series was available in that colour.
>>14087034
It was a 2007 FN2 Civic Type-R, supposedly the softest and easiest to live with but was too firm for the shitty roads in my area (and I love driving the back roads in the north of Scotland)

>>14087027
>replacing water pump: 200-300
>replacing two turbos to get rid of wastegate rattle: 6k
Is there something I'm missing?

>>14088117
nah. the waterpump/thermostat is annoying but the newer designs finally fixed the problem(poorly soldered electronics, a certain capacitor would rattle loose and cause faults). It was a big issue a few years ago when the 06/07s first started getting to the 80k marks and the waterpumps failed on pretty much all of them

>>14082220
Make sure it matches the colour of your purse

Thinking of spending £1000-£1500 on a 3 series E46, around the 2.0L mark. Any thoughts on this? Limited budget because I'm a student but I've been driving for 3 years and need to upgrade from my shitty Renault Clio.

>>14083809
>twin turbo motor will be as reliable as N/A japanese cars

>>14088117

No I just shouldn't have quoted you. I just wanted to point out that water pumps are also a problem.

>>14088390
>omg ull have to service turbos every 100k
>avoid avoid!!

>>14088117
Rebuilt dinan turbos =2k.
As said before, I can do the labor all myself.
>>14088255
It's a satchel

>>14088117
>wastegate rattle
adjust the actuator

>6k for 2 new turbos
what planet you live on m8? I'd love to take my turbos from earth and sell them there, I could make a cool 400% profit

>water pumps
hello, mcfly, it isn't 1996 anymore. the impellers aren't plastic. they are composite and they do not fail.

Literally 99% of you dumb fuck poorfags have never owned a bmw let alone an N54. Stop spouting shit you know absolutely nothing about.

Get the car, OP.

>inb4 LE BAIT MAYMAY eksdee
>inb4 leshggydigggy

>>14089268
>what planet you live on m8? I'd love to take my turbos from earth and sell them there, I could make a cool 400% profit

Not that guy, but before I bought a 328i I talked to the BMW service dept.

>Hey senpai I'm looking at a 335i, is the turbo and HPFP covered in canada under extended warranty or service bulletins?
>HPFP yes, turbos no
>How much to replace tarbos, worst case scenario?
>That'll be about $8k nigga
>Okay thanks bruh I'm gonna get an N52
>That's what I'd do.

>>14089290
>drive N52
>reasonable speed, bretty fun
>drive N54
>holy fucking shit this is fun
>drive the N52 again
>grandma's car.jpg
>b-but muh turbos

Learn to maintain them properly ya fucking dipshit. All you dumb faggots afraid of le bmw reliability maymay

>>14082220
No.

>>14089316

Do you work for BMW? Why are you being such a huge fag? The platform is known to have problems. There are countless owners on E90post who've replaced water pumps, fuel pumps, and turbos more than once. There's a reason they switched to the N55. The N54 was dogshit. That's also why they had to extend warranties for the wastegates and the HPFP.

Yes it's a great car to drive when it works, but some people care about reliability and don't want to deal with unnecessary hassles even for shit that is covered by extended warranties.

>>14089290
>buying a used 5 year old bmw
>having the dealer do it's services
you're like one of those people that buys a 40k ferrari and gets mad that it costs 10k to do a scheduled valve job at the ferrari dealer

6k of that is labor, and you don't need all new turbos anyway.
you can rebuild them if the housings and impellers are fine.
but that's something you'll consider around 100k which is totally respectable for a turbo car.

only 2 types of people should be buying these kinds of cars
1) upper middle class richfag who doesn't care about a 10k service
2) poorfag who has the aptitude to rebuild the entire car himself if he had to

OP here. Found another one with only 25k. same year. Only 22 G's.
>>14089340
Im #2

>>14089340

>grasping at straws

I was calling to ask about extended warranty on the failing parts, obviously I was going to get a quote on the price while I had the dealer on the phone you retard. If they charge $8k, then the $6k quote the post I was replying to was scoffing at clearly wasn't that far out of line.

>You should only buy an N54 if you can rebuild it with your own hands
>But it's not shit guys I swear

>>14089325
I've owned bmws longer than you've been alive you fucking zero. You literally know nothing.

>b-but e90 post

HOLY FUCK you are fucking retarded. Literally zero knowledge in your turd ass excuse of a brain. Keep talking about things you have zero experience or knowledge regarding.

>b-but e90post

I still can't fucking believe you thought that was worth mentioning. My experience? E46, E39, E92 335i and E92 M3, wife's X3. Your experience? Fucking e90post.

>>14089325
They changed to the n55 because the 335 was literally killing m3 sales because of how much better an engine it was.

I have no idea where the down syndrome negativity is from today, but an n54 1 series with that mileage is a great deal op. I was between that and a 335xi. I went with the better DD, gl op

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>>14082220
>20K
>6-year-old BMW
>6-year-old TURBO BMW

>>14089325
the people on e90post are morons.
wastegate rattle? replace both turbos xdddd
oh gee the inherent wastegate problem came back on my oem turbo.. replace turbos again xdddd
man this car sux!!

or they could actually figuring out whats causing the rattle and fix it, in the n54's case it's the actuator needing to be adjusted or even re-engineered if youre so inclined. its just a piece of metal rod. an internal wastegate is the simplest fucking mechanism on that car.

>muh maintence
yeah the soccer mom/dad who doesnt maintain his/her car and has no idea wtf is wrong with it and takes it to the dealer for every little thing and doesnt understand the cost of labor.. yeah im sure he/she thinks bmws are super expensive to maintain because they are retarded normies.

these are like the people who buy $2000 guitars and take it to the shop to get it tuned or set the action

>>14089378
>They changed to the n55 because the 335 was literally killing m3 sales because of how much better an engine it was.
Exactly. You can easily tune a 335i to match M3 capabilities. This is also the reason they killed the 1M.

>I have no idea where the down syndrome negativity is from today
Try every day, the BMW threads get swarmed with retarded "google experts" who think because they read stories on the internet that they now possess knowledge on the cars.

>>14089390
Well said. My favorite example. Replace an alternator yourself? ~$250 for the part and an hour of your time (two if you're slow). Have a dealer replace it? ~$250 + random $75 fee, $200 for two hours labor = $525. Why do people not understand this? Also this fucking meme that if you buy a BMW you need 5 grand to immediately fix something and another 10 per year to maintain it. The fuck? I've owned 5 bimmers over 15 years and never had that problem.

By the way, funny you mention the $2000 guitar thing, I know a guy who bought a PRS for 3 grand, doesn't know how to select the pickups properly. Always ties his strings going the wrong way. I guess that means PRS are bad guitars.

>>14089435
I had to take 275 GTB to the dealer 3 times this year to have the carbs matched and I burnt a valve because one bank was lean! Cost me 10k!! This car sux!! Take my word for it avoid ferrari!!

>>14089390
E90post is a pretty positive place actually, I go there often. As with any car, you're going to have hundreds of 1 time posters spamming threads to get help with their Googleable problems.

Anywho, the car is a quirky monster OP, do it you faggot. Set aside $2K before you buy it...so you can dump it on going fbo and then love your car even more.

But actually look into if its had a walnut blasting yet, the buildup with this DI engine can be pretty real. I think you said yours were pretty low miles, but 50K might be getting about due.

Also if you get an auto (please don't for a 135), be sure you get the Alpina tcu refash immediately. I'd say it's on par for firstbuyitems with a piggyback like jb4.

>>14089477
Eerie how accurate this post is, even though it's sarcastic
>>14089488
My 335i auto w/ paddles was my DD back in 2008-2012 and to be honest, coming from a MT 330i I preferred the auto w/ paddles. You can still have fun and be lazy during high traffic. The paddles make up for the lack of a third pedal. All just my opinion ofc

>>14089488
Will do. It does come with the auto, (with paddle shifters), most of them did, since most bmws owners don't know how to drive stick. (I do, I already have a vintage car (project)). It just came on sale recently so I'm guessing everything up to date.

>>14089516
Mine is auto too. The tcu reflash makes it more enjoyable to me than the manual e92 m3 I sold for it.

>>14089362

>Experiences of actual owners of the actual engine we are discussing aren't valid because I don't like the car forum
>I'm an expert because I've owned some good ones
>Ignoring the fact that BMW had to offer extended warranties on this platform

I don't see why you are so terminally buttblasted over this. There are documented issues with the N54, OP can make his own decision whether he's concerned about them or not, but your level of passion about this is totally unwarranted.

>>14089378

>They redesigned an engine for a short run because not enough people were buying M3's

okay.jpg

>>14089609
>but your level of passion about this is totally unwarranted.
>bmw thread
>should I buy?
>54 replies
>DONT GET IT HPFP TURBO WASTEGATE WATER PUMP WILL BREAK EVERY YEAR 10K EACH PART DONT BUY OP I READ IT ON E90POST DONT ACTUALLY HAVE A CAR YET IM SAVING UP FOR A COROLLA

i wouldnt do it on the basis that i really dont like that color and would never own a bmw class lower than a 3 series let alone a non m series car

>>14088095
Well slightly darker
'Million red'


I hope you got your Front brake discs as they were corroded at 40k MOT in 2014.

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i think you can find a better deal on a newer one

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>>14089714
135i fob + tune + sticky tires> e90/2 m3 all day every day baby boo

>>14090024
The newer ones are worse cars in every aspect

isn't the 2016 model going for that same price?

>>14083547
135i is RWD though

>>14089325
if you get a higher mileage 2010 almost all the problematic parts will have been replaced, at that point it's just the standard bmw issues of various gaskets....although even those are switching to a far superior but slightly more expensive rubber compound from the old Buna.....fuck buna, fuck it forever

>>14090024
Oh fuck, i want to own a z4 sdrive 35i one day. its the facelifted hard top convertible z4 with the n54 in it. i really like the styling on those, a proper long nose roadster

>>14091080
>if you get a higher mileage 2010 almost all the problematic parts will have been replaced
I've seen you give this advice quite a bit, I don't really agree with it. Why gamble? You can just get a low mileage car with a decade of life left plus you'll know what hasn't been replaced. I hate buying 60k-100k mile cars and having no idea if and when fluids were done, intake valves especially in turbo cars, and shit like that.

>>14091126
ob, forgot to mention two things
-get a carfax, it will probably show where service and repairs were done, call up those places and ask for records. that way you know if big things have been done already
-get a prepurchase inspection, but that's a given

i can see what you mean about lower mileage cars but if you know the repair has been done and when, its a lot mote peace of mind

>>14089268
>what planet you live on m8? I'd love to take my turbos from earth and sell them there, I could make a cool 400% profit
Planet BMW dealership, son.

>>14091806
>oem turbos: $800 each
>labor: free for real men

I have owned a 2009 135i for 4 years, no problems. FBO + tune + Meth & 100oct it dynoyed 482hp wheel and 502trq. Car is fantastic. 11.8 in the 1/4 before I added the meth.

>>14089390
>Knows more than the collective sum of everyone on e90post.
good thing you warned us about all those soccer moms and dads posting on e90post. I'll stick to the advice of Chinese cartoon enthusiasts from now on. Shit I think I'll buy a BMW now.

>>14092121
epic post friend!

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>>14083218
>diesel

>>14089268
>adjust the actuator
I took your advice and looked into this, and it looks like it's hit or miss. I think I'll just keep 2k saved up for installing some rebuilt Dinan turbos like anon said.

>>14082220
Never driven one, always wanted one.
1M's are the only BMW's I really like, and whoever says they aren't available in America needs to talk to my local BMW dealers because half their lot is illegal.