Godly V6 Thread

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Cant have a V6 thread without one of these.

>Reliable
>Powerful
>Good fuel economy
>is what made the GNX the GNX

Actually wanted to swap one in my car but i don't know if that's possible (W-body)

unfortunately that's the only V6 i know enough about to confidently post.

>>14061972
I bet the supercharger whine sounds awesome over that V6, My mom almost bought a cobalt SS back in 07, but we needed a sedan.

>>14061895
>Godly
>V6
Does not compute.

VQ35 is heavy and wide. Like, as big as an LS (if not bigger), with way less output.

>>14061972
>heavy iron block
>iron heads
>IRON FUCKING HEADS
>90 degree V6 for maximum can't-put-it-anywhere
3800 a shit.

Also, yes, the W-body came with Buick V6's from the factory, so swapping them in should be possible.

>>14061995

>IRON FUCKING HEADS
>90 degree V6 for maximum can't-put-it-anywhere

>my sides are in orbit

Yea they had their disadvantages but they were the back-bone of GM's sedans kinda like the 60s when every american commuter-car had a V8

But glad to hear the swap is possible

>>14061972
ZZP top swap? Look it up

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>bulletproof reliability
>more powerful than its contemporaries in the entry-level luxury sedan market (except Infiniti)
>sounds more like a turbine off an Abrams tank than a gas engine up to 4000 RPM
>VTEC if you give a shit about gimmicky stuff like that

My TL has been though countless collisions. has had almost body panel replaced once, has shorted out half the electronics from water damage, but 170K miles later the engine hasn't had so much as a hiccup with the absolute bare-bones maintenance I've done on it.

Honda/Acura has forever earned my trust in their engines.

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Great little engine. Unfortunately though, I spun a bearing on it. RIP

Looked at a 350z, pretty sure they use it? Anyway, how bad are they mpg wise? I mean I know it depends on a lot more too but do they swallow the gas?

>>14061995
>as big as an LS
>comparing pushrod to OHC

m8 a Miata 1.6 engine is almost as big as an LS. It's the design.

>>14062229
They get like 29mpg highway

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>>14062229
its the same engine, mpg wise i drive my g35 sedan pretty hard most of the day and i get 15mpg city driving, about 25 on the freeway just cruising.
They are not light on gas but you can drive it hard and still get decent mpg
just don't get a stanced one as a lot of them are

>VQ
>good

friendly reminder

VG>VQ

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>>14061995
>LS
>literal Shit

>>14062294
thats powered by an LT you dumb fuck lmao

>>14062310
>Literally Total shit

nice job

>>14062239
A miata 1.6/1.8 with headers on is as big as an ls without headers. I wouldn't call that being the same at all.

Source: miata guru

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>>14062258
>stretched tires
>on stock suspension, no drop

absolutely disgusting

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2GR-FSE reporting, 306 crank is fine for me

>>14062184
came to post this

KL is my favorite V6

>>14062384
uhh

you know that car is on a jack right

>2GR-FSE
>nice linear power
>bulletproof
>306 HP
Pretty good engine, especially considering it debuted in 2005.

>>14061895
>>14062166
Was about to post the same pic, better gas mileage than VQ35, and ive been pulling on G35s since I was stock and I still get 31 mpg highway. It sounds amazing at low rpm, way more of a grumble than the high note in the VQ

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Ford/Mazda's 3.5L Ecoboost.

356 hp
350 lb-ft

At a price everyone can afford.

>>14062064
It's not just possible, it's fucking common. Given you were talking about a W-body, can I assume you have a 3100 or 3400 powered car? If so, keep the original engine. It's a better engine overall than the 3800 will ever be.

3800 a shit.

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>>14061895
Meet the LQ1.
>60* V6 just like the VQ35DE
>same exact firing order as the VQ35DE
>sounds amazing
>similar displacement DOHC V6

>>14062418
That's what's weird, the curve looks great, but I can't tell if it's fake pedal feel or what when I go into sport but I only get that "oh there it is" power at 4500rpm
Vvt-i maybe?

>>14062933
Damn, I just watched an acceleration video, and those things sound just like a VQ, and they had them in the 90s.

>>14062286
the vg30tt would be amazing if it wasn't total shit to work on and expensive to build

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>>14061895
Mercedes V6 is best V6

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>>14062980

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VG30e

>>14062961
because apparently GM made the VQ V6 before Nissan did, and they did it using a pushrod V6 engine block.
Pull the heads off an LQ1 and there are literal unused holes for the pushrods.

>>14062961
>>14063029
I never thought about it, but they do sound similar. Thanks for pointing that out.

LQ1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3RNbq4j66A

VQ35DE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJdBwuIn4Ec

>>14062949
I have an IS350 as well and I know what you're talking about. It's not really the VVT. It's more related to the torque curve. Basically the torque plateaus around 4500 RPM to redline for our engines. That's why you feel the most pull there. In my experience many N/A engines feel like this. If you want more pull lower down, you have to drive a turbo car like the 335i.

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>>14063136
>Nissan copied GM's exhaust note

>>14063196
GM wins (again)

>>14063136
Stop using that video, the Lumina sounds like dick.

>>14063207
This better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfsdSItZWJE

>>14063236
Not really.

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Duratec 30

>>14063428
Where's the engine? All I see is a big square of plastic.

lol whats going on in this thread? The VQ didn't copy anything GM did. The LQ1 that you're referencing is from 1991 at the oldest and the VG30DE (a proper comparison and spiritual predecessor to the VQ) is from 1987 in the 300zr and MID4 concept. Really grasping at straws trying to prove GMs superiority huh?

>>14062915

its a 3.6 liter. I'm not sure if that's related to the 3800 or not or if its better.

>>14063564
The 3.6L? That would be completely unrelated.

Why would you drop the glorious 3.6L for the 3800? The 3.6L makes more power than even the supercharged versions of the 3800.

Your stock engine is 10 times better than the 3800 could ever hope to be. Just keep it as is.

>>14063658

Ah, i had no idea. i do hope its as reliable and durable as the 3800 as i plan on driving it for years to come.

that would give me full confidence in it.

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>>14062831

>MFW the 2.3l in the RS makes nearly the same amount.
>MFW the new gen 3.5 liter is coming soon.png

>>14063753
which model is it btw?
Only 2 W-body cars got the 3.6L
2005-2009 Buick Lacrosse's (top of the line trim levels, makes about 250 HP)
2012+ Chevrolet Impala (2014-2015 is fleet order only. 300 HP)

Early 3.6's had trouble with the timing chain tensioners, particularly in the Lambda CUV's, but the problem was quickly resolved. I haven't heard any horror stories about the 3.6

>>14063779

2012 Impala. Bought with 21,000 miles on it and now has 34,000 on it. no problems so far.

>>14063867
You're golden then. The 3.6 is pretty damned bulletproof.

/o/ has actually recommended the 2012+ Impala's on numerous occasions, so it's a great car, if somewhat outdated.

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>>14062975
Again it's not that hard to work on, after you do a few bypasses the plenum can be removed in half the time. You can also purchase a basic rebuild for under $2k.

>>14063881

Great, was hoping i chose something good and i liked the way it looked as it doesn't draw attention.

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Honda's J30 V6, sounds great, and It's quite a nice looking engine to come in Honda's somewhat pedestrian looking vehicles.

Step inside an S54 M3 if you want a great sound and loads of power.

This isn't a "powerful for its time" motor. I guarantee will still rival most V8 ponies and any other 6 cyl cars.

>inb4 not V6

>>14065271
Chicoboost

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>>14061972

>S/C 3800
>Powerful
>good mpg

What the fuck am I reading?

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Ford®'s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMlBOge7iSU

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pls love me

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249HP Lambda 3.3 from my mom's Sonata V6 But it's insanely durable.
>Engine started and driven cold everyday.
>Engine cranked while running numerous times.
>A few times went 10k between oil changes. (Oil still somewhat clean even for 10k)

Literally everything bad a white woman can do to a car, and it still hauls ass.

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>>14061972
Im at 170k on my Series 3 S/C, leaking oil from the valve cover gaskets and coolant from the intake gasket and it does not care. Starts up immediately with no issue and does not care if I beat on it. Great engine

>Makes a solid 265hp
>Mileage is ok at best
>Reliable as FUCK
>Even if something does go bad, the engine is so cheap and common, finding any replacement parts is easy
>Cars it powers are also cheap and a dime a dozen, while also being nice (HUD, leather, Bose sound, etc)
>Has a huge aftermarket full of inexpensive quality parts that give a huge boost to power
>Dat whine

Only cons really are the tranny and the sound (has a decent low end), which are both not great.

Just got a new PCM in for $60 and raised the rev limiter to 6k, unlocked the speed limiter to past 140, WOT fuel is richer, and the tranny tables are changed to shift quicker, harder and improve reliability. Next is some exhaust work and to fix those leaks.

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>>14065398
I got you bro.

>>14065405

>Indiana plates

Where ya from Hoosier anon?

>>14065456
FW, you?

>>14061972
As someone that drives an 03 GTP the 3800 SC is total shit. 15MPG, slower then NA Accords, shitty GM rear main seals.


About the only thing it has going for it is if you get out the dex cool and keep oil it it then will go for 200k without issue.

>>14063438
Very reliable and decent power.

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>>14065404
KEK
No hard feelings lad, but didn't you start that thread about how your moms sonata was a super fast sleeper? You really gotta get behind the wheel of a quicker car

>>14065559
Yes I did, I wouldn't say it was the fastest thing on the road, but it's quicker than most, and it's very ugly, so it's hilarious to pass the fart can civics I see zipping around.

>>14065571
Most underage post I ever seen on 4chan

>>14065297

Wasn't necessarily referring to that particular 3800 but 3800 V6s in general

The one used in the Regal GNX was certainly powerful (for its time at least) stepping on the toes of Corvettes with 300HP (had lots of torque) 0-60 in 5-ish seconds

As for fuel economy yea i overestimated that.

>>14065506

Yea grabbed a random image of one off the net wasn't talking about the SC in particular.

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>>14065571
>underage
>driving your moms car
>passing civics is an accomplishment
>FWD
>Street racing
>Less than 300hp
>Hyundai
>Ever

>>14065705
The non SCs are even worse, fucking LiM gasket failing, LiM itself failing due to the EGR tube expanding and cracking it. Fucking Dex Sludge clogging up the rad making it over heat cooking the head gaskets.


Fuck I've had to many 3800s cars. I normally buy em dirt cheap because they are fucked, fix wm with cheap chink parts/junk yard parts, drive em for a bit then sell it for profit

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200+ HP from a family sedan was pretty impressive back in 1990

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>>14065837

The best thing to do with these is take the 3.2 out of an ATX and swap the 3.0 cams from the MTX cars in.

>>14065769

Damn, never seen that side of em. i guess i felt they deserved a spot for spawning some high-performance muscle cars in the Dark ages of the american auto industry. That, and the ones my neighbors owned were pretty solid.

also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrfIW4zQmM

Kinda made me a fan of the 3800

>>14065958
I guess if you look at them in their time sure but they got beat out fast but modern engines. The 99 Mustang GT only made 260hp but now we live in the age of 260hp accords.

>>14065734
>>14065580
I don't have my own car anons, how else is a 20yo dude to joyride?

>>14066189
Why don't you have a car at 20 years old?

>>14066192
Because I'm saving money for a G35 sedan with the 6MT and I want no car payment.

>>14066203
How long is that gonna take anon? Can you drive a stick? You gonna put it in a ditch because you think your bloated sedan is a sports car? Gonna burn up the clutch in 2 weeks then leave it parked for months because you are still broke?

Fuck anon you are 20 not 16, you should be looking to move out of moms basement not trying to borrow her minivan for taco bell runs.

Fucking kids these days

>>14066222
Yes, I can, my father had an old celica, and I used to fuck with it as a kid. The G is a straight people, and I wouldn't rice around, i'd cruise around at max torque like a boss.

>>14066232
goddamn, this phone, I mean't the car was a straight beast*

>>14061972
>mfw only ever owned v8 and i6's
>was about to post this
Argh

>>14066232
>Yes, I can, my father had an old celica, and I used to fuck with it as a kid. The G is a straight people, and I wouldn't rice around, i'd cruise around at max torque like a boss.

Please stop, first off you are still a kid, second of all what does "G is a straight people" mean? What does "cruise around at max torque like a boss" mean?

Where do you work?

>>14066203

I had a 6mt G35 sedan, it was ok.

I like my Y34 M45 more though

>>14066239
>max torque like a boss
you know, like the rpm in which a car can pull card without downshifting, you'd think an /o/ anon would get this.

>>14066263
*hard, I really cannot type for shit right now, excuse me.

>>14066263
>Max tq
>V6
>Not down shifting
>Bogging out the engine for some retarded reason


ahh anon, why not just down shift? Are you black?

>>14066270
25% black desu, I cruise at 3500rpm on the freeway and nothing happens, if it's not some cock and balls car it should handle it.

>>14066274
>25% black

I only ask because I do see a lot of black people bogging out cars. I always figured they didn't know how to drive a stick but now I see it's cause they are retarded.

>I cruise at 3500rpm on the freeway and nothing happens

First off I said bogging down, that's what happens when you stomp on it in two high of a gear and nothing happens. Also cursing at 3500 on the freeway is outright retarded. Why not just up shift and cruise at a lower RPM? Why burn gas for no reason? You are gonna fuck that car up in a month.

>>14066274
Also what are you cursing on the highway at 3500 RPMs? Your moms minivan? Do you put it in 3 or something? Does she know you beating on it like that?


Fuck dude, get it together

>>14066293
That car is 6 years old, bought it used in 2010 when I was 15, Been riding in it ever since, doing pulls and spirited driving, yet the engine is really healthy, and I keep sure the maintenance isn't going to hell.

thinking about putting a 2GR-FE into my second gen MR2. thoughts?

>>14066312
So you are talking about an automatic transmission minivan? Right? That you hold it a lower gear to "cruse at max torque"? Am I getting it right?

>>14066327
It's a hyundai sonata with a lame, 5 speed shiftronic transaxle, I shift into 4th gear on the freeway for passing power if fuel isnt an issue.

>>14066334
>hyundai sonata

Where does that come in in relation to your mom's minivan, is it your fathers car? You do know if you floor it the auto will downshift for you. Plus before you where talking about cursing at max tq and now you are talking about down shifting to pass.


What is it anon? Is it your mother or father that is half black? Is your father around? Does he know you beat on the cars like that? Does he know you waste gas that i'm assuming you don't replace?

>>14066352
My mom is dutch-indonesian and irish (looks white)
My is half black and half irish
My dad passed in 07, and the hyundai sonata is the only vehicle we have at the moment.

>>14066352
And yes I do replace the consumed fuel, The car is not beat on, like doing burnout and shit, just enjoyed.

>>14066365
So your dad was half black and dead? Where you the anon talking about his moms minivan? What happened to it?

>>14066374
>The car is not beat on, like doing burnout and shit, just enjoyed

If i'm understanding you right, you cruise on the highway in a low gear for max tq for no other reason then if you need to pass someone. This is 100% beating on a car and is right there with burnouts and "shit".

>>14066408
>where
pardon me, meant were

>>14066408
The anon mentioning the minivan was shitposting. I don't always cruise at 3500rpm, just when I need the engine to have umph, and a lamda engine with a big heavy flywheel and parts makes all its torque at 3500rpm, a low rpm, that's not at all beating on the car when it redlines at 6000 rpm. This car is in better shape than most on the road.

>>14066430
>cruise at 3500rpm, just when I need the engine to have umph

I don't know how many times or different ways it needs to be said. That is 100% beating on a car, why do you do that in a car? It's an auto, it will downshift if you step on it. Even if it was stick it's still beating on it. You are putting more wear and tear on the engine by doing this.


Anon, I'm starting to think the stereotypes about black kids with no dads are true.

>>14066446
lol, i'm more like a cracker than anything else, I obey the law like a pussy, work, and take full responsibility for my fuckups. But seriously that damn sonata runs fine. The most worn out thing is the windshield wipers, which I need to replace, because rain is coming.

>>14066446
I'm pretty sure he just doesn't mean cruise. Just like when I downshift in my 5 speed mustang to match traffic speeds before I stand on it. Yes... I'm "cruising" as in not running away from the other cars, It's more that I'm positioning getting ready for a pass or lane change etc.
If dat nigger is actually just cruising at 3500 rpm...
a. if you can afford that mpg you should just get a sc400.
b. what are you doing m8?

>>14066494
>to match traffic
While matching traffic*

>>14066494
Fucking this, finally someone gets it, I would't turn over 3500rpm on an open road.

>>14066484
How you think all them belt driven accessorizes are doing? If you are gonna keep being retarded for no reason you might want to look into under drive pulleys.

Also just know that if your father is very disappointed in you for acting like a retard for no reason

>>14066494
But he said "cruise for max tq" and when I asked him he did not deny he was just rolling down the interstate over reving like a retard

>>14066501
Then don't say fucking cruise you nignog, that isn't cruising.

>>14066506
Like I said, the damn engine is fine, What do you think I don't check my moms shit before I drive it, I always check the rubber materials, such as hoses and belts, for cracks. Also my father would be fine, i do what I need to do, my cousins father cannot be as proud of him because he uses drugs.

>>14066508
Well shit, here in california the traffic is so dense it almost feels like you're cruising.

>>14065571
>slower than a v6 camry
>faster than most

>>14066517
>rubber materials
Dis nigga be trollin.
m8 cruising at 10k rpm ain't breaking your hoses.

>>14066521
I'm in the bay nigga.
Stop m8, just stop.

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>>14066528
I'll stop when these anons stop, Also why is everyone calling me a nignog when i'm really white, I even sound like a white boi..

>>14066508
He's back peddling, he doesn't want to look retarded on a chinese anonymous image board. I made it super clear what he does and why he does it. I just hope he learns from this

>>14066517
>I always check the rubber materials, such as hoses and belts, for cracks

I'm talking about the internals of the accessories, bet them bearings got some nice heat discoloration on them.

>Like I said, the damn engine is fine

How do you know? Got a borescope to check the cylinder walls? Break know the engine and check the mains? You don't know what the engine is doing

>my cousins father cannot be as proud of him because he uses drugs

So it's okay for you to be retarded because your cousin uses drugs?

>>14066525
>trolling
Anyone that tracks a car for a while will now the accessories take a fucking beating being run at high RPMs for a long time. Maybe if you had a more then cursory understanding of what prolonged high RPM wear does to a engine you would know I wasn't talking about rubber, do wish your dad used a rubber though so one less retard would be walking the earth

>>14066545
>Now
Meant know, fucking cell phone auto correct

>>14066538
Color is more then skin deep, you might look white but you act like a retarded nigger.

>>14066545
>>trolling
Anyone that tracks a car for a while will now the accessories take a fucking beating being run at high RPMs for a long time. Maybe if you had a more then cursory understanding of what prolonged high RPM wear does to a engine you would know I wasn't talking about rubber, do wish your dad used a rubber though so one less retard would be walking the earth
I'm saying if he is running at 10k rpm his hoses are the last of his worries.
He's blowing the motor before the hoses wear out.

>>14066545
>borescope
I don't have time for that shit, I've taken the oil cap off, just warm air, practically no blow by, The car is just a total beast

>>14066314
Well this thread went to shit real quick but I'll bite, my grandparents have a 2008 ES with a 2GR-FE in it, amazing engine, reliability wise the only big thing that goes are the oil pan seals. But man it's got power of you need it, would to crazy well in an mr2 if you can fit it.

>>14066563
This is some next level shit.
I think the implication is that when you take off the oil cap if the oil doesn't shoot out and blow by you as a person, the motor doesn't have any blow by.

>>14066568
It's not poofing or smoking, so the motors still good.

>>14066568
That is what is is saying, he has no clue what he's talking about or doing. He can't help it though he's black and Irish. Just be happy he's not totally brain dead

>>14066572
Anon, that's not true at all. Also what about the internals of the accessories? You wan't to talk about belts i'm talking about internals of alternators and power steering pumps. Anon you should apologize to your mom about beating on her Korean shit box but she is a race trader so she kinda got what's coming to her, having a retarded kid and all

>>14066590
I thought he has an sc300 or ls300 or something?
Did i follow the thread poorly?

>>14066596
First it was a gook mini van now it's a sonata with paddle shift

>>14066604
It doesn't even have paddles, the shift knob moves over and you shift it yourself, it feels so retarded without a clutch but I try to have fun.

>>14066604
Oh fuck me. I'm gonna just punch out then. I thought he had an sc300 so this at least made sense in the I HAVE A NON TURBO SUPRA GUYS SO I CRUISE AROUND AT 3500 RPM SO I CAN RUN DESE SLOW CARS.
Good luck man, fight the good fight.

vg33e t͏bh fa͏m

>>14066608
>Manuel shifting a gook v6 family car

You are the blackest dude on 4chan right now, shouldn't you want a Pontiac Grand Prix or a Dodge Charger?

>>14066610
This is to good for me to leave, just checking for replies in between warping gifts for my kid

>tfw everyone shits on V6 mustangs

They're fun and cheaper than the V8.

For the cost, they're really not so bad.

>>14066621
Fuck you, gt owner here.

>>14066620
>Implying I prefer to drive shit cars.
I do with what I have anon, and new I don't like Pontiacs or dodges, I prefer a diesel car, which will make it's torque at 2000 rpm or so.

>>14066625
>Implying I said the GT was bad

Nigger, have you ever been a poorfag?

You take what you can get.

>>14066637
>Nigger, have you ever been a poorfag?
Yes, I had a 4cyl nissan then after I got a job I bought a v8 mustang.

>>14066636
You wanted an Infinity like 7 posts ago, unless i'm out of the loop Infinity doesn't have a diesel car

Why are you so obsessed with tq? Literally a big dumb american v8 is all about tq. Empresses your blackness and get a Charger. In your heart you know it's what you want.


Also waiting for you to explain how opening the oil cap and oil not pissing out is proof the engine is not fucked, what about the accessories? Did you check your power steering fluid to see if that's pissing out?

What do you do for a living? Are you in school? Does your mom know your up this late being retarded?

>>14066621
V6 stangs are great, make like 10hp less then a WRX STI for crying out loud. Only assburgers on 4chan and import sites shit on them.

>>14066646
>Empresses
embrace

My swift key is acting almost as retarded as the black kid beating on the gook car

>>14066646
Yeah I still do want the infiniti, there's alot of sexy four doors I want, But a little volkswagon diesel would be a cool car to torque around in and be efficient.

And yes I do work part time, but It's lame,I've got a good amount of experience and am trying to get a full time job as well as get my A+ certification to work professionally with computers. Gotta work to make whatever car I get happen.

>>14066652
What in the flying fuck happened to /o/?
When I was ... ... 8-10 years younger? I would have never had the balls to talk up a v6 mustang on 4 chan. Also holy fuck has it been a long time I need to stop this
What is this I'm poor let me have my opinions bullshit? Is this the same mentality transgender people have now?
Like literally who cares about you being a poor fag stop being poor instead of chopping your dick off.
>>14066652
>>14066637
>>14066621

>>14066664
8-10 years ago you probably would've been 5.

>>14066662
>working part time
>Trying to make "whatever car happen"
>A+ cert as an end goal

Jesus Christ, did your mom smoke when she was pregnant with you?

>Yeah I still do want the infiniti, there's alot of sexy four doors I want, But a little volkswagon diesel would be a cool car to torque around in and be efficient

By torque around around do you mean riding around in the wrong gear because you think it's cool? How is that in any way efficient. Though diesel VWs are cool, wife has one and it's a great daily driver and comfy for long trips. A performance car in away way it's not.

>>14066670
And 8-10 years ago you wouldn't have been chopping your dick off while being pegged by your feminist girlfriend while talking up a v6 mustang.
Oh wait, I'm not 13-15... though you do seem to be talking up a v6 mustang.

>>14066679
Not even that guy, but I really wanted to buy a g37x... until I found out it gets like 17/23, like wat? Shit ain't even fast.

>>14066664
Well 8-10 years ago when they where still using that 4.0 they sucked ass. Now they are making as much power as the old 5.0. They handle better and stop better now too.


Only reason to not like a V6 stang is because it's a girls car but that doesn't stop /o/ from cuming on MX5s

>>14066679
See that's the thing man, a car can be cool, tho not fast, the newest VW 2.0L TDI, makes exactly the torque my mom's makes at 3500rpm with a V6, at 1750rpm, it's a very capable car, despite having a lower top speed.

>>14066680
I like V6 mustangs, but I have a V8 dick son, come at me. #dicks

>>14066692
I agree, I no longer wish to discuss this as I don't believe we can ever see eye to eye.

>>14066694
The benchracer is strong with this one.

>>14066687
Was just about to get into how the G3x cars are kinda ass but I got hung up on his other stupid shit

>>14066694
Like I said, I have a VW diesel. Cool little car, it's not fast al all. Please tell how tq curve is gonna effect how you drive a econo box? Also why are you talking about top speed? Are you doing a lot of 130mph pulls on the highways? Man your poor moms car, shame she had to get BLACKED and have a retard like you

>>14066700
As long as you accept you have assburgers for hating on a V6 Stang i'm ok to walk away

>>14066705
>Blacked

My dad was the whitest nigga you'd ever meet, he was a truck driver, almost a redneck really.

>>14066705
>130mph pulls

I don't even drive fast, and like I said the top speed doesn't matter to me, I just like a car that kicks ass, I don't care about speed.

>>14066713
I know it's hard to accept mom is a degenerate but the sooner you accept that and work on your problems you might one day have normal brain functions (well normal for a black, still retarded next to white)

>>14066723
>A car that kicks ass

What do you mean by this, please explain tq to me, please explain why you love being a retard and cruise at the wrong gear, please explain why you are this retarded when at your finger tips is the world wide web. #blacklivesareretarded

>>14066711
Sorry, i phrased it wrong. I'm gonna walk away.
Everything you have said is true. I simply concede that I no longer wish to continue this debate/argument. I'm not asking you to walk away, you win.

>>14066738
The VW diesel makes max torque at 1750rpm
sonata V6 at a whopping 3500rpm
it takes longer to rev up to 3500rpm than upshift
The Vw will be faster than the sonata to accelerate from a stop.
The sonata has a shit ton of HP and will eventually pass it on a straight.
thats the difference, torque gets you going, HP makes your top speed higher.

>>14062337
>literally trash

I got u familia

>>14066749
Anon, it takes a big man to say that. I don't think I could admit I was wrong.

>>14066753
Before I even start with sorting through that hot retard bullshit you just posted. Please define HP vs TQ vs kW. I'll even let you use google

>>14066779
Look man, i'll i'm saying is that i'd rather have a car, that tops out at 120mph with the efficiency of a 2.0L 4cyl, that has near instant torque that of a V6 than a high horsepower car that needs a high rpm, and fuel.

>>14066795
wants a 4cyl that equals a 6 cyl instead of just owning an 8.
Jesus Christ cars are dead aren't they?
man fuck me. eco boost mustang is going to be the next 15 years before electric self driving cars take over.

>>14066801
What's wrong with a capable 4cyl? If I can move effortlessly down the street and use less energy, why the hell not?

>>14066808
Because you aren't winning.

>>14066813
>winning
Turbo 4 cyls producing more HP and torque than my uncle's G35 coupe is not winning.

>>14066821
Yes.

>>14066824
And they say i'm the one with niggerish taste in cars...

>>14066829
you ask a yes/no question then get mad? For what purpose?

>>14066795
>Tq of a v6
>efficiency of a 2.0L 4cyl
>near instant torque that of a V6

Anon, everything you say is wrong. My 2.0d passat does 0-60 in like 8.5 seconds. I would bet your v6 gook car is faster even with you beating on it harder then your dick for years

>>14066813
Are you sure you are 20? You act like you are 13. Also since you won't bother to even google what tq is I'll just assume you are gonna let your black and Irish blood keep you retarded. Your father is rolling over in his grave right now, that is if he even thinks about you being hes black and rolled out on your mom.

>>14066834
He didn't ask anything anon, are you a drop out? Have you been tested?

>>14066834
I like posting and i'm bored,I want to kill time before this 2:30am work shift.

>>14066838
>rolled out on your mom
No I knew him until I was 11 when he passed.

Also your passat has 136hp, that's why it's so slow, the sonata has 249 crank horsepower, of course it does 60 in like really quick.

>>14066849
At this point i'm not sure if you are trolling or this retarded. You said the VW diesels are fast, I can assure you they are not, they are hardly peppy.


Everything you said is wrong, every opinion and preference is shit. I'm trying to help you anon but you have to stop resisting. Don't let your African blood control you. It's not to late!

>>14066866
>hardly peppy
Then why do I see 90HP VWs going 120mph, and accelerating quite fast for the low HP, yet the garbage gas 4cyls my mom had when I was a kid were slow to begin with, and when you put an an adult passenger and to kids in it, was even more shitty and slow.

Torque is like strength, the girls at my workplace can probably run faster than me, but they cant run faster than me with 50lbs in my hands.

>>14066886
>Then why do I see 90HP VWs going 120mph

Maybe down hill with a strong tail wind and 5 miles to get up to speed

>4cyls my mom had when I was a kid were slow to begin with, and when you put an an adult passenger and to kids in it, was even more shitty and slow

So your mom's economy people mover was slow, okay what do you think a diesel VW is? It's a fucking economy people mover that is slow

>Torque is like strength, the girls at my workplace can probably run faster than me, but they cant run faster than me with 50lbs in my hands

I asked you about tq and HP, you have google at your finger tips, and that is what you shit out?

>>14066897
It isn't even that scientific, why else would a diesel school bus weighing a shitload be faster with a diesel than it would with a 249hp v6 with less torque? If horsepower is so damn good, why aren't semi trucks gas engines? It's because they pull hard, and can do work efficiently.

>>14066897
and yes, if my moms shitty economy car had a diesel, you bet your ass it wouldve moved the whole family with no problem, because the engine is so low revving it could stay in that torque sweet spot of 2000rpm.

>>14066886
>>14066694
You realise that torque is just the amount of force per revolution right? Even though your moms car and the golf produce the same amount of torque at 3.5k and 1.75k revs respectively, your moms car is producing a lot more power.

>>14066906
Uhhh dude you really don't understand what you are trying to say here. You have some vague notion that your trying to expand but you lack the knowledge

>>14066911
but anon you said here
>>14066886
>garbage gas 4cyls my mom had when I was a kid were slow to begin with, and when you put an an adult passenger

So whats your moms old car gas or diesel.


The fact is you keep banging on about tq yet have no fucking clue what it is makes me sick.. You basing all your "knowledge" around some retard pre school level of comprehension of the concept of tq. This is why people hate black people, you are choosing to remain ignorant. You have no idea what this units of work means.

Ever stop and think about gearing? I can put insane gears in my Passat and have umm how did you put it? Ohh yeah "a car that kicks ass" but top out at 80MPH. You are an embarrassment and a walking talking example on why race mixing makes retarded kids

>>14066914
Well yeah it is, but for my city and mild highway driving, a torquey little motor just cant be beat for its low rpm power.

>>14066925
Yes, I get it, horsepower is a good thing, that's why I boogie so much in the sonata V6, but its not the 249hp I enjoy, it's the torque that throws you back in the seat when you punch it on a roll.

>>14066932
>
Also, when youv'e got torque your engine barely has to try, so you can be light on throttle and save gas.

>>14066928
Once again using words and concepts you don't understand. Gearing would make all the difference in the world for city driving.

>torquey little motor just cant be beat for its low rpm power

Yeah it can by a big american pushrod V8. By your line of thinking a corvette should be the best at city driving all that tq down low dude. Think about it man

>>14066932
>horsepower is a good thing, that's why I boogie so much in the sonata V6, but its not the 249hp I enjoy, it's the torque that throws you back in the seat when you punch it on a roll

You are a master baiter, I have't been this hooked in so long man.


>>14066935
Dude a american V8 is what you need. A nice v8 Chevy will be all the TQ you need for city driving.

>>14066939
>master baiter
I'm not trolling, i'm fucking serious, We rented some really small lightweight hyundai 1.6L car because my mom fried the starter motor form cranking it while is was running (yet im beating on it) and she found herself goig WOT just to pass other cars on the freeway, yet, when she got the old 3800LB 3.3 Liter, she barely had to press her gas to fly around others.

>>14066955
Your gonna go blind and get furry palms with all the baiting your doing. Go give your mom a call and ask her why she smoked crack while being pregnant with you because that's the only way you can be this retarded.

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>>14066965
Look of course the big ass gas engine is faster than the little gas engine, but what I didnt get was the guys talkin shit when I said I liked turbocharged 4cyls and low revving diesels.

>>14066971
Both them things have their purpose. Being peppy in city driving is not one of them for the diesels

>>14066978
Hell yeah it is, the original volkswagen rabbit diesel got 60mpg, A diesel nowdays gets artificially low mpgs because of the restrictive diesel emissions bullshit imposed on them.

>>14066984
What does MPG gotta do with peppy?

>>14066984
Also I saw a newish TDI peel the fuck out at a stop a little while ago, I was so jelly, cause the sonata will need to be brake torqued to throw down as much power as that TDI did in a second.

>>14066988
The high ass compression is what makes diesels so torquey and pull hard, and they use more energy of their fuel, meaning they squeeze more power.

I've gotta go to work, Just think about what I said about that torque, it's good shit. Keep your rpms up in that torque sweetspot and enjoy that vehicle instead of being scared of breaking the shit.

>>14061895
An Altima you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuUu3d_RMIg

>>14066446
>3500rpm
>100% beating on a car.
Nigger, do you even top speed? Modern cars have been handling abuse for years and your pussy ass is whining about 3500rpm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IqKMcyFgq8

>>14069645
Dude I dont even know why i'm here still arguing about this. Cursing at 3500RPMs just for the fun of it puts more wear on the entire engine, burns more gas, and is retarded as hell

>>14063774
The 3.5 will only be used in specialty vehicles like the GT and Raptor, the new hotness is the 3.0 ecoboost based on the 2.7

>>14069645
You mite be putting more wear on an engine but its not burning more gas, its probably burning less as the engine is probably closer to max torque where it is most efficient. Gas consumption is not related to rpms. You can burn more gas at idle then at 6k rpms if you are off throttle and coasting.

>>14069798
Well that's the thing, an engine's wear is not determined by how many revolutions it does. Look at it like this, a 40 thousand mile engine that's never had an oil change will be more worn my mom's engine with 80 thousand miles, and has always had good oil in it.

>>14062384
>believes car is on stock suspension even though its on a jack

>>14066494
3500 rpm is like 75 mph in my 1.8t