Toyota/Honda bias

honda's automatics transmissions are generally terrible. many toyota engines drink oil.

early 90s to early 00s nissans are objectively reliable. a lot of high displacement american engines like chevy/ford blocks are reliable as fuck and easy to work on.

tl;dr no, honda and toyota aren't necessarily superior. they have their issues. normies have their opinions because brand loyalty and marketing. plenty of other brands make equally or more reliable products, and plenty of toyota and honda products have shit-tier quality issues.

>tfw I'm a normie looking to buy a 95 celica rev3
>no particular reason because I don't know shit, just want it

Would you buy one /o/?

>>14049028
>A huge number of entry level Hondas/toyota a sold when compared to other car makes because honda/toyota is inexpensive, So more of them are still around simply because more had been sold.

>you can neglect the engines and not do regular oil changes and somehow they are still okay. (I went 19,000km on a single oil change in my 04 saturn vue v6 because of laziness...only thing I noticed was it wouldn't hit V-tech as well because of low oil pressure)

>compared to other cars from japan most toyota/honda body's don't rust quite as much so that helps pass safty and keep them on the road... my 1990s legacy ran like a champ after 600,000km but the body rusted out so I had to scrap it.

Most cars can see very high mileage if they are treated right but Hondas/toyotas just seem to be a bit of a snowflake when it comes to surviving neglect and abuse.

>>14049048
I'd rather an MR2 or a 300zx but those celicas usually run pretty cheap so why not

>>14049063
300zx tt was the car that claimed the life of my best childhood friend... it would blow the doors off most cars on the road and I would recommend it to anyone. amazing car. Get the 2+2 if you can it is a better car all around and can handle a engine swap much better

>>14049048
st205? do it. otherwise no. if you want cheap, fwd, and slow, get a prelude

>>14049076
I want to dd it anyways. It can be slow.

>>14049083
then go for it mate. i always liked how sixth gen celicas look.

90s subarus were god tier reliable

>implying manufacturers want realiable cars

>>14049086
Google tells me mpg is shit though. Damn it.

>>14049092
didn't ej25s eat head gaskets tho

>>14049100
mpg will be "shit" no matter what, mate. you'll probably get somewhere around 20 mixed and you wouldn't break 30 if you tried to hypermile. just find a car you like and get really, really into it.

>>14049107
But it's half that on my 2000 yaris. ;_;

>>14049112
what the hell are you doing to get 10mpg mixed in a fucking yaris?

>>14049120
HURRR DURRR I meant a little bit more than double that. Still using an mpg calc and fucked it up.

>>14049126
>pretend sports car
>toyota echo xtreme TRD special edition

there will be some differences, mate

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>>14049133
>>toyota echo xtreme TRD special edition
WANT!

>>14049158
>Toyota Echo coupe
wut is this mystical beast?

>>14049165
A shit car only americans know.

>>14049169
don't knock the echo, man. with the tercel, paseo, and echo, toyota perfected the art of shitbox.

>>14049185
The art of boring shitbox*

>>14049165
The Coupe was , for the most part American market only.
Americans got the coupe from 2000-2005.
Canadians got the coupe from 2000-2002. The coupe was replaced in Canada by the 2 door hatchback. From the B-pillars forward, the coupe is the same as the 2 door Echo/Yaris hatchback. Even the doors are interchangeable. From the B-pillars back is where it was changed.

>>14049193
what shitbox isn't boring?

"may you live in interesting times" is a classic apocryphal curse. pure shit cars aren't boring if they're constantly blowing up or constantly undriveable. that's what separates shitboxes from pure shit: boredom.

>>14049200
>what shitbox isn't boring?

A 95 celica. Most likely.

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>>14049222
Unless it's a Celica GT4, its boring. At that time, the Celica was literally a Corolla coupe.

>>14049241
Such a qt car.

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>>14049241
14th of 150 original gt fours imported to Australia, guy we just bought our house off owns it

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>>14049241
>>14049262

>>14049241
Did the corollas have double wishbone?

>>14049291
No, but you wouldn't believe how much of the chassis is interchangeable.

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>>14049038
>early 90s to early 00s nissans are objectively reliable
Your whole post is retarded

>>14049332
I'd beleive it was nearly none of it

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>>14049678
a good chunk of the floorpan and suspension parts are interchangeable. I'm sure all that's needed to install a Celica rear suspension into a Corolla is to weld in the Celica's trunk pan. seat will swap over, struts/shocks will swap over, brake parts will swap over. Hell to do a rear disc conversion on a Corolla, everything you need comes from a Celica and is a bolt-on affair. The only modification needed is to redrill the rotors for 4-lug wheels if you aren't converting to 5 lug.

>>14049028
Literally the two most overrated brands. Normies just cant into maintenance

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=enS5R8ICA9k

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiTgmp0WJHY

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>www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9WushVcYQ

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPjoWxXkYM

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bB9_UuYgcs

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8hVAL8Xto

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6GFr6LGlL4
Buzz buzz crackle

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4KvnnCQNN8

>>14050401
>>14050406
>>14050417
>>14050429
>>14050447

maybe educate yourself before posting videos of chucklefucks who can't into taking care of their cars?

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/578720-official-high-mileage-track-s2000-thread/

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_MV6iOXq5M

>>14050462
>damage control

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=0arCEHtCVsw

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAlgvooHLgI

>>14049028

In my experience, over the long haul, with the exception of fuel mileage, which may not be that big of an issue depending on how/how far you drive, there isn't anything much cheaper to run than a late 90's early 00's Buick with a 3800 and a 4T65E. A whole lot of shit would have to break on one of those to even approach the cost of an inevitable timing job, and if you maintain them aggressively, they will run well past 300k. My LeSabre had over 500k before the trans finally bought the big one and when it did, I just got another Buick.

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Mzdf7Y9rQ

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtaB3oUsVJQ
"dude I just blew my *tranny* out"

>>14050496
>>14050500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTxlVNi7UC0

>>14050509
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpHB1ltM0gY

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIQts1BA5A

>>14050496
>>14050500
>>14050517
>>14050526
STOP PUTTING A > IN FRONT OF THE LINK AND IT WILL PROPERLY EMBED YOU FUCKING RETARD!

>>14050535
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Olz4Xa7ps4

>>14050535
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6CG0Yhu5p8

>www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHgpW8cKFDA

>>14050580
>>14050567
>>14050539
All this angry cherry picking

>>14050820
All this denial

>>14051307
>Termi
>has never been right
Kek

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>>14051307
All this mad

Ive always thought Mazda was the better brand.

>>14051316
>fwd shitbox

Nice choice anon I'm sure its a really fun car

>>14051385
>being slower is fun!!!

no wonder you like american cars

>>14051406
>Driving a generic fwd faggot mobile is fun

No wonder you like hondas

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>>14051421
>so much assmad his pigfat lolcantturn rustang is slower than a family sedan

delicious butthurt

please do keep crying

>>14051406
Not all american cars are slow like the cuckstang

>>14051442
Shill for honda harder faggot

>>14051473
Shut up Termi all you do is shill for ford.

You shitpost in this unrelated thread, derail f body threads, etc.

No one cares about your "epic" horsey car

>>14051442
it's not actually faster though is it?
that time was entered in error.

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>>14051473
cry more about ford being shit faggot

>>14049092
ONLY the 2.2

>>14051502
>>14051473
Samefag

>>14051465
>>14051520
samefag

All my toyotas have been fairly trouble free

>>14049661
Mom had a 98 altima up until 2012 with little maintenance and it still ran until my sister totalled it in 2013. Fuck off.

>>14055303
>HUrrr here's one example of one car

I'm not even the guy that posted the meme but my mom had a 97 maxima. It had more problems than it was worth before 100,000 miles. Same with my dad's 98 pathfinder.

>>14049185
>tercel
Get a Prism instead.

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>>14055308
>maxima
They're known for their transmission problems, only good options are the Altima and Sentra.
Also lolSUV

>>14055313
>They're known for their transmission problems,
only the automatics

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>just bought a Fit
>people already calling it a "girl car"
this is the future I chose

>>14055367
>buys a fit
>gets called a fag

You wanted this anon

>>14049028
No but the reliable part is true for the more popular models of both.
Also honda makes some of the better ff out there. Out side of that i cant think of anything.

>>14049028
I have a '15 Ford and love it.

>easy to work on
>reliable (so far I should say)
>cheap aftermarket parts
>cheap OEM parts

Seems like the Honda/Toyota parts are a bit more expensive, and their omfg quality has gone down. Just my /o/pinion, I'm sure you faggots will disagree.

>>14053874
>>14055162
Samefag

>>14059460
>>14057136
samefag

Honda really did make GOAT FF cars with outstanding reliability. If something ever did break it's cheap to fix

How are the new civics with the 1.5 turbo and cvt? Looking for an automatic daily

Toyota has 8 of the Top 15 of Cars.com Worry Free Index of 2015:

https://www.cars.com/articles/toyota-lexus-top-carscoms-2015-worry-free-index-1420682622926/

>>14049028
I've had my '02 I35 for a few years. I'm really starting to love Nissans as much as I do with most Hondas.

>>14049074
NA Z31 ONE PLEASE HELP

>>14059942
Nu

>>14059780
Avoid it like the plague. In fact, avoid ANY car with a CVT. It's not just a meme. CVTs are notoriously unreliable transmissions.

>>14061923
What do you recommend? The corolla has a 4 speed

>>14062065
>The corolla has a 4 speed
Only absolute base models. higher trim models use a CVT.

I would look at the Scion iA instead. It uses a 6 speed automatic. Other suggestions include the Chevrolet Cruze and Sonic, Buick Regal and Verano, and Acura ILX.

I would also look at the Ford Focus. While all the above cars have proven reliable automatics, the Focus's dual clutch automatic is known for being problematic. But it's STILL more reliable than a CVT.

>>14050517
the wheel didn't fall off

>>14050509
>motor explodes, starts making terrible sounds
>lady keeps driving

priceless

>>14050509
dude youre autistic as fuck

>>14050580
>someone's gotta help me out cuz i am getting really tired of this
>nothing is actually wrong with the car

kids these days

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>>14062325
>damage control

>>14062715
What is that gif>>14049028

>>14049028
No they really aren't as good as the average normie will tell you. They're cheap and theres no shortage of them. Along with brand loyalty and marketing it just makes them sell and sell and sell.

Other imports are good. Even koreans are stepping it up recently. GM and ford have recovered well too in recent years.

Tldr theyre ok.

>>14049028
Throughout the '80s and first two-thirds of the '90s, they were consistently better than the rest in more ways than just reliability. They've lost that edge and now cruise on reputation - but you can do that as long as you're around as good as the competition. Not, like the Big 3 did for a while, if you dip below them.

>>14049059
The are snowflakes because the Hondas of the 90s had engines that could rev to 8000 RPM and were rarely taken above 4000 by the normal commuter. The auto transmissions were and still are the weak link in the system and to some degree i-VTEC.

>>14049102
just as bad as the 7mgte