Why is this even called an NSX?

because NSX stands for New Sports eXperimental not "muh feels faggotry aimed for autists"

>>14013382
Rekity rekt

>>14013382
/thread

>>14013375
Honda likes to copy others like a decade late.
>S2000 = MX5
>NSX Mk1 = Ferrari 348
>NSX Mk2 = GTR

They just use whatever previous nameplates with no contiguous theme or design target. It's just like whatever was popular 10yrs ago, that's what they copy. No integrity whatsoever.

>>14013382
Fucking rekt

>>14013463
Faster than the miata and Ferrari for their time, new Nsx is faster 0-60 than the GTR

Honda's takes the good things and improves them while keeping things reasonably priced, how is there a downside to that unless your just a insufferable cunt

>>14013486
>immediately starts benchracing
Kek
You know what I respect? People with balls. People with the gravitas and skill to break new ground and truly be innovative. You know what I don't respect? Copying an entire package, an entire spirit of something that has existed for years and has earned it's respect, and fiddling with it. Even worse, is fiddling with something successful and that isn't yours and then forcing people to pay you the extra overhead on how inefficient and indulgent your efforts at copying were. That's very offensive to me.

>>14013382
what was experiemental about the original nsx with its family sedan v6 in a pigfat mr chassis that was slower than its cheaper competition?

>>14013375
Because it's honda/acuras' luxury mid engine 'supercar' - exactly how the old nsx was, you dumb faggot

People on /o just can't fucking like anything holy shit

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>>14013523
> is fiddling with something successful and that isn't yours and then forcing people to pay you the extra overhead on how inefficient and indulgent your efforts at copying were
holy shit all this autism

>>14013525
first aluminium production car
first car with variable cam lift
>slower than its cheaper competition?
might want to give that a try again

>>14013486
>faster than the miata

To be fair it was also more expensive and the NB was basically a redressed NA chassis designed in 1989.

>>14013544
>1989-1999
That's one hell of a fucking grace period to just add VTEC

>>14013523
>spirit
This is how you can tell you dont know what youre talking about

>>14013382
Lol, op rekt

jdm is dead
tfw no 350 hp fr/mr under 3000lb to touge with
mfw i mention 90s jdm and people say muh supra

>>14013382
It probably SHOULD have been a "muh feels" car. As it stands, it's just offering the same thing the Porsche 918 except inferior in every way.

>>14014342
This, really, it wasn't going to be insane performance so why take the feels away?

>>14014342
>>14014369
It's offering the same thing as the Porsche 918 except at literally a quarter of the price. You just need to be the 1% to afford an NSX, and you need to be the 1% of THAT 1% to afford a 918.

>>14014342
>it's just offering the same thing the Porsche 918 except inferior in every way.
and 10 times cheaper nig nog

>>14014381
tfw this delusional or shills 4 honda

>>14013382
BTFO
T
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>>14013375
>Is anyone actually interested in this thing?

Yes, lots of people as it turns out.

Bringing back Acura's halo car after ten years of absence obviously has people looking forward to it, and it is still a sharp looking sports car. It's a good addition to the modern Japanese Supercar lineup that includes the late Lexus LFA and the Nissan GTR.

Not to mention that Acura needs this car badly, because their brand image has been suffering since before the recession, and many people still know Acura as Honda's luxury sport brand with old models like the Integra under its belt.

>>14013375
It's a cool car as in it looks cool but that is all. Mind you the old NSX was also modern and edgy.

>>14013382
There is nothing experimental about it. It's old news, it isn't exciting like the old NSX was.

>>14014424
This isn't the car that will bring Acura back. They needed something great, this is just ok - which is why it has been in the prototype phase for so long. They can't get the power-train right. Acura has no idea what this car should be, that's why they've changed the power-train almost five times.

>>14013375
>>AWD
Not a bad thing. E-AWD allowing torque vectoring is always good.
>>heavy
That's a hybrid system for you. It overcomes it's weight though - and would be hilariously expensive if they used advanced materials to combat that weight.
>>automatic
Who cares - you can't expect a manual hybrid in 2015, and you certainly can't expect a manual car in this price bracket.
>>twin turbo
That's not a bad thing. The rear electric motor completely negates any lag, making the lack of throttle response turbo's usually offer not much of a problem.
>>modern edgy bullshit
Eye of the beholder.

>but it isn't doing anything new (LaFerrari/918/P1/E-Tron).
First of, the E-trons are either a concept, or a plugin hybrid A3. Not new at all.
Second, yes, it doesn't try and hang with the hypercar trinity of 918/P1/LaF. But that's not a bad thing. It's cut the price of a hybrid sportscar from about a million to around 150.000 dollars. If that isn't a significant thing in itself, then I don't know what is.
>and looks nothing alike.
And it shouldn't.

Just look at the only other hybrid 2 door sportscar in the 100-200 thousand dollar range - the i8. If you can't see that the NSX is a gamebreaker in that very segment, I don't know what would make one instead.

>>14013463
GTR is true pigfat though, with nothing like torque vectoring, hybrid AWD, or torque fill to go for it.

>>14015618
>There is nothing experimental about it
Maybe about the layout, but it's all quite new to Honda, and to be quite honest, that kind of hybrid sportscar, at that pricepoint, is a new thing for the entire consumer market as well.
>Acura has no idea what this car should be
They had a clear idea, a FR V10 sportscar (probably LFA meets S2000), but than the financial crisis hit, forcing them back to a midmounted V6. They wanted to stay transverse, but they wanted more power, and turbo packaging on a transverse V6 is a nightmare. So al in all, they went through three drivetrain layouts:
>Front-mid engined V10
>hybrid, naturally aspirated transverse V6
>hybrid, twinturbo longitudinal V6

>>14015679
(cont.)
The thing I'm worried about most is driver feedback. Apparently, with how the thing currently drives, Senna would be rolling around furiously in it's grave. The torque vectoring works great, the chassis and suspension is highly adaptible, the rear electric motor fills the turbo lag great, the gearbox works good - but driver feedback is bad, according to a few reviews.

Problem is that they went full drive-by-wire, with regenerative braking to boot. They've got about a year to sort it all out, and maybe they can implement some software changes after that ( a la Tesla) to make sure the driver involvement becomes great. Fortunately, the basics are there - adaptible suspension, a great chassis etc. - it's just a matter of finetuning it. Let's hope they succeed.

Also, I'm a bit worried. If you can squeeze 400hp out of a turbo'd K20, how much power are the Honda fanboys going to squeeze out of a twinturbo 3.5L V6? Will we be seeing 1000hp AWD NSX'es at that same 3800lbs kerb weight?

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literally the only bad thing is that it doesnt have Vtec

>>14015700
there are 1000+ hp k26 engines out there

>>14015707
So, if the transmission holds, we could be looking at some tuner swaggot spending 50 grand on daddy's NSX, getting well over 1000hp?

NSX
>back to front Accord
>not fast

New NSX
>actual engineering
>great value

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>>14013463
>The first-generation NSX prototype debuted in 1989 at the Chicago Auto Show (February)

>The Ferrari 348, in tb and ts forms, made its debut at the 1989 Frankfurt Auto Show (September)

hmmm

>>14015715
probably, perhaps some texas mile tuner will get its hand on it, people like AMS and alpha omega are making 2000 hp out of 4 liter stroked GTRs

you can already get 1000+ hp out of a honda j series v6, its of course very expensive, google bisimoto odyssey

>>14015725
>old NSX
>not fast

it was the fastest japanese car until the R35 GTR appeared

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>>14013538
>might want to give that a try again
okay

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>>14015744
http://fastestlaps.com/tests/3ceh6h1pg6v0
>Notes: opposite direction
nice try tho

dontr try with the rz7, they cant even finish a lap around the ring nevertheless do one in less than 8 minutes

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>>14015754
>nsxr
>1:04.95 at tsukuba
cute

>opposite direction
so? its still the same length

>>14015764
>type R RX-7
>ndf at nurburgring

and before you go "muh evo", those are 30 seconds slower around the ring
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

>so? its still the same length
stop being stupid senpai

>>14015779
>lol look at this track where the rx7 doesnt have a lap time!
sry id rather look at best motoring time attacks =)

>1995 eastern creek 12 hours
>rx7 1st and 4th
>nsx 5th
lel

>>14013463
Yeah and the MX5 was just a better version of the Lotus Elan. Nothing wrong with taking something and making it better and more desirable.

>>14013375
I know for a fact the deep pocket Instagram famous stancefags are going to buy them, and stance them, and put fender flares on them.

It's literally the only market for this car

>>14013463
>being surprised that a culture that revolves around imitation is copying designs

It's the same as the Lexus fags that think their fucking cars are hot shit, when Mercedes made the same car 3 years before.

JDM fags are fucking beyond delusional

>>14015843
Except that one time Lexus made the LS400, Mercedes and BMW collectively shat their pants, and got ahead of the game again.

>>14015727
>The original performance target for the NS-X was the Ferrari 328, which was revised to the 348 as the design neared completion.

hmmmmmm that's what I get for trying to be nice to the Honda and mentioning only the more modern Ferrari instead of explicitly stating that Honda took so long with their copying that they had changed the copy model from the 1985 328 to the concurrently developed Ferrari 348. But now that you've prompted me to make this statement, I'll make sure to explicitly mention, in honour of the copying, that Honda also LOVES COPYING OTHERS CONCURRENTLY DEVELOPED CONCEPTS TOO while using their Accord profits to match/beat them to market. True snakes. No integrity, no honor.
No shame either since they so much Accord profit money to hire online shills to brainwash and hammer "Honda" into unsuspecting anons heads, like every other scumbag Jew automoaker who cares only about profits, publicity and PR than motoring.

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>>14015843
mercedes cars are fucking garbage tho

>>14016928
>all this autism

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>>14013375
2 tonnes is light weight nowadays?

>>14015700
It really isn't new for a company that has been producing hybrids for a long time now.

They can't keep waiting to produce this car because every couple of years a new trend introduces itself
>originally wanted to offer a cheaper LFA
waited too long for that. Honestly they could still release a V10 with great sales figures, but they won't because it goes against the companies values.
>hybrid 6 AWD
On paper this is great. Wonderful, and amazing. But tick tock, we've been waiting for a while. Buzz dies down and people move on.

>>14013375
Forgot "designed in Ohio"
Why the fuck would the most legendary Japanese exotic super car be designed in Ohio. Fucking Ohio. Any state would have been better than Ohio. I would've rather seen a Texas NSX than an Ohio NSX. FUCK

It should have been this. V10, front engine, naturally aspirated, fairly lightweight, drivers car and released in 2010. Instead we get a hybrid GTR. There is nothing wrong with a hybrid GTR, I'm sure it will be very fast, but there is something wrong with a hybrid GTR being the NSX.

>>14017188
>"designed in Ohio"
except it was not

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>>14016928
>rambling incoherent damage control

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>>14017188
Forgot pic

>>14017191
The entire team was based in Ohio. The only thing not designed in Ohio was the engine.

>>14017194
>a doorstop
Genius!