What are some of the things that go out in old bmws? Can the

>>13973345
Honda's can do PS delete with no problem because theyre tin cans

Bimmers are much heavier so a PS delete probably wouldnt be that sweet and make parking impossible

Depends what BMW. If you're referring to an e36 like what's pictured, the interiors are notoriously shoddy quality and fall apart.

Uh on old BMW's? VANOS needs to be kept in tip-top shape. If you have an SMG, then the hydraulic pump needs to be kept in tip top shape. The rear of the chassis can also just... rot away.

Old beat up BMW's are fucking shit, mate. They'll drive like shit too - if you don't replace all the bushings and metal-fatigued parts, it is NOT going to be the "ultimate driving machine" like it was when it was new. A 200k, 10+ year old BMW? Better forget about it unless you're looking for a garage queen project car that's going to suck in all your money.

I have a 2000 E39 540i and it's one of the most reliable cars I've owned. That being said, I have to spend 5000$ if I want it to stop sounding like a fucking diesel. Get something else.

>>13973347
Go fuck yourself
not all hondas are tin cans
my honda is 3,000 pounds
Go
Fuck
Your
Self

>>13973345
I have a 1991 BMW 850
got it for my first car years back
literally nothing has gone wrong with it all this time

>>13973371
fuck you dumbass.youre CRV was not what i was talking about

every honda pre EK has a PS delete because racecar

>>13973386
ek and before is what i meant

>>13973386
Go fuck yourself.
I dont drive a CRV, go hang yourself on your petard

>>13973399
so you drive a seventh gen or above. thats cute

how does it feel the 10 year old version of your car is faster and more fun to drive

>>13973401
>7th gen or above
Nope.

>>13973406
what do you drive then? a primer gray 4 door eg?

because now you just sound like a retard

>>13973417
prelude sh

OP here. the model i'm interested in is the 328i coupe.

>>13973447
Worthless.
Get the 850

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>>13973451
>V12

>>13973451
why is it worthless? i thought it was just a baby m3.

>>13973353
i was thinking of using fcpeuro for the control arm kit and various bushings. it doesn't look like it comes up to anything high. i was also thinking maybe i could get a bmw with a blown transmission for dirt cheap and then put in a semi new one for like 400 bucks. that way it's not gonna have 200k of wear while still being cheap.

bimp

>>13973345
Literally everything

>>13973511
>baby m3.
>328i

Maybe a 330 yeah

>>13973787
isnt 330 pigfatter

>>13973787
there is no e36 330i

>>13973511
it isnt worthless
with some not very expensive mods it can be a u.s spec m3

>>13973345

People bang on BMWs without owning one.

They are quality. But stuff will break as it will in any car of that age. I have a 2006 (so 9 years) old E60 5 series and it drives like new. I don't know what will happen in 5 years time but I don't think it's going to be any worse than any other car. 10 year old BMWs drive much better than new shitboxes (mazda 3, civic). Now 20 year old BMWs - I don't know about that, but I guess it shouldn't be that bad. Why not buy a 2001 E46 or something semi-modern like that? The interior of 20 year old cars I think gets that dirty feel to it, if it has been used a lot.

>>13974140
>why not buy a more expensive car i dont understand

10/10 make sure your trust fund check comes in on time bro

>>13973345
>can i just do a ps delete and call it a day?

Racks designed for PS vs manual racks typically have different ratios.

As a result, a PS rack that isn't being powered will be much harder to turn than a straight up manual rack in the same car. Wouldn't really advise using a non-powered PS rack, to do it properly buy a manual rack.

>>13973345
As much as people on /o/ shit on BMW, the only real problems with them are the cooling

OP here again. so i'm wondering if i should get a used manual e36, or try to get some automatic that has a blown transmission for super cheap then swap it out for one that's new. how hard is this to do on your own?

or would it be better to just get one that already has a manual transmission and simply swap out gears if they're battered? i'm just wondering which is the more cost effective route.

blump

>>13973351
No they don't. They just creak.

>>13973353
Vanos is a 20 minutes job every 100k.

>buy a car with an smg from the late 90s early 2000s
youd be retarded to buy a tiptronic/smg/hydromatic bullshit transmission from any manufacturer of that era.

>rear subframe falls off
on a select range of e46's which was covered by recall and is easily fixable.

>They'll drive like shit too - if you don't replace all the bushings
That's literally every car.

>that's going to suck in all your money
the parts arent expensive


the steering on the e36 is amazing. one of the best things about the car is that rack. deleting power steering on a daily driver is just a retarded thing to do in general.

>>13976783
im just wondering what it'd be like since i've heard that it helps at high speeds, and to also shave weight off.

timing related shit
cooling systems
rubber and plastics
ps leak
valve cover leak
brake fluid leak

>>13976160
>>13976121
having one with manual already will be easier if you're not very mechanically inclined.

I dd an e30, and consider swapping out the trans for manual. I have yet to find one decently priced along with being able to get a driveshaft. There's tons of write ups on e36 forums I bet

theres also other things you need to buy when doing manual swap so do your research

>>13976783
Uh no, there is no recall anymore. its been over for a while...

>>13977119
if i ordered that list through fcp euro and bought a 200k 328i without a ton of rust would it be worth it

>>13973345

plastic cooling systems. No.

/thread

>>13977265
the pump? the tubing? the harness?

>>13977302
Water pumps were plastic so you need to replace that shit ASAP. Though chances are its been replaced already since they failed really early.

Also just replace some hoses in general if they look old.

>>13977413
The impeller was plastic not the entire pump.. and you only need to replace it every 60k on the safe side. They fail around 80k.

>>13977139
No shit.. hence the 'was' in the sentence. That means past tense.
The point is it was recalled and most people who had issues had it done. It's as easy as looking under the car with a flash light.

>A 20 year old car will need some work to get back to it's former glory
Wow, /o/ is full of amazing information.

Not OP, but anyone know if an E34 530i with 157.000 miles on it, inline six and automatic transmission would be worth the bother? Assuming it's passed MOT and all that.

>>13977427
Fuck yes it is! The 530 and 535 had the M30 engine which is pretty powerful and is regarded as the best engine BMW has ever made, both for its performance and its reliability.

>>13977430
Thanks, anon. I've been on the fence about it, because I don't want to get fucked by a high-mileage car that'll suddenly puke its guts up at me. I've heard they're easy enough to wrench on, but anything to watch out for in regards to wear and tear? Apart from the cooling system, that is.

>>13977447
Other than the cooling system, nothing really comes to mind. Maybe make sure the hoses connected to the power steering are alright though since I had an issue with those (new hose for $25 plus new clamp and problem solved).

I honestly can't fault them in any other way, they've earned they're reputation as being the best car they ever built.

>>13977453
I must've mixed it up. I know there were to inline 6s, was the other the 525? I at least know the 520 was the awful M20 engine.

>>13977453
In communist Denmark it's an I6. We don't get nice things like the Germans and Americans. No dreams; only taxes. There's a reason we all eat giggle pills like candy.

>>13977458
>>13977461
I just wiki'd after the post. There is (as second quote says) an I6. Now I wasn't sure. Didn't say it was limited production of any kind, so I have no idea and deleted in shame and wrongness.

Oh hell, I just wish they had the 35 in the touring. Fuck BMW for some retarded decisions like that.

>>13977465
>tfw my country didn't get touring versions of the E34 or E39

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>>13977469
That's...dumb. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>13977473
we also never got ANY 3 series touring models. i didnt even know they existed till i saw pics of some one day. i think current 3 series exist in tourings here but E36s, E46s and all the 3 series before never had touring models here.

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>>13977481
>have loads of preorders for a touring M5
>decide against money

BMW, seriously...

>>13977465
That would have been a sexy beast to be sure. I don't know why, but those older, German wagons make it hard to contain my boner. Like the W124 wagon.

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>>13977489
>tfw the 8 series cabrio never went into production

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>>13977492
I've driven the sportline 5-speed manual W124 E320T. What a fantastic engine. Too bad it had next to no service records, otherwise I'd have bought it.

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>>13977496
Personally, I find that hideous. But then, there are hardly any convertibles I like.

>4 seater convertibles
All of my disgust.

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>>13977509
Even the prototype E34 M5 convertible?

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e36 as a project car?
Literally the most crap car BMW has ever made. They rot away behind the fenders, in the wheels wells, underbody rots away, the trunk fills up with water and falls out, the interior is hyundai tier. Yeah, it drove nice when it was new and the engines are pretty good, but the e36 is a fucking bastard. My E30 wasnt the best example of the breed, but jesus fuck, id didnt have 70% rust and suspenion issues of E36 ive seen and drove (around 8 in total, 4 and 6 cyl diesel and petrol, various states). The E36 has so many plastics pieces of shit all around so inevitably salt builds up, shit cant be cleaned properly and it just fucking rots away. The rear sills are a fucking joke. You cant lift most e36`s without bending them and or puncturing the already fucked up floor. The CAD design and built by robots shit didnt work that time. E30 arent perfect, but if you check the fucking moonfroof drain pipes its damn near faultless (rusty floor and firewall averted). Also the boot pockets can be a bit icky if the seal on the rear lamp takes a shit, buts its dead easy to notice and repair. E36 are for drift-wannabees who need that dope stance and to crash POS in the nearest ditch. And fucking leave it there.
Just buy a E30 or an E46, the e36 is just bad.

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>>13977513
Yes. Almost all look like deformed boats.

>>13977519
oh, and the steering rack on e36 leaks like a fucking north korean submarine.

>>13977525
>Almost all look like deformed boats.
Cannot unsee now.

>>13977526
>>13977519
>i had one bad E36 and that means all of them are bad

I've had one, my friend had one and my gf had one. No rust, no power steering problems, no suspension problems and no water in the boot. Two are still running and one was wrecked in a car accident.

Now i wanna strip a bimbim and drive it lime mad what do

>>13977563
Lay off the alcohol, get some good sleep and try to type again tomorrow.

>>13977537
I`ve had no E36`s, only a E30 (in winter slumber).
My friends have had and still have E36 in various conditions and in various spec. One due bought a winter beater for 300 euros and it had atlaest 12 rust holes. The engines is good, the suspenion holds up ok, the shifter is obviously crap (reverse kek, who needs it), but the body derelict. Ive seen abused and neglected Mazdas and Golfs, even Ladas left to rot in a field didnt have much rust damage.
Here where there is salt on the roads and the people dont want shell out the money a E36 requires to keep it good state, they take beating of the average moron driver much worse than an E30.
Would never DD a E36. Saw a 328 touring with LPG for 2.5k, would love to DD it, but if i`m planning on keeping it for while, I basically need to strip and the underside and remove fenders to rust proof it and fix the inevitable rust holes. Winter salt sucks.

>>13977573
>I`ve had no E36`s

Stopped reading right there. Literally.

>>13973353
>having a bmw with PANOS

>>13973353
>old car
>if you don't replace wear at tear parts, it'll not drive like new

Genius. I would have NEVER got that idea myself.

>>13973378
>He owns a German v12

Enjoy your loan when the engine needs servicing.

>>13977613
The V12 engines themselves are not that bad. The problem with the 850 is that it has electronic everything modules twice. Which tend to fail.
The engine itself is pretty reliable, even its own electronics, as long as you keep an eye on oil and cooling.

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>>13977618
Now Merc V12s on the other hand....they can be a nightmare.

Is the boomboom a good rallying mobile? Im looking for a fun way to get to work.

>>13977668
fwd shitboxes are the best start to rally

>>13977425
that's not what he's saying. he's saying compared to a 20 year old Japanese car it's way more work to keep even running, forget mint condition.

>>13977759
Im not rallying in a straight line though>>13977759

>>13977849
clueless retard detected

>>13973368
>2000 E39 540i

Feels good that my 540i will never sound like a diesel

Pre vanos engine is the better engine.

>>13973368
>>13977935
the vanos repair is relatively simple to DIY and the replacement parts cost like 40$. . .

>>13977427
E34 530 = 3 liter aluminum v8 with massive nikasil/alyusil problems. Stay away unless your are very competent.

E39 530 = m54 straight 6, go ahead they are g2g

>>13978317
any alusil problems already been sorted by now.
that said fuck that shit get the 535 with dat dere M30

>>13977643
>>13977618
The BMW, Mercedes and Jaguar V12's are all very reliable by themselves, the problem is the sistems around them. Jaguar V12's suffer from all that 70's emission control crap, Mercedes from biodegradable wiring that has both digital and analog channels, BMW's from overly sensitive ecu computers.

My uncle drives a 20 year 520i e39 bmw with more than 200 000 miles on it daily and hasn't had any major problems. I wouldn't vouch for any newer BMW's though, particularly those infamous N47 diesels.

Basically, the lower the spec probably the better off you are.

Why is there so many butthurt BMW hating faggots on this board?

Old BMWs are wonderful cars and have typically been treated really well if you're grabbing them off the first owner.

>>13978326
I've owned 5, and bought another a month ago. You don't have to tell me lol

>>13978338
They hate us cause they ain't us

>13974028
sir i need you to elaborate. what kind of mods?

>>13979597

>>13974028

>>13979597
there is a local e36 328 making about 230 hp and 330nm, it's got an M50B25 intake manifold, custom air filters, ecu tune, lightened flywheel, a 68mm throttle body, coilovers and some weight reduction so it easily can take on a u.s spec e36 m3

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>>13973345
Got a late-1996 (manufactured) e36 328i coupe, Manuel tranny, 170k clicks (about 110k miles)

Replaced:
-Drive shaft's giubo/flex disc
-While at it, all the shifter linkage bits that wear out, because the linkage actually dropped down enough that it was rubbing the new flex disc (thankfully I checked for drive shaft vibrations before fully installing/torquing everything!)
-Clutch slave cylinder
-Radiator and hoses (old, brittle plastic and rubber...)
-HVAC Final Stage Unit (pricey!). If I needed to, I could've bypassed it with wires and a switch and have it either off or on at max speed only
-Air conditioner relay, because it can fail when it's this old, and I like air conditioner. The one I had was still functioning fine though
-DIY-fixed the little resistor on the HVAC's computer. Not one issue so far

Now, a few things: the linkage bits can be a little hellish because there's a ridiculously stiff circular spring holding two parts together, and there's almost no room to wrestle a flat-head screwdriver into the little groove/hole you need to, but besides that, everything's been quite alright
And of course, everything made out of rubber/plastic which is subject to heat and/or sun is brittle as hell and might need replacement, which I kind of expect for a vehicle nearly twenty years old

I love the engine/transmission combo, and despite the nonexistent bushings and busted shocks, the car is surprisingly nice to drive/hoon with

Change the brake fluid. I'd say yearly, or every two years max if you can't be bothered. After you've bled all four corners, find a nice slippery surface to activate the ABS a few times to try and circulate that old fluid as well. Bleed the brakes again, and you're done!

I've had several BMWs over the years. They are great cars as long as you keep up on them. Neglect it or buy a beat up one and it can turn into a money pit quickly!

Not much comes to mind that hasn't already been said (cooling systems are very weak, shitty old plastic pieces, mainly in the COOLING SYSTEM, some have wiring issues).

One thing to keep in mind though, the window regulators go bad on these cars too. Don't think that was mentioned yet

>>13978338
Either from bad experiences such as buying a shitty one or just plain old memeing.