Are these worth it? The numbers look pretty weak for a sports-styled sedan, aside from the incredible MPG. Also, FWD. (Unless I'm luckily wrong on that?) What does /o/ think?
nope. cant see the appeal. id buy a focus st
>>13934104
>those fender flares
>>13934120
why do so many cars have that?
>>13934144
"aggressive"
>>13934104
For the price you can get the fully optioned Kia Forte 5.
>>13934144
why do some cars lift the exact same shape of fender flare from one car and put it on another?
>>13934161
fuck if i know. does the jetta have it too?
>>13934158
but then you have to maintain a kia
>>13934169
dont they have some kind of 100k warranty?
>>13934179
not for a shit driving experience in a penalty box
>>13934179
They do have a long warranty. And their quality is much better now. My gf has a 2014 Kia Forte. It's surprisingly good. It's been reliable so far, it has decent pep for its class, gets good mileage (she averages between 30-40 mpg depending on how much city she does) and it was a good price. It seems that Kia has really stepped up their game with their newer cars.
>>13934189
beasted
>>13934208
thats great news.
>>13934208
>And their quality is much better now.
Than what, before? Because the bar was pretty low, Kim Yi-Sook.
Back looks retarded.
>>13934169
I have a first gen forte with 90k miles and has been running 20 psi for the past 60k miles.
Maintaining a Kia is the same as maitaining a civic.
Honda isn't the honda's of the 80's their car quality is equal to that of the Hyundai and kia.
Only Toyota has kept their quality and that because they have churned out the same car year after year with minor face lifts.
also
>Buying the first generation of a car with a turbo from a company with no experience in turbos.
>>13934306
http://www.optimaforums.com/forum/6-optima-engine-technical-discussion/44529-2014-optima-sx-turbo-needs-its-3rd-engine.html
>>13934313
Honda had one where the engine was leaking coolant because the engine block had a cracked weld down the back of each block, which instead of issueing a repair order they just increased everyones warranty by 50k miles.
Hyundai/kia actually put a recall order out to swap the engines on those cars who had the crank shaft particles from their new manufacturing process.
>>13934353
Ask anyone if they would rather have a Honda or a Kia see what they say
Hondas are nothing like they used to be.
I can't believe their reputation didn't die 10 years ago, let alone that it's still going strong today.
>>13934104
>Incredible MPG
>28 MPG
Don't kid yourself
>>13934104
Honda has already done a tourer that does close to 100mpg. The car that OP posted seems utterly useless.
>>13934104
What is it with autism/o/ hating on FWD? Too much watching 6fast6furious or too much playing vidya?
>>13934306
Toyota can make amazing new engines and cars but we're near the point where internal combustion is obsolete so you may think Toyota is just milking money off of older platforms as much as they can but they'll have the next generation of zero emission cars ready for all consumers when the time comes.
>>13935982
>we're near the point where internal combustion is obsolete
Citation needed.
>>13935982
Can make.
But dont. Haven't they been using the same engine in the corolla for pretty much ever just with minor tweaks
>>13934782
>making up numbers
literal idiot
>>13935955
Because steering a FWD car feels like steering a boat with two wheels in the back?
>>13937087
Driving your mom's a-b corolla is a good source, meanwhile new type R destroys your car