Why do most modern cars have to be FWD NOFUNALLOWED

Fwd isn't a bad thing though

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>bitching about FWD

FWD is fine, it's a lot of fun to throw a car around.

what is killing modern cars are CVT's.

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More economical, more interior space

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>>13876798
What can men do against such reckless faggotry

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they're cheaper to produce, and normies don't care / know the difference.
why would car companies throw more money at something when they can get away with doing it the cheap way?

>>13876796
>>13876798
I want reddit to leave.

>less weight
>Less moving parts, less shit to break, better fuel economy
>Cheaper to produce

I still fuckin' hate FWD though. RWD master race.

>>13876791
Why the fuck isn't the Corolla typeS RWD is a better question

>>13876802
These are basically the only advantages. You have FF fags going all sour grapes with "M-MUH FF IS FUN Y-YOU BENCHRACERS" but it will always be worse for performance compared to a RWD counterpart.

That and FWD always wants me to understeer into a tree when the ground is slightly wet.

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>>13876831
>These are basically the only advantages. You have FF fags going all sour grapes with "M-MUH FF IS FUN Y-YOU BENCHRACERS" but it will always be worse for performance compared to a RWD counterpart.

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>>13876813
Go back to reddit
FWD had good and bad, it BTFO RWD I'm some sports and RWD BTFO FWD in some sports , pretending otherwise is just pure reddit

>>13876842
>defending FWD
>not reddit
one fwd car beat a lot of rwd cars, with the help of a lot of tech to compensate for it's ff layout. good for it. doesn't make fwd superior.

>>13876791
Mazda will be our savior against fwd shitboxes. Just you wait, the next gen Mazdas will be rwd. Nay sayers will be forgiven, as Mazda is a forgiven based god.

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>>13876840
>I'm too retarded to form a counterargument and legitimately believe a reaction image is a proper substitute

See, I can do it too.

>>13876868
>he thinks I was talking about that fwd car specifically
Reddit please

I know it's insane to you but some people find the drag strip boring

>>13876881
alphonse you forgot your name

>>13876900
Man are you really this upset about your FWD shitbox not being a sports car?

>>13876885
please enlighten me then, fag

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>>13876885
REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT


We've been over this, /o/, we have a fucking prelude next to the 3 series on the sticky. Good cars are good, regardless of drivetrain. I still prefer RWD because muh skidz, but I'd enjoy flogging a well set up fwd.

>>13876974
I love preludes. but I will not stand for this FWD shilling.

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WHY U HEFF TO BE MAD? IT'S ONLY FWD! THEY'RE GOOD CARS!

>>13876982
>shilling
>cars that /o/ has always recommended
For fucks sake

>>13876904
If sports car = good handling
And the best handling cars of their time were the integra r and prelude sh
Then they are sports cars

There are many FWD cars that are classified as sports cars

>>13876798
What's wrong with CVT? My car is a cvt (2010 lancer vrx) and i rather like the way it handles, feels responsive enough. Can always use semi-automatic with paddle-shifters or shift-gate on the transmission itself. Otherwise it's a decent experience to drive and being able to use minimal throttle yet have a reasonable amount of acceleration to get you up to speed from a stop is nice, also extremely easy to keep a speed once you get up to speed just throttle back and it more or less will sustain the speed, likewise for highway driving. Perhaps on really small engines it doesn't work well, but i have no problem with the 2.4l engine in my car, it seems fast enough for my daily driving.

>>13876988
If you habe ever driven a manual or a good standard auto, you'd understand. The constant slipping feeling sucks. Also there's the shit reliability.

>>13876983
You ever think you're going too far?
Why do you have to be so downright mean to your fellow human beings?
You could improve someone's day, buy instead you just opt to make everyone feel like shit .

>>13877016
He's not "mean" in the slightest, he just gets his kicks by pretending to be a complete idiot.

>>13877023
I know how this sounds since this is 4chan
But he honestly hurts my feelings.
What kind of human does this?

>>13877034
Stop it man please.
Why does it have to be this way....

>>13877034
I realize I worded that incorrectly, he gets his rocks off by being a general ass that ruins every thread he posts in.

>>13877034
>comparing yourself to an exploding shitbox corvette
accurate
if one car represents alfonse it's the corvette

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I have a Fiesta. I hate knowing I'm driving a fwd car. And the fact that it's a 4 door is even worse. Plus it's a tiny 1.6 liter 4 banger. The only cool thing about it is it's manual. I really want a rwd, 2 door, manual, 6 or 8 cylinder car. Like a cheap C4 LT1 Corvette 6-speed.

>>13877002
I have driven both a manual and a standard auto. There is no real slipping feeling, rather 'rubber banding' as people say, and you get used to it. The overall smoothness of it as a general drive is nice, there's no having the engine rev up loudly then back down as it goes through the gears, you can make it rev higher if you want to get up to speed faster or just gradually get up to speed (which it does plenty fast anyways), rather it sits at a middle-range rpm and gets up to speed. It can be a very smooth drive overall. I've driven both my lancer and my sisters' holden (chevy) cruze, 1.8l automatic. It's an alright drive but I just prefer the much quieter overall drive of the cvt in terms of engine noise. Also so far i have 54,000km on the car with no issues with my transmission, got the car second hand at 33,000km. It hasn't ever given me any issues and i make sure to regularly check the oil, fluids etc.

>>13877049
Why?
Kill yourself

>>13876869
I really can't see that. Mazda has a history of making front wheel drive cars, I don't see why they'd go to rear wheel drive suddenly

>>13877050
Oh god you have one of those ones that holds the revs at peak torque? Hope you enjoy getting that transmission serviced fairly often.

>>13877053
Just bored/tired. You are the worst kind of poster, a completely immature cunt that seeks only to destroy any hope of a good thread.

>>13877053
Please stop man.
I am assmad, why is it a bad thing to feel emotions and genuinely care about things and people in this cold world
Why do you enjoy making everyone negative
Why can't we be friends and just talk about cars
It's all I want

>>13877054
Why what?

>>13877070
Just stop replying to him. Tell anyone who does to do the same. It's obvious he feeds off of attentuon, deny him it completely. Zero replies. Don't complain when he bumps his shitpost threads. Don't say anything. Ignore him and he will fade away.

That is how you beat them. It's easy, all you have to do is nothing.

>>13877070
You're just making him reply even more. It's actually kind of fascinating watching the rise and fall of shitposting trip/namefags on /o/ over the years. He'll just be forgotten like all the others.

>>13877059
Yeah it's the style that holds revs at peak torque i would think. It's a bit annoying to drive during rainy weather as front tires tend to lose grip easily on takeoff hence traction control always has to kick in. Well I have what I have, the belt for the engine (i assume it was alternator due to the description) was replaced by mitsubishi at the beginning of the year due to a recall. As long as it will last me a few years (i drive fairly minimally, and a family friend is an auto-mechanic who said he will help teach me car maintenance and with servicing). He's a hell of a lot cheaper (works for mercedes) and does work on my fathers ml 500, he charges next to nothing for the work. Recently he replaced the oil sump and a few other things for 250 dollars including parts, which would have cost over 600 had my father taken it in to the dealership. The spark-plugs alone for the car were 800 dollars (excluding labor) when they had to be changed over (16 spark-plugs, 2 per cylinder).

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>F-FWD is bad guise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OycNxh7ot8

>>13877109
Just stop
Why can't you stop
I just want humanity
I just want proof I'm not alone in this world
I came here after buying my first car, LS400
but everyone here just seems determined to hate every car
Nobody talks about projects or anything
I just want friends to talk cars with
I just want friends

>>13877128
chill desu, also stop replying. filter him or something.
>but everyone here just seems determined to hate every car
welcome to /o/.

I like ls400's tho senpai, I wanted one but couldn't find one not molested in my area. and more people hate my car than your car desu. even (especially) casuals hate my car.

>>13877169
What's your car

>>13877173
crown victoria

>>13877183
I like it :3

>>13877187
thanks senpai

>>13877109
Then they should hide the thread.

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>Rwd handles so much better than fwd

>>13879047
Oh boy the FFbabbies are cherrypicking nonsense again

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>fwd cant take corners as well as rwd

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>only real drivers have rwd

>>13879061
Once again your cherry picked pictures are on par with anti-Z06 shitposting. Keep telling yourself your 93 civic is a sports car though

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>Rwd always beats fwd on turns

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>>13879047
>>13879061
>>13879070
>he actually believes this is proof fwd is better than rwd

>>13879076
it's as cherry picked and conveniently ignoring facts as your argument :3

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>fwd isnt even fun

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>fwd guys are just jealous of my turns

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>I can take turns so much faster because of rwd

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>>13879047
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>>13879092
*yawn*

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>fwd guys are so delusional

>>13879103
You're like a cruel device
Your blood is cold like ice
Poison for my veins, I'm breaking my chains

>>13877081

Alphonse is the worst tripfag on this damn board

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>FWD betas on damage control

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>>13879047
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>>13879103

being this upset some people on a Chinese image board made fun of your FWD car

>>13877109

>fame
>imblying anyone cares about you

11/10 joke Alphonse

>>13879114
One look and you could kill
My pain now is your thrill
Your love is for me

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Rwd fags mad cause their cars cant turn.

>>13879208
>RWD can't turn
Where did this meme come from?

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>>13879208

>>13879208
RWD can't get dick, unlike your FWD. you must really be happy about that huh.

>>13879225
assblasted fwd fags that are mad they cant drift or have any sort of fun with their econoboxes

>>13879242
oh c'mon dude you're not even trying

>>13876791
>needing a special layout to have fun.

>>13879243
>oh no theyre making fun of my cars shortcomings
>better dismiss it as a troll
whatever helps you sleep at night bucko

>>13879245
>he thinks he can have fun in a FWD

go to bed shingo

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>all this fucking butthurt

KEK

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>>13879208

lel this damage control.

>not being able to have fun in any wheel drive cars

Source: ive owned FWD RWD and AWD

>all fun

>>13879265
you have discovered the bitter truth anon

fun cars are fun

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>>13879242
>I love drifting, you cant drift with fwd

>>13879251
trying too hard

>>13879269
theres something really satisfying and relieving in this image

>>13879267

>cars are fun

Fixed for you

>>13879208
as a FWD owner and enthusiast. you, my friend, are positively, retarded.

>>13879375

You my friend, are positively retarded.

>>13879163
MR2, the psychotic carfu.

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>>13879103
>>13879208
>HEY GUYS IF A CAR CRASHES THAT MEANS IT HANDLES BADLY

10/10 lol

>>13879403
anon please

>>13879245
Well I'd prefer to play games with a controller or a mouse over a laptop trackpad. I prefer to use things that are more conducive to fun/performance. RWD happens to work better for most of these fun things in driving.

>>13877114
>$50 per spark plug

Yeah, I don't care what kind of car it is, he got ripped the fuck off. It doesn't even cost that much to replace them in a ford triton V8 when you have to repair every spark plug hole. Your father is a god damn retard.

But so are you for liking CVT. You should both hang yourselves together, to save you from anymore embarrassment.

>>13877050
>I have driven a [good] auto
>I've driven my sister's Chevy Cruze
No, the shit Chevy Cruze doesn't count as a good auto, or a good car for that matter. Drive an SRT392 Charger or a 2014+ IS350/RC350/RC-F/IS-F. Those are good torque converter automatics.

>>13876791
>cheap
>understeer is easier to handle for people who can't drive well
>cheap
>packaging reasons

>>13879592
oversteer is for people who can't drive well

>>13879596
What are you trying to say?
There are people who refuse to drive RWD cars because they think they'll immediately die as soon as it rains.

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>>13876987
>integra / prelude
>sports cars
>lel

>>13876791
> FWD isn't fun

It's lighter, so better power to weight ratio.
Handling is sharp as fuck. Turn wheel, stomp throttle, go.
Lift-off oversteer is fun as fuck, and easily snapped out with a good boot of throttle.
Trays under the rear wheels, handbrake on, go drifting.
Small cars and small engines rev like crazy, so you get to feel like a racing driver as you pound up through the gears to hit 5th at about 50. Then you skip gears on the way down, whack it into a corner, and accelerate hard out of it without the rear wheels spinning.
And it's cheaper. Go buy an old FWD hatchback sometime and throw it around. Abuse the shit out of it because it doesn't matter to you. I promise you, it'll be fun as fuck.

>>13880105
You forgot
>Less drive train losses = more whp
>teaches you to actually choose perfect lines so you won't understeer off the road. Oversteer RWD babby's can't understand because they power over to get out of their line mistakes.

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>>13880197

nobody cares
fwd sucks
it sucks
its bad
its bad
its ba d
its bad
seirously
it ahs to be bad
it HAS to be bad
please
it has to be bad

>>13880183
That too. Although traction control can go a long way to fixing your lines.

And, frankly, some FWD setups are just shit. My old Astra once tried to understeer me into a truck on a wet roundabout. Had to kick the brakes (hard, because no power assist) to get grip back and actually turn.

>>13876829

because its a fucking corolla

>>13880233
which fwd setup is good

>He thinks RWD is good for anything besides show skidding

You do realize this ain't Tokyo Drift/Initial D right?

The whole inertia drift is only gonna cost you time.

>>13880239
bullshit
that's bullshit
drifting is a time saving maneuver around corners, you dont have to slow down

>>13880239
what championship are you racing in?

Bump because rwd fags got btfo

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Because owning a car is serious business. What your driving is a deathly machine and with one wrong turn you could KILL yourself or others. Take driving seriously because its a privilege not a right!

>>13883586
Driving is a right , and FWD doesn't infringe on it.

>>13879511
It was the first time he decided to take it to that Mercedes Benz dealership, he hasn't taken it back there since. He just wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt that they would be reasonable in terms of their pricing. Hence why he has all servicing done by a former neighbour who is a Mercedes technician. The spark plugs were what he got done by the dealership, all the other work since has been the mechanic, who does it at parts cost plus a bit of labor.

>>13879575
I will take you at your word, as i've never driven any of those. I've had a go in a Toyota Aurion (brothers car) that was fairly nice for a mid-sized sedan. The most expensive (in terms of cost when new) car i've driven was my dads 2001 ml 500, which for an automatic had a nice smooth ride and also had a fair lot of power. Maybe i'll be able to drive a proper nice auto at some point so until then i guess i cannot comment.

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>>13876791
>he can't have fun in FWD

What kind of a shit driver are you?

>>13883693
No. That anon is correct in saying that driving is privilege, not a right. In order to legally drive a car, you have to show that operate it in a safe manner. That's why we have licenses and license tests and lawful discrimination against people who are deemed too unsafe to operate a motor vehicle.

>>13876791
penny pinching
and people accept mediocrity

>>13876802
>more interior space
that only relates to a traverse mounting

>>13883911
FWD understeer is easy and simple, like a child or a dog. You can floor it through a corner as long as no one is in the oncoming lane and post it on youtube with the title 'drifting champ'. It takes brass fucking balls to floor it through a corner in a RWD car. Brass. Fucking. Balls.

>>13884182
*unless you're in a no power miata or the like

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>>13884179

and the fact that you don't need the large tunnel for the propshaft

Legroom would've been a better term. I'll admit

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>>13876796
>maek beeg sedan
>gib beeg VeeAte engine
>fwd only
Tell me with a straight face that it isn't fucking retarded. I dare you, cunt.

Price of production as well as stability of the car.
It's easier to set up a stable and understeery FWD car than if it would be RWD, and sadly that's what the average costumer needs. Basically, blame any non-enthusiast buying cars.

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>>13879163
>Chinese

>>13876791
It's cheaper.

>>13876987
I'll bet they couldn't out handle a N/A miata

>>13884182
Yeah, because rwd cant turn

>>13886214
Bull shit. A stock 4th, 5th, or 6th gen civic have better handling than a fuckin miata

FWD can be good, yes, but RWD is just a bit more fun to through around.

Humble opinion. My current car is FWD and sporty enough, but I've preferred driving RWD cars, even when they're trucks or whatever, mostly because of that extra je ne sais quois when you take sharp turns. Oversteer isn't really the whole picture.

civic type r is one of the fastest supercars ever made and it's ff

>>13884182
Mashing the throttle through a turn does not mean your a good driver.

>>13876791
Because you're a bad driver, anyone can have fun in any drive train, but shitty drivers need rwd because they think skidding like a mad cunt is siiiiiik