Why the fuck would anyone drive any AWD system besides symmetrical?

>>13841778
because i don't have autism

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>non symmetrical """""""""""""awd"""""""""""""

>>13841778
>>13841795
>he never heard of torque tubes

>>13841778
don't you see how fucking 100% of the engine is in front of the axle? terrible weight distribution. best AWD layout is a longitudinally mounted mid engine AWD.

>>13841989
it cant be done

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>>13841989
this

>>13842002
>>13841989
b-but muh symmetry

subaru tards blown the fuck out

>>13841999
lmao desu senpai lrn2drivetrainlayout >>13842002

>>13842002
>>13842018

Are you saying I can make my 1999 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport longitude mid engine?

>>13842035
no, where did you get that idea?

>>13842055
I learned it from you.

why cant it be mid engine
i have $1000

>>13842035
top kek you dumb cunt
subaru a shit enjoy your bullshit marketing

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>>13842016
>>13842094
>assmad Fordkuk is still assmad

>>13842110
>conveniently ignoring WRC
lmao butthurt as fuck

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>>13842132
Subaru has 1 more championship in WRC

I didnt ignore it, its on the middle left

should I remind you subaru WRC championships were during the Group N and tight homologation rules?, as opposed to Fordshit grabing an econoshitbox and sending it to m.-sport to add a custom 4wd drivetrain

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>>13841867
>>13842016
>>13842018
>>13842055
>>13842086
>>13842094
>>13842110
>>13842132
>>13842146


TORQUE TUBES FAGGETS

>>13842146
>drivers championships
citroen gave solberg one of them, also unlike you i'm not a fanboy so i'm not gonna get butthurt with your ford shitalking

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>>13842191
>championship drover by constructor
>by constructor
>having anything to do with drivers

are you fucking stupid?

>i'm not a fanboy so i'm not gonna get butthurt with your ford shitalking
cue the damage control; fordkuk

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>>13842202
>drover
kek

>>13842146

so uh thanks for that useful advice on my wagon vs miata vs prelude debate
dickhead
if you want to masturbate make a new thread

>>13842202
>>having anything to do with drivers
can't you read? it's the drivers championships
oh wait you're an idiot child who misread facts about a sport you've started fanboying this month
lol faggot

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>>13841778
There's literally no reason for transverse engines with AWD, it adds too many 90 degree turns over longitudinal

>>13842190
what's a torque tube and what is its function

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>>13842220
are you fucking retarded?

its not the drivers championship

pic related because you cannot comprehend that small chart

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>>13842223
>too many 90 degree turns.
I'm not saying that transverse AWD is better, but c'mon.

>>13842234
the same thing as equal length half shafts.

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>not having mid wheel drive

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>>13841778
>Why the fuck would anyone drive any AWD system besides symmetrical?
Because they want a superior AWD system, and aren't just hung up on an arbitrary layout.

>>13842307
seems like no one wanted said "superior" AWD system because its no longer being made

>>13842271
Every 90 degree turn the power has to take to get to the wheels adds to drivetrain loss.

>>13842310
seems like you're dumb as fuck

>>13842146
>Group N period
Group A period*
It's also entertaining that when Subaru went full WRC, Mitsubishi kept on keeping on with 4 driver championships with their "outdated" improved production Group A.

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>>13842357
>mad the evo is no longer being made

>>13842356
Both layouts actually have the same number of 90* turns, that diagram is wrong.
Anyway, lol 4g63t

>>13842356
It doesn't quite work like that...
If it did, there'd be a problem with the drive taking a 180 degree turn back to the front wheels.
A mechanical connection is a mechanical connection, regardless of which direction the drive is directed out.

>>13842356
Both have two 90 degree turns: one at each differential. No more, no less. Only a retard fanboy would believe that illustration.

>>13842397
you seem clueless

>>13842402
>he says as he looks in the mirror

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>>13842251
for the hard of thinking (you), this is the wrc constructors record

>>13842402
nah he's right. you're obviously not too bright, you shouldn't argue with your superiors

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>>13842410
>>13842417
>counting is hard

>>13842445
that diagram is wrong and you're a retard.
do you think a longitudinal fwd car has more or less 90* turns than a transverse fwd car?

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>>13842454

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>>13842493
>he has have never seen a transmission irl
>all his knowledge on cars comes from random shit tier websites
lmao

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>>13842513
>implying I don't own a longitudinal FWD car
>implying I don't also own a transverse FWD car and a longitudinal AWD car

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>>13842357

>>13842524
My mum owns a car too. She's clueless about cars too.

>>13842537
>implying you can own a 33 year old shitbox and not be able to work on it yourself

>>13842546
Uh, yeah, you totally can actually. Granted, most people with old shitboxes have more time than money and so do work on their own cars but there are people with more money than time who are just fine with old shitboxes that their favored mechanic keeps on the road.

>>13842445
Yeah, that's not how a FWD transmission works. If that's the case, the longatinal gearbox would also have two extra 90 degree bends.... Not that it makes a fucking lick of difference.

>>13842546
being able to turn a wrench doesn't mean you know what you're looking at.

so, do you think a longitudinal fwd car has more or less 90* turns than a transverse fwd car?

or would you rather not answer (again)

>>13842561
Fine, refuse to believe me all you want, but I rebuilt the CV axles on it, surely that counts as knowing what its transmission looks like.

all of you have autism

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>>13841989
If they only had more money. If the yen did better!

>>13842655
based tommy

>>13842576
>surely that counts as knowing what its transmission looks like.
From the outside, but given you actually believe the diagram you posted tends me to believe you have no idea what they look like on the inside.

>>13842190
DAMAGE CONTROL

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>>13842493

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See this shit niggers? All the gears are in A STRAIGHT LINE. THEY ALL LINE UP. THE ONLY 90° IS THE BEVEL TO DRIVE THE FRONT WHEELS.

>>13842985
Sorry, that's just a FWD transmission, no 90°s there. If it were an awd the only 90° would be the one for the driveshaft for the rear.

>>13842110
i'm not sure how this is a btfo
subaru has 8 times the manufacturers (teams, i guess?) but not even 5 times the number of champions in WRC.

>>13842995
Um, I think that's exactly what he's saying.

>>13843009
No, these niggers are trying to say a awd transverse transmission has more than one 90. It doesn't.

>>13843013
>No, these niggers are trying to say a awd transverse transmission has more than one 90. It doesn't
>>13842985
>All the gears are in A STRAIGHT LINE. THEY ALL LINE UP. THE ONLY 90° IS THE BEVEL TO DRIVE THE FRONT WHEELS.
Again, I think that's exactly what he's saying, genius.

>>13843019
Oh, those were all me, I was correcting myself.

>>13843027
Ah, I follow now.
As you were.

>>13841778
subaru fanboys, why are they so stupid?

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>>13842223
it is as simple as splitting the output from the diff that is there anyway
ye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5HJX7CJyOQ

>>13843132
>Xray RC

Muh nigga

>>13843205
>singular 90 degree turn
There you go. Again however, it's completely redundant.

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>>13843220
scubi seems to bury everything in the transaxle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrkzaQRDtuM
unrelated video just because

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>>13843259
>diff output below the input shaft

>>13843293
are you retarded?

why would you want to put the diff higher?

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>>13843293
>"let's make the center of gravity and transmission tunnel unnecessarily high!"

>>13843306
lower CoG

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>>13843293
is this not normal ?

>>13843319
>thinking a differential is lighter than an input shaft

????

>>13841795
what's with all the apostrophe's m8?

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>>13843326
bait, yeah?

>>13843340
stopped reading at !CUNTSWE.7k

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>>13843362
have you realised how dumb you've been yet

>>13842002
imagine that drivetrain running in reverse in a caterham style car

>>13842035
Yes, you will need to change the following,
The gearbox
The monocoque
The diffs
The fuel tank.

>>13841778

>not just either 2wd or traditional transfer case 4x4

>>13842357
Literally mad.

>>13843832
>samefagging like a mad cunt
sad as fuck

>>13843132
I literally only now realized you can just have a big transmission tunnel and have this work in the real world.

Let's do it.

Idon' understand this argument.


Is there a no-bullshit answer why it sucks or is it good? Let's be serious here, we're all adults here I hope...

>>13844105
Symmetrical awd actually puts power to the rear, front dominated is good for driving in situations where you lose traction in the front (rain and snow)

>>13844295
Not sure if this is a shitpost, or that you're genuinely fucking stupid.

>>13844300
>;)

>>13844105
means you can only put the engine outside of the wheelbase, like a 911 or Audi

>>13841778
The problem with symmetrical AWD is weight distribution. The engine is entirely in front of the front axle. That gives the car predominant understeer. Audi is the worst. Subaru mitigates the problem by using boxer engines which are very short and very low, but it's still not perfect.