Yurope BTFO Faster than the 918, 1/10th price.

>>13791907
>is an American car
Found the problem

>>13791907
>going to be vanishing in 2017

also since when is the viper faster than the 918?

>>13791928
I posted the wrong Viper image. The new ACR is faster around Laguna Seca by about a second. Broke 13 track records.

https://youtu.be/hIqbm0Dzzv0

>>13791911
Stay mad.

>>13791940
don't mean shit 'til it breaks the big 7:08 bro

>>13791946
>got so BTFO by superior imports that he had to lobby for the 25-year-rule
Mad as all hell

>>13791968
I know this is just a shitposting thread but you do know the 25 year thing was the result of corporate greed, right?

>>13791964
That's right. It needs to go around the Ring first.

>>13791968
What's the 25 year rule?

>>13791984
Yes I know. Smart buyers were bypassing Mercedes US and going direct to Yuro Mercedes, so US Merc got mega butthurt.

100x uglier and shittier sounding with less comfort prestige and luxury

i dont think any Europe is btfo

>>13792017
I agree that the Porsche does look better, but the viper is the coolest looking American car imo. So savage.
Yeah, it's not luxurious at all.
but still can be yours for under 150k.

>>13792017
>shittier sounding

gonna have to disagree on this one.

>>13792041
I've been in an ACR for a track session, it definitely does not sound good, drones horribly. Everything else is great though and Europe is most definitely BTFO

>>13792017
>comfort
The newer vipers are a long ways away from the uncomfortable as fuck original ones.
>prestige
>luxury
Sounds like someone doesn't give a shit about driving and just wants to look cool

>>13792041
Vipers are some of the shittiest sounding cars Ive heard

>>13792060
sounds like someone doesnt care about driving and just lap times

>>13792059
recent ACR or previous ACR?

I kind of agree with you, the Viper V10 deserves its appellation of a fucking truck engine, sound-wise.

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>>13792017
>such luxury

>>13792153
true, not enough cupholders and wood effect plastic

>>13791907

still, NO THANK YOU.

>>13792093
He means his bodykitted Miata.

>>13792012
Importing nigger
>ŚmH tBh fàm

>>13791907
I would get viper over GTR any day

>>13792173
>this mad eurokek
You'd look silly driving a spyder wearing a hijab though

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But Italy is European kek

>>13791964
>i-it only counts on the enormous European track where driver ability becomes an enormously important variable, rather than smaller, tighter tracks where it's largely the capabilities of the car

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>>13791907
>>13791928
>>13791940
>>13791964
>>13792004

>>13792153
Look at that luxurious mountain Dew colored trim

>>13791964
That's literally not possible, fucking Nazis put speed limits on parts of the Ring.

>>13793627
I thought they lifted those restrictions months ago.

>>13791940
I'm just gonna say that while I'm glad the new ACR is a legit godmachine, in terms of looks the TA 1.0 blows it out of the water.

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American cars shitting on Euro and Jap cars in performance per dollar is nothing new.

>>13793655
>we may not be faster, but we're cheaper than international offerings in our own domestic market!
You're a regular genius.

>>13793655
Why do the Viper stripes cost 5000$ in the configurator?

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GOD BLESS AMERICA

seriously though, they will still shit the bed in GT3 because other manufacturers are not trying to make their road legal production cars as fast as possible.
enjoy a road legal car that melts itself, I guess.

>>13793659
>we're as fast for a fraction of the price in the largest market in the world
Fixed

>>13793666
>other manufacturers are not trying to make their road legal production cars as fast as possible.
Agreed. America is glorious

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i think we can all now agree viper is superior to corvette

>>13793720
Mopar's hit it out of the park, legit.

>>13792017
>the performance king of porsche, specifically designed for the utmost performance possible
>gets out performed by another car
>'yea well the 918 is luxurious and has prestige!'

Literally retarded.

>>13793871
>designed for the utmost performance possible
except it wasn't.
then again the 918 would win on any larger track.

>This car made in country, which I will never own, is marginally better than cars made in other countries, which I will also never own!
>No, you!
There, I just summed up the entire thread.

>>13793897
>being this salty
>the year of our lord 1990+25

>>13793900
/o/ has turned into trash cause of this

>>13793930
It's because 4chan is basically /v/chan now.

/v/irgins are the new /b/tards

>>13793941
i guess they got old enough to get a license and a car, such a tragic thing to see.

they've pretty much ruined most boards, only the general threads are still intact, for now.

but the viper is Italian

>>13793871
literally damage control

But the Viper is a European car too. Americlaps BTFO as always

>>13793900
To be fair a Viper is a lot less out of reach than a 918

>>13793720
It's always been. The Vette doesn't have sidepipes, that alone makes the Viper superior.

>>13791907
>1/10th price.
Because of all the futuristic tech the 918 has! What does the Viper have? An overpowered engine and good looks. Nothing special and is over priced actually....

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>>13791907

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>>13792153
>fire extinguisher
Those should be mandatory in every ferrari and corvette.

>>13793871
>prestige

Fucking made up marketing bullshit, you keks fall for anything

>>13794641
>overpowered engine
Retard
>Porsche has tech
Loses

>>13794963
rekt

>>13793720
Anyone who disagrees is a GM shill. The Viper is and has always been objectively and subjectively better than it's contemporary Vette.

>>13791907
That's like saying Rolex is BTFO by Casio because it essentially has the same features (telling you what fucking time it is) at 1/100th the price.

Sometimes I think americans don't understand the concept of prestige, refinement, exclusivity, and heritage. It's just like any tacky old pretend piece of plastic will do.

>>13795097
>Sometimes I think americans don't understand the concept of prestige, refinement, exclusivity, and heritage
They do, but only when it's their own stuff. Ironic how THE GREAT MELTING POT gets so threatened by anything foreign.

>>13795097
>spending money on expensive watches

lol what a kuk

>>13795120
>spending money on expensive cars

lol what a kuk

>>13795097
But in this case the Casio is more precise at telling time while being cheaper. What "refinement" are you talking about?

>>13795126
which is why you buy a viper or a GTR

>>13793663

It's a fag tax.

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>>13795097
>Casio
>not Seiko

>>13793663
>>13795141
They paint it in a certain way so the stripe paint isn't on top of the rest of the paint. It's completely smooth.

>>13795131
I doubt there's a difference in precision between the two nowadays. Any watchmaker that doesn't get the time right in the 21st century deserves to be out of business. In any case, that issue would be in the general reliability area and not in the refinement one.

I love the new Viper. I wouldn't have it in ACR trim, I don't really enjoy what the spoiler and splitters do to the exterior aesthetics. I love the older generations too, but this new one is the perfect combination of simplicity and an actual interior. The old ones had an interior, but it was basically all the basic boxes ticked, the new one has an interior with simplicity alike but all the comfort you might want from a raw car like that

>>13795146

>2015
>not dual-watching
>not being Caseikio master race

fucking plebs on my 4chan

>>13795097
>this is what they have to resort to
I remember when thr 917 was the greatest thing in the world because it lapped the meme ring in under 7 minutes

Now it's muh luxury muh refinement muh brand prestige

The watch thing is especially fucking pathetic, paying shit tons of money for a status symbol.

>>13795131
>Casio is more precise at telling time
casio does lose more seconds over a year but what freak cares about that

>>13795148

You mean they mask it and spray the clearcoat over it? Holy shit say it isn't so.

>>13792809
What am I looking at here?

>>13795337
rice punto

>>13795337
An American car

>>13791940

>Laguna Seca
>relevant

Kek

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>>13792153

Platinum tier one-off Rolls Royce luxury compared to the horrible shit interior on the Viper

>b-but muh new Viper

That one is italian :^) Europe wins again

>>13795445
Just thinking of how that feels makes me cringe

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>>13795445
I don't get this argument, we're comparing the 918 and new ACR Viper, why bring up the old Viper interior? Should I bring this up and say victory Viper?

>>13795189
this nigger really doesnt know the difference between quartz and a mechanical watch

>>13795486

The new Viper is not an american car so it doesn't count :^)

>>13795497
>owned by an Italian company
>designed in america
>engineered in america
>built in america
>somehow European

>>13795523
Yeah because it's owned by Europeans

>>13795540
So does that make the commodore an american car or an Aston Martin american? Then agaon, I don't know why I'm replying when you're just being silly on purpose.

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>>13795497
O~h you're one of those 'tards. So Lamborghini isn't Italian (and at one point was American).

>>13795523
>Hennessey
>owned by an American
>engineered in the UK first then a US company slaps on some mods
>built in the UK
>assembled in the UK
>registered as a UK marque, Lotus
>somehow American

>>13795554
Is VW a Mexican company?

>>13795563
The lotus is initially a British car, but I'm not sure how much of its left in the venom, isn't that car 99% custom?

>>13795568
With how much noxious gas their cars spew out of their ass...yeah, I'd say so.

>>13795434

>These results don't agree with my bias.
>Irrelevant.

fixed that for you.

>>13795568
Considering vw engineers cars in Germany, no.

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>>13795576

>>13795030
>>Porsche has tech
Yes it has. Prove me wrong then. Does your Murican shit have hybrid? A fuel efficient supercar?

You guys build cars in the most retarded way.

>>13795603
He wasn't out to prove you wrong, just that it was slower.
>building cars the wrong way
>faster
>cheaper
>simpler

>>13795603
>You guys build cars in the most retarded way.
>faster for cheaper
You guys must build them mega retarded, then.

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>>13795603
>has to build $845k car to go faster than a Datsun
>has to build $845k car to go faster than a Chrysler
>has to build $845k car to go faster than a Lexus
Top fucking kek

>>13795871
Oh god its officially started.

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but wait there is one more

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Hand built in the motor city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GDeTk_zJnI
stay mad euro keks

>>13795603
>fuel-efficient hybrid supercar
Are you this hard on the damage control? Who the fuck cares about fuel efficiency in a supercar? It's a fucking supercar. If I wanted something fuel efficient I would be buying a Civic or a Focus or some other everyman 4-banger shitbox.

>>13795871
Where is the "the Viper is noticeably faster" conclusion?

>>13791940
Ever notice American cars only seem to break records on American tracks and fail everywhere else in the world?

>>13795940
That's only there in the shooped troll versions.

>>13795939
>not understanding what a breakthrough a part electric motor in a super car, torque filling while turbos spool, more F1 tech in road cars
There's a reason why the P1, la Ferrari and 918 are special cars

>>13795951
Assuming "Viper vs 918" will be the new GTR vs Corvette, we're gonna need that conclusion.
Counter-arguments will include "lol discontinued" and "lol not road legal everywhere".

>>13795961
>spend millions on R&D for the newest hybrid tech
>still slower than an old-fashioned Viper
Stay mad.

>>13795950
The old ACR Viper held the Burgerring record for a bit, I just don't think they've had a chance to ship it around the world to push everyone's shit in yet. And this is coming from a GT-R fanboi.

>>13795968
and hell, maybe after all this attention the viper is getting with these times, it might boost sales

>>13795980
>old fashioned
Just that, Americans don't make anything but pushrod V8s, they're boring as fuck, where's the V12s/ W16s and part electric cars? Americans don't invent they just take other ideas and throw shit at it, you see this with food. Only Americans buy American things, they're seen as low quality to the rest of the world, You can say tesla but Elon musk is South African

>>13796042
>mad that old-fashioned tech is faster than the newest, most advanced shit yurop has to offer

>>13796042
>moving goal post that now the owner of the company dictates the country of origin for the vehicles
Guess the GT-R is Brazillian now.

>>13796061
>benchracing

>>13796042
>Americans don't make anything but pushrod V8s, they're boring as fuck, where's the V12s/ W16s
You mean like the V10 that's in the very car that this thread is based on?

>>13796042
The Viper is a v10 m8

Sorry you displacement taxes force you into having to use other methods for power outside of hyper cars with big engibes

Pushrods push gods.

>>13795563
That must mean the AC Cobra is an English car

>>13795980
Not even that. Still slower than an LS swapped Miata

>posts a fiat, a european car

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>>13795871
>>13795880
>>13795887
there is a problem though

like when we shitposted about GTRs vs Corvettes, it was fun because the corvette was faster on some tracks and slower on others, and the GTR had transmission problems while the corvette overheated

the new ACR has basically no competition

how exactly are we going to shitpost now?

>>13796317
Compare cars with very different design philosophies and call others mad that their continent can't into engineering.

Viper is the new godmachine.

>>13796331
but the Viper is half european

>>13796335
And the 918 uses parts from OEMs all over the world.

>>13796342
ok

but that doesnt answer my question

how are we going to shitpost now

>>13796350
How about "loldiscontinued" and "lol FCA"?
Maybe "lol truck engine"?

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>>13796332
>new godmachine
>wasnt always

>>13795097
>anericans are more concerned with function then prestige
The american term for somebody who spends a tremendous amount of money on flashy albeit functionally inferior things is "nigger rich".

>>13796356
>loldiscontinued

quite sad desu

>lolFCA

will revolve around "a fiat is faster than the GTR"

>lol truck engine

will revolve around "a truck engine is faster"

there is no point anymore

>>13796317
its simple really

we cant shitpost anymore because of the fact that the viper has basically proven everyone wrong about stereotypes associated with american cars

>can turn
>something other than v8
>manual
>looks good (subjective)
>relatively cheap (for the performance)

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>>13796373
Sidepipes are my automotive fetish. I blame pic related.

>>13796384
but its half italian

>>13796384
it's still a redneck ferrari tho

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>>13796383
I guess it's back to the ol' Fordposting then, hyping the GT up to be the greatest car ever built that'll BTFO everything on every track ever.

>>13795523
Does this mean that yurop also claims responsibility for every other shitheap that chrysler pinches off?

>>13796401
then im sorry to say that all these supercars are beaten by a redneck shitmmobile

>>13796396
just owned by fiat, everything else is american, so its more like 1/4 italian

>>13796416
>engine made by lamborghini
>1/4

>>13796430
we partnered with them, it wasnt fully built by them

>>13796439
They took a truck engine and sent it over to the Italians with the message "get some power out of this thing". At least that's how I heard it.

>>13796439
>we

are you FCA or what ?

>>13796445
at the time Chrysler owned Lamborghini, and we sent a few american engineers with the engine over to them

>>13796439
>it wasnt fully built by them
considering the only thing that shares with the truck engine are the pushrods and the number of cylinders, yes it has

besides, nationality shitposting is boring, imnot a fucking italian, there is no fun arguing about this

>>13796445
>truck engine
Chrysler doesn't even offer a v10 Ram m8

>>13796042
Americans invented like 60% of all significant human inventions.

The industrial revolution wasn't shit compared to late 19th early 20th century USA as far as inventions/new technology are concerned.

>>13796486
But they did at some point. The Viper engine is based on that.

>>13796453
I am

>>13796461
if people are crying about how it is italian because of the engine, then they should look back and see that Chrysler owned Lamborghini when the engine was created/changed

>>13796430
>>13796445
Basic engine design structure was based on the old 360/5.9 Magnum engines, with two extra cilinders. Dodge did what they could, and, because they owned LAmborghini at the timed, they decided to let the Italians design the material itself, and where to apply it(since you need different thinknesses for aluminium and cast iron, duh). Over the years, the Dodge engineers have added more power, cam-in-cam VVT, and trimmed away the excess material to lighten that block, because it was kinda overbuilt in the first two generations.

>>13796494
No, the V10 Ram unit was based on the Viper engine, not the other way around. However, the Viper engine was loosely based on the old 360/5.9 Magnum architecture - not exactly a truck engine, but still.

>>13795603
Spending 800K to get a more fuel-efficient vehicles isn't money-efficient.

>>13796494
>The Viper engine is based on that.
lolno

it even says VIPER on the valve covers

>>13791907
How to keep the Viper alive after 2017:
>Take modern 5.7 Hemi architecture to create new V10, instead of the old 5.9 Magnum architecture
>add supercharger
>add manual sequential transmission option
>shorten the exhaust pipes
>add active earo middle finger on the bonnet that pops up only for EPA rolling road tests

>>13796569
back up guys, on the VALVE COVER.

viper just kicked in yo

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>>13796579
or just make it cheaper, with a smaller engine that can be sold worldwide and can compete with a base vette

>>13793659
They are still cheaper in every single market, except for tax shitholes like parts of Scandinavia.

>>13795051
They were never supposed to compete anyways. The Viper engineers knew from day one they had to make something that would somehow outperform or out-shout the Corvette.

>>13796445
Mainly they just cast the block in aluminum, worked on reducing weight, and sorted out the cooling system. When people hear that Lambo helped with the engine they assume they did all the work, but Chrysler actually did a lot.

>>13796541
The SRT10 Ram had the Viper engine. The V10 Magnum was an option in the heavy duty trucks.

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>>13796042

V12s are boring and America invented the car V16

>>13795961
Part electric motors add unneccesary weight.
Torque filling isn't needed when you've got a torquey motor, and no turbos to spool.
F1 tech is a marketing gimmick. F1 is so damn heavily restricted it's not even funny.

>>13796598
>cheaper
No, it's already a bargain.
>smaller engine
Downsizing something that's known just for being big is a bad idea. Besides, competing against the Corvette isn't going to happen given the latter's sales volume, and Dodge's more limited resources.
>can be sold worldwide
It's being sold worldwide. The engine isn't the problem, it's just customer demand, and taxes in certain regions. You could try and avoid those, but it'd take away from the Viper's core concepts.

>>13796704
Just thinking of a modern v16 gives me a semi.

>>13796598
Half the appeal of the Viper is it's glorious lack of sensibility.

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>mfw all these burgerclaps get their bubbles burst when the 2016 GT-R comes out and takes back the records

I like how this thread at some point just went "well shit, viper is just too good, guess we can't shitpost it anymore."

>>13796761
>new 2017 viper comes out for its final year
>supercharged v10 option making 900 hp
>over 800 ft-lbs of torque
>machine guns mounted in trunk for maximum merica pride
>carbon fiber cup holders that fold over to double as burger holders
>only song the radio plays is the star spangled banner

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>>13796761
>mfw that bubble burst is worse than the 2008 housing bubble crash

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I dont understand the fandom, i really dont, if the viper is a fast as fuck car then do be it, it is what it is regardless of who makes it. I kind of like the viper but I dont love it, still yet fast is fast no matter what the badge says, I can only imagine you who are hating on this car are still in your teens and drive a shit car.

>>13796494
>they built their 2016 supercar
>on a 90s truck engine
>it has the same number of cylinders it must be the same engine
Are you retarded?

>>13796916
>thinks the viper engine has changed since the 90's

it has been modified,but its the same

>>13796916
>"based on" means it's the exact same thing
They improved on the original design, but didn't make an all-new engine for any generation Viper.

>>13791907

how exactly is Yuros btfo when the Viper is owned by Italian?

Well done FIAT!!!!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LA_engine#8.0L_Magnum_V10
>Chrysler's second V10 after the Viper
>second V10
>after the Viper

>yfw Viper came first, again

>be yuropoor
>think mustang, camaro, corvette and viper all look amazing

I aint even mad, merricars are dope as fuck

>>13795146

What model seiko is this?

>>13796943
Ooh, and it said that that engine is an iron-block, while the Viper is aluminum.

>>13796936
>wait that means porsche lost to fiat

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>>13796936
>tfw FIAT will make an American car brand less reliable

>>13795540
So this means european fords are american?
So americans CAN make good cars?

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>>13796944
Digiborg

>>13796936
Is Volvo chinese? Is Aston Martin american?

>>13792014
>somehow Mercedes is American

Wow no wonder why Yurops are delusional is a meme, it's fucking real

>>13797712
False flag retardation
Auto makers have regional branches of sale, just like any company

>>13791907
>Faster than the 918, 1/10th price.

And soon to be dead because Chrysler is a failure of a car company :^)

ford 4 lyfe

>>13797725
>branches of sale
>not branches of design/engineering
Mercedes is German fuccboi. Doesn't matter how you try to word it.

and soon to go under the bus
based ford
chevy trap god

>>13797750
You are literally fucking retarded

>>13795434
Almost every lap record in every car is set by the same faggot at Laguna.

>>13792014
Can someone explain this?

>>13799891
Basically somebody found out it was cheaper to import mercs to the US instead of buying them hear from dealerships. Eventually more people started doing it, US based merc dealerships caught wind of this and then demanded the US federal government make that shit illegal. What they found to be the easiest way to achieve this was to enact a ban on importing cars to the US that arent at least 25 years old, at least as far as registering them for street use is concerned.

Thats what I understand to have happened, at least

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For all the retards that think the Viper has a truck engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDdBFbikUQ

I'm not even american.

>>13800033
It is however BASED on a truck engine design, just cast in an aluminum block and retuned to be more powerful rather than trucky torks.

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Truly the pinnacle of engineering and design.

>>13800628
[melts]

>>13800628
I still say the TA 1.0 is the best looking Gen V Viper, even if not the most godmusheen of the lineup.

>>13797764
By your logic Chrysler is Italian then?

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>>13800628

As a european I'm afraid I will have to agree.. holy shiet, that is a NICE looking car

I'd buy that.

t.
German

>>13795557

Lamborghini is german. Fun fact: the Gallardo V10 was developed by Audi for Lamborghini and later used in the R8 as well. Not the other way around as many people believe.

>>13794641
>overpowered engine
It literally is one of the most untaxed performance engines out there. Only 645hp from an 8.4l.

>>13795523

How the Viper was "designed" and "engineered" in America:

>amerifats draw up plans for Viper and send it to FIAT to get it signed off
>FIAT engineers scrap the whole pile of shit and just do it again so it actually works
>americans receive new plans and don't even notice that it has nothing to do with the shit they came up with
>"DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED IN MURRICA!! USA USA USA USA USA!"

>>13796415
>pinches off
I lol'd

>>13797024
KEK
E
K

>this thread

How can anybody even hate the viper?

Viper and the yellowbird are absolutely the most charismatic cars of all time.

>>13801377
1/10

I replied.

>>13796852
Welcome to /o/ enjoy your stay

>>13801377
This post is bait

>>13798629
Which is good for consistency what's your point

>>13802153
I think that was his point.

>>13791907
But this is an Italian car.

>>13797750
Wow you're stupid.

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>>13791907

>>13802166
It was designed by an American and hand-built in America under an American marque by guys who just happen to have their checks paid by Italians.

>>13803342
the engine was designed by italians tho

>>13803366
This guy

>Hail Italia
>Italia rules the waves

>>13803377
clueless detected

>>13803377
Well the first gen Viper had a 'Lambo' engine.
Not sure how they're going about it with the newer generations.

>>13803402
I thought the going meme was truck engine

>>13791907
>>13791940
Looks so good also those sharp AERO modifications can kill a retarded civilian who can't hear that V10 roar. I'd buy it if I could afford it

>>13803427
They basically shipped a truck engine to Lamborghini which was owned by Chrysler during the period.
Lamborghini then fiddled with the motor and shipped it back for the Viper.

>>13793900
"Don't talk cars on /o/"

-You, ca. 2015

>>13796380
*than

>>13791907
It's not our fault the 918 is so expensive for you when it's not that much more expensive than the Viper here.

>>13803868
Isn't the Porsche like 1 or 2 million?

>>13803442
Well they probably know a lot about truck engines considering they're a tractor company

>>13804092
At least 980k far as I know
The difference is its at least that expensive everywhere its sold

>>13795097
>Rolex
Funny that you mention that. Seiko nearly eviscerated the Swiss watch industry when they released the first quartz watch. They only survived by a hair by playing that prestige, refinement, heritage bullshit.

>>13803868
How much does a Viper cost in your communist shithole, and why does it cost that much?

>>13792012
Basically, Mercedes of America was pissed off that people were importing better Mercedes from Europe instead of buying the shit American variants. So they lobbied really hard and now, any vehicle under 25 years that was not designed for America(emissions, safety, LHD), cannot be imported.

It is possible for vehicles to be granted exemptions(show&display), or if someone imports enough of them to test and modify them to fit the requirements (see: Motorex)

This unfortunately did not only affect Mercedes and applies to ALL makers.

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>>13809267
>tfw greedy coke fueled germans kuked your entire nation

>>13809965
That gif is fucking awesome. Saved.

>>13793720
as a GM fanboy, I agree with this post. I hope dodge reliability gets astronomically better so they can fill the void in my heart where pontiac used to be.

>>13795240
+1

>>13800628
It doesn't seem like Viper's looks have hardly changed the past 15 years, but it looks gorgeous.

I'm going to be sad to see them go, especially now that they actually perform.
I don't get why they don't make a model that's like 65k that could actually cut into Corvette sales instead of hurr durr Hellcats.

>>13814784
The new gen is a throw back to gen 1-2, because they ruined the looks of the gen 3.

There were plans of a Chrysler Firepower which was a V8 Viper, but that got canceled.

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>>13796748
Not sure if you saw the Cadillac Sixteen concept, but this was the engine.

>>13791940
did he just say carbon fiber brakes?

>>13815542
They are carbon ceramic.

>>13814930
Holy fuck imagine equal-length headers or a step down design.
8-4-2-1 headers anyone?

>>13795445
GJ picking out an old model interior, fag.

>>13814930
I mostly just like doritos, but this gets me hard too.

>>13791940
>>13795950
>>13795983
The 2011 ACR was 4s slower than the GT-R Nismo, and currently in 8th place.
Wouldn't be surprised out if this comes in just under the Nismo which would make it the third fastest production car as well as one of the cheapest of all those top lapping cars.

Just a matter of waiting for them to get it over in overpriced car land.

>>13791964
im afraid that a viper 8 years ago broke that. look at the acr-x 7:05

>>13817226
that was a racecar tho

a legit racecar, it was used in some viper cup in north america

>>13817244
still was a production car and the new acr is faster than that so its safe to assume that 7:05 is still what the new viper can do on the ring if they allowed trial runs again

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>>13817657
>race car
>production car

you arent very smart

>>13817699
>open hood on new acr
>giant cheeky snake engraved on the underside staring right at me

i can only wish