Trump berates CNN reporter: 'You are fake news'

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>>94779

let the mass censorship begin

>>98949
We have to stop this bullshit.
There is a difference between biased news and fake news.
CNN is NOT fake news. Biased? Quite possible, but then so is Fox et al. But it is definitely NOT FAKE NEWS.

That is not to say that Pissgate is not fake news. It could well be. That just means that CNN had a vetting failure (possibly influenced by a bias) but that does not make CNN fake news.

I am tired of the laziness in these debates.

>>98952
I disagree about "the bullshit" part of your post. Trump&Co. perfectly well understands the difference between biased and fake, but is pretending otherwise as a rhetorical dodging device. It isn't laziness, it's intentional.

I doubt Pissgate is real but that doesn't mean the rest of the allegations aren't. CNN broke the story well before Buzzfeed introduced the pissing part. There are other things in the "dossier" besides the MI5 guy's claims.

>>98952
Laziness is all you're going to get.

Cnn is fake news.

>>98962
Your mom is fake news.

>>98952
Who is we??

>>98964
black people

>>98965
Haha...elections have consequences...back of the bus boy

>>98968
Consequences are overrated. My penis has consequences too but I don't like to brag.

>>98969
Such intelligence..

>>98974
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

>>98975
Moar

>>98949
Get used to that censorship.

>>98949
Gotta admit, even though i despise Trump, I have always admired his "crudeness". It's just a stark contrast from all the other politicians who speak so professionally and in a neutral manner.

GET FUCKED LIBERALS.

>>99004
Trumpcucks sure do love using the L-word.

>>98949
>rides on fake news into the White House
>rides on fake news through and out of it

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

>>99003
I like the forcefulness, not necessarily the crudeness or how reactive he is.

>CNN's decision to publish carefully sourced reporting about the operations of our government is vastly different than Buzzfeed's decision to publish unsubstantiated memos. The Trump team knows this. They are using Buzzfeed's decision to deflect from CNN's reporting, which has been matched by the other major news organizations.

>We are fully confident in our reporting. It represents the core of what the First Amendment protects, informing the people of the inner workings of their government; in this case, briefing materials prepared for President Obama and President-elect Trump last week.

>We made it clear that we were not publishing any of the details of the 35-page document because we have not corroborated the report's allegations. Given that members of the Trump transition team have so vocally criticized our reporting, we encourage them to identify, specifically, what they believe to be inaccurate.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/11/politics/cnn-statement-trump-buzzfeed/index.html?sr=fbCNN011117cnn-statement-trump-buzzfeed0605PMStoryLink&linkId=33282660

>>99038
>CNN's decision to publish carefully sourced reporting
I couldn't even get one full sentence in before I started laughing.

>>99040
Trump will throw all of those liars in jail when he takes office. It's a sad day when Breitbart is the only credible new source around.

>>99040
CNN never published the Pissgate documents because they said that it was unsubstantiated and ridiculous (basically, this shit didn't happen). Buzzfeed then covered pissgate and CNN got associated with it and blamed by Trump. In this case, CNN didnu nuffin.

>>99043
Don't bother explaining, they think it's all fake news anyway because their God-Emperor told them so.

>>99041
I doubt he will. He already backed down on the wall and throwing Killary in jail. All he's proven good for is talking shit and exposing normies to how incompetently corrupt the MSM is. But honestly he doesn't really need to do anything. The radical left cult is self destructing just fine on its own, and hopefully they'll have burned themselves out so something something atleast tolerable can take its place by 2020.

>>99054
>The radical left cult is self destructing just fine on its own, and hopefully they'll have burned themselves out so something something atleast tolerable can take its place by 2020.
The last time wingnuts like you were saying this kind of thing was 2004 when Bush defeated Kerry. That led to Obama four years later.

>>99041
>Breitbart
>credible
pick one

It's amazing to me that Trump's detractors still do not understand that, no matter what dirt there is, a hell of a lot of Americans feel like in Trump we finally have a president on our side. He will make mistakes, he is imperfect, he is flawed and human just like the rest of us. He will fuck up. But at least he is on our side. He's not trying to give away our jobs and way of life to Mexico or China or the UN. Because of all that, I genuinely do not care whether he pissed on Obama's bed - hell I kind of hope he did.

>>98949
i totally agree with trump. CNN is fake news all along! dont buy into it.

>>99085
>a hell of a lot of Americans feel like in Trump we finally have a president on our side.
We get that you're gullible af. You don't have to point it out. Not even the Obama hope-and-change retards were as rabid about defending their idol as your Trump fanboys are.

>>99085
fuck off RT

>>99090
Considering that many of them apparently turned around and voted for Trump...

>>99085
Well, i ain't a shill & I am very happy Trump got it....We dodged such a bullet with that idiot hillary....obama fucked this country so hard. ugh

>>99088
Don't be a retard.
Holy Fuck, CNN is not fake news.
It may have run with fake news in this case but it is just biased as other news agencies like Fox News.

>CNN
>real news

>>99132
>conflating fake news with biased news for obfuscation points

>>99130
>actually using the MSM "fake news" meme

Litrally kill yourself (sorry)

>>99133
Nobody gives a fuck

The entire thing was invented so the media could pretend they didn't EPIC fail at reporting this election

Fuck off

Look at those dislikes to likes. CNN BTFO. Americans love Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm6i0YfNK8Q&ab_channel=CNN

>>99100
This. Obummer and his SOCIALIST deathcare and ACORN run baby killing centers where the melt fetuses are going to be repealed and we'll MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

>>99135
You sound like a Hillary supporter talking about wikileaks.

Trump doesn't need CNN. CNN is on the way out. Fake news just doesn't deserve to be in the mainstream. CNN will become like Buzzfeed as new sites like Breitbart and RT take its place.

CNN: The Counterfeit News Network.
CNN: The Clinton News Network
CNN: The Cuck News Network

>>99142
>>99143
>>>/pol/

>>99144
>he doesn't know what happened to old /news/
>he doesn't know that /news/ was what spawned /pol/
>he doesn't know that now that /news/ is back, /pol/ is reclaiming its lost heritage

>>99145
/new/ is not /news/. You can't even post your shitty stormfag infographics here. Stop living in the past.

>>99140
>>99142
I honestly can't tell what's satire and what's real anymore.

>>99147
There has been an uptick in sarcastic shitposting on this board since this story came out.

>>99141
Ok?

>>99150
(protip: it means you're a giant faggot hypocrite)

>>99152
The ok had a question mark because your point is ???

>>99134
Have you been drinking?
Your post makes no sense.

>>99135
Which is true
- You're trolling
- Have some brain trauma
- Had a low level of education
- All of the above

>>99142
obv troll is obv troll

>>99159
You're really pretending I'm drunk just because you can't read good

Does that work

>>99160
Are you a comedian?
I am rolling on the floor laughing

>>98951
You didn't listen to the whole speech or conference as he also said about 'fake news' and slander "It's just something we are going to have to get use to."

>>99160
Are you retarded or just trolling?
Do you anything more to say than ad hominems? Maybe explain how is he a hypocrite?

>>99133
Honestly, the ship has sailed. CNN has already had terrible problems with not just slanting things, but making shit up before this latest stint. About the only good thing Trump has done so far is tear the arrogant fourth estate down the pegs it needed to go. It was buddy-buddy with the outgoing administration to a disgusting degree, especially with how draconian it was on whistleblowers and dissenters.

>>98949
it's not only fake news, it's filtered news

>>99343
What exactly is it that you think CNN did? You know they didn't have anything about pissing in their reporting, right?

>>99349
meant for
>>99308

>>99349
They didn't, but CNN does have a record for lying or doing blatantly unethical things and their involvement here, right or wrong is just going to cement that image of them in people's minds. People on both sides are frequently distrusting anything to do with the organization and that cultivated distrust is largely its own fault. Nobody would be believing this confusion right now surrounding them if they didn't have such a shitty history with the facts.

>>98949
https://youtu.be/8VX18fVsyNc
i dont know but this might help

>itt /news/, /pol/, and the MSM don't understand how Intelligence works.

It was in a 35 page raw intelligence document. It'll contain literally every type of claim like this that can't be disproved immediately. There's probably a document much like this one out there somewhere saying Clinton is a Saudi plant. It gets included because they don't like leaving this shit out and being told later they didn't account for it.

Raw intelligence is then processed, but the media didn't decide to go all ominous "OoooOoooh... Every single democrat has been mentioned in possible connection with subversive activities by the intelligence community..." because it would be trite.

They did it with Trump, because they are biased hacks. The raw intelligence document will pick up chatter and inconsistent claims. As Trump pointed out, there's basic factual inconsistencies with some of the claims, like his guy went to Prague. (Verifiably never happened.)

The reason for these inconsistencies is that the intelligence is unprocessed, and hasn't been checked. CNN and Buzzfeed willfully misrepresenting this is a huge problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_analysis

>>99453

If these outlets were being honest and knew what the fuck they were talking about, they would instead focus on the following: Someone, for some reason, is creating false intelligence about Trump. That is genuinely suspicious in a lot of ways. "Cover-up worse than the crime" and all. If you tell a thousand lies about Trump, the truth gets buried in the public consciousness and the intelligence agencies have to wade through crap to find it.

Example. Al-Qaeda will spread rumors about their bases in lots of towns. If they don't do this, then there would be a disproportionate number of mentions about how it's where it actually is. Town A would get mentioned far more frequently. So they lie and keep telling people "Town B." "Town C." etc. Here, we see lies about how the Russians have a grip on Trump.

A similar dynamic could be at play.) A proper news report on this would be: It's either Russia engaging in muddying the waters, or libelous democrats/republicans in our own intelligence agencies and such deliberately trying to fuck with him, which is tantamount to treason (they would be conducting intelligence operations against the president elect, albeit, probably without official backing).

Other possibilities are that it's someone deliberately trolling the intelligence community (/pol/), it's a country with a vested interest in bringing down Trump (Mexico/China/Canada/EU etc.) or any number of other things.

Hence why it shouldn't be reported at all in my pinion. But they didn't do that, because even acknowledging that possibility wouldn't fit their narrative. It was hack journalism, so fuck them. If Trump IS a Russian asset, they just made it so much fucking harder for people to do their jobs or point out actual fucking issues.

Why is Trump even bothering to have news conferences? I think at this point he's doing it just to deliberately fuck with the MSM, but I bet after a few rounds of them he'll just get annoyed and stop doing them. He'll give the occasional interview to orgs that support him and tell the rest to pound sand.

He talks directly to the people through tweets, and doesn't need the fourth estate.

>>99472
Honestly, he should just sue or outlaw them for libel. Only new sources that are fair/factual should be able to disemenate information.

The only news sites worth anything are:
Gateway Pundit
National Review
The Daily Caller
Jewish World Review
Instapundit
Hot Air
The Washington Examiner
The Drudge Report
Breitbart
Townhall

>>99477
don't forget the best one! http://spidr.today/?s=date&c=us&t=&ct=l&ar=1

>>99479
>all that fake MSM news

>>99477
>All right-wing cuck news

nah

>>99483
Not really an argument.

>>99477
>Breitbart
>>>/pol/
Into the trash you go

>>99477

Decent troll, but this one is a little too obvious.

>>99146
/news/ is /new/ 2.0

Even have similar rules except for being text base.

>>99485
You know who was in Trump's press conference the other day and actually doing their job?

Breitbart

>>99488
Breitbart practically sucks Trump's dick and of course they would because Trump gave their former boss who still has a fuck load of pull in the business a job with a fat-as-fuck paycheck as one of the top guys in the Whitehouse.

Why does half of /news/ sperg out over Breitbart and the other half faps off to it?

>>99488
>actually doing their job?

Breitbart courageously demands answers from Trump at press conference: "[With] all the problems that we’ve seen throughout the media over the course of the election, what reforms do you recommend for this industry here?"

After swallowing and wiping his mouth, the blushing Breitbart reporter said "th-thank you sempai" and was received with jealous admiration from his colleagues.

>>99483
It's incredibly hilarious watching leftwingers try and turn insults that effectively categorize them around in lazy "s-so are you!" trends.

>>99492
That's way less ass kissing than all the media faggots used with Obama.

>Mr obama, my holy black master, what has *enchanted* you the most about being the best president ever?

That was a real fucking question they asked Obama. That shit happened.

anything that has a 24 hour stream of supposed "news" is fake news in my book

when these cable stations and the like manufacture news through conducting interviews and such I consider that fake news

even this latest cnn/trump scandal is fake news, it's obvious to anyone that the reporter was trying to get kicked out of the room or at least get a rise out of trump

this is just theatrical bullshit designed to keep satiate the appetite of the daily news cycle television viewer

>>99521
the difference is obama didn't have the CEO of a media corp as his closest adviser. Try again when you have Trump's cock out of your mouth.

We're nearing our 100,000th GET here on /news/. Whoever posts the GET predicts the news for 2017

>>99528
No, the difference is liberal media are totally biased non-journalists who are explicitly opposing and attacking Trump solely because they personally don't like him.

The media is *supposed* to be neutral, but they are blatant supporters of the left wing agenda. They barely even try to hide it.

>>99530
>The media is *supposed* to be neutral
No, they're just supposed to be truthful. Demanding the media be neutral is demanding their freedom of speech be restricted, which is just plain Un-American.

>>99531
That's completely absurd. The media should deliver information in an unbiased, professional setting. Aka neutrally. It is NOT to make biased attack articles that employ hate speech and personal attack in a weak attempt to brainwash their audience.

What the fuck would a CNN toadie like you know about truth or America?

>>99533
You sound like your from Russia with that line of thinking, freedom of the press is how we do things in the US

>>99535
>your

Lol you're pathetic. Freedom of press doesn't mean the press SHOULD present information that is colored and skewed by the reporter's own personal opinions and beliefs. Information should be presented without bias so the reader can draw their OWN conclusions.

Apparently you are too stupid to decide what your own brain thinks of something, as you need CNN to decide what you think of it. Hilarious but sad.

>>99533
>The media should deliver information in an unbiased, professional setting. Aka neutrally.
Something which Breitbart and the Drudge Report fail to do time and time again.

>What the fuck would a CNN toadie like you know about truth or America?
CNN is not a left-wing news organization. It was not created to spin stories, but report on them. You think that just because it employs left-wing pundits means that it's inherently bias -- it isn't. No more so than Fox news or NBC or Business Insider.

>>99536
>Information should be presented without bias so the reader can draw their OWN conclusions.
That's not freedom of the press. You don't get to decide what freedom of the press is. If you don't like what a news organization is doing, get your news elsewhere.

>Apparently you are too stupid to decide what your own brain thinks of something, as you need CNN to decide what you think of it. Hilarious but sad.
I find it telling that you insult the previous poster on a spelling error but can't form a proper sentence.

Many cases like this! Sad!

>>99537
You've been blue pilled for so long that the truth burns you.

>>99533

Well, what does bias mean?

If it's intentionally omitting relevant detail or using poorly sourced facts in an argument, then that is inherently problematic, because the audience's ability to develop a perspective that is accurate to reality will be impaired when they have incomplete or wrong information.

But if detail is comprehensive and facts are well-sourced in the news, then including one's opinion, while not news and thus not necessary, isn't inherently wrong.

All of the relevant facts have to be provided to the electorate by the press; people can't arrive at those on their own. But it's to be expected that people can arrive at their own opinion after hearing others'.

>>99540
>Idiotic white supremacist Drumpf assaults and verbally abuses a completely innocent media member who did literally nothing wrong

vs

>President-Elect Trump asked a reporter to be quiet so another reporter could ask a question without being shouted over

What is the difference between these two statements? Can you not see how this kind of skewing affects audiences? This is exactly how the media has been operating.

>>99542

>>99310

>>99542
What an absolute load of shit. I listen to a fuckton of MSM news outlets and none of them make this claim. I've also heard the clip and that's not what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGh_E9KybGM

In fact here it is, from a right-bias source.

>>99539
Truth with a capital T, obviously. That is, complete fucking bullshit.

You missed your stop, cumguzzler.

>>>/pol/

>>99553
It was hyperbole for the sake of illustrating my point, you fucking retard.

>>98949
With that pointing and that expression, he looks like Putin with worse makeup, and somehow, worse hair.

>>99130
Don't be a sheep.
Holy Fuck Jesus in the ass, CNN is fake news.
They run fake news 24/7 keep you being a sheep
Praise Trump for being truthful.

>>99556
>It was hyperbole
Bullshit
>for the sake of illustrating my point
A bullshit point
>you fucking retard.
No, fuck you.

>>99562
u mad, libtard?

She lost, fucking deal with it you bitch. Hillary is a LOSER and will always be a LOSER, just like her supporters.

>>99559
Yeah, wake up sheeple.

>>99565
>She lost, fucking deal with it you bitch. Hillary is a LOSER and will always be a LOSER, just like her supporters.
>fuck off retard
>Jokes on them, I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>98952
The left never should have tried to lump real news in with fake news. Infowars, breitbart, rebelmedia, etc. they are not fake news and they are not the same as nbc.com.co. This is hilarious to me because their childish plans to smear alternative news sources as "fake news" has backfired and hopefully (it won't happen) they learn from their mistakes.

>>99591
>Infowars, breitbart, rebelmedia, etc. they are not fake news
I don't think anyone called these places fake news, but they definitely aren't real news. They're right-wing spin sources, and frequently report on fake news (and make up some of their own.)

>This is hilarious to me because their childish plans to smear alternative news sources as "fake news" has backfired and hopefully (it won't happen) they learn from their mistakes.

Just because right-wingers decided to co-opt the term "fake news" doesn't mean identifying fake news websites was unjustified. This isn't an "us vs. them" situation, we're one country undivided and indivisible, remember?

>>99593
>I don't think anyone called these places fake news
Except they did, I picked them because they were the ones I remember being on the original "fake news" list. It was blatantly a strategy to smear websites that went against the narrative.

> This isn't an "us vs. them" situation
These journalists do not have your interests in mind, it will always be an us vs them until they finally get their heads out of their asses and act like decent journalists for once in their lives.

>>99596
>Except they did, I picked them because they were the ones I remember being on the original "fake news" list.

You forgot to mention that the "fake news list" was published on the Daily Dot, not MSM even by a longshot.

Not only that, but Occupy Democrats was also on the list, so it wasn't only going after right-spinning alt news. It was going after news websites which provided clickbaity and misleading titles repeatedly, which Breitbart and Infowars both have done in the past and continue to do.

>These journalists do not have your interests in mind, it will always be an us vs them until they finally get their heads out of their asses and act like decent journalists for once in their lives.

Who are "these journalists"? I'm free to make my own decisions about which news I consume. If you call something fake news, you'd better back it up or it had better be well known. This is in comparison to the /pol/ version of fake news, which is anything that doesn't fit their narrative.

>>99593
sorry, charlie, they are real news, as the stories they put forward have been seen to be true time and time again.

Today, the only real news is alternative news.

As much as the associated press claims to be a public service they are governed by economics just as every other business in america. The fake news sites saw an oppurtunity to make money and while a few may have had ulterior motives of trolling in mind i doubt it was political terrorism as much as people who saw an oppurtunity to make a quick buck

>>99559
>his argument is that we need to 'wake up'

>>99139
>Under the trump administration retweets and youtube votes are the main avenues of public feedback

>>99530
>every journalist from a political identity are liars
stop, you look like a child

>>99542
>tries to make point about neutrality
>can't even make his 2 simple examples neutral
see how difficult it is?

was this the reporter that asked him 3 questions?
or just some random CNN dude with a microphone (that no one took away for some reason)

>>98952
>CNN is NOT fake news.

But it is. They published a fake story without checking their facts. That is the definition of Fake News my man.

Donald Trump will prove himself to be the best president in US history. All of the prejudiced, agenda-driven SJWs, who are so partisan that you can't even respect the fact that the media have been engaged in all-out, fake news assault of Trump since day one, will come to realize this in 8 years time.

>>99654
>[Citation needed]

>>99655
What is Pissgate for 500?

>>99537
>CNN is not a left-wing news organization.
Honestly, I get some of your other points, but when you say shit like this it makes one question your grip on reality.

This is the news organization of repeated "technical difficulties," whenever negativity of Clinton started to get too rough.This is the network that blatantly lied through its teeth about Sylville Smith's sister's words to protect the image of victimhood. This is the organization that employed Donna Brazile when she decided to hand off questions to the Clinton campaign.

>>99607
Well hold the fuck up. Is fake news designed to target off the wall unmitigated bullshit or is it fair game to throw it at something you deem employs "clickbaity," and "misleading," titles? Because that kind of shit happens everywhere.

The fact your shifting goalposts on this point makes it increasingly obvious the fake news stunt was never anything but an attempt to provide an obvious evil and subtly group ideological opposition in with it to strangle nascent alternative media outlets.

>>99629
Being woke is all the rage these days I hear.

CNN did a fine job covering the intelligence report leak; they didn't speculate on what was contained in it or the "golden shower" stuff.
It was BuzzFeed that sensationalized that bit and CNN somehow ended up catching the flak from it.

>>99738
Buzzfeed, Gawker, and other sites like them are better propaganda for the right then anything they could have come up with it. Stories like pissgate not only discredit themselves, but discredit journalism in general and make shit that we should actually be alarmed about harder to see.

>>99567
Oh you are so cute.
>Being 12
>Attempting to debate with adults
>Repeating arguments you heard your drunken father say
>While he scratches his ball on the couch he hasn't left since he lost his job

>>99648
Don't be mind-fucked idiot.
A failure to vet is not the same as saying all their reporting is fake.

You might realize this once you get to high school.

>>99661
>Well hold the fuck up. Is fake news designed to target off the wall unmitigated bullshit or is it fair game to throw it at something you deem employs "clickbaity," and "misleading," titles? Because that kind of shit happens everywhere.

Did you read my post or did you just scan through it? Nowhere did I "shift goalposts". I said that the Daily Dot wasn't MSM, and then gave an explanation on why they, not the MSM, called Breitbart and Infowars fake news. If anything, you shifted them explicitly by accusing me of being untoward in this debate.

>The fact your shifting goalposts on this point makes it increasingly obvious the fake news stunt was never anything but an attempt to provide an obvious evil and subtly group ideological opposition in with it to strangle nascent alternative media outlets.
No it doesn't, because not only did I not do what you're accusing me of, but even if I did it wouldn't indicate a fucking thing. That's your assumption and not the truth of the matter.

>>99164
I watched the part where he paraded in front of a stack of blank paper stuffed inside a bunch of blank envelopes and pretended that letting his kids run his business was the same thing as a blind trust.

Most corrupt and dishonest president in history and he hasn't even started his fucking term yet.

>>99658
>This is the news organization of repeated "technical difficulties," whenever negativity of Clinton started to get too rough.

One, which became a meme and wasn't proven to be intentional.

>his is the network that blatantly lied through its teeth about Sylville Smith's sister's words to protect the image of victimhood.
They only showed the first half of the sister's statement, which they later came out and apologized about. Considering tensions at the time it wasn't completely unwarranted but they could have been more forward.

>This is the organization that employed Donna Brazile when she decided to hand off questions to the Clinton campaign.
And ended up firing her later the moment they found out what she did.

By left-wing news organization, I mean a news organization specifically designed to give EVERYTHING a left wing spin like Occupy Democrats or Salon. CNN is not that, neither is NBC or Fox for the right wing side.

Having a free press is important. Protecting them is important. Calling them out on bullshit is also important but destroying them is counterintuitive and leads the way to authoritarianism. That's what we don't want.

>>98952
CNN ran with a story from Buzzfeed which turned out to be falsified by an ex british intelligence agent. Therefore, yes they are fake news.

>>98949
>Not bringing up that the CNN reporter was rude and beligerent before well before trump told him off.

>>99803
>CNN ran with a story from Buzzfeed
They literally didn't. Two different stories, one which claimed the content was out there and one which published the content.

>which turned out to be falsified by an ex british intelligence agent.
A quick google search for Christopher Steele falsified brings nothing up. Care to share where you got this information?

>Therefore, yes they are fake news.
Failure to vet =/= blatant falsification. Please try again, anon.

>>99803
>falsified

It was a raw intel report. All sorts of crazy shit gets put into there. They probably have one on Clinton too that says shit like she's a Saudi plant who wants to sell out America. It's up to Langley to comb over and decide what to look into and what not.

So yeah, there's a lot of BS in it, because almost all of it is "so and so said this, might want to look into it" rather then anything hard.

Still, it was hugely irresponsible and unethical for Buzzfeed to run it since all of it is unverified, which is why they're rightfully getting shat on by everyone for it.

>>99782
lol, stop projecting

this "censorship" is a wet finger in the ear of the media, he didn't invent the term fake news

>>99806
Seriously. Trump said nothing to the guy and he just picked himself to ask him a question, which was "why are you attacking us?", which is a loaded/leading question he should've ignored. The guy kept repeatedly asking the question while Trump was pointing at another reporter to ask a question. I hope Trump just straight up blocks CNN reporters from future conferences. The guy was acting like a child.

>>99847
I'ml telling you, these sites >>99477 are the future of journalism. They'll be the new sites that we and Trump can trust to have hold themselves to a high standard, hold the democRATs and leftards accountable, and do it all with great respect integrity for their jobs.

>>99849
I can't tell who's trolling who anymore.

>>99803
You think this and post? Are you not ashamed?

Keep up anon.

>>99847
>>99847
The journalist acted exactly like he should.
You can't ask a question in a tone that is respectful when Trump is acting like no President or President-elect has.

>>99859
I watched it the cnn guy acted like a child

>>98949
By behaving like a man-child Trump has set an anti-first amendment position.
Yes, the media has issues but the biased media market was created by republicans.

If he can't take hard questions then he should not be president.

He just proved that he can't take it. Despite the "brave Trump" memes - he can't survive even a few questions.

He is weak, weak, weak.

>>99860
Do you live in Macedonia?
Is this how you get your drinking money?

>>99862
I live in Minnesota where apparently the majority voted hillary. At least thats what i remember seeing on cnn. I work on the interstate so i see a variety of people and most (if not all) of them said they wouldnt vote hillary (they voted trump).

>>98969
Is the consequence you being laughed at

>>99865
>thats what i remember seeing on cnn

Well there's your problem.

CNN can't even be trusted to report the vote count truthfully.

>>99655
Look at the poll predictions from November.

>>99861
Is the same as this guy
>>99847

And they're both being paid to astroturf to sow dissent and confusion. There's no way anyone could be this stupid and unable to understand nuance.

>>99871
Hillary won with a larger margin of the popular vote than any president has in recent memory. 3 million more people voted for her than for Trump. Are you going to call them all illegal immigrants?

>>99874
>And they're both being paid to astroturf to sow dissent and confusion.

Obvious CTR shills.

ITT: We remind /pol/ why they're not fucking welcome in any intelligent discussion.

>>99877
Sure whatever. Nice dubs.

>>99877
>Obvious CTR shills
there is grasping at straws and then there is this pathetic shit.

>>99890
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correct_the_Record
>Correct the Record was a super PAC founded by David Brock. It supported Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful[1] 2016 presidential campaign. The super PAC aimed to find and confront social media users who posted unflattering messages about Clinton and paid anonymous tipsters for unflattering scoops about Donald Trump, including audio and video recordings and internal documents.

>>99934
The best part is that you think a wikipedia definition means they post here.

>>99941
no yeah, super hard to do it on an anonymous messageboard, you are right

>>99942
no yeah, the care that much about an anonymous Uruguayan dirt farming forum that they waste resources on it

>>99877
>Obvious CTR shills.
hahaha
Can't sleep at night because CTR is hiding in your closet
Do you want muma to comforty da we didims?
To touch you in you special place, again?

Trump is absolutely correct...CNN creates...FAKE NEWS

>>99596
>against the narrative= true fact
>the only real news zip alternative news
Wrong, and wrong. Just because something goes against what the "lame stream" media says, that doesn't make it fact. Breitbart once published a story about how global warming/ climate change doesn't exist because it was a degree celcius, worldwide, thab it was in June. That is not news. That is baseless, idiotic conjecture no different than me saying that world hunger doesn't exist because I had lunch today

>>99613
You're a fucking idiot

>>99991
you are an useful idiot man, and i say this with love. Believe me, until there is an economic (and profitable) way to solve it, nobody but the 1st world is gonna give a single fuck about icebergs

all you do by caring about stuff that you literally can't solve is create consent for more supra-national organizations that increase your bureaucracy and public spending, and again, it wont even work cause literally 99% of the nations would be willing to go to war before letting a foreign coalition of first world imperialistic hippies tax them to save the polar bears

loads of more important and omnipresent issues than fucking global warming

>>99993
for some background
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol

>>99965
>Creates
Thanks for stopping by.
How is the weather in Moscow?

MSM like CNN is 1000x shadier than Trump is; they are run by corporations who have a strict filter they are nothing more than shapers of public opinion. I'm all for freedom of press, but the mainstream media outlets are nothing but a bunch of scumbag liars that should be sent to Guantanamo Bay and tortured/executed for being traitors and terrorist enablers. And the way Trump stuck it to them, after all their years of unchallenged lies and betrayal is just the beginning.

>>100099
t. /r/the_donald

What we see with dossier-gate is a classic disinformation op long practiced by all kinds of spy agencies over the centuries. Spreading false rumors to discredit enemies goes back to ancient times. This has spy fingerprints all over it.

What is disturbing is that this one is being spread maliciously by the die hard anti Trump media troops in a last ditch effort to derail a fairly elected president and to make accusations which can’t really be fully proven false. Yes, the claims which have details can be refuted, but the broader attack is too vague fully “prove” false. Proving negatives is notoriously difficult, which is why disinformation is so popular with spy outfits. Many past wars were ignited by similar dirty tricks (Bay of Tonkin, Sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, etc.)

JFK was screwing Marilyn Monroe and mafia don mistresses and the media at the time knew it! Did they publish any of that? Ditto for Bill Clinton and his womanizing. None of the “respectable” news outlets uttered a peep. Evidently. fears of “blackmail” have only recently become a valid worry.

The lame excuse that when people hear of vague rumors, that the press somehow has a “duty” to publish the details, so people can judge for themselves, is also false. So how many of the media titans smearing Trump by second hand scurrilous un-sourced gossip treated claims of Obama’s Kenyan birth the same way?

Answer, none. To the extent it finally was even reported outside of rightwing news outlets was to ridicule the accusations and promote stories of his Hawaiian birth certificate, etc. which were prompted by Obama’s own statements.

The MSM aren’t merely Useful Idiots here. They are complicit actors and active willing stooges to the Democrats who paid for the lies to be produced and doctored up to look authentic.

When this gambit fails, what next? Trump controlled secretly by aliens? Don’t rule it out. CNN and the NBC are always looking for clickbait. Feed the Hate, baby, Feed the Hate!

>>98949
Like the Washington Post and New York Times, BuzzFeed and CNN are part of the deep state intelligence apparatus run by the liberal imperialists fanatics on behalf of a very desperate (and thus dangerous) financial oligarchy who see the growing economic, military, and intellectual robustness of Russia and China as a threat to their failing civilizations. The onrushing collapse of the Wall Street and European banking system increases the danger of some wild US/NATO military provocation, 9-11 type terrorist attack or assassination(s) such as the Karlov assassination in Turkey. (Trump would be an obvious target.) But to get back to the main point, BuzzFeed, Vox and of course CNN are nothing but propaganda tools of this global elite.

>>100150
>>>100134
>By that measure virtually every email of the DNC published by wikileaks is also totally unverified. And of course people delighted in the fact that they had all of their private communications to focus their fire upon. But that alone doesn't mean they were all fraudulent.
>We don't have the information to confirm or deny that and conservatives were singing the praises of the intelligence community when the FBI's criminal conspiracy against the Clinton campaign had its director deciding at the last minute to publicly revisit a highly politicized topic one week before the election.

>>100150

By your standard the press should remain silent in even reporting the mere fact that a former intelligence official provided some documents, even when that factually happened. Otherwise they are propaganda.

>Russia and China as a threat to their failing civilizations.
Maybe China. Russia is the weakest it's been in living memory. It's a natural resource economy on the verge of obsolescence.

>>100134
>>100150
Smells like a false flagger, not that I disagree with you.

>>100155
>Russia is the weakest it's been in living memory. It's a natural resource economy on the verge of obsolescence.

They still have nukes though, and that gives them a lot of leeway.

It is interesting folks are calling this liberal propaganda when it's done more to generate sympathy for Trump than anything. Trump called CNN fake news after CNN hadn't done anything but report that a leak happened and though they mentioned buzzfeed as the originator, they added a disclaimer that it was unverified.

CNN was blamed merely because the right assumed people would believe the contents of the documents. But whose fault is that really? CNN didn't try and convince anyone the leak contained true information.

Trump has prided himself in being outrageous. So people have a lower threshold when it comes to giving him benefit of doubt for being responsible for outrageous acts. If you play with fire, sometimes you will get burned.

>>100159
>lower threshold
*higher

>100150 Here's your (you)
>100134 Here's your (you)

If Trump wasn't reacting like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, if the people he surrounded himself with didn't have so many connections to Russia, if allied intelligence agencies weren't freaking out about him, and if he wasn't taking such a soft stance on Russia (and to preempt you, no, you can be critical of Putin/Russia without fucking going to war with them; stop trying to play it like the only two choices are between allying and nuclear war), I'd be more critical of Trump's detractors. This could all be coincidence, but in politics, usually all you have to go off of is circumstantial evidence, and there's a lot of shit swirling around the Trumpbowl.

Also, I hated Hillary Clinton, and consider her to be compromised by corportist interests, so don't try to paint me as a Shillary supporter either.

>>99784
>One
No. It's happened more than once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWqa2EIBAxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiYsWUweJ8M

>They only showed the first half of the sister's statement...
No, they showed a tiny fraction of her statement and then blatantly lied about what her message was when anyone who had seen the statement could see reality was 180 degrees of what CNN was saying. They apologized because they got caught. They weren't worried about inflaming racial tension either, that's an obvious excuse to deflect from a complete fabrication they made when they could have canned the bit altogether if that was their true intention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zZ3xN9xHwg

>And ended up firing her later...
I'm not entirely convinced that would have happened under normal circumstances. It seemed more like an attempt to kill another collusion scandal between the media and the Clinton campaign at a time when one after the other was seriously damaging her polling numbers.

Calling out their bullshit doesn't seem to do anything but make them more careful with it and inspire some rather amusing outlandish and intelligence-insulting excuses for said bullshit. CNN has been little more than an establishment cock-sucker since days of the first Gulf War, which makes it unsurprising to see it become such a shell of flimsy leftwing groupthink in the wake of Obama's administration.

>>100159
>CNN hadn't done anything but report that a leak happened
CNN A GOOD BOI HE DINDUNUFFIN. YALL DRUMP BOIS BE FACIS. THEYS JUST TRYN TO GET SUM OF DEM STORIES FOR DEM ARTICLES.

>>98949
Obama did the same thing to Fox News when he came to power.

Fox reporters weren't belligerent to him in press conferences and shouting over other reporters, so he never had to shut them down like Trump did.

CNN isn't fake, but it is extremely biased (their top reporters colluded with Hillary to influence the election) and doesn't hesitate to blur the truth to hurt Trump.

He was completely justified in his reaction.

>>99090
And you think anyone that supported the Dark Queen wasn't equally deluded?

>>100199
What exactly is it that you think Hillary did?
>inb4 murders
This gonna be good.

>>99877
Stop feeling so self-important. Nobody gives a shit about this website besides the losers that argue on here everyday. Do you really think they're going to pay some intern to come on here and argue with thick-skulled alt-right /pol/sters that think they're fighting a holy meme war?

>>99993
>gets triggered this hard by the mention of global warming

When will MSM learn that Trump thrives on publicity and that all these 'scandals' do nothing but fire up his supporters.

>>100134
I don't think Libs pushed this because they thought it would derail the election.... They're pushing it for the same reason people pushed the Obama birth certificate. They're mad and need to channel their anger at the guy who beat them.

>>99613
Which Alex Jones movie should i point you to to prove you're an idiot

>>100223
You're the bigger idiot for believing Alex Jones movies.

>>100207
>all these 'scandals' do nothing but fire up his supporters.
He has fewer and fewer supporters every day.

>>100225
Keep telling yourself that while the MSM's viewer count keeps dropping and the NY times has to rent more of their building out to cover costs.

Alex at infowars is alright.

>>100240
As is typical with the generation who only knows Fox News Channel as "The #1 name in news", you seem to think viewership is an indicator of quality.

>>100243
...alright for selling penis pills, filters, and homeopathic powders to doomsday preppers and conspiratards since 1996.

Im an old white guy, the penis pills is not helping according to statistics in advertisements between 2005-2017

Will they make my Penis bigger? What is the offending website?

>>100225
To be fair, the mainstream media seems to be racing him to the bottom. Even hard progressives are starting to turn on it and the nonsense fabricators like Buzzfeed, Vox, Vice and the decaying corpse of Gawker.

>>100396
I'm so sick of the myth of the liberal media. Do you know what the #1 mainstream news site is? It's drudgereport. Do you know what the #1 mainstream news network is? It's FoxNews. In light of this, if you think the media is "liberal" then you don't know how to use google to find new sources.

Buzzfeed, Vox, Vice, and Gawker are clickbait. Their entire purpose and business model is to outrage liberals as much as possible for adsense money. That doesn't mean what they say isn't necessarily untrue, but they will take things out of context or tell half the story as long as it serves their partisan purposes. If it were just these sites serving news on the internet then the myth off the "liberal MSM" would be a reality. But in reality these sites have their partisan reciprocals: Breitbart, PJmedia, Infowaras.com and Therightstuff.biz, etc... These aren't the only sites doing this, nor are they limited to just liberals doing it. Rush Limbaugh fills the heads of just as many people as Rachel Maddow does. The "mainstream" media hasn't been liberal in at least 20 years; it's pretty much a 50/50 split between corporate right wing and corporate left wing.

>>100401
>FOX News Channel (FNC) finished January as the most-watched cable news channel, marking 14 consecutive years topping the genre

http://press.foxnews.com/2016/02/fox-news-channel-marks-14-years-as-1-cable-news-channel-in-january/

>>100468
No idea about the validity of this site, nor does it properly source it's numbers, but I thought i'd post it anyways

> The network’s The O’Reilly Factor is the No. 1 ranked cable news program for the year, in overall audience, among 25-54 year olds – and with 18-49 year olds.

>Among cable news programs, FNC secured 14 of the top 15 programs in total viewers. Bill O’Reilly’s 3.3M viewers edged out No. 2 ranked The Kelly Factor’s 2.7M.

>FNC also landed seven of the top 10 cable news programs for the year in adults 25-54.

>FNC also has seven of the top 10 programs in the younger 18-49 demo, with O’Reilly, Kelly and Hannity taking the top 3, in that order.

>Primtime: FNC: 2.439M total viewers; 485K A25-54
CNN: 1.275M total viewers; 431,000 A25-54
MSNBC: 1.092M total viewers; 273K A25-54

>Total Day:
FNC: 1.394M total viewers; 281K A25-54
CNN: 761K total viewers; 235K A25-54
MSNBC: 608K total viewers; 154K A25-54

http://deadline.com/2016/12/fox-news-channel-2016-most-watched-basic-cable-network-1201871574/

>>99085
I voted for Trump and supported him, but honestly this whole thing smacks of the mentality the Democrats had with Obama in 2008, in fact the whole Trump candidacy and early administration feels like a Republican mirror image of it.

This reminded me of the Israelis pretending Obama hadn't been a major supporter of their nation with the last UN resolution abstaining, more of the eventual same painted as opposition for propaganda for the fools.

>>100401
>I'm so sick of the myth of the liberal media.
That's too bad, because it's not a myth.

>Do you know what the #1 mainstream news site is? It's drudgereport. >Do you know what the #1 mainstream news network is? It's FoxNews.
Non sequitur. Their recent uptick in popularity doesn't change the fact that the MSM has acted as a de facto proganda arm of the Obama adminstration.

Moreover, Drudge is alternative news.

>Buzzfeed, Vox, Vice, and Gawker are clickbait. Their entire purpose and business model is to outrage liberals as much as possible for adsense money.
Yes, by posting articles with pro-liberal views.

>The "mainstream" media hasn't been liberal in at least 20 years; it's pretty much a 50/50 split between corporate right wing and corporate left wing.
Glad to see you're continuing to be a crackpot who believes saying things automatically makes them true.
Denile isn't just a river in Egypt.

>>100475
>I voted for Trump and supported him, but honestly this whole thing smacks of the mentality the Democrats had with Obama in 2008
The left had better hope not.

They're been wholly incapable of handling Trump as President elect, a mainstream cult following around Trump for 4-8 years on the scale of what Obama's had would see them all throwing themselves of the Golden gate bridge as a mass "die in" protest. (One can only hope)

>>100496
>Their recent uptick in popularity
see

>>100468
>FOX News Channel (FNC) finished January as the most-watched cable news channel, marking 14 consecutive years topping the genre

>>100496
>Moreover, Drudge is alternative news.
You can't be this deluded and if you are you don't belong here.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/15/business/media/trump-white-house-press-corps.html

Sorry but these fucking pukes have ZERO credibility anymore. They are parroting completely false narratives trying to destroy Trump's presidency before it starts, are trying to drive us into an all out war with Russia, and are covering the evil of the establishment while they do it.

What we have now is a media that is 100% subservient to the liberal establishment. The same one that ostracized Bernie and mocked his supporters, and the same one that has started wars and is trying to start WWIII. The MSM is a swamp that needs to be drained and replaced with guys like Drudge Report or the Intercept.

>>100496
>They're been wholly incapable of handling Trump as President elect, a mainstream cult following around Trump for 4-8 years on the scale of what Obama's had would see them all throwing themselves of the Golden gate bridge as a mass "die in" protest. (One can only hope)

We'll throw them off ourselves (as we burn their cities to the ground).

>>100401
Nobody in any intellectual circles takes Fox News seriously, especially after the latter Bush years.

The existence of popular conservative media doesn't mean the media isn't overwhelmingly liberal. Compare major media networks. ABC, NBC/MSNBC, CBS, CNN, BBC, CBC, Reuters, NPR, PBS... They're all overwhelmingly to the left. You have Fox up there with them and maybe Sky, but even then those are both the objects of ridicule for everyone under 35.

Then you have the legacy media like the Washington Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune and the like. They're all overwhelmingly liberal as well.

The curricula that passes for journalistic ethics these days is rife with leftwing groupthink and bias. Journalists aren't trained to be such anymore, they're implicitly trained to be advocates and activists and the internet has allowed a pooling of bias between them to the point even layman are sensing narrative shifts and fabricated talking points these days.

And that's not even touching the fact there is a very real leftwing monopoly when it comes to entertainment media.

>>100651
You don't need to do that. They do it well enough all by themselves.

>>100653
>Compare major media networks.
Why? It isn't the 20th century anymore and the number of people watching television is fewer and fewer every day, especially among millennials. The average age of the average viewer for these shows is 60+, and a decade and a half of marketing failures on behalf of BigMedia hasn't brought out the 18-40 year olds to sit passively and absorb information from a television. Each of the stations you mention have both conservative commentators and shows solely dedicated to conservatives, but young conservatives would rather be reading PJmedia or TheDailyCaller on their phone.
>legacy media
>overwhelmingly liberal
I'd disagree and so would the editor of The Wall Street Journal.
>The curricula that passes for journalistic ethics these days is rife with leftwing groupthink and bias.
Oh see now you've just gone off the rails. You'd have to be skewed so far to the right yourself to think of the media's idea of 'liberal' as anything but center-right. Unless you're on some smalltime website like DemocracyNow, the media is not progressive in the slightest and only follows a corporate agenda. Good luck seeing a serious, in-depth story critical of BigOil or The Pharmaceutical industry on the nightly news (not that there aren't stories to talk about if they only chose to cover them) when every commercial (and they are frequent) is for gasoline and penis pills. There are "liberal" journalists out there, just not as many as you'd think if you buy into the myth of 'the Big Evil Liberal MSM'. TYT are good liberal journalists. MSNBC is controlled opposition.

>>100688
It should have been obvious with the use of curricula that I was talking about the way journalistic ethics are taught in universities these days. Where do you think all these fresh new graduates go? Why do you think so many of the clickbait pushers and bullshit fabricators have communication degrees and the like?

And I'm sorry, but if you consider TYT representative of good liberal journalism I'm afraid you're part of the problem. They're little different than the likes of Vox and Vice and they're always ready to twist a story to fit whatever set of identity politics they have that chased me as a center-left person far away from whatever they had to say. If MSNBC is controlled opposition (which I would buy) then so is TYT given they subscribe to the same destructive ideas that make sure the left will never be anything more than a group of neurotic morons arguing over who gets to talk first according to the stack rather than actual problem solving. That was the lesson of OWS and nobody on that side seemed to take it to heart.

>>99999
>>100000

ITT: My biased news source is better than your biased news source

>>100722
The point is that biased news ≠ fake news

>>100653
>doesn't mean the media isn't overwhelmingly liberal.
>those are both the objects of ridicule for everyone under 35.

see
>>100470

> The network’s The O’Reilly Factor is the No. 1 ranked cable news program for the year, in overall audience, among 25-54 year olds – and with 18-49 year olds.

>Among cable news programs, FNC secured 14 of the top 15 programs in total viewers. Bill O’Reilly’s 3.3M viewers edged out No. 2 ranked The Kelly Factor’s 2.7M.

>FNC also landed seven of the top 10 cable news programs for the year in adults 25-54.

>FNC also has seven of the top 10 programs in the younger 18-49 demo, with O’Reilly, Kelly and Hannity taking the top 3, in that order.

>>100724

CNN was both biased AND fake the entire election news cycle, they pushed a narrative that did not exist using people who did not represent the voting public.

>>100734
According to whom? Trump?

It's turning into one of those times where you really have to follow the "believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" rules.

>>100734

You are hopelessly misinformed, kid. Try getting some, just some, of your news and opinion sources from outside your country. The Fox/Breitbart reporting is so similar to the Russian RT channel/website, you’d think the Cold War never happened . .. and, oh, yeah, Trump’s team WERE in contact with Russian officials during the runup to the election.

>>100734
[citation needed]

>>100740
to everybody with a brain still functioning, anon.

>>100797
AKA white supremacists.

>>99851
Same, tbh

>>100841
That's the plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

Anyone got that image showing a graph of reliable news with the Far-Left/RIght at the absolute bottom.

>>100900
nevermind, found it:
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/960x742q90/924/W2LJLf.jpg

>>100907
Also if you're refering to this chart, then you're a tool:
http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/map-news.jpg

>>100909
I was actually, and I hardly see how that graph is not factual.

>>100907
Mods should post this pic in the sticky.

>>100918
No they should link to http://spidr.today/?c=us&s=count&ct=l&ar=1 any other answer is incorrect.

>>100917
It was created as a response to >>100907 by the Far Right Tools of the Plutocratic Party.

>>100918
True, and they should also post this list: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10eA5-mCZLSS4MQY5QGb5ewC3VAL6pLkT53V_81ZyitM/preview

Along with Snopes.com for Fact Checking.

>>100919
Not gonna disagree. All Hail King Spidrman, the King of All /news/.

>>100907
Where would the Intercept fit on this?

>>100907
>>100922
>>100918
>>100919
No seriously, someone with experience should make a thread on >>>/qa/ about adding these things to the sticky here. Someone who knows how to be a lobbyist should go there on /news/'s behalf and ask. I'd do it but I'm not very persuasive.

>>100924
Let me check >>100922.....

Yep, it's on there; didn't list a reason why it's on there, but it's on there.

>>100925
Find the lady who made the Propaganda News list and have her team up with Snopes.com to create a graph in the same vein as >>100907.

Seriously, I want to know where does TYT landed on this chart.

Also, Problem with Alternate News Sites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwLWq5roN_k

>>100206
yeah i do, is the biggest woo-woo talking point i ever heard

"oh man vote democrat, we have to save the planet!!!"

fuck off selfimportant shit

>>100155
>disseminating a bunch of papers with a "super sikret, pls dnt send!!1" heading talking about prostitutes peeing in a bed
>reporting

>>100932
It's funny that before pissgate, reactionary conservatives were shouting "CENSORSHIP!!" every time the term 'fake news' came up.

Now after pissgate, reactionary conservatives are the ones shouting "FAKE NEWS!!" while telling people not to look at things.

>>100205
Lol, your kind is the worse of all, you come here to make yourself feel better about yourself and are willing to buy every single neckbeard-loser meme other anons post

>>100688
Lol you are retarded, you think being left is being against BigOil and Pharmaceutical Industry and being right is about protecting evil-doers cause of greed, go look at Latin America jackass

Fucking everyone with money and authority protects the evil-doers, left and right. You can however determine how leftist/rightist one is by seeing how it addresses cultural issues, is it progressive or is it traditional?

By the way, conservative is anachronistic progressiveness, traditional view-points are atemporal and the same across countries, usually held by "disconnected" people; progressiveness (and conservativeness, which again, is anachronistic progresiveness) is about a cultural push to alter humanity in the image of its current's government cosmovision; right tries to get rid of degenerates, left tries to make everyone embrace their inner degenerate, both do it by extreme human engineering, cause both believe in the same zarathrustian bullsht.

Under that view a conservative is a progressive whose side lost last election and resists to the new cosmovisional change being imposed to him by the system. Be it 2 years ago arguing Obama was a Kenyan Communist, or be it today arguing that Trump is a Russian techno-shill.

>>100933
>reactionary conservatives
go grab a book

>>100753
Let me turn it around:

Why should Russia be our enemy? Why should it be a bad thing if Trump really was in contact with them?

>>100940
because Trump supporters describe themselves as "nationalists" so there you go, what an easier way to trigger a nationalist than to accuse his candidate of being a traitor

if they described themselves as christians they would say they have videos of Trump getting burrfucked by the mexican president

>>100940
Because they're the bad guys. Haven't you seen Rocky? Russia=Bad. End of line.

>>100951
Russia is the type of state the US should be: a ethnostate that's not afraid of the global elite and is willing to use its power to take what it wants by force.

There are no good guys and bad guys; there are only winners and losers, and Europe = Losers while Russia = Winners.

>>100948
Trump supporters seem to really like Russia though, and would like to see us drop NATO and Europe for an open alliance with them. I don't think they'd really care if Trump really were to have had contacts with Russia.

>>100959
this is true, i dunno why they failed so hard then

or maybe is all a false-flag inside a riddle inside an enigma and the strings are being pulled by Trump himself, wouldn't surprise me at all

>>100962
I think it's more like Putin is undermining Trump with his support (the more Putin supports him, the more suspicious people around the world are of connections to Russia), but Trump being the way he is, doesn't see it and thinks that Putin is actually not that bad of a guy.

Putin doesn't really care if there's a righty or a lefty in office, he just cares that the US has less power/influence.

I'll wait until Trump does something substantial like lift sanctions on Russia with an EO before I'll say he's Putin's fuckboy though.

>>100963
>Putin is undermining Trump with his support
I would agree if it weren't for the fact that its American media organizations who are pushing this narrative world-wide, they are purposedly shooting on their own feet

>>100968
>its American media organizations who are pushing this narrative world-wide,
Yes of course, tovarisch. It's the media's fault and totally not Trump and Putin's actions themselves.

>>100969
It is all threes fault, if you disagree you are wrong.

>>100970
How dare the media do its job and report on things that happened!

>>100971
Reporting on dubious pieces of paper saying your new president likes prostitutes peeing on beds is disinformation

>>98949
trump is dare to speak and he definitely dares to abolish the corrupted system we have now.. the war system.. the climate hoax and all...

>>100982
Thanks for contributing Vladimir.

>>100907
>reputable
>Vox

>minimal partisan bias
>New York Times
>Washington Post

>analytical
>Huffington Post

I've never needed the ability to post a trashman.jpg more than I do now.

>>100933
Everyone and their grandmother on FB was shouting fake news the moment it became a popular talking point. It had no cohesion or intelligible message, it was like a fission explosion of errant information full of factoids and bullshit indiscriminately bouncing in every direction.

>>100936
You're wasting your time. Too many people have this simplistic moral view of progressiveness tied to notions of forward momentum and advancement as if humanity is traveling along on a linear path towards some inevitable end. It's the hubris of tying your political view to temporal change itself so as to invalidate any competing argument.

>>98949
You missed out the part where acosta repeats his statements like a child until donald replies to his stupid ass

>>99773
Where's the line? How many times will they have to fuck up to become fake news? You know they're going to cross it eventually.

>>99949
This post reeks of sweat and salt

>>100753
>presidential candidates and their teams talk to other countries they're gonna have to deal with when elected

Huh

>>100992
> It's the hubris of tying your political view to temporal change itself so as to invalidate any competing argument.

Aha, Colombian Borges said it first:
https://home.isi.org/authentic-reactionary

>History for the radical-progressive is not merely the sum of what has occurred,but rather an epiphany of reason.

>History for the liberal-progressive is not a necessary process, butrather the ascent of human liberty towardfull possession of itself.

>f the progressive casts himself into the future, and the conservative into the past,the reactionary does not measure his anxieties with the history of yesterday or with the history of tomorrow.

>The reactionary escapes the slavery of history because he pursues in the human wilderness the trace of divine footsteps.

CNN is a piece of shit

>>101020
Cry moar faggot.

>>101039

Located the nigger

>>100992
>I've never needed the ability to post a trashman.jpg more than I do now.
Then there one for you: http://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/map-news.jpg

>>101051
>>101039
>>101020
>>>/pol/

>>101054
Post news, faggot.

>>99773
>A failure to vet is not the same thing

Stopped reading right there. They failed to check their sources on a story that could further their narrative. They ran with it for the message and for the views. They're a mainstream news source that has an average viewing audience of 960,000. They're a mainstream news source that has outsourced their fact-checking. You should be factual about what you're reporting and not resort to 1700's click-bait journalism strategies akin to the likes of fringe anti-corporate news. There is a certain level of respect that is held by the likes of CNN/FOX/NBC that is quickly diminishing due to people actually researching the facts or easily accessing the news they want to bubblize themselves with.

Don't be a cuck by talking about "amounts" of falsehood. If they're caught doing it once, then it is likely they've done it before and will do it again. The 4th Head of State(MSM) should have an obligation to be factual, constructive, and critical of all in power, not to be overtly biased and falsely equivical. This isn't fucking Breitbart or TYTs who work on shoestrings, donations, merch and subscriber models. This is the news company owned by the 3rd largest entertainment provider. You can't hold them to the same standard.

You might realize this once you get out of high school.

>>101056
Post news, faggot

>>101101
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/01/11/jake-tapper-defends-donald-trump-intelligence-report-fake-news-sot.cnn

>>101100
>Stopped reading right there.
That's constructive
>They failed to check their sources
Something that is not reserved to CNN.
You need to look at what CNN said. It did not reveal the details of the report but pointed to its existence and what it said. How is that not checking their sources? The original report had been circulating for months. CNN reported on the attachment to the security briefing given to congress, Obama and Trump.
The briefing report existed - fact
It contained an attachment - fact
It contained unverified lewd claims - fact

>The 4th Head of State(MSM) should have an obligation to be factual, constructive, and critical of all in power, not to be overtly biased and falsely equivical
First of all, wtf is 4th Head of State. I can't find any reference to what this could be.
I'm sure you mean the 4th Estate.
Secondly, if you think that it should not be overtly biased then you have not been paying attention to the American media market. The legal and regulatory obligation to be unbiased was removed under Reagan. The US media market is now awash with bias. So you are expecting an ideal that can no longer be guaranteed nor should expected.

>>99147
thats a shill trying to make newfags believe /pol/ is stupid

just figure this: the whole fucking website has flames all the way from their asses till their pineal gland because everytime they want to talk about politics they get completely obliterated by a bunch of transexual flathearther magick nazis who pretend to be dumb and then avalanche you with thousands of facts you didn't even know that existed cause you didn't even realized how far up your ass your reality-tunnel actually was

>>101211
Aren't they just trying to bluepill people or troll libtards?

I mean, I've been on /pol/, and the shit in /news/ is pretty tame compared to let's say doxing moderate reformists to their autocratic/theocratic governments or /sg/ helping the Russians bomb targets, so if anything, they aren't extreme enough (though they definitely come off as dumber then the average /pol/tard).

>>101221
maybe its a meme, you are right, i was too quick to interpret it as others being more stupid than i am, im sorry

>>101110
Of course, it is constructive. You're equivocating something to something else when they have obvious variables that set them apart; "I wiped my ass yesterday... speaking of colonoscopies". A failure to validify truths and to run 24/7 coverage on hearsay is a joke.

They're the only channel that did this. Fox and NBC both backed off until "we have the full story". CNN didn't; they ran a click-bait article.

CNN is owned by the 3rd largest media outlet. They consistently have just under a million viewers at any selected time. This isn't a fringe blogger purporting unsung claims that might get x amount of views then fall off the map.

>The briefing report existed - fact
No shit. Everyone has reported on it.
>It contained an attachment - fact
No shit. Everyone has reported on it.
>It contained unverified lewd claims - fact
Yes, so that means we get a ton of experts on the case to say how awful it is to have a President that could be accused of said claims? I watched Anderson360 before my flight home and they spun the FUCK out of this. It was a joke.

The 4th Head of State is the moniker of the Main Stream Media, as in the "free press" has a way to keep the legislative/executive/judicial branch in check. Yes, it is also called "4th Estate". Tomato, tomato.

I have watched the news since I was 17 years old. I've taken sociology/psychology/civics/AP Government/American Political Science in school. I've got about 10 years practice at ingesting information, looking for the bias, fact checking statements, looking at the Authors and where they come from, and also following the money.

Yes, but to completely ignore the biased shift from anything Obama has done to past Presidents is a joke. People in media power are apparently asleep at the wheel while we're still in Iraq/Afganistan, started 3 more wars, mass deportations, Romneycare sucking and dismantling Habeas Corpus. If the two Bush's or Clinton would've done any of this shit, the media would be all over it.

>>100934
You saying CTR are really shilling here or that it's just a meme.

I'm confused.

>>101234
It sounds like you're right of center and have a slight tinge of Obama derangement syndrome. Also you seem to be trying to rationalize TrumpCo's aberrant behavior for whatever reason. Totally reasonable arguments though.

People are acting like Trump's bad, but look at his surroundings. He's surrounded by degenerates, a den of leftist vipers, scores of homosexuals and sinners, cuckservatives, and people who submerged themselves in piss to meet a false "tolerant" and "altruistic" worldview. Many of them are barely fit to be called humans, but Trump allows them to live beneath his "Sword of Damocles".

>>100155
The Russian economy is doing way better than the US economy by many different indicators. Corporate, private and federal debt e.g. Or reserves. Or fiscal gap. Andy many more...

As far as your team America fantasy is concerned:

Russia can lay waste to the US and vice versa, btw you do realize they have more nuclear firepower than the US does, not that it matters? You also realize Russia is the world leader in ballistic missile technology, and that the US missile shield is a giant waste of money, right? You also realize that just because the US spends 20 times what everyone else spends on their military doesn't mean jack shit if they spend that much because they drastically overpay for the same service/product due to corrupt defense contractors and massively inflated prices on their domestic market and what they mostly spend their budget on things that offer no combat value in conventional warfare anyway.

E.g. having more than a 100 bases all over the world is great to fight small groups of insurgents everywhere but that requires billions in upkeep alone for personnel and logistics and provide zero value in a war vs china/russia/india, because those that are in proximity will be gone in seconds and the others are just upkeep sinks.

Same with all the drones, they fight civilian targets in pakistan and jemen, against state of the art anti air they are useless. Same with hopelessly outdated stuff like carriers, against a nation like russia those are worthless missile targets. The US couldn't possibly project a force large enough to seriously attack russia or china and have even a remote chance of success. And vice versa of course.

The US couldn't even project enough force to defeat north korea and you think they pose a threat to Russia?

>>101265
And if the situation escalates you better believe that Russiawon't be isolated, the second the threat of US intervention is gone because all their assets are tied up in a war, within the first week Iran+SA and others will overrun Israel, North Korea will overrun south Korea and the US forces stationed there, Russia will start west into Europe because the NATO forces there are pathetic compared to what Russia has at the ready and china will wipe away japan, Thailand and the likes. That's before the US has done jack shit, because they need weeks to even consolidate all their shit that's spread around the world to project enough force to whichever front they want to fight at so they don't get slaughtered in mere minutes.

The US massively overestimates their military might because they look at money spent, that doesn't mean shit. What matters is which assets you can effectively mobilize to where in what time-frame and which assets they will have to engage there.

All of this is ignoring nuclear war which will have no victor, despite the US misplaced trust in their laughably ineffective missile shield, just to appease $hilary Cunton's massive ego.

As far as a trade war goes, it might help to check how much debt the US has and who owns it. And I'm not just talking Federal debt, corporate and private as well. The only reason the dollar is worth anything at this point is because China, Russia, Iran, Saudi-Arabia and Europe say it is. The second that changes the US have less than shit and cannot buy anything on the world market, then I'd like to see how that trade war evolves, or how they fuel those carriers and pay their soldiers for that matter.

I'd almost like to see that play out just so they finally stfu with their delusions of grandeur. Then again I kinda like my life and I'm not too keen on nuclear winter.

>>101266
>>101265
Put the vodka down, Sergei, you're drunk again.

>>101268
I thought Hillary stopped paying you guys after the election ended. In any case, why do you want nuclear war? Why aren't you Americans content to just let Russia have it's corner in Europe and keep to your corner? The world would be a lot safer if the US stopped trying to police everyone else.

And btw, American vodka is shit.

>>101270
lol where do you get the tinfoil shit you spew from?

>>101271
Didn't answer my question.

Did you know that all of the past WWs were started by warmongering liberals?

>>101271
He probably gets it from where everyone else gets it, /pol/.

>>101265
>>101266
Yeah, and Russia had a shitty time in all of its recent military engagements too.

>>101272
Hitler and Kaiser Wilhelm were liberals?

>>101272
Russia is not an enemy you moron.

Their people do not like to be our enemies anymore.

I've visited Russia, they are good people who just want a good like like us.

>>101275
>this amount of lack of historical knowledge

god this board is pure cancer

>>101275

Lies, damn lies, this fag said the pre-liberals ideology that come from Bentham and such. have their influence on national-socialism, bullshit.

>>101327
yeah no, because national socialism and fascism are not modernist ideologies

>>101333
Actually it is, but why not go ahead, define what are "modernist" ideologies.

>>101339
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

>>101344

>Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined

C'mon anon.. nothing is new with tradition.

Instead use the utilitarian wings to talk about something new in modern tendencies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

>>98951
Kek. He's doing the same thing Obama did to Fox. Literally just "the shoe is on the other foot"

>>101320
For real

>>101386
get out

>>101351
It's a little bit different than simply not calling on Fox. They want to move the entire white house press corps out of the white house and then pack it full of breitbart 'reporters'.

>>101339
i was being ironic

>>101350
im not that guy, and i don't know what that wiki link says, but the full spectrum from fascism to marxism are modernist ideologies, they merged eastern esoteric "tradition" imagery, with futurism, psychology, industrialism, and cinematographic techniques, they all based themselves in the superhuman concept and built from that, nazis/fascists had a jungian understanding of it, the marxists where more atheists doe they still used the concept of false consciousness to construct their cosmovision over, however when you look at the ruling parties of both of them, they approached their belief systems as merely instrumental, they didn't think they were real or else they wouldn't have dealt with information contradicting the regime's efficiency the way they did, they thought of them as interchangeable dialectic tools for control of the masses

thats why every single of those political systems had a shit relationship with churches and why they have a long list of priests killed, those are the true traditionalists and they were all against the shit that was happening cause they were well beyond surface memes like using a swastika

>>101268
I find it funny that people fear Russian imperialism but not the imperialism of the US and EU which likes to eat up small nations and destroy their economies. Do you really think Russia has invaded anyone or is trying to take eastern Europe over? Russia was asked to come into those countries to help them out, they aren't the bad guys. NATO has committed war crimes in Yugoslavia, Ukraine and the middle east. They should be the ones who you're angry at. You only support them because the west constantly creates anti-Russian propaganda.

>>101560
Holy shit, what is with all this Russia fellatio. I haven't seen so many pro-Russian tards on here since 2014 when Ukraine blew up.

>>101560
The way I see things going is that Europe and America drift apart, especially once Trump allies us with Russia. What we'll likely see happen then is a bipolar war, with Russia and the US on one side and Europe and China on the other.

>>101567

Trump will never secure an alliance with Russia. He has bipartisan resistance at home and the collective resistance of all our allies abroad. If that isn't enough for him to reconsider, there's also the economic ramifications of dropping multiple large trade partners (the EU is a substantially larger export market than Russia) for a single small one, and we all know that his base of support is built entirely on economics and not foreign policy. Beyond these factors, throw in the fact an alliance with Russia gives the US minimal benefits at best and actively hurts it at worst and there is literally no reason for an alliance.

>>101577
Trump could and will secure an alliance with Russia. It's not about doing what is most effective or most profitable, but what Trump feels is right, and Trump sees something in Russia and nothing in NATO/Europe.

>>100208
Spot on.

>>101599

Except the president can't unilaterally create or modify treaties (congressional approval required) which is the sort of thing he would need for any formal alliance. Even his cabinet (as it is currently shaping up) won't support him on this so he would literally be alone and practically powerless (even executive orders still require your agencies to actually act on them and not ignore you). Trump would have to burn more political capital than Obama did on the ACA, and we all now how Obamacare totally annihilated Obama's momentum. Trump would practically be digging his own political grave.

If Trump wants to do anything outside of his first two years he won't peruse a stupid Russian alliance.

>>100208
>>101607
>he thinks "liberals" are pushing the narrative and not intelligence agencies

>>101682
Cheerleading for a cause is still pushing it even if you're not the originator.

>>98952
>its POSSIBLE that cnn is biased
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breath*
AHAHAHAHAHAA

I suppose it makes sense. Leftwing identity politics utterly blew up in their face when it turned out it was not just radicalizing minorities into monolithic voting blocs, but the white majorities too. Only stands to reason the fake news talking point would backfire too, and now they've contributed to their own undermining.

>>100208
Except the birth certificate was actually a legitimate concern. Obummer is a saracen plant who has utterly destroyed the United States and whored us out to the muhamaddans, chinese, and commies in Europe. He will go down as one of the WORST leaders in all of recorded history.

If the corrupt FBI had only investigated Odummber, like Trump had wanted to do, then we could have avoided all of this and IMPEACHED him for being a musloon.

>>101804
Don't shoot the messengers.

>>101897
Messengers are messengers because they're just relaying a message, not because they support what the message says and work to enact its contents to fruition. The exact confusion is why your phrase exists, because it imparts a barrier of "this is just the info," between the information and someone saying it. Liberal cheerleaders on the other hand are very much in favor and supportive of the intelligence agencies and what they have to say about Russia.

>>101965
Partisan tit for tat is stupid, and our winner take all system that disincentivizes compromise and good policy is killing America, but Trump is doing a very bad job in general of assuaging people's of these rumors and allowing these rumors to fester.

If Trump showed neutrality when speaking of Russia instead of praising it, if there wasn't so much that could be drawn from all the faint webs back to Russia. In an ideal world, this should be laughed back at much as the birther or "Bush did 9/11" conspiracies were, however, it is alarming to hear these rumors, then see Trump talking about how great Russia is or how NATO/Europe is obsolete.

Me myself, I am sitting on the fence, as I don't trust anyone. Trump, Russia, the CIA/NSA/FBI, and Congress all lie. As such, I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt that I give to other Presidents and attribute his bad acts or missteps to incompetency or ignorance rather then malice. If he does validate these conspiracies with action, such as dropping Europe and privileging Russia, then I will be willing to believe almost everything the IC is saying on him.

Well it was a good thread until /pol/ showed up.

>>101638
He can lift sanctions through EO and deny NATO support.

>>102033
4chan has always been an alt-right site.

>>101638
He can unilaterally apply tariffs and sanctions. How much do you think Europe would be willing to cooperate if he were to slap them with trade restrictions?

>>101970
>>102059
>>102071
>>101567
So what if he's freindly with Russia. Let Russia do what it wants? Obumbo is one more adz anyways! If Trump calls the military home from Europen, then it can't possibly be that Trump is removing a THREAT to getting us into nuclear WWIII? If I was Trump I'd make a speech to the American people and with maps show them where Obama put troops, and telling them that we are NOT going to war with Russia and that the these troops are coming home. If they want to think that I'm in bed with Putin, so be it. Let Russia and Europe deal with their own problems. However, America will not go to war for no reason other than Obama put the troops there before he left office. If America wants to attack someone, it should be China, not start WWIII with Russians.

What in the world is wrong with these fools? Well, the war may still start even with Trump in office thanks to Congress. That way, Killary and Banito HUSSEIN Obumussolini could get the final laugh on Trump and the American people.

>>102074
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-internet-trolls-and-donald-trump-2016-7

>>102062
"We've always been at war with Eastasia."

>>102086
>doesn't know that old /n(ews)/ was what spawned /pol/ to begin with

>>102131
I was there. It has nothing to do with this place.

>>102033
What do you expect? /pol/ shows up when the retards they oppose start talking at length. This is something so many people who bitch about /pol/ don't seem to understand.

Also, it's possible for people to actually have opinions that are counter to yours without them being some boogeyman label. It's also possible for those people to have different interests. Not everything is a concerted effort. I don't go to /pol/ and yet I've been labeled a /pol/tard countless times for the most innocuous opinions and I'm fucking sick and tired of lazy thinkers whining about it every time the discussion doesn't go their way.

>>102162
They should go back to their safe spaces on tumblr and reddit.

>>102164
Instead /pol/ should just stay on /pol/ and let the adults talk in here.

>>102162
>/pol/ shows up when the retards they oppose start talking at length
/pol/ are the only retards in the situation.
>Also, it's possible for people to actually have opinions that are counter to yours without them being some boogeyman label.
Tell it to the /pol/tards calling everyone who disagrees with them triggered libshits and CTR
>It's also possible for those people to have different interests.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
>Not everything is a concerted effort.
Not everything is individually different either.
>I don't go to /pol/ and yet I've been labeled a /pol/tard countless times for the most innocuous opinions
If completely unrelated people all tell you the same thing then maybe you should listen.
>I'm fucking sick and tired of lazy thinkers whining about it every time the discussion doesn't go their way.
I'm fucking sick and tired of /r/the_donald rejects who got lost on their way to /pol/ and/or think this board is like the old /new/ board. Most of them live in a bubbleworld of unreality full of old campaign rhetoric and conspiracy theories.

did anyone just see that WH press briefing? that was really strange

>>102199
They've already labelled the media as their enemy. I think they realize that Trump does best when running against something else, and the MSM make a pretty good punching bags at this moment of time.

It was really surreal though. The briefing sounded angry, and petty, and really gave off an air (to me) of an administration that is insecure, unconfident, and combative.

>>102168
Your mistake is assuming you're an adult just for having non-/pol/ opinions.

>>102174
No, /pol/tards are far from the only retards in these situations and you know that. Stop being so fucking partisan and disingenuous.

You're excusing lazy as fuck thinking that validates writing someone off just because they fall in line with your presumptions. Address the fucking arguments or fuck off. This impotent whining over people not sharing your opinion hailing from your boogeyman den of choice is fucking juvenile. As is this argumentative style where you quote every other line and turn the mere act of responding into a tedious chore.

>>102663
>>>/pol/

>>102689
No argument and doubling down on stupidity. And to think people like you assert the /pol/tards are alone in ruining this board.

>>102689
How does it feel to keep getting btfo by /pol/, liberal?

>>102699
>>102700

FAKE NEWS

>>102699
>>102700
>>>/pol/

>>102704
?

>>102706
You know this is only reinforcing my point yes? It's kind of hard to argue /pol/tards in all their idiocy are the sole bane of this board's existence when you're spamming complete non-responses like that.

>>102700
You aren't helping by being a giant fucking caricature either. You give simple minded retards an excuse to double down on "muh tumblr," or "muh /pol/" whenever they want to ignore an argument they either don't like or simply can't refute.

>>102706
FAKE NEWS

>>102710
I don't care what you think it reinforces. Nobody promised you to take the high road. The people who are not /pol/ simply want /pol/ to go back to /pol/ and stay there, and the stupid back and forth is going to continue until that happens (which means forever).

>>102712
>>>/pol//

>>102714
Stop calling everything you don't like /pol/ and I might calm down.

>>102714
The problem is the people telling others to go back to /pol/ are often doing it simply because they've run into an argument they don't like. Telling someone who's never been there to go back simply for dissident thought is nothing but incredibly lazy nonsense.

You're overselling your ability to accurately label people and what's worse, you're using that "ability," to ignore arguments and build an echo chamber. They're not /pol/ just because you say they are. They're not /pol/ just for espousing a right of center opinion you're simply tired of hearing.

>>102716
If you want to calm down, turn to drugs and alcohol. I'm not here to be your psychotherapist.

>>102720
I could not disagree more. These pests must be told to Shoo! like any other. Nobody here is claiming to be better than /pol/ by doing so, nor is it going to stop because you felt like sitting on a high horse.

>>102720
you should come to /pol/, we liek open minded individuals like you, abandon this cesspool, come home white man!

>>102724
FAKE NEWS

>>102723
And what of the pests who substitute arguments with lazy links to other boards they wildly assume their opposition is a regular of? If your shooing has nothing to do with making this board better than /pol/ then I can only assume it's because you're striving for intellectual conformity.

Are you telling people to go to /pol/ because posters are shitposting with outlandish extremism or because you're simply tired of finding contrary thought? If your spiel isn't about making /news/ a better place free of /pol/tard nonsense, I can only assume it's the latter.

>>102724
Not interested. Echo chambers are cesspools by their very nature.

>>102729
>Echo chambers
lol half the thread on /pol/ are "/pol/ BTFO"

how many of those do you see anywhere else

>>102763
I guess that shows I don't go to /pol/ then and if half the threads there consist of that I don't think I'm going to change that.

>>102763
So what ?
Every response to a pol btfo thread is cuck faggot or gas the kike niggers.
And the other half of the threads are memeing a made up god for happenings via frog posting and double digits.
Its incredibly pathetic juvenile and retarded.

>>99005
Cuckedcucks sure like the c word

>>102720
Most of the time >>>/pol/ is appropriate

Certain arguements dont belong here. Be racist if you want but stay on topic.

>>98949
>Says CNN is fake news
>Praises FOX as real in a tweet later

Fuck man at least be consistent, I hate the way ALL big-name news stations are handled these days, its all sensationalist bullshit.

Oh wait, I forgot, this isnt really about fake news and deconstructing our media, this is about "b-but they hurt my feelings"
Why are trump and his supporters such fucking hypocrites, they get just as triggered as SJWtards.

>>104486
Something something horseshoe theory
- Plato

something something cuntflaps wop train coonstamps gorilla oils

>>98949
Honestly this type of shit is what makes me the most uncomfortable. Why the fuck is the president trying to tell us which news organizations we have to listen to?

>>104725
Because his advisor runs (ran) a media organisation

It would be hilarious if it wasn't terrifying

>>104725
Because of this: >>104620

The media is free to jump on the trump train too. Even losers like them might be welcome as human urinals.

>>105028
that job is for your mom

fake news BTFO