Angela Merkel says, incident in the Berlin Christmas market was

>>93345
In response, she's only going to import 300,000 potential terrorists every year

>>93345
Wow, what a shocker, captain obvious!

Self-driving trucks when?

>>93352
"normal" car accidents involving heavy vehicles are pretty common too. But I suppose it's also true that the timing and location of this one is extremely suspicious.

In response, Angela Merkel has proposed a moratorium on Christmas celebration and festivities until further notice

>>93345
Merkle is already on the wrong side of history. She'll be remembered as a villain by future generations.
This is all on her. She played the german ethic for looking like nice guys and milked it until we had rapes and murders on the streets.
If she hadn't come to power perhaps none of this would have happened in Germany

Hopefully some one who has a brain *cough* afd *cough* gets elected next, it's time to make Germany a safe place.

>>93399
>afd
that safety would come with a big pricetag

>>93401
the price would be worth it

>>93347
everyone is a potential terrorist anon. Even you

>>93407
Not me!

>>93407
You're right. Animu nerds on 4chan are just as likely to be terrorists as people being imported from radicalized third world countries that have in all likelihood grown up in an environment of hating the West.

>>93401
There is literally no reason not to vote for AFD now, considering your other options are to lay down quietly and die while your government replaces it's own people.

It's a matter of survival now.

>>93414
>Animu nerds on 4chan are just as likely to be terrorists

Like the guy who shot up the black church in NC? Or the guy who shot up the pizza parlor during pizzagate?

>>93437
>Thinking the pizzagate false flag guy was legit.

>>93345
Oh really Merkel
Interesting input!

>>93399
kek

>>93437
>shot up

Trying hard

In driver seat was a terrorist. Truck was hijacked in some muslim district - killed driver was on call with a cousin. He(polish driver) was attacked and put a fight, but was stabbed to death.

>>93357
the liberal response: take our freedoms away

>>93401
>that safety would come with a big pricetag

How much?

$40

$40,000

$Your right to go to a fucking Christmas market and NOT be murdered?

>>93499
>>93401
The most economic way to answer this question would be to set up concentration camps. Deporting them is too costly, and nobody would accept them.

>>93478
>(polish driver) was attacked
polacks are always beaten, whether its by russians, germans, muslims etc... truly a shit tier people

>>93797
Well...
>was attacked and put a fight
that's still better than a german roadkill.

>>93345
it was an act of refugeeism

>>93781
>Deporting them is too costly
Just like with the perpetrator, who, apparently, was set up to be deported somewhen in 2015?

>>93401
Poland probably wont allow you to reuse ur old facilities in Auschwitz and Birkenau

>>93962
This was supposed to be replied to this:
>>93781

Your chances of dying in a terrorist-related attack in Western Europe or the U.S. are still lower than those of dying by lightning strike.

In other words, if there is no other choice for safety than to vote afd, and it is worth the heavy price tag, then there is also no other choice for safety than to wear NEW STEEL-MESH-LINED SHOES. They will ensure that in the event of being struck by lightning the voltage will not be increased significantly due to the high resistance between your feet and the ground, thus improving your chances of survival by a factor of 10 or more on average. Only 350E if you order now!

>>93968
Is the government importing 1000's of volts worth of lightning into the country?

>>93968
>The immigrant crisis has no financial cost
>The immigrant crisis has no social cost
>The immigrant crisis has no political cost
Yes, retard. While the number of deaths and rapes at the hands of migrants are relatively few compared to the number of German people, making the chance of an individual German being attacked low, they are relatively high compared to the number of actual migrants, making the chance a random migrant is dangerous and likely to commit crimes very higher.

Right now, faith in the German justice system is at an all time low, along with the ruling political party and Nationalism is poised to do extremely well in following elections. These are costs of Europe's handling of the migrant crisis, which has turned the continent into a powder keg and retards like you are going to appose the measured, democratic change necessary to fix the problem until civil war and full-on sectarian conflict has already broken out.

>>93974
>making the chance a random migrant is dangerous and likely to commit crimes very higher.

Ha no. The proportion of migrants in the past two years who commit crimes is far lower than the proportion of native Germans who do so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Germany

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-crime-idUSKCN0YT28V

>>93981
We've had various, extremely high profile examples of European police forces, including Germany's, ignoring and trying to cover up massive cases of crimes committed by the migrants. There is absolutely no reason to believe those statistics are accurate, especially when your sources seem to make no distinction between violent crime and non-violent crime, as the author of the second article points out regarding the report:

>It gave no breakdown of the number of actual crimes and of would-be crimes, nor did it state what percentage the 69,000 figure represented with respect to the total number of crimes and would-be crimes committed in the first three months of 2016.

Besides, even if violent crime wasn't a rampant problem with the migrants, and it is, you still have the problem of the state paying for these communities to be there in the first place, only for them to self-segregate and set up their own laws and court systems.

>>93985
>sources seem to make no distinction between violent crime and non-violent crime

ffs. The first source: "The study concluded that the majority of crimes committed by refugees (67 percent) consisted of theft, robbery and fraud. Sex crimes made for less than 1 percent of all crimes committed by refugees, while homicide registered the smallest fraction at 0,1 percent."

You can find more sources in the WP article for more detailed stats, including from that 2015 study.

>We've had various, extremely high profile examples

What's that about anecdotal evidence?

>the state paying for these communities to be there in the first place, only for them to self-segregate and set up their own ... court systems.

The more they self-segregate the less the state has to pay for them. Case in point: if the communities are setting up their own court systems, they are not wasting the state's municipal court time on small claims, which is actually an enormous expense. All of this of course depends on the extent to which your statement is accurate. For example, even if the community self-segregates, anyone there owning a restaurant or grocery and selling food still has to pay to bring food in, pay taxes, etc.. Anybody who works still has to pay taxes. Studies from refugee communities in the U.S. in the 90s from various countries (Cuba, Somalia, SSRs, etc.) all showed that they brought in far more tax revenue than it took to get them settled.

Post when you have an argument that's not demonstrably wrong.

>>93981
>I dont know how percentages work

>>93436
>no reason not to
how braindead can you be, jesus christ

>>93981
Thank you anon

>>93981
>>94004

You want a school exercise in percentages? The report stated that from 2014-2015 the number of crimes by migrant refugees increased by 79%, while the refugee population increased by 440%. What then was the change in average crime *rate* with the incoming refugee population that year?

Take your 2014 crime quantity as c and your number of migrant refugees as m, then your crime rate is c/m. At the end of the 2015, the rate is (1.79c) / (5.40m) = 0.33 c/m. So your refugee population quintuples and then their crime rate drops to 1/3 of what it was. (In case the article or its translation was mistyped as often happens with percentages and it should be 1.79/4.40 = .41 c/m, fine, the crime rate still is now less than half of what it was in 2014, and in 2014 it was still lower than that of the average German).

Now why such a dramatically reduced rate over one year? Maybe the large increase in migrant population forged a more cohesive and supportive/disciplinary sense of community? Maybe they just need longer to get settled in before they start committing crimes? Well, it's been a year since that study and the 2016 study showed a crime rate that's still ridiculously lower than that of the average German in all subcats, so I guess we're still waiting for them to settle in to start their reign of terror.

>>94030
>literally lying to try and defend subhuman non-whites as they destroy germany
Data doesn't lie. Even covering up as many crimes as they can, they're vastly over represented.
http://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/DE/2016/05/pks-und-pmk-2015.html

>>94037
>Data doesn't lie.

No they don't. The data source you linked is pretty much the same as what the sources I cited were going on, except that page specifically is on PMK -- Politically-motivated crime -- which counts that from left-wingers, right-wingers, and from extremist foreigners. The only violence on that front that has increased per capita has been political violence by native Germans on both the left and right wing (by about equal amounts). (And in particular violent attacks on refugees quintupled in the past year according to your source.)

Yes, the data don't lie. Good source -- I suggest you look through it.

>>94030

>spoiler tags are active on /news/

Yo what, has that always been a thing? I thought it was still limited to boards that needed it, and I'm not sure how /news/ has spoilers.

>>94056

Osama bin Laden is being killed during Obama's White House Correspondents' speech, but you don't find out until the next episode!

>>93974
None of the anons talking about crime percentages are taking into account the fact crime doesn't have to be committed to destroy Europe's current way of life. When migrants and their descendants reach a critical mass their sensibilities will be catered to over native Germans. That means laws changing in regards to things like pork, alcohol, pornography, adultery, idolatry, blasphemy, what's taught in schools. Laws are not removed from society, they are governed by it as much as society is by laws. One changing will inevitably reflect the other.

And even if stuff like that doesn't happen, there will come a point when birthrates mean it's more lucrative and rewarding for private entities to serve and cater to those sensibilities within a demographic either larger than that of native Germans or one growing fast enough to spur the same rapid and chaotic shift in culture anyway.

>>94086

Exactly -- that's why in the U.S., now that hispanics almost outnumber whites, Catholicism is going to be the official religion, all signs and government documents now have to be bilingual, and soccer now has to be broadcast on network TV.

Full information from the terrorist?

>>94182

He's a real jerk.

>>94134
>Catholicism will become the official religion
Puts it into perspective how much better off the US is than Europe.

>>94134
>almost outnumber.
63% vs 16.3%.

>>94204

Oops, didn't remember that one right. The projection is that by 2040 spics will be over 20% and white-non-spic will drop below 50%.

Still, afd's fears of a cultural takeover are based on a far far far far lower population percentage, so my sarcastic note about the cultural invasion of the second-largest ethnicity, the largest immigrant population that continues to immigrate, in the US still stands.

>>94213
See here's the difference. Hispanics in the US went from low single digits percentage wise to the largest and fastest growing minority in the US within 20 years. In vast parts of the country they're not just pluralities, but outright majorities. In 20 years they've completely changed the political, social and institutional landscape of the US.

Compare that to a group with similar birthrates, more antipathy towards assimilation, a completely foreign set of cultural values, a reform-proof religion that incentivizes sedition and extremism and a long established history of inciting civil strife wherever it goes in sufficient numbers.

AFD's fears, while hyperbolic, are not unfounded given extreme minorities can wield an enormous amount of power when the majority is not politically mobilized or motivated.

>>93437
Comparing a few incidents of this nature to literally thousands upon thousands of lives lost everything year due to Islamic terrorism represents a cognitive dissonance I don't truly believe the liberals experience. Surely they recognise the complete lack of logic and are simply reluctant to admit Islam is a problem to somehow absolve themselves of any racism stigma.

>>94342
>literally thousands upon thousands of lives lost everything year due to Islamic terrorism

50 lives per year is a generous average for the U.S. (that is the 2016 count; actual average for the years following 9/11 is under 30/yr; include 9/11 and it becomes 250/yr and obviously drops every year), and that includes things like Ft Hood where it was a mentally deranged lone gunman who happened to also be Muslim and yelling aloha snackbar.

Thousands of lives are lost to terrorism in the Middle East and the underdeveloped world, but that's where the line gets a little fuzzier since those are also areas of open conflict and political rebellion. Would the bombings in the Battle For Algiers be classified today as radical Islamic terrorism because they were committed by Muslims against the French? I'm not trying to be apologetic -- it's still terrorism -- I'm just saying that you definitely have things wrong if you're trying to compare terrorist attacks in the U.S. or most-developed West to terrorist attacks in the MidEast, Islamic or not.

>>94360
I suppose it's not pertinent to talk about the bloody civil unrest that tends to follow Islam wherever it takes root until the current wave of migration in the West produces the same bodycount that it does in Muslim majority countries. It'd be silly to look at historical trends repeated nearly the same exact way over countless generations to make an informed estimate of what unfettered Islamic migration looks like or to conclude what the West is experiencing is a nascent version of what they already have in their own societies.

Sarcasm aside, it's the same thing just on a smaller level. The only reason it's not as bad as what happens in the Middle-East is because there isn't the critical mass in the Muslim demographic yet. Rest assured if that demographic keeps growing, it won't be scaled extrapolations we'll be using but actual direct comparisons between violence in the West and Middle-East.

>>94342
They're not White. That's literally the only reason any liberal progressive or far-left person supports Islam. Every grievance they have with Christianity is objectively worse within Islam, yet they support it because it's the religion of poor persecuted brown foreigners to them. It's why they conflate rejection of the religion with racism all the time, because they're only paying attention to the skin color.

>>93363
This is such complete bullshit. This dude could have done this no matter who would have been in charge. The crime he comited didn't really need extensive planing and literally everyone that could get to europe, could have gotten in to the country to do what he did. Actually the only one to blame is german bureaucracy, because he should have been apprehended months ago. But that's just how germans are, that's not something she could chance.
Source: I work for the german justices. Paper moves slow you guys.

>>94414
Well no, you don't know that. Someone else in charge might have done a lot more to prevent the refugee crisis or not make things worse the way Merkel did. Everywhere outside of Germany she's loathed.

That's also fascinating information too. It really inspires a lot of confidence in your nation's willpower and ability to actually catch and deport criminal migrants or even deport the refugees in general when the time comes. We both know that will never happen. They're there to stay.

>>94362
If you think you're going to cure hate with hate, you're wrong

>>94452
And if you think you're going to cure hate with love you're wrong. If you think you're going to cure reality with empty platitudinal slogans you're wrong. Your conditioned altruism is turning into cultural masochism. They don't assimilate and they don't value your culture in any means they can't use to better their own positions. Crack a history book and look at what has happened to every country, every nation, every region that's allowed open Islamic immigration. It's always the same story, played over again and again and again. Do not have the arrogance to assume your culture is infallible merely for existing, that it is impermeable, everlasting and supreme in converting those to it. Do not assume you are advanced and removed from the same forces that have governed humanity since the beginning.

Mass migrations have always spelled doom for those on the receiving end. It happened with Roman Europe. It happened with Han China. It happened with Meso-America. Every single civilization is susceptible to these forces.

>>94452
I love you self-destructive whites and your inane platitudes so much. Yes, by all means! Roll over! Give up! Die!

>cure hate with hate
Do you ever understand how stupid this kind of slogan is? No, of course you don't. Let's put some perspective on it. Hate is an emotional state. To talk about 'curing' it is just plain ridiculous. If I were to say things like
>cure trepidation
>cure infatuation
>cure giddiness
>cure love
>cure happiness
>cure curiosity

you immediate see how retarded that kind of slogan is. Hello! Earth to anon! Hate is a part of the human package, same as all these other emotions and can never be removed! Nor should it be!

And yet because your brains have been so addled by your self-destructive dogma, you can sit there and spout off things like 'cure hate' with complete sincerity. I love you guys. Never change.

>>94465
An Italian once told me (on the subject of Muslim immigrants): "If they were tolerant, I would be tolerant of them. But they are not so they can fuck off out of my country. I do not care what happens to them as long as they stay out."

Have the names of the victims been released in Germany?

Local news said nothing about those.

>>94362
>>94362
are you sure that you want to take a historical perspective? because you seem to believe that christianity is the lesser of the two evils here

professor juan cole estimates that christianity outmurders islam by 50:1 in the last century alone

i suppose it's not pertinent to talk about the bloody civil unrest that tends to follow christianity wherever it takes root. Indeed it would be silly to look at historical trends repeated nearly the exact same way over countless genereations to make an informed estimate of what unfettered christian belief looks like

>what were the crusades
>what was the spanish inquisition
>what were the witch hunts
>what were the protestant-catholic wars
>who were the fanciscans
>who were the dominicans
>what was european democide
>how did christianity feel about slavery
>christianity and the holocaust
inb4 muh six gorrillion
>who were the perpetrators of the lebanon war
>what were the protestant death squads
>who was michael mcgoldrick
>who were the quinn children
>what was the rwandan genocide
>who were the lords resistance army
>who was james von brunn
>who was shawna forde
>who were benjamin mathew and james tyler williams
>who were the phineas priests
>who was james charles kopp
>who was scott roeder
>who was wade michael page
>who was timothy mcveigh
>who was anders brevik

and you say
>the only reason it's not as bad as what happens in the middle east is because there arent enough muslims yet
but anon helpfully posted the link earlier to bund which says that muslim refugees commit crimes at a lower rate than natives

so that hardly holds true, and don't pretend that atheists like stalin and mao tse tung are any better

I could careless what Muslims do to Europe as long as they don't come to the US. That is what happens when you put a woman in charge.

>>95607
ive always thought that the idiom "i could care less" was silly

it implies that you care, because you could care less than you currently care, in other places it is "i couldn't care less" which actually makes sense

>>95601
>muslim refugees commit crimes at a lower rate than natives
wow, it's amazing how when you don't enforce the laws or catch suspects or prosecute petty crimes, or thousands of rapists and sexual deviants because your police force is totally overwhelmed, all those crimes just magically don't show up in the statistics. really gets the noodle cooking

>>95623
Ah so I see you're now making up crime rates to fit your own narrative that immigrants are evil, once you start denying reality there's really no point in trying to have a resoned discussion

Poles and Serbs continue to commit almost all the immigrant crime in Germany anyway

>>95702
Not that anon, but I'm of the opinion that focusing on crime itself is pretty myopic. You don't need to commit any crimes to destroy European culture, language, history or customs. You just need a populace big enough to agree to things like banning alcohol or enforcing blasphemy laws. The most well-behaved of immigrants don't bring anything to the table a well-behaved native can't match without all the potential pitfalls of mass immigration. I don't think amazing falafel is worth the trouble.

If the Muslims here in Europe weren't assimilating before the refugee crisis, why would they have any incentive to do so now?

>>95601
You're educated but not on the truth

>>93345
Well fuck, if the DNC had nothing to hide they would have had nothing to fear. So fuck them and their shitty web security that let Russian hackers in for a fucking year.