http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38191711
Why is the liberal media so quick to defend China?
>>89295
they tried to irritate us-russia relations just to sour trump, what makes you think they wouldn't go further?
I don't care for repressive, authoritarian governments but we don't have the resources to fight every battle simultaneously
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We have to be diplomatic if we want to make progress.
Demanding every decision be made on the basis of an uncompromising and micromanaging ideology is bound to be counter-productive. We can certainly have ideals like support representative governments for all people, but we can't just be tactical; we've got to be strategic if we want to achieve that.
>PRC on suicide watch
>>89295
I never got why we stopped having relations with Taiwan.
>>89312
>I don't care for repressive, authoritarian governments but we don't have the resources to fight every battle simultaneously
I am sorry to here that you do not, but the United States does have that capacity. The rest of the world is dependent on the United States, not the other way around.
>>89295
Because they're a big country and they have nukes. It is not certain that we would win against them if it came to war. Which the idiot Trump is getting us into.
>>89343
> It is not certain that we would win against them if it came to war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGzWvVxTaU
>>89335
>I am sorry to here that you do not, but the United States does have that capacity. The rest of the world is dependent on the United States, not the other way around.
What in particular do they depend on us for?
And is it a good idea to bribe them with that every time they do something contrary to our ideals or interests?
>>89295
>liberal media
You mean corporate media?
>>89343
It is certain. We would definitely win.
Infantry means nothing and that's all they have. We have hundreds more nukes and thousands more planes, ships, etc.
>>89363
Money, money, money and money. Idiot. We drive the world economy. China would shit itself if we stopped buying all their crap. Same for many countries.
There's nothing wrong in having a diplomatic relationship with a democratic country like Taiwan. China is not the paradigm of democratic country.
>>89343
>china has hight state meetings with taiwan since 2008
>obama gives them hundreds if billions of dollars in military equipment
>trump taking a phone call is what is going to set off ww3
Gas yourself little leftist lemming
>>89385
He literally tweeted about that.
>"Interesting how the U.S. sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/804863098138005504
>>89386
He is of course right. People are only outraged because they are told they should be.
>>89386
Obviously that's not an oversight; that dynamic is part of the conplexities that underly international relations. If he took some time to learn about its history he would do us better than by smashing norms he has no understanding of.
>>89392
I think you are the one with no understanding of it you whiney little bitch. Just because carter was a weakling doesen't mean that is the way it is going to be forever. China is putting the blame entirely on taiwan and doesen't consider as huge a deal as faggots such as yourself make it out to be.
>>89392
>bviously that's not an oversight; that dynamic is part of the conplexities that underly international relations.
>If he took some time to learn about its history he would do us better than by smashing norms he has no understanding of.
AKA: "It's too complicated to explain, just listen to me and believe I'm right and do what I say because status quo."
Fuck your diplomatic complexities, fuck the Chinese government. Taiwan has the right to self-determination.
>>89394
We don't have the resources to immediately resolve every battle according to popular will; we have to be strategic.
Otherwise, what's the point of having the government?
Should we just leave everything up to popular referendum if every layman's ideas are as good as our elected officials?
The entire point of having politicians is that their staff dedicated their lives to understanding these matters at a level the rest of us won't have to, so that they can strategize in our best interest.
>>89393
The problem isn't even that he made a decision with any forethought to accept this call. A foreign dignitary played him and he didn't know any better so he walked right into it. Now he has to come up with an excuse.
>>89399
>The entire point of having politicians is that their staff dedicated their lives to understanding these matters at a level the rest of us won't have to, so that they can strategize in our best interest.
You're an idiot who prides himself on being manipulated by politicians, congratulations.
>A foreign dignitary played him and he didn't know any better so he walked right into it. Now he has to come up with an excuse.
He took a congratulatory phone call and doesn't give a fuck about hurting China's feelings.
He doesn't need an excuse.The only people looking for excuses are people like yourself- tepid, pear-clutching bureaucrat-wannabees like yourself who are dismayed at him pissing off a socialist government you envy and secretly wish to emulate; and so need to invent an explanation as to how "dumb" he is to protect your world outlook.
>>89399
He clearly know if he has knowledge we sell them billions of in military trading. I 100% believe you are just upset becuase the media tells you to be. Taiwan exists and we have been stepping our games for the sea as of late. If you honestly think that china is going to start a war with the US for acknowleging them when their heads of state call each other every year and trade in the billions every year than you are simply a retard and should stick to talking about geo politics on huffpost comments.
>>89401
>manipulated by politicians
>tepid, pear-clutching bureaucrat-wannabees
>invent an explanation as to how "dumb" he is to protect your world outlook.
>100% believe you are just upset becuase the media tells you to be.
>stick to talking about geo politics on huffpost comments.
I'm sensing a pattern in responses from Trump supporters; I don't think you're going to arrive at any meaningful consensus with the rest of us if we're stuck at square one, arguing about whether government and MSM is a big conspiracy. Conspiracy theories by nature cannot be convincingly disproven because every evidence given to the contrary is just going be thought to demonstrate how carefully the system is crafted to fool you and how deep the rabbit hole goes, further cementing your idea that you've some hidden truth.
>>89417
>implying they give a crap about consensus with the rest of us
They just want to pass their big spending, smaller government, trickle-down economic agenda just like any other time republicans have been in power over the last 40 years. That's pretty much been confirmed by Trump's cabinet picks.
>>89363
The United States makes most of their paper, and then on top of that, most of the advance technologies that actually take effort to make come from the United States.
I mean, Yeah, I guess we do rely on China for socks and shitty tools, etc. But it wouldn't take long for the United States to become cheaper than China with automation.
It's not the liberal media, it's the Corporate Conservative owned media, that is defending China, Corporations have a lot of money invested in China, and they don't want it to end.
>>89422
But if Trump is convincing to people, then as far as I can tell, the sky's the limit. You can easily exchange "small government, big business, X is a hoax, Y is the only thing that'll save you now" with literally anything repeated with enough consistency and confidence to play on people's fears, and apparently folks will buy it.