Blustering?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/09/trump-win-california-secede-calexit-silicon-valley
>>84439
Most people in the US that aren't 25 and under liberal faggots hate or don't give a shit about California. Let them leave. We will take back our land eventually. Good luck defending yourselves.
>>84439
I'm fine with that only if they let the Republican counties stay behind and form Jefferson state like they've always wanted. That way California can be their own liberal haven, we keep 50 states, and the rural Californians get to be free from the city folk. Everyone wins
AGREED! & yes, good luck defending yourselves, california. and have fun with that huge wake up call of "oh, most of the people we support have made us the laughing stock of the world"
>>84439
It would instantly become one of the top ten national economies. California fuck yeah.
But also, fuck these idiots. It's not cute when Texas does it every time they lose an election. You agreed to play by the rules of the system, you don't quit the moment the system gives you results you don't like. This is the same thing as the Trumpkins who would be jabbering about a rigged election if they had lost; disgraceful prattle of a bad loser, throwing a temper tantrum that literally lessens the nation rather than accepting the cards that were dealt.
But then again, it's all hot air, and no more meaningful than Texas swearing up and down that the time has come to rise again this year. Anyone actually believing this plausible (... or reporting on it like a real newsworthy event...) should be ashamed.
~t. Californian.
PS: not much wrong with Texas, y'all are pretty alright. Just needed an example.
>>84493
I find it ironic that the liberals are always the ones to say that we should have a strong central government, and states rights don't matter much.
Yet when when they don't like the government they claim their state isn't represented enough and they want to leave.....
The liberals did this to themselves. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call and we can go back to more states rights.
>>84439
Will it become the only country in the world that imports its water?
That should be interesting!
I noticed that the best thing you can do to idiots like these is agree with them and let them prove how right/wrong they are
The moment you try to have a conversation about the merits of their ideas, they already have a reason for their own failure: haters
Is there any way we (not from California) speed up the process?
Like a petition or something? Something like that if it gets enough signatures, will have to get an answer from O which will make it really interesting
>>84520
Probably get your congressman to vote in favor if it ever goes to a vote in congress.
Congress would have to probably pass an amendment to the Constitution or something similar, requiring 2/3 of the states to agree (or was it 2/3 of congress?)
>>84518
But they aren't. The south literally rattles its great-great-great grandfather's cavalry saber every time something it doesn't like enough happens. Perhaps you've heard the phrase "the south will rise again"? You'd need a 64-bit integer to count how often that's used.
But no, sure. Only the Other Side does Thing I Don't Like.
>>84540
You missed what I said. The right has always supported states rights while the left wants more central government.
Now that the left lost control they are complaining they don't have enough power in their state. They are contradicting themselves is all I'm saying.
America should have split at the civil war
>an actual elected politician considers it
ok its still probably not going to get anywhere but i might take it slightly more seriously now:
>Evan Low, a Democrat serving in the California state assembly, said that he’d support the introduction of a bill to start the independence process.
> Evan Low (@Evan_Low)
> In the disastrous case that @realDonaldTrump is elected, I will explore intro of a bill to have CA secede from the union. #kiddingnotkidding pic.twitter.com/gRaIIZiGga
The union must remain whole, at any cost. If this comes to pass and the fed deploys troops, I will back this 100%
>California secedes and becomes its own country.
>Cali gets taken over by drug cartels coming in from Mexico within the year.
>National guard moves in and retakes the state.
>We still have 50 states and now Cali doesn't have liberals anymore.
Don't see a problem with this.
>lol we gotta restrict guns in cali so the proles in the valley can't rebel
>HOLY SHIT SOMEONE WHO DISAGREES WITH US IS IN POWER REVOLUTION NOW
oh man
if cali secedes whole it'll be balkanized within a year
>all this bitter vitriol over saber rattling
>>84439
Seeya
>>84493
>It would instantly become one of the top ten national economies
Good joke, have fun paying out the nose for a federal government without any of the advantages or protections of the United States.
>>84656
Precisely. Some Leftists are such idiots who always believe they are smart than common people.
>>84443
Take Florida with you plz
>>84674
That's from living in an Ivory Tower. They really don't know what it's like living down below on the ground, where it's dirty and real.
>>84656
>No army, be stuck in trade deals and agreements for years, would have to start paying for its own road infrastructure, no more federal grants for everything under the sun
>>84439
If only, Californians are such fucking faggots. Always whining when they don't get their way.
>>84734
Just like TEXAS
Elections over, partisan drone. Its time to deprogram yourself
>>84738
Texas actually has a long history of succession movement, while this is just a bunch of marxoid dumbasses who didn't get their way.
>>84740
>having a long history of being a whiny cunt makes it ok
There's nothing wrong with admitting your side has whiny cunts too, nobody is perfect.
>>84742
You're missing the point, most likely on purpose.
>>84748
>hurr Marx
Wow, really activates the almonds
>>84439
Californian here. Living here is annoying sometimes. It's a single-party state (which frankly should never have fucking happened) but the regional differences are so big that people were talking about chopping up the state a while back.
>>84520
SIngapore imports its waters from malaysia
>>84760
>A while back
Yeah I guess 70 years could be considered a while
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
CA would dry up fast when we (US) takes the CO River back! F U CA! We hate you and your cucked BS.
>>84683
California is a net donor to the fed, wiseguy.
>>84567
No, the south should have been completely eradicated or put in reservations like the natives. Then the land could have been repopulated by proper northern folk.
>>84821
That bait works better on /k/.
>>84681
You guys just sound jealous. You see the masses of educated and wealthy young people, the thriving nightlife, the huge beautiful houses and properties, the beaches, weather, and women.
>>84748
You don't have a point. You are just trying to excuse your own states recent whining because of whining that you did a long time ago.
>>84822
Just based is all.
>>84680
Nah Florida is useful as a place to dump all the old people and Cubans
>>84681
Where do you think they live? Elysium?
>>84823
lol please, I'd sooner live in Nevada then califagfornia. Legal whores, legal weed and legal machine guns.
Your state is an overpriced shithole with shitty gun laws and most of your women are at least 25% plastic.
>>84876
Weed is legal now. Whores may be illegal but they are still plentiful, just don't be stupid or a pussy. All you have are machine guns, all alone in your trailer in the middle of the fucking desert. Enjoy.
Cali has the most beautiful girls from all over America who come to try to make it big in modeling, acting, singing, porn, theater, you name it.
It's an easy choice for a pretty girl to move to California when all they are leaving behind is your sad, lonely, machine gun toting ass.
>California secedes from the union after a long arduous civil war
>earthquake destroys the new state
AMERICA PLS HELP
>>84439
Won't happen.
Avocados are too valuable and like hell we'll let them go without a fight
>>84439
How would the secede? The interior has all the guns and would happily invade if it meant unfucking their gun laws and bringing the wealthy elitists to heel.
>>84439
>California tech billionaires wish to secede from the union
Funny how just a couple of years ago, the Dems were singing a different tune;
“If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that! Somebody else made that happen!”
— President Obama - July 13, 2012 —
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng
>>85235
The more people who come to see populism for the gigantic load of horse shit that it really is, the better
>>84683
No water either.
>>84823
I guess if you consider a total and complete lack of interest in anything that dumpster of a state has to offer, then sure.
If I had to actually choose to change states, then Montana, Idaho or New Hampshire would be at the top, and California would be at the rock bottom, below Puerto Rico and Guam.
>>84574
This is such a stupid fucking idea and a fast track of being removed from office with military force. Are they fucking stupid? The moment it passes they're going to be fucking invaded
>>84814
>net donor
You give back more than you take in grants, but what the other anon was talking about was the cost of providing your own infrastructure.
Does your state provide its own building and furnishing materials? Because tar and coal and things of that nature are probably brought in from WV or some other mining state.
A larger example is that your state doesnt provide all of its own water or power. Arent you reliant on Nevada for at least some of both of those?
Also how will you provide food for yourselves? Does California provide enough tradeable goods outside of taxes to pay for imports? Juat because you have a larger dollar amount than some 3rd or 2nd world countries, doesnt mean you are actually set to become a soverign country.
Take a chill pill, and do some research about the viability, and then get back to us.
>>84595
Why the national guard? We will have pulled out all of our national guard equipment and can then use the army since they would be considered a soverign nation, not deploying ina domestic capacity.
>>85267
>american samoa unlisted, but possibly above guam.
Soon samoan brothers. Soon.
>>84439
Kek, i wonder how will democrats cope without all those votes.
Can California and Texas really survive as their own independent nations?
>>85494
Water would be a problem for california.
>>85494
When you consider how many resources both produce and the fact that they both have access to the sea it's not impossible at all. Both are agriculture giants, produce oil, livestock and plenty of land. California is having a serious drought though which is fucking a lot of shit up.
Dude behind this has ties/meetings with Russia, likely just more pressure to fragment US interests.
>>85494
No modern armies, theyd both be property of Mexico in weeks.
>tfw you live in the right time to see USA/west coast become the next Balkan
>>85494
The problem isn't so much that they'll alone succeed . It's that they'll likely take multiple states with them. If california was to succeed . The blue states and even arizona would end up joining them. So on top of california leaving we have colorado,new mexixo,arizona,nevada,Washington and oregan joining california . It just like how if texas left a large amount of Midwest and southern states would join them
>>85756
lol... no
What about the counties that don't want to secede, what about the citizens that don't want to secede,
what % of the population bothers to vote?, now what happens when you tell the rest that they are now seceding whether they like it or not
every single politician who preached secession would get sniped and the u.s. government would never bother looking for the shooters
>>84439
Rich people in Silicon Valley are so out of touch with reality. They think everyone lives like they do. If they secede from the the USA, they'd lose all their migrant slaves.
Spaniard here
So California is like Catalonia then?
>>87386
Rich people in Silicon Valley are much more in tune with what's actually happening in the world than the average white trash suburban /pol/tard who read too much partisan demagoguery bullshit misinfo on drudgereport and thinks """""liberals"""""" destroyed the country.
>>85153
>Civil war
With what guns? They've banned everything, and the actual gun owners would skip to the US in a heartbeat. Hell, the entire state is like 2 or 3 major cities. The rest of it is good ol boys like any other state, except they lose more rights. They just don't care as much. Liberalism is infectious to even the most rugged of men.
>>87405
No idea. Basically, they have an entirely different view on how the country should be. They want an extreme liberal takeover. Even your typical soccer mom is not as extreme as Californians when it comes to things like abortion, gun rights, welfare, etc.
On top of this already extreme view, they want to leave the US while they have quite a few issues going on. Severe weather/natural disasters, mass shootings, and a hellish drought. Yes, even though they ban essentially every gun and limit ammunition, have registries, they still have more mass shootings then most other states.
>>87414
>Even your typical soccer mom is not as extreme as Californians when it comes to things like abortion, gun rights, welfare, etc.
Jesus Christ what red state do you live in, Conservative Anon? People are more liberal than you think.
>>87413
You think it would be a civilian uprising?
You're retarded
>>87420
OK, what 'military' would they use to fight a civil war? Also, a CIVIL war fought by CIVILIANS isn't all that crazy, considering California has no military of their own.
>>87435
You really are stupid
If California tries to secede from the Union, The STATE will be the one to do it. Not the people
>>87407
Rich people in Silicon Valley are in tune with the world...and exploiting it for a profit.
TPP is dumped and the Californian bourgeoisie is throwing a hissy fit, and a largely toolish left wing movement will support it.
You know whats going to happen, don't you. California is going to get fucked, completely, and turn into a state of anarchy, of untold proportions for a variety of reasons. This will be historical and listen to what some have said in this thread.
How do you believe they would deal with immigrants ?
Crime ?
Funding national defense ?
While at the same time supporting globalist measures such as the TPP which hypocritically fuck over the masses entirely, for the elite class ?
This will be history and failure if California goes through with this
>>87438
The state is the people. Again, with what military will they fight a civil war with? Or defend themselves with, assuming we are civilized enough to not have a war with such a defenseless group of transgender queermyns.
Also, I'll refrain from posting anymore, as you're obviously trolling at this point.
>>85125
I can just feel the butthurt oozing off of this reply.
Also
>>Beautiful girls
Sorry dude, some of us aren't interested in what may as well be walking, talking real dolls that require you to buy them cocaine before you get to fuck them.
>>87460
Good god you're stupid.
You're clearly just talking out of your ass
California is gonna be fine guys, calm your ass down.. weed is going to save everyone from all the fightings...
>>87407
Companies like Apple are liberal as a marketing scheme. They don't actually give a shit.