Trump literally runs for President

>>82152
>maybe you second amendment people can do something about that
Gun rights are the biggest single issue voting block on the planet.

He meant "do something about it", like "vote for me en masse", he's not the one paying people to incite violence at his opponents rallies, or catching bribes grim terroristic nations, shill.

>>82161
from*

Hooray, phoneposting.

>>82152
>What a spineless hypocrite

How ignorant can you possibly be? Are you seriously attempting to compare the argument of owning a gun for self defense and a potential assassination? Are you also expecting any of us to believe that, in the position trump is in with the quantity of death threats and hate he gets, you would not do the same thing making you a "spineless hypocrite"? Simply moronic.

>>82152
>conservative politicians should always be armed or stand still and be shot
>if they don't kill people that might be aggressive in their general vicinity they are hypocrites
>gosh, I hate that people who understand the danger of firearms respect the danger that firearms pose

Or MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, there is some nuance that you can't understand where most people in a civil society can be trusted to be responsible with weaponry.

If someone that is acting erratic and aggressive is said to have a gun, what would you do if you were standing alone on a stage?

>>82187
>is some nuance that you can't understand where most people in a civil society can be trusted to be responsible with weaponry.

The stats show that there is something embedded in the American psyche, compared to other nations with high levels of gun ownership, that shows your statement is nothing more than the myth you comfort yourself with.

>>82161
"This is my rifle, this is my gun This is for fighting ,this is for fun."
I guess that your gun and your penis are one and the same.
Your should get out more. There are women out there.

>>82190
Nah, you've got it all wrong.

It's like having two cocks. If one of your cocks could kill someone.

>>82189
With the crazy gun/people ratio of the USA, it's you who are crazy if you don't think that a VAST majority of them are responsible people.

Half of our nation would be dead overnight otherwise.

>>82192
>Half of our nation would be dead overnight otherwise
Fucked up nation level achieved.
Murrica, how of the chicken shits behind a gun.
Good luck with that

>>82193
thx bby
we need it

>>82152
Literally
>lmao why didn't Caesar fight on the front line
Logic
He's worth more as the President than he is as a soldier

While this board has its... "moments"... it's usually a much higher standard of discussion than this kind of shit.

OP sounds like a lonely 13 year old with a learning disability, and people are actually responding to him?

>>82213
The closeness to the election has brought out more shitposters.

And it wasn't even a fucking gun:

http://www.ktvn.com/story/33640758/reno-resident-behind-trump-gun-scare

>>82193
The best part about arguing second amendment issues is that I'm still owning, carrying and shooting guns, while you cry about it on the internet.

I don't get what's so hard about this; Shall not be infringed. You automatically lose. Why bother?

>>82152
>>82217
Nobody is trying to get rid of your guns you corporate fanboy sperglord.

The real problem here is that kneejerk reactionary retards hear some of the democrats talk about things like "Background checks on new weapon purchases" and automatically freak out and act like it means UN troops are going to roll down the streets in your neighborhood taking up everyone's guns.

https://youtu.be/XIR3Ia4Tkkw
Full speach.

>>82222
Nice quads.

>>82218
>UN troops are going to roll down the streets in your neighborhood taking up everyone's guns.
Given that's actually what leftists want, it's not such a stretch.

We already have background checks. What leftists want is something akin to a permanent registry of purchases, sales, and ownership to aid in eventual confiscation.

>no we don't
Yes you do.

>>82191
The real cocks of most /k/ommandos would be very deadly as chemical weapons.

>>82242
>Given that's actually what leftists want, it's not such a stretch.
Who are these "Leftists" you're talking about?

>>82218
>"Background checks on new weapon purchases"
What do you think the NICS is you retard?

>>82161
>He meant "do something about it", like "vote for me en masse"

Yeah right! Because not everyone knew what he was implying... Go tell your mom maybe she believes you lol.

>>82183
It was Trump who called for it first. Maybe it's not hypocritical to run from a gun, but for Trump it's pure, hilarious ironic justice.

>Hilldog cancels rally because of a few raindrops
>Based trumpfuhrer stares would-be assassin directly into the eye

Checkmate CTR

>>82218
You're such a liberal faggot that you actually think that people can buy new guns without a background check, don't you?

>>82244
Hillary Fucking Clinton. Her husband pushed severe gun restricting legislation, she will pass more of it.

>>82249
yeah a presidential candidate was definitely openly putting a hit on his opponent in broad daylight.

Just like Cunton was definitely serious when she asked if they could just drone strike Julian Assange.

Yeah, maybe your mom believes you, hurrr

>>82257
Her husband didn't "push" it, he signned it. Newt Gingrich's Congress did "push" it in the wake of the OKC bombing. Ronald Reagan passed worse when he was president.

>>82255
You're such a right wing extremist that you would think moderate republicans are liberal faggots.

>>82250
>man says people have the right to own guns
>man gets shot
>irony
?

>>82261
>Moderate Republican
You're the 'republican' that NPR interviews, and you tell them that Hillary Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, and that you cant support someone as un-PC as trump. You tell them that guns should be legal, but with safety devices required, limited ammo sales, and mandatory mental health checks by the government. You're the guy who claims to be Republican, but votes pro choice, pro legalizing, and pro globalization. Worst of all, you support the enemy of the entire Republican party.

You're not Republican, my friend. Maybe in California, you may be considered a Republican. But in the united States, you're a Democrat.

>>82262
Yes. How do you not see that? Maybe I can put it in terms your thick kind can understand
>SJW parades for BLM
>SJW gets killed by a black criminal because the police officer wouldn't do anything
Same concept

>>82282
Because it's falsely conflating advocating gun with advocating gun violence.

>>82261
>Ronald Raygun passed something worse than "Assault Weapons" Ban
This is false.

>>82282
I know this is bait purely because no actual sane man would think that wanting to allow the first amendment would mean you wouldn't care if you were about to get shot
3/10 but people are falling for it for some reason

>>82276
Yes! This is the best thing I've read in my life. I've never been either. I'm only twenty, and just now beginning to grip on politics a way that I didn't three years ago. I would've considered myself a Democrat, when al gore was running. Today's society isn't the same. At twenty, by technicality, I'm a member of the socialist party. I don't want to chose between a jack ass and a pachyderm. Those running create a perfect representation of the group they're running for. But it's choosing between more than a Republican and a Democrat. It's choosing between political corruption, and economic corruption. Not that any of our votes matter, but which would you rather deal with, I mean honstly. At least trump isn't selling children.

>>82294
>twenty
>a member of the socialist party
Ah so you haven't taken economics 101?

>>82152
Shut up, liberal cunt.

Read the declaration of independance. Uncanny similarity to today's climate socio-politically. Read the constitution and bill of rights. Now fuck off if you think gun control of ANY KIND could somehow be intended by our country's founders. Preposterous. Try to understand reality and liberty if you want to continue being an american.

>>82291
>first amendment
>not the second
???

>>82288
>>82291
And nobody that protests for BLM actually wants blacks to keep doing crime.
Are you niggers actually incapable of abstract thought?

>>82294
120% edgy!

>>82297
Your debating skills have improved now that you have learned to walk upright and acquired language.
Keep it up, we're all so proud

>>82217
Why do people pretend like the 2nd amendment is set in stone? Have you forgotten the 21st amendment?

>>82315
Have you forgotten the words
>shall
>not
>be
>infringed
There is a debate about wheather or not you can even remove or change the 2nd amendment

>>82318
>There is a debate about wheather or not you can even remove or change the 2nd amendment
No there really isn't such a debate outside of NRA headquarters

>>82322
There actually is, seeing as the constitution doesn't grant rights, it protects them; You cannot simply write away the right to self defense (Not limited to inferior and outdated arms).
If you do so, that government becomes unjust and must be dissolved.

>>82258

http://youtu.be/v8pmBdHzfJA

Joke or no joke he was talking about Hillary getting shot, not him getting lots of votes. "Second Amendment" isn't about votes, retard. Do you even context?

Also:
>openly putting a hit on his opponent in broad daylight.

I never said that, you dishonest drama bitch.

>>82323
>government becomes unjust and must be dissolved
Too late.

Why are not more Americans using their 2nd amendment rights to challenge the government?
Because even the local police are armed like an army and they will fuck you up.
Look at Dorner (God give rest to his troubled soul)

>>82342
>Why don't you challenge the government?
Because I still have the legal ability to change the government.
As long as I have efficacy I won't violently rebel.
But I will tell you if you repeal the second amendment, you should have mass revolt.
Because at that point everyone in the United States becomes an oppressed class, and they will seize the government by violent or other means.

>>82304
SKATOPIA!!!!!!!!!

>>82294
everything you said is fairly astute, except for one glaring point of stupid, socialism doesn't work.

I wish it did, truly, but it doesn't.

>>82325
If you aren't accusing him of asking someone to kill her (a hit), what exactly are you accusing her of?

Do you think any politician this side of Venezuela is pulling shit like that in broad daylight?

>>82344
so long as the first amendment can change our government we don't need to use the second to change our government.

It is a failsafe.

>>82418
>>82418
1. Socialism is a spectrum and requires further definition of implementation before you can be absolute about it not working (and please don't point to communism as proof of your point - even that requires further qualification)

2. "Do you think any politician this side of Venezuela is pulling shit like that in broad daylight?" - yup, that is why people were shocked that is what he said in the American democratic context. They only people weren't were the people who always give him a free pass and explain away what he says.

>>82315
>Comparing an amendment by the founding fathers to an amendment by some hardcore godfags that was so ridiculously unbearable by the people that the law was ignored, and was thus repealed.
Are you even trying? Repealing the second amendment would be similar to repealing the first amendment. That's why they thought of it second. Our right to bear arms is only slightly less important than our right to free speech.

I cannot comprehend why anyone would willingly give away freedoms. Why would you be willing to give away a right? Do you cry at night thinking about Jamal shooting derrel? Why should Jamal's choice to kill with a hipoint mean that I should lose my .22lr Marlin? Why are you so scared of my AR15? Does it bother you that, even though there are millions and millions of them out there, that 10 of them have been used to kill?

>>82418
>socalism can work
Empirical evidence says otherwise

Okay, while y'all are screaming about the penis extensions, I know that a few /pol/lacks are responsible for this:

http://www.abc10.com/news/nation/following-scare-at-trump-rally-life-is-now-different-for-protester/348989152

>>82436
It's a good thing that literally nobody in power wants to repeal the second amendment then.

You should really stop believing the clickbait trash that tells you they do want to repeal it, because they don't.

>>82443
Oh, I get it. you're interested in the size of my "gun" ;)
faggot
>>82444
>who is Dianne Feinstein
>who is Bloomberg
other people also want to repeal it, but not through actual legal means.
They want to subvert it by banning arbitrary things.

>>82203
But caesar fought on the front line

>>82445
Bloomberg isn't even a democrat, and Feinstein already had her legislation expire. You gun fanboys really need some new boogeymen.

>>82444
The fuck? I was replying to a guy referencing the repealing of the amendment that banned alcohol.

Read the thread before you respond.

>>82452
>Bloomberg isn't even a Democrat
Why are you continuously posting irrelevant information? What does it matter what he calls himself? He has been anti-gun for a long time.

Sure trump is an asshole, but Putin has said he likes him and Hillary wants war with Russia.

Sorry, but Trump is the best choice because I don't want to be killed in a nuclear war. Your 15 dollar min wage and immigration ideals won't mean shit when we become the Fallout world.

>>82152
>President Barack Obama believes that the candidate for President Donald Trump can't be trusted control codes to nuclear weapons. He stated this at a rally in Florida, the reported Washington Post.
>Trump
>a healthy person, a successful entrepreneur, adequate policies
>he can't be trusted control codes...
>Hillary
>she's suffering from schizophrenia, she's prone to aggression and she's disclose secret data...
>She can be trusted control codes...
Amm...

>>82438
>literally say socialism doesn't work
>get this in response
? Wrong post?

>>82525
sure

>>82242
No, we want background checks that are actually comprehensively enforced. Having a law that you can ignore if you want to is worse than having no law at all.

>>82258
>she asked if they could just drone strike Julian Assange.
Except she didn't. No one has yet come forward to provide evidence of that. The closest they've come is found some anonymous writings saying "Hillary said this" - nothing from Hillary herself, or anyone involved in the Clinton campaign.

>>82497
>she's suffering from schizophrenia
Proofs?

>>82318

>well
>regul

ah fuck it you know where this is going

Trump is the Antichrist his Father's middle name is Christ and his mother's name is Mary. The Illuminati final card that nobody knows about is the TRUMP CARD

Seriously, the antichrist is named Donald? Donald the antichrist? Oh brother

>>82594
Well regulated means
>to be kept in proper working order
NOT
>to be well restricted
That would mean the founders contradicted themselves.
Go back to fucking school you moron.

>>82593
This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DZbc8nwmwg

>>82614
11/10

>>82662
>this youtube footage in Russian is proof!
How in the fuck are there people who believe this?

Trump and Clinton are all evil scumbags. It truly doesn't matter who's president.

>>82276
This post best summarises what is wrong with politics in the USA

>>82262
It's kinda like how that fat acceptance campaigner died of obesity related things

>>82436
M8, not him but the very fact that there have been amendments to your constitution should indicate that amendments can be made to your constitution

>>82477
>this is what trump supporters actually believe

>>82719
Except it isn't.
Being fat causes obesity.
Guns don't cause """"gun violence"""".
>>82722
The second amendment has particular wording, "Shall not be infringed" that no other amendment has.
The debate is;
if you believe in natural rights, self defence is a natural right, and is not limited to inferior and outdated arms.
If a government were to ban the right to self defence, by banning arms, the government is unjust and shall be dissolved by violent or other means.

You sound like an ausfailian.

>>82724
>I'll just dissolve my government if they do x
from a legal standpoint, any constitution can be amended

>>82726
Depends on your interpretation of the language.
No legal precedent on the specific wording of the second amendment has been set.
I can garuentee a violent revolt if it is substantially violated on the federal level, or "amended'

>>82727
If you honestly think you stand a chance against the us military and police force then we're done here

Ironically enough if that were to take place then your right to bear arms would actually endanger you and they other citizen more

>>82727
not him but it doesn't depend on your interpretation of the wording, it depends on what a constitution is and conditions can and should be amended when they are found to be inappropriate, the us constitution has been amended in the past, so there's your legal precedent

>>82728
>If you honestly think you stand a chance against the us military and police force then we're done here
If you don't, we're done here.
The USAF would not fight against the men and women that they swore to serve, the people of the United States.
Polling shows that 80% of veterans said they would never consider turning on the people of the United States.

They would lose regardless.
Even if 5% of people rebelled that's 16 million guerrilla insurgents the USFG has to deal with.
And we all know how that turns out (see veitnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.)

>>82730
That's not the specific argument to the strict and distinct wording of the second amendment

>>82152
TRUMP AND JOHNNY CASH BOIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iwh-Siycck

>>82723
Well... We do have nuclear weapons, and no aliens so far. Makes you wonder. All great empires have fallen and this is the longest we've had without war. The west has been at Russia's throat for years now. Even now Merkel is saying she thinks Russia will be tampering with their elections now. Kerry is off to Antarctica and America keeps building missile bases around the world.

>>82734
No it's a level higher than the wording, a constitution is a legal/political entity, what can be done to a constitution is not governed by its wording

>>82672
A significant portion of the population is legitimately retarded.

>>82724
>Guns don't cause """"gun violence"""".
Yes they do you utter retard.

>>82732
>The USAF would not fight against the men and women that they swore to serve, the people of the United States.
And you think the entire population would rise up against the government? No, that's not likely to happen. There's no reason why the USAF would not fight a violent insurgent group just because it's made up of Americans. I suppose you also think having a criminal justice system is "Un-American" since it targets American citizens.

>>82806
>Yes they do you utter retard.
No they don't. People cause """gun violence""". It's not even a real statistic anyway.
>>The USAF would not fight against the men and women that they swore to serve, the people of the United States.
>And you think the entire population would rise up against the government?
Where did I say this.
>No, that's not likely to happen.
It is very possible if you ban the most fundamental right to liberty, self defence.
>There's no reason why the USAF would not fight a violent insurgent group
Other than they are made up of American men and women, and their families. Most of the military comes from the south, most insurgents come from the south. Polling and interviews show that veterans would not fire against American citizens.
You
are
wrong
>just because it's made up of Americans. I suppose you also think having a criminal justice system is "Un-American" since it targets American citizens.
Nice strawman, just shows you're losing the argumemt.

>>82806
>>Guns don't cause """"gun violence"""".
>Yes they do you utter retard.
are you really that stupid? Try to pay attention, mongo.

If guns caused violence, everybody that had a gun would create violence.

Except, of course, they don't. Only certain people create violence.

Is that simple enough for your stupid head? People cause violence, at times while using guns, and that creates gun violence.
Moron.

>>82821
Niggers cause violence, literally.

you do know trump doesn't like to take the backstage route? He likes the crowd. Also he doesn't want the secret service to protect him. He has never said he condones shooting Hillary, he said if she's going to disarm everyone, she should disarm her own guards so she would know what its like being unarmed in this shitty world.

>>82302
So it's a shitty false comparison?

>>82152
>Dindus burn down entire city blocks because they dont like him
>someone might have a gun
>uses fucking logic and realizes he might be at risk
>leaves
>???
>profit
fucking dumbass