NFL ratings plunge could spell doom for traditional US TV networks

Good. Maybe they shouldnt have made the same lame police procedural show 10000 times over the past 20 years on every single network, only to cancel most of em. Dumb fuckers dug their own hole by having no variety and catering to retards which eventually backfired because it insulted the intelligence of everyone else. Death to TV

I don't know how anyone can watch football without a service like Tivo. There's WAY too many fucking ads and fouls called. You get 5 minutes of actual game play for the 20 minutes of looped ads trying to get you to buy bud light

>>79062
I have never understood the desire to watch another man do something fun.
I enjoy playing sports but loathe watching them.
The tribalism around supporting one team or another ,in a sport you dont even play, seems retarded beyond measure.

>>79062
It's dying for the same reason that the rest of the entertainment industry is dying. The idiots who run it constantly screw over their own fans and try to force them to watch what they think they should watch, not what the fans want to watch. Let it all die, something better will replace it if the powers that be just let it happen.

>>79074
Fucking this

>>79076
From snowboarding to hockey to soccer, it brings me great joy to watch the greats play, to watch how they move, to watch how they attack certain aspects of the sport; watching them gives me inspiration when i'm out playing.

In terms of the 'tribalism' of supporting a team, you're right to a degree: many people support their home team because it feels good to be socially accepted and be part of a 'club'. But when you have no home team (which i don't for hockey nor soccer) but love watching the sport you eventually see a team with players you like, a coaching style you like, and they really speak to you. You start watching their games more than others and eventually they're your team.

So I support teams and yet have no mob to support me emotionally (i don't go on /sp/). That being said, i'm not the biggest fan, i watch games fairly regularly but not religiously.

Oh and it's super fun to engage in banter with your friends.

>>79077
How are the executives supposed to know the difference between what they think we want to watch and what we want to watch? They do market research, they have focus groups...

>>79081
>Oh and it's super fun to engage in banter with your friends

This might be the part I hate the most.
Is feels like gossip tier conversation to me.
As a male I am expected to fall into this mode of banter at the drop of a hat even after I explain that I do not follow professional sports.

>>79085
I get you, it's mostly just IRL shitposting.

Also can I ask what sports you play?

>>79081

The athletes that love to watch perform, don't give a shit that you, or that you even exist. If you died tomorrow, would those athletes care? Hell no.

You are giving your time and interest to people who don't give their time and interest back to you.

>>79086
Soccer , racquetball ,beach volleyball and wallyball.
I also ski, snowboard and do some motocross stuff but none of that in any way competitively

>>79087
I'm watching them for their sports abilities, not for their personality. Why should I care if they know of me?

I could make the exact same argument for you and whatever porn star you fap to.

>>79089
By the way, you are talking to two different sports haters right now. Just FYI

>>79088
>wallyball
Damn, that looks fun as fuck. I've always wanted to try indoor soccer using the walls, chipping it off a wall to yourself would be sick.

That's bizarre that people give you such a tough time about not following teams. I played rugby in high school and it's come up but people have never gave me a hard time when i said i didn't follow leagues.

But do you actually not watch skiing or snowboarding videos? That's really bizarre to me. Even non-skiiers/boarders seem to love watching videos (Art of Flight, Candide Thovex 'day in the life' series, whatever newest Red Bull video).


Also I should mention that i'm a data analyst and i really enjoy analyzing sports stats, so that probably adds to my enjoyment.


>>79091
Ya i figured >>79087 was a new person

>>79089
>I'm watching them for their sports abilities, not for their personality

That is the entire point. You are taking interest in someone who doesn't take that same interest in you. The reason behind the interest is irrelevant, just as what the other person can do or perform is irrelevant.

People like you are conditioned to need to worship something or someone. You will spend your entire life doing it, and you will seek out other people with that same need, so you can try to feel normal.

>>79095
>>79095
>>79095
>You are taking interest in someone who doesn't take that same interest in you
I see your point that looking up to and copying people means you'll never be the best but then again every famous artist/athlete got inspired by someone growing up.

It's a pretty slippery slope saying that 'you shouldn't take interest in someone that doesn't take interest in you'. Does this mean you don't like any musicians? You don't like any filmmakers? You don't like any aritsts? You don't like any photographers? You don't like any clothing designers? You don't like any tech wizards? You don't like any scientists? You don't like any chefs? You don't like any authors?? You don't like any video game makers? You don't like any car designers?

>>79097

It's not a slippery slope at all.

It's either something you do or don't do. It's just that simple.

>>79098
I meant that it's a slipper slope into not appreciating anything besides your own work.

>>79092
>Damn, that looks fun as fuck.
Using the walls is so much fun you just cant believe it. Unfortunately the sport is all but dead.

>>79092
>people give you such a tough time about not following teams


Its not that they get angry , its that they dont seem to be able or willing to change the topic.
When I say I have no idea what you are talking about and dont care" , people in any other type of conversation will accept it and move on.
Sports guys seem unable to do this and keep trying a different angle.


>>79092
>But do you actually not watch skiing or snowboarding videos?
If I was younger I might if I was trying to learn a new trick, but I am old now and take it pretty easy on the slopes.

but even back in the day , I hated sitting though warren miller movies my ski bum buddies dragged me to.
I am just not a spectator.


>>79092
>data analyst and i really enjoy analyzing


I am with you in any other field of endevo

>>79097
>>79097


Not the anon you were responding to but I also really try to avoid hero worship.
Its almost impossible though in reality.
I always cringe when people get sad because a celeb died but then again, I got pretty sad when DFW became an hero.
I guess for me I like to keep the hero worship list as short as possible.

>>79100
Yeah a lot of sports fans are your typical brainless bros, and i really hate being likened to them, which is probably why i launched into this in the first place.

>If I was younger I might if I was trying to learn a new trick, but I am old now and take it pretty easy on the slopes.
Fair enough. After living in that town with no teams i moved to Vancouver, so i guess most of my friends/family are more into skiing than your average person, hence my opinion is a little skewed.


>>79103
>>79103
I'm aware that most of my favorite athletes/musucians/artists aren't perfect. In fact, many of them are probably assholes. But I don't see a problem with realizing that I enjoy their athletics/music/art more than other peoples.

Nothing makes me want to get out and rip up the ice rink more than watching some ovechkin highlights, nothing makes me want to play my heart out more than listening to some Bill Evans trio and nothing makes me want to get out and take photos more than looking at some william eggleston photography. It's simply a matter of finding someone who makes me want to go out and produce the best I possibly could.

I'm not saying these 3 guys are the best, and that no one else comes close, they are simply the ones that speak to me the most. Nor am i saying that there aren't people out there who would speak to me more, these are just my current favorites. Also, I should mention that I do not go out seeking a 'favorite' in everything, it's just that in these 3 instances I have found someone that seems to be leagues ahead of the pack in every respect and this is, I guess, is what makes constitutes a 'favorite'.

In summary, I think following something, and finding the practitioner of that something that speaks to you the most, motivates you to work harder, try new things and improve your overall something.

>>79106
also i should mention that i don't care about/follow my favorite atheletes/musicins/artists personal lives.

>>79106
>In summary, I think following something, and finding the practitioner of that something that speaks to you the most, motivates you to work harder, try new things and improve your overall something


I think that urge is the urge to find a mentor to extract knowledge from. and I wholeheartedly endorse this practice.
However , since I am a bit older, I prefer to find actual people who I can interact with one on one to fill this need.
I realize that this is not how its done these days.

What is wrong with admiring another human being who has achieved a high level of skill? Why is that mindless hero worship? People have always either emulated or rebelled against the greats in their fields, be it war, literature, science, etc. Physical prowess is impresive

Handegg=/=Football

>>79116
>>79116
>>79116
>>79116
It depends on what their accomplishments are.
If you place great value on a person because they have achieved great intellectual feats then I have no qualm.
Being good at hand egg though?
Sorry not laudable in the least.

>>79074
NBA is hands down worse
>League mandate that both teams have to call at least one timeout at the 8min mark and the 4min mark of each quarter regardless of momentum, hence why each team is given 20 timouts a quarter
>An NBA game is 48 minutes long. The televisation of it is 2 and a half hours on average. A close to OT game is 3+ hours long, double OT+ is bordering on 4 hours
I torrent all the games since the rips have all the ads cut out, it's still close to 2 hours for a close, tight game ffs.

>>79082
Theyre also still entirely out of touch and the focus groups are a fucking joke. Literally Yes Men. Otherwise, half the main network shoes wouldn't get canceled before completing a season

>>79103
>DFW
Yeah I mean, he was kinda a narcissist prick tho by most accounts.
My only idol is Fenriz, because hes never sold out. The moment he does though, im dome.

>>79062
US football is boring as shit. Rugby is a real man's sport, and is filled with 100 times more action. Americans just need to get used to the rules and get the hang of it.

My mom, who's been watching football for decades without really liking it (you know how that goes), watched an All Blacks match with me and she was blown away, couldn't keep her eyes off the screen.

>>79062
GOOD!!

Ban socialized sports! Why the fuck should everyone be forced into supporting this shit by paying into it with their cable bill, college tuition, and property taxes?

>>79237
agreed, the stadiums alone cost taxpayers billions

>>79076
bump. My thoughts exactly. I often have to explain that to relatives gathering around the idiot box to watch football (soccer).

>>79237
Purge the footballers, sports war now!

>>79237
Because the market, right?

>>79062
>>79062
For me it's the commercials. For fucks sake, every play is another commercial break. I'll just watch the recap, thanks.

>>79388
You can watch 40 minutes of rugby without commercials, with a ten minute break in the middle, and then another 40 minutes of non-stop rugby for the second half. I don't know how people can live with commercials any more. I watched football on one trip back to the US and couldn't believe how goddamn little action there was....two seconds of action, showboating like you didn't just do your job, commercials, holy fucking hours of nothing.

>>79237
well, the whole league was started by the mafia, you know.

>>79062
i only watch to make some cash here in vegas

When are they going to start live streaming on Netflix or Hulu?

>>79082
All of which is conducted by those being PAID by the executives. It's tainted research. Same way you don't want your reviewers to be paid by the producers of said reviewed product. You get back bad data.