U.S. judge blocks transgender rules for schools

>>68397
Im sick of people treating this mental illness like its special. People pretend it's just like homosexuality.

>>68448

Homosexuals don't. Transgendered people don't. The only people who pretend they're the same are bigots. Fuck you.

>>68397
Transgendered people have been using whatever bathroom they've wanted to use for decades now without there being a problem.

>Problem solved
>I want passable trannies whipping out their post-op faux clitorises and pissing next to me at the urinal

What the fuck, OP. I don't want this at all.

Just let people use the restroom that best corresponds with how they present themselves. It's not that fucking difficult to tell when a tranny actually makes some effort to pass.

>>68448
I'd hazard a guess it's because you don't actually know what you're talking about.

>>68397
Oh boy! I can see the lawsuits now. Stupid young boysare going to play dress up in hopes of catching a peep at young girls. Either that or there will be a string of rape allegations

>>68628
Nice slippery slope fallacy you have there Anon

>>68629
Its not out of the realm of possibility. If a dude could get away with raping a passed out chick behind a dumpster, whose to say that some guy couldnt play dress up and rape a woman and vice versa?

>>68632
So you're saying this is a solution in search of a problem that hasn't happened yet.

>>68450
this. my main man right here

>>68454
without there being a problem? woudn't you say its uncomfortable for all, both men, women and trans to be aggregated into a space that's not the label they seek? In a way we already too into segregating each other after coed fun in college. I can't imagine anyone saying "I do not have any fears about coed bathrooms in my kids' elementary".
Taboo after taboo, we are in a huge web and I've grown tired. Yeah my friends would make big eyes if a crossdresser or a trans would walk into the restroom but I mean after the third time you'd think they'd have less shock? I would, again cuz I see my insecurities and then I see them and then I say fuuuck can't we get a spare room if its getting to us that much?

>>68628
most likely both, an child protective services and you know all that meaningless overprotective (mostly) reactions because of parental insecurities that they aren't doing enough for thei children because they fail in so many other parts of their lives on that topic. -Brought to you by **not a parent** - take my anon word
inb4 taking anon's word
inb4 overprotective parents failing elsewhere + not a parent
inb... a fuck this anyway

>>68397
I'm still waiting on the ban on sex change.

why do people always jump to "bathroom rapists" as the only problem they can think of with this law.

>>68629
>Stupid young boysare going to play dress up in hopes of catching a peep at young girls.
how is that a slippery slope.
as long as you claim to be a girl, noone can do anything about you waiting around in a bathroom or changing room.

>>68637
>Your rights end where my feelings begin: the post

If it isn't hurting others, people should be allowed to do it. Period.

>>68448
>Implying that homosexuality is not a mental illness

>>68647
you must first pass the test of sucking a principal's dick

>>68633
Not one bit. Nothing i said was even remotely hinting at a solution. Its something that the government should really consider. I believe to each their own, but you cant please one persons needs at the expense of everyone elses comfort levels.

>>68637
Why would coed bathrooms be an issue? I could see it being an issue if bathrooms were previously private (one person at a time) and now they can have several people in at once, but I don't see why gender should be such a big issue.

>>68642
Why would it be banned?

>>68647
Rape and sexual assault are still illegal. I don't see why a straight guy using the girl's room is any more of an issue than a lesbian doing the same.

>>68397
just make one bathroom for everyone. And if ou want seclusion - just go in a stall and close the door. It's not like you undress before getting to stall.

>>68703
>I believe to each their own
this. ban bathrooms altogether, allow DESIGNATED STATIONS instead.

>>68704
>rape and sexual assault are illegal therefore people would not commit it.
are you really that dumb, anon

>>68718
No, but it's not like sex-segregated bathrooms would prevent it, either.

Why don't people just shit on the streets?

seems like sooner or later a tranny is going to rape a woman in the bathroom and this issue will solve itself.

>>68741
How would the "issue solve itself"? You can't stop 100% of rapes, even woman-on-woman rapes happen occassionally. Man-on-man rapes are even more common, is that a reason to ban men from using the same bathrooms as other men?

>>68628
>Stupid young boysare going to play dress up in hopes of catching a peep at young girls.

Bear in mind that you're currently sharing restrooms and locker rooms with homosexual men, because we live in a heteronormative society that never gives any consideration to this fact.

Anyway, as far as I know, you're not at any increased risk of being a victim of rape because you happen to share a restroom with someone who finds your genitalia sexually arousing. Most people are generally well-adjusted and capable of conducting themselves in a sane manner around others. But you seem to have some retarded conception that male sexuality is thoroughly compelled by a need to rape. That's the kind of reactionary shit I'd expect from Tumblrinas, not edgy young social conservatives such as yourself.

>>68450
>>68611
>check your privilege shitlord!

>>68704
1.Because post op trans have high suicide rates. And it's nonsensical to encourage mental illness.
> b-buh it's only mental illness because they aren't in their real bodies
Yeah that's why they kill themselves after transitioning.
2. Sex change is a farce anyway, it does not a fully functioning reproductive system, it is merely a hole in your body, nothing more, nothing else. Allowing an outright scam like this or casinos trough law is by far the most infuriating part of it.
3. Their bodies are male/female before op and post op, their chromosomes are set in stone, their brain chemistry is neither male, nor female, but a mixture of both. As it stands right now science cannot fix these issues, and probably will not be able to for a long time. All the operation does is perpetuate an outright like.

Completely unrelated, I think yo should kill yourself because you are so idiotic that I refuse to believe you are able to draw breath on your own. You clearly suffer from mental ilness yourself, retardation and as such you are undeniably a burden on society.

Now, I've associated numbers for my arguments and separated the insults so that your tumblr following doesen't get confused by
> m-muh ad-hominem

>>68754
Homosexuals can't rape. They're faggots.

>>68454
So why do Democrats keep shoving protections down our throats?

>>68754
You replied to my response.
And i agree. Quite honestly i wouldnt care. But you cant say that rape is something that doesnt happen. It could happen. Doesnt mean it will

>>68798
Because some institutions that had access to information like a person's sex at birth, such as schools, decided to humiliate a student who had been seen and treated as a different gender since being there by saying they have to use a different bathroom despite no peers knowing that they were born a different sex.

Essentially, when enough institutions act like blatant assholes to vulnerable people, you get a civil rights case.

>>68748
>How would the "issue solve itself"?
It's an emotionally charged issue
When people hear rape they don't think rationally
So the mass hysteria and media frenzy this would cause would pressure politicians to back away from it

I'm a girl and I don't want people like Chris-chan coming into the bathroom I use.

>>68783
>1.Because post op trans have high suicide rates. And it's nonsensical to encourage mental illness.
>> b-buh it's only mental illness because they aren't in their real bodies
>Yeah that's why they kill themselves after transitioning.
The rates are higher for those that don't have access to the operation. You're basically arguing that fire trucks cause houses to bun down.

>2. Sex change is a farce anyway, it does not a fully functioning reproductive system, it is merely a hole in your body, nothing more, nothing else. Allowing an outright scam like this or casinos trough law is by far the most infuriating part of it.
It doesn't have to be fully functioning to "trick" the brain into thinking your body is the right sex and thereby reduce the intensity of gender dysphoria. It's not a "scam", it would be if doctors lied and said they would create fully functioning reproductive systems, but they're not saying that. Doctors go out of their way to make sure a patient understands what the surgery actually entails before the patient arees to it.

>3. Their bodies are male/female before op and post op, their chromosomes are set in stone, their brain chemistry is neither male, nor female, but a mixture of both. As it stands right now science cannot fix these issues, and probably will not be able to for a long time. All the operation does is perpetuate an outright like.
Chromosomes are largely a non-issue, they're just a blueprint. And yes, brain chemistry is a mix between male and female, but generally males have a more "masculine" brain and females have a more "feminine" brain. It's not an absolute, but that's true of many aspects of sexual dimorphism.

>>68454
yes, your right. Since everybody made a big deal out of it now its a "problem". Bullshit. To each there own as long as there not hurting anybody else.

>>68868
No, I'm arguing that it is a non-solution. If it's supposed to cure their mental illness then why do they still kill themselves ? Why should an operation that maybe works, maybe it doesn't be legal ? All surgeries have risks, but you're basically tossing a coin for something that isn't even life threatening like a tumor. And again, WHY do they kill themselves if now they are the epitome of femininity ? Maybe because the operation doesen't work the way they expect it to work ?
I am well aware that you have to go to sessions with medical experts, but you're telling me that people who truly believe they are not female/male and desperately want to emulate a whole other sexuality are able to rationally make this decision ? Furthermore you say the doctors make sure that the pacient understands what they are going trough, but yet, they still kill themselves. You cannot "trick" the brain into believing it's in a female body because it is not a physiological problem, it Is a chemical problem. Their brain chemistry is a mess of both male and female and thus it needs a chemical solution.
Yes chromosomes just dictate how your body is built from the ground up, but it's a non issue as we have achieved such scientific heights that we have a surgery that not even the doctors know if it will work. Also, sarcasm aside, you're saying it like we can just swap chromosomes in and out, the mind will never notice that it should have a benis and freak out.

Can you please tell me where you bought your life support from ? My grand grandma is gonna pass away soon and we don't want her brain to do too much work.

>>69020
>All surgeries have risks
That's the whole point. Unless you can give statistics that sex change is significantly MORE risky than other surgeries, you're basically calling for all surgeries to be banned.

> for something that isn't even life threatening like a tumor.
It is life threatening, because untreated gender dysphoria makes people suicidal. Even if the operation only reduces the trans suicide rate by like 2%, it's still worthwhile.

>but you're telling me that people who truly believe they are not female/male and desperately want to emulate a whole other sexuality are able to rationally make this decision ?
Gender dysphoria isn't some cartoonish mental illness that makes you run around babbling incoherently. Even if you classify their views on gender as a delusion, doesn't mean their ability to think rationally in other areas is affected.

> You cannot "trick" the brain into believing it's in a female body because it is not a physiological problem, it Is a chemical problem. Their brain chemistry is a mess of both male and female and thus it needs a chemical solution.
That's why the other part of the main treatment is HRT.

>Also, sarcasm aside, you're saying it like we can just swap chromosomes in and out, the mind will never notice that it should have a benis and freak out.
The mind literally doesn't care about chromosomes. It just cares about the physical reality of the body.

>Can you please tell me where you bought your life support from ? My grand grandma is gonna pass away soon and we don't want her brain to do too much work.
What?