Muslims* go to Mass

>>64141
There´s gonna be some sort of islam-christianity syncretism in the next 50 years, I guarantee it.

>>64148
Only if muslims don't kill them all first like they did with their genocide of zoroastrians.

>>64148
Unitology?

>>64148
>There´s gonna be some sort of islam-christianity syncretism in the next 50 years, I guarantee it

Not a chance in hell. I can see a Catholic-Orthodox reconciliation, maybe even some of the hierarchical Protestant Churches joining in, but definitely not an "islam-christianity" merger. OTOH, there are signs of many Muslims jumping ship into Christianity and others being jaded with organized religion altogether. Maybe Islam will evaporate before too long.

>>64174
>Maybe Islam will evaporate

>Looking to the future, Islam is set to equal Christianity in number by the year 2050 according to the Pew Research Center. Islam is set to grow faster than any other major world religion, reaching a total number of 2.76 billion (an increase of 73%). High fertility rates play a factor, with Islam having a rate of 3.1 compared to the world average of 2.5, and the minimum replacement level for a population at 2.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Demographics

>>64176
You do realize that is one possible outcome right? You're holding up a pew poll as if it's a 100% guarantee.

>>64178

try again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth

>>64183
>>64176
And people are going to argue that it isn't planned ?

This is riduculous on much more than one aspect

People forget that when euro-christians were all losing their shit in the dark ages, islamic nations were actually making innovations in calculus, early astronomy, capitalism, and global navigation when christfags thought if you sailed too far out you'd fall off the edge of the world.

>>64235
Have you ever travelled to any nonwhite part of the world? Like, ever? Particularly indonesia, northern africa, or the nicer parts of the middle east? There are a LOT of muslims in this world. It's the fastest growing religion. It's not going anywhere, it's not planned, not a conspiracy, just a different group of people with an upcoming population boom. Get over it

>>64237
>islamic nations were actually making innovations in calculus, early astronomy, capitalism, and global navigation when christfags thought if you sailed too far out you'd fall off the edge of the world.
Those were mostly Persian christians who were forced to convert or die. Once all their good works had been appropriated (and some aspects of that culture were burned and lost forever for being too unislamic) all advancement in that area of the world stopped.

The fucking Persians were civilized under christianity. Islam turned them into animals.

>>64141
>So all of them would be killed if sent back to the middle east.

"Kill the apostates!" shouts the religion of piece.

>>64141
>>More than 100 Muslims gathered at the towering Gothic cathedral in Rouen,
only 100, out of millions?

>>64238
This is it exactly.

>>64237
>People forget that when euro-christians were all losing their shit in the dark ages, islamic nations were actually making innovations in calculus, early astronomy, capitalism, and global navigation when christfags thought if you sailed too far out you'd fall off the edge of the world.
When is this misconception going to end? It was mostly monks who copied and preserved knowledge from the ancients in their monasteries.

>>64141
>Ahmadiyya Muslims, a minority sect that differs from mainstream Islam in that it doesn’t regard Mohammed as the final prophet.
so muslim mormons?

>>64238
>Those were mostly Persian christians who were forced to convert or die
Holy shit do you really believe this?

>>64183
Again, you're holding up data to predict a future event with tons of variables. Nobody knows what might happen between then and now. Increasing modernization and education might cause the Muslim pop to drop. It wasn't long ago that having 4-8 babies was the norm in Christian cities, in order to replace the 2-3 that inevitably died.

>>64141
>*But keep in mind

There are different denominations of Islam. You can't pick the most extreme one and say, "This is what TRUE Islam is!" No denomination has any objective value over the other. It's all equally as arbitrary and as Christianity and its numerous denominations.

And the concept of Muslims, Catholics, Christians and whatever other Abrahamic group coming together in solace isn't really that bizarre. They all fundamentally believe in the same God.

I'd probably be more impressed if I saw Abrahamic followers of different creeds forming a union for victims of that Florida night club shooting.

>>64264
>what is the church of the east?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Iran

>>64270
It was a response to his "appropriation" line.

>>64281
>It was a response to his "appropriation" line.
>quotes "Those were mostly Persian christians who were forced to convert or die"
>not "Once all their good works had been appropriated..."

Maybe you should learn to quote properly, before you make any sort of argument?

>>64284
Why don't you read the quote in the quote too while you're at it?

>>64176
Here's a link to the actual study
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Note that it says "if current trends continue", which implies that it's data is based on present rates, without looking at the factors that determine those rates. It's basically the equivalent of saying "it was 50 degrees at 8 AM and 55 degrees at 9 AM, so by 8 PM it will be 110 degrees"

>>64248
France is 7% Muslim, 88% Catholic, and 5% other.

So of the approximately 2,000 people present at the Rouen cathedral (assuming they're a representative sample of the French population), you'd see 140 Muslims, 1,760 Catholics, and about 100 of other faiths. So it seems that Muslims attended in numbers proportional to their representation in the population, which is obviously surprising considering you wouldn't expect Muslims to go to a cathedral in the first place.

>>64237
>People forget that when euro-christians were all losing their shit in the dark ages
>when christfags thought if you sailed too far out you'd fall off the edge of the world.

4chan is for posters above the age of 18. Please refrain from browsing here until you are of age.

Learn to speak the fucking language first, Abdul.

>>64250
>monks who copied and preserved knowledge from the ancients in their monasteries

Those books were not accessible except to a very few people that received a permit from the Church (nobles and important theology scholars).

>>64237
>islamic nations were actually making innovations in calculus

Bullshit, the middle east didn't do shit in calculus. The closest would be India that came up with power series for trig functions but repeated genocides due to Muslim incursion stunted and destroyed much of their work.

>when christfags thought if you sailed too far out you'd fall off the edge of the world.

That a myth made up by late 19th century atheists.

http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/russell/FlatEarth.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_flat_Earth

>>64488

Anyone willing to pay for a copy of a book, could get one. No permits needed.

>>64371
>88% Catholic
lol no, culturally maybe but 60% of France is atheist/agnostic.

>>64141
>>More than 100 Muslims gathered at the towering Gothic cathedral in Rouen
So, out of millions of muslims in France, only 100 showed up? No one sees something wrong here?

>>64547
Yeah, they let ragheads into the country to begin with

>>64246

There's also been lots of Muslims converting to christianity here in germany in face of recent attack, but they want t keep it a secret especially from their familiy, because they fear persecution

>Religion of peace

>>64547
Out of about 2000 people at that cathedral. So that's 5%, while Muslims make up about 7% of the population. So yes, in pure statistical terms they seem somewhat underrepresented, but considering that you wouldn't really expect Muslims to attend a Christian cathedral in the first place, it's actually a fairly high rate.

>>64269
>No denomination has any objective value over the other. It's all equally as arbitrary and as Christianity and its numerous denominations.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. There is definitely a huge difference between sects from early schisms (i.e. the Sunni and Shia divide coming from choosing a successor to Muhammad) and schisms/movements that happened over 1000 years later and contradict much of the established thought (like Ahmadiyya and the Bahá'í Faith).

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya
>The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is an Islamic religious movement founded in Punjab, British India, near the end of the 19th century. It originated with the life and teachings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908), who claimed to have appeared in fulfilment of the prophecies concerning the world's reformer during the end times, who was to bring about, by peaceful means, the final triumph of Islam and herald the eschaton as predicted in Islamic scriptures as well as the traditions of various world religions. He claimed to have been divinely appointed as the Mujaddid (renewer) of Islam, the promised Messiah and Mahdi awaited by Muslims.

Similarly there is a world of difference between the apostolic Christian Churches (Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and The Assyrian Church of the East) which have the same Christology and the 30,000+ protestant denominations which popped up in the last 300 years after Christianity has been established for over a thousand years with radically different theologies. Take for example the Jehovah Witnesses who deny the divinity of Christ, claim he was executed on a stake, and is the Archangel Michael. Or Mormons who believe Adam was God the Father (Elohim), that Elohim physically reappeared to knock up Mary, Elohim was once a man like us on another earth and was rewarded with Godhood for being a faithful Mormon, that all Mormons become Gods themselves of other worlds, Jesus had 3 wives, and so on.

>>64371
from my understanding, ahmadis and baha'is are the most peaceful islamic sect because they did not originate from middle east and believe that all religion are just different paths to allah.

these people are the reason we always say that its not ALL muslim but a majority of them who believe in terrorist ideology.

Sam Harris said that in all religion you will see the radicals in the middle circle, followed by fundamentals, then the moderates and lastly the non practising, although the percentages may vary. in islam, the fundamentals are the biggest followed by radicals, and lastly moderates and non practising.

>>64664
The majority of Muslims don't believe in a "terrorist ideology". The likes of ISIS and al-quaeda are a fairly small minority. Among the others, there are plenty who have a backwards culture, but that's not the same as being terrorist.

>>64668
>Among the others, there are plenty who have a backwards culture, but that's not the same as being terrorist.

that is exactly the problem. these demographic of Muslims are what we would describe as fundamentals. they believe in quran as the holy scripture and it is to be followed in word. this demographic is the easiest to be radicalized. just look at the opinion polls amongst the muslims.

God bless these people for coming together and may the community find healing.

>>64176

Those numbers over count by including Muslims that have left the faith since few ever broadcast it.

>>64368
>dat false equivalency
It's closer to saying "well every year the season of winter happens, so I'm gonna guess that in twenty years the season of winter will have happened twenty times"

>>64903
>implying population growth does varies wildly
>implying there will be a winter outside of Antarctica in the future.

>>64237
>islamic nations were actually making innovations in calculus
Calculus was invented by Isaac Newton

>>64903
No, because there's a difference between looking at a repeating cycle of nature and assuming a trend will continue indefinitely at its present rate. Think of it this way: if the trend of Muslim population truly was linear, there would be a point in our history in which there were NEGATIVE Muslims. And that's a concept that even you should realize is nonsensical.

>>64910
Algebra => Al Gharismi
Fluxions => Newton (not calculus but close)
Calculus => Liebnitz

>>64141
>Hundreds gather in gesture of solidarity
>Thousands gather to molest girls on New Years in Germany

Bitch, please

Honestly as a Muslim, I wouldn't participate in a catholic mass or any other religion's ritual that is specific to them. Sure I'd visit a church for an event and be respectful, but I'd think a Christian was the biggest cuck in the world if he prayed salat with us and he's not Muslim.

>>64996
What version of Islam?

>>64997
Sunni bruv

>>64980
>Algebra => Al Gharismi

Actually the Greeks had a form of algebra before him.

>>64998
aka terrorist central

>>64996

t. Sunni extremist who defines his life around a murderous religion

>>64250
>I don't needed no cammunist college! public education is just fine!

>>64996
>I'd visit a church for an event and be respectful
I assume you mean "an event, but not an actual mass".
Catholic mass are not like praying in a mosque, you can just sit with every one else and just not go to the front when they give bread, just like the ones who don't take communion (because they didn't receive the right sacraments, have sinned since they last confessed, or more likely they were forced to be here by family but are not religious since they were told about Santa.)

>>64996
And he would probably think you're the biggest cuck in the world for being part of one of the dumbest religions in the world.

If they're just trying to learn or experience it then literally who cares. Oh right, mudslimes.

>>65086
>since they were told about Santa

Back in the early 20th century, certain people argued that cartoons will make it hard for kids to tell reality from fiction. History has now proven them right.

>>64668
>The majority of Nazi didn't believe in a "eugenic ideology". The likes of SS and Hitler's inner circle are a fairly small minority. Among the others, there are plenty who have a backwards culture, but that's not the same as being racial eugenicists.

>>64701
>they believe in quran as the holy scripture and it is to be followed in word

The bigger problem is that the Quran is contradictory and bipolar where the reader must abrogate verses with other verses but it isn't written in any clear order leading to mass confusion of what to follow.

>>65102
Confirmed for having never read the Quran, or even a summary.

>>64547
There's a lot of good shit on TV

>>65101
By "Nazi" do you mean those who were actually members of the NSDAP, or everyone who lived in the Third Reich? Most of them were not hardcore fascist supporters, and they only had a "backwards culture" insofar as being nationalist and believing they should support their country even what it did was wrong.

>>65119
>Doesn't know the difference between the Meccan Quran and Medinan Quran
>Doesn't know the Quran is ordered from longest chapter to shortest

>>64141

Watch this

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPoY4IFW1lI

>>65119
A summery wouldn't do the Quran justice. To fully appreciate it you need to read through all the threats and descriptions of Allah's anger and wrath. And how Muhammad knows those who do not believe are diseased in their hearts, Allah increases their disease and mocks them because they corrupt the earth.

>>65358
And then Muhammad explain how not to eat and wipe your ass with the same hand.

>>64141
>More than 100 Muslims
Not even a quarter of how much Muslims went in Syria to fight for ISIS.

>>64238
Persians were mostly zoroastrians wtf are you talking about.