Gard family ends legal fight for Charlie

Finally

>>160535
God is dead

God does exist

The British government effectively euthanized this boy against the wishes of his parents. This is what we have to look forward to in America if we continue this path towards single payer healthcare.

>>160833
If you actually looked into this you would know by now that this treatment (if it worked) would only help his mitochondrial disorder.
He would still have severe brain damage.
This means he still has no quality of life as he wouldn't have ever been able to breathe unaided.
And he would still have only a year or so to love.

>>160863
Sorry, *live.
There are a lot of problems in the UK caused by left leaning sides. This not one of them. The hospital saw his situation and realised he had no chance.

>>160863
He still interacted with his parents and even had a picnic with them

>>160863
If you had any grasp of What this boys situation and the complete disregard for a parents right to choose the care given to their own baby represents, then you would shut your edgy little mouth kid. The reason Charlie Gards case is so important is because it shows the world what happens when you give up your right to choose how to be treated and instead leave it up to a non-feeling non-caring bierocracy.

>>160879
Id consider leaving your child in a state of perpetual anguish for maybes is non-feeling and non-caring

>>160833
This is why I want individual mandates rather than universal coverage awarded to everyone

>>160802
After we killed GOD, bureaucrats took the reigns.

>>160879
I would say that parents forcing their own child to suffer is sick. It's no different from domestic violence.

>>160888
>>161030
You're retardation is practically palatable. Let me spell it out for you communist fags. YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL A PERSON WHAT CARE THEY OR THEIR CHILDREN WILL RECEIVE. Get your dirty crooked fingers off my mother fucking liberty you cunts.

I don't understand how they're just going to cut off the life support instead of actually killing him, won't that be extremely painful?

>>161051
>but it's okay to mutilate boys penis'
kys cunt

>>160833
I'm astounded they did this as it's the shittiest PR move possible. This if nothing else will be THE propaganda point against socialized medicine for years to come.

>>161063
For them.

>>161063
"Euthanasia is categorized in different ways, which include voluntary, non-voluntary, or involuntary. Voluntary euthanasia is legal in some countries. Non-voluntary euthanasia (patient's consent unavailable) is illegal in all countries. Involuntary euthanasia (without asking consent or against the patient's will) is also illegal in all countries and is usually considered murder."
Took me less to find the reason than you did to solve the captcha. Start fucking googling shit first.

>>161063
Because suicide and murder is wrong you sociopath.

>>161099
Where the fuck did I say anything like that? Quote me asshole. Do it right now I'll wait.

>>161123
There gonna kill him anyway

>>160833
The British government tied the parents' hands because they were not doing what was best for their child. This is like saying removing a child from an abusive parent is socialism. What you and the rest of the idiots sending money to them (though I doubt you're even doing that, you're too busy pushing agendas on 4chan) want is for some people to experiment on an infant and make it suffer more.

Really fucking think about what you're saying and what's actually going on here. I guarantee I hate bureaucracy and America's heavy lean towards single payer HC more than you do, you little fucking cocksucker, and listening to you raving assholes fail to put aside your hatred for a baby's sake is fucking disgusting. You're the reason this goddamn world is going to shit.

>>161345
The difference being that most people can agree when social services are or are not correct in removing a child from his or her home. In this case there was a low but non-zero chance the therapy might do something for the kid and probably would have provided good medical data regardless. But the government decided it knew best and that's apparently end of story as far as they're concerned, hence the controversy.

If you're feeling super cynical, this looks like it could be the government flexing its muscles so no one gets any ideas about privileged care.

>>161359
The treatment would not work the way people want it to. I don't know how many more times to say this. We can get into the specifics of how Charlie has lost mtDNA or how radically different this mitochrondrial disease is from the 'usual', but the fact remains he will have severe brain damage, if he's lucky. And even if it works he will still be in tremendous pain or live a life not worth living. When presented with these options, the government has a duty to take the choice that does not prolong suffering.

I will agree that the government was far too slow to react to this at the beginning and it is probably largely their fault why this has all happened. And I agree to any outsider it would certainly look like unnecessary government intervention and the UK government has done a terrible job with PR. But at this point in time, this is the correct choice for the child.

Lol this is what single payer healthcare does, none of you liberals would admit it though

>>161429

>private insurance
>nobody wants to cover you because preexisting conditions
>even if you were covered, this procedure might not be covered by your plan
>the few who do charge you beyond what you can afford
>you die

>public insurance
>government decides you're not worth the effort
>you die

Same shit, different asshole.

>>161494
>>public insurance
>>government decides you're not worth the effort
>>you die
but that's not what happens in any of the western countries with free health care, like Australia, England, Canada.

Will smith is the parents
Robots are Brit government
https://youtu.be/v__qBmkuqF0

>>161063
Asphyxiation is actually the easiest way to go. People can do it in their sleep. Drowning is more painful.

>>161318
They aren't doing anything actually, -he- is expiring.

>>160734
He'll be back

I wasn't being "edgy", it must have been a terrible ordeal and I might not ever be able to truly understand what those parents went through. It was rude of me to start my statement in such a snarky way. I apologise.
But terminal illness is what it is. You can throw all the money in the world at it, but his brain damage can't be reversed. Hospitals, even in the US, normally turn off the life support for a child that will never be able to live off of the life support, will suffer their entire lives and won't have a quality of life.
It was a bad situation for everyone, especially for Charlie and his parents but the judges and hospital were not being cruel. They were trying to prevent unnecessary suffering for Charlie.
The US researchers were looking to test their treatment for use on people who could be saved. Which sounds nice initially but would need Charlie, who should have already been allowed to pass on, to be flown to the US for treatment that wouldn't solve his terminal illness.

You are right, people should be allowed to decide on their own or their children's healthcare. But only to the extent that they don't cause unnecessary harm to their children.

>>161566
If you're replying to >>160879, don't even bother, dude. That's someone who's thrown away reason in favor of screaming about his agenda. He likely doesn't even give a shit about Charlie.