Current crisis in Venezuela

No, the commies created the crisis. It was a long time coming. That's why a lot of Venezuelans left the country while Chavez was still alive.

>>158989
sorry for not posting the right picture. I just read the news rules... I just wanted to show that it said Venezuela on the papers on the clipboard of this scene... In another of the earlier episodes they talk about war games... One of the strategies was to create an environment similar that is happening in Venezuela today.

>>158992
Then the American knew about it, or where also thinking about it. Do you think it is a coincidence that in this episode filmed in 2015 they mentioned that US was planning something in Venezuela?

The US definitely exacerbated the situation, but this is what always happens under communism.

>>158989
>netflix
you think there's gonna be some dank info there

no

>>158999
Anyone who thinks Venezuela is communist has no clue clue what communism actually is

>>159001
every time communism fails you say "that wasn't real communism"

>>159001

>It's not real communism

>>159004
>>159009
Last I checked, the gov't in Venezuela still defends private property and the workers don't control the means of production, those are 2 of the defining factors of communism

>>159026
>expecting anything but /pol/tier conservation on 4chan these days

baka desu senpai

>>159026
>till defends private property

Completely false.

The fact that you even make a claim like that shows you have next to no information on how bad it actually is there now.

>the workers don't control the means of production

This never actually happens in communism. It's just a lie to fool the masses into cheering in their new owners with a different title

It's still a complete top down leadership where the pinnacle makes all the decisions.

If you think Pedro and Tyrone will ever have any say in the means of production, then you're just naive.

Why does the US care about this? Why does that country always butt in to others business

>>159033

Because this is what liberals are trying to turn the US into

This is what they think is a utopia free of hate and evil corporations

>>159038
venezuela's problem isn't socialism any more than russia or nazi germany or china's problem is.
it's autocracy.

in a representative government people are free to vote for more or less government as they please.
if venezuelans had a choice and decided single payer healthcare is for them, you can't say they made the wrong choice; that is theirs alone.

>>159033
We buy (bought?) some shit from them. Mostly oil.

>>159026
>Venezuela still defends private property
Fuck you and your ignorant ass
The government is full of power hungry vultures who take control of anybody's properties if given the fucking chance

God you all scream fake news then eat whatever shit you find on the internet about a heavily censored country you don't even know

Venezuelan Here, do your questions.

>>159038
>Because this is what liberals are trying to turn the US into

A) If you think this is true, you are an idiot. No one, not even Bernie Sanders is promoting turning America into a socialist nation.

B) Venezuela failed because their leadership built their entire economy around one product (Oil) and when it failed, so did Venezuela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uha4yezakw

>>159104
Depends on what your definition of socialism. If they had implemented the european model things probably wouldn't be so dire.

>>159038
>fucking corporatist shill neo-libs
>fucking commie traitor libs
Which one is it?

>>159593
>No one, not even Bernie Sanders is promoting turning America into a socialist nation.

This is just completely false.

> Venezuela failed because their leadership built their entire economy around one product (Oil) and when it failed, so did Venezuela.

So I suppose the government seizing all those businesses and industries and then running them into the ground had nothing to do with it.

>>159585
Where does Maduro get his support? How can you get through to them to prove he is a corrupt kleptocrat and that the socialist persecution of freedoms won't solve anything?

>>159684
You didn't watch the video, did you? Ok, let me explain it in retard for you.

When they discovered the world's largest oil fields under their land they started making profit faster than the market could adjust.

Because the oil was so abundant and expensive it drove the value of their currency up, then suddenly no one from outside of the country wanted to buy anything but oil.

Exporting from Venezuela ground to a halt. Their agriculture and production industries died in a matter of a few years because businesses could get those products cheaper from nations who weren't rolling in money.

Chavez took office in the 1990s on a platform advocating a path between capitalism and socialism. He restructured the government-owned oil company so that the profits would go into the Venezuelan state, not the pockets of Wall Street corporations. With the proceeds of Venezuela’s oil exports, Chavez funded a huge apparatus of social programs.

Big oil revenues enabled Chavez and the United Socialist Party to bring millions of Venezuelans out of poverty. Between 1995 and 2009, poverty and unemployment in Venezuela were both cut in half.

Then it collapsed as more oil based economies pumped out more oil more efficiently trying to soak up as much money as they could before the bubble popped.
This was largely due to Saudi Arabia and America agreeing to pump out as much oils as possible to destroy the economies of their enemies.

When it popped, Venezuela sold oil for less and less every day until the oil glut was so bad that it was cheaper to buy oil from other nations than to pump it out of their own land. With all that once valuable money practically worthless, the people began to struggle.

Then their dictator died and a nation wide drought struck. They have so little water they can't even run the hydro-electric dams that give them lights. Without electricity, they can't rebuild their infrastructure or even maintain basic living conditions.

>>159742
Wow thats a lot of spin.
So much ground to cover.
First google price ceilings.
Chaves made it illegal to sell things like sugar above a certain price on the wholesale market inside the country. That price was below international market value. This is why production stopped.

>>158989
No it was the retarded government that didn't invest well for the future.
They have a major debt also to Russia.

>>159742
Oil isn't the issue for most part.It's food, Venezuela imports food when it used to produce a lot.The government confiscated all the farms and land from their rightful owners.

>>159026
>Last I checked, the gov't in Venezuela still defends private property

> and the workers don't control the means of production
No, the government does, and they ran every factory, farm, production line, etc. that they have taken over to the ground.

This is fucking hilarious.

>>159689
that sound like if the opposition had a better answer to actual problems of Venezuela which is actually wrong...

>>159742
>suddenly no one from outside of the country wanted to buy anything but oil.
Oh really

Suddenly!

You sure? The government is not responsible? They couldn't be!

wtf, we won the cold war, why are people still being commies

>>162776
We're animals

>>162776
jews

>>162776
>failling to the commie meme

>>158989
Latin America 101: Blame everything on the US.

>>159742
SA and US didn't agree to overproduce. SA overproduced to kill US shale and give Iran a kick in the nuts. Russia and Venezuela were collateral damage.

>>159494
>Eminent domain
Just shut up and go back to studying your tenth grade history books

>>162776
Lol, I know. All the people of Denmark are starving to death and people still think socialism is a good idea.

>>159001

>It's not real communism

>>159026
>still defends private property

Nice fake news

The government seized all of the major agricultural businesses a long time ago

There is no such thing as "workers control the means of production". That is a communist lie.

>>162776
That's funny you think we "won" the cold war. There is no winning or losing in a cold war just stalemate.

>>164493
there's nothing wrong with socialism. in fact it is good for you, whoever said it was bad is spreading capitalist lies. embrace the collectivism and together we will rise comrade

>>164561
Idk do u like mass transit, temporary unemployment benifits , public schools , free roads, or anything else that is paid for by a community??
Then you like socialisim its impossible for a modern state to exist with out socialisim.

> also not dressing your gf up as a ussr soilder and dumping your free market excess on her.

How many Americans will care about this savage shit?

>>159033
Because the world isn't an isolated island.

Venezuela sells its oil and goods to the likes of Cuba. If it the country goes kaput it can have a domino effect on other South American countries. Major problems could create a refugee flood resulting in more people running to the US. They have ties with the likes of Russia, Iran, etc.

These countries are ran in half assed ways but even the likes of North Korea have tentacles around the globe.

You could say that in a way. Since the USA is purely the Military Arm of the global Elites, it's their job to slap them into NWO submission.

Venezuelans are buying Bolivarcoin
Randy Brito says https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bolivarcoin/

>>164605

If only we had some kind of physical barrier on the border

Really makes you think

>>159029

I was here in 2003. I still remain here today!

Out with the trolls!