Ohio Mom Gets Death Threats After Making Point Against Circumcision

>>155870
"The reaction that parents have when they see this beautiful perfect baby being ... mutilated, that initial shock, that reaction of anger, I want them to hold on to that," the 35-year-old said.

Amid the death threats and hate mail, Vance said she also got countless positive messages from parents. Some said they felt they didn't have a choice in whether their sons were circumcised. Another was told it was a "cleanliness thing."

"A lot of this responsibility lies on our medical community. They encourage parents," Vance said. "It shouldn't be an option. It shouldn't be a question."

While some parents were supportive of Vance's argument, others accused Vance of parent shaming.

"Honestly, my post was meant to shock parents into seeing their children as human beings and to respect them as such," she responded. "The truth is, I never said anything about anyone's parenting. I never said anyone was a bad parent or accused them of abusing their child. I never made threats to call the police on them ... I never wished infertility, hysterectomies or death upon them. I simply held up a mirror for them to see themselves, and somehow that translated into 'parent shaming.'"

>>155873
Coming from a family of all women, she said she didn't know a lot about circumcision until she became pregnant for the first time in the late '90s. Vance had twin girls, but the research she did stuck in her mind.

"It felt so outdated, so primitive," she said. "We as a civilized society should have grown past this and (I) was shocked that cutting my infant's genitals was even an option."

In 2012, the American Academy of Pediatrics found that the health benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks. However, the academy said the benefits weren't great enough to recommend that all newborn boys be circumcised.

"There is no compelling reason to deny boys their legitimate right to make their own informed decision when they are old enough to do so," the report said.

Vance sees this as a call to action and will tell anyone she meets how she feels if it comes up in conversation. She protested last fall in Cleveland with the Bloodstained Men & Their Friends, an organization that advocates against circumcision.

"No one has the right to alter, modify, or mutilate another human being's body for aesthetic purposes, not even parents," she said.

>>155870
>those excuses are the same ones used to justify circumcision

>if she doesn't like it she can just take it out, no big deal

She needs to work on her trolling tbh.
10/10 for effort though.

>>155875
>Take it out and still have a hole in their cheak
Even if that weren't the case, it only emphasises her point.
A less serious body modification is getting substantially more heat.

>>155875
nah her trolling is 12/10. You just pointed out a difference between analogies, not the excuses people use to justify them. And the funny thing is, even though the piercing is completely reversible people STILL wanted her head for it. Surprised she didn't bring it us as yet another point to slap them in the face with.

>>155876
>>155877
Not really an issue I worry about.

All this looks like to me is another example of the USA being its usual cancerous self.

You sound pretty mad. Did you boys get cut?

It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.

>even though the piercing is completely reversible
ffs smh

>>155878
>It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.
yeah man that's why the HIV rate in america is lower than in some european countries that don't advocate circumcision. oh wait, no it isn't.

and if you remove a piercing, the hole closes up completely. that's what studs are for, to keep the hole patent. are you retarded or merely pretending?

>>155878
Nope not cut myself.
I just think it's a barbaric thing to do, especially in first world countries.
It's the kinda shit you'd expect pakis in a desert to do.

>It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.
Protection against the disease of homosexuals and whores.
Mutilating a penis is hardly a substitute for a proper upbringing.

>>155878
>It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.
That's true in Africa and countries where HIV infection rate is high and they can't into using proper protections. In civilised countries, this kind of idea makes people not put a condom when they fuck around because they think they're protected by some kind of magic, and it ends up being counter-productive.

>Three types of people mutilate their offspring : the Jews, the Muslims, and the Americans.
Fun fact : during WWII, when SS were rounding up Jews to send to the camps, some would claim not to be Jewish. SS would ask them to show their dicks.

>>155876
piercing holes will begin to close within a few days, although of course there will be a small scar.

If I suggested we trim just a little excess skin from girls' vaginas when they are babies, for purely aesthetic reasons (no more unsightly beef curtains) people would lose their shit yet for some reason it's ok to chop boys dicks up?

>>156019
And God said let them be cut Abraham

>>155881
have you ever been pierced? There is always a small pock where the hole was, you'll always have either a pock or a bump.
Fucking child.

>>156019
I don't think labia minora appear before puberty.

You might suggest to burn their clit with acid, that's what Dr. Kellogg suggested to prevent masturbation.
He's the one responsible for male circumcision in the US, and also said that eating shitty bland cereals for breakfast would help having a shitty boring life that would prevent trying to masturbate.

You could suggest sewing labia to prevent pre-marital sex. That's what other pro-circumcision tribes do.

>>155873
>others accused her of parent shaming
This coming from the group that raged over a post about giving a kid a piercing. Also interesting how the headline does not mention circumcision despite that being the majority of the article.

>>156050
of course it's there. it just doesn't keratinize before puberty.

>>156051

Wouldn't wanna be anti-semitic, would we?

>>155870
I'm curious as to who she went to that would pierce her baby's cheek for her, that doesn't seem like the sort of thing most people would agree to do.

>>156116
Did you even fucking read it? It was Photoshopped to make a fucking point.

>>155878
>It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.

>Implying I fuck dirty prostitutes, man ass, and people from African countries

more for you I guess, but I've come to be very thankful my parents didn't buy into the bullshit and mutilate me without my consent. I have no problem with practicing regular hygiene either.

>>155878
>It will help protect you against contracting HIV by the way.

Study conducted by taking a group of uncircumcised HIV negative men deemed 'at risk' of contracting the infection (ie, they fucked around a lot and lived in a HIV high region of Africa). They circumcised half and 6 months later the uncircumcised had a higher rate of HIV.

Time spent recovering from the op not taken into account.

>>155887
>"first world"

you meant zion-mason serf states vs more directly plundered colonies?

>>156175
well fuck, that's what I get for not reading the whole thing.

>>156859
I think tumblr might be a better fit for you

>>156863
>tfw the jews never took my foreskin

Feels good. Real good.

>>156043
>BOO HOO there's a small pock left WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
yeah you're definitely not the fucking child here. shiteating retard.

>got bullied for being circumcised in jr high, felt like a freak
>people in high school health class talked about how it will 'ruin your sex life'
>"I can last longer". "more pornstars are cut"

>get to my 20's, realize how fucking lucky I am to have my foreskin
>circumcision removes a huge amount of the sensitivity in your penis
>circumcision has no actual medical benefit if you practice proper hygiene
>so many girls love it
>dudes who gave me shit explain they wish they weren't cut
>literally one of the best feelings ever, uncutbros

top fucking kek. For all of you who got shit for being uncut, we got the last laugh.
For those of you who talked shit, enjoy your mutilated penises.

ahahahahahahahahahaha I will never stop enjoying this feel.

>>157264
>>got bullied for being circumcised in jr high
>get to my 20's, realize how fucking lucky I am to have my foreskin
wait, are you cut or are you not cut?

>>157371
He's actually retarded. Just don't look at him and keep walking.

>>155878
This is a nonsense argument. If you're fucking HIV+ people and never showering then basic survival is probably a bigger problem than the HIV.

>>157264
Why were all the boys at your highschool comparing and looking at each others dicks? You fags or somthin?

>>155870
I mean, I want her to die and her baby go to a good family

>>155878
Condoms also work great for protecting against HIV plus there is a promising vaccine in the works.

>>155878
not shooting heroin and not getting fucked in the ass will protect you from HIV

>>155870
the purpose of circumcision is hygene, im not going to tell you that you have to be circumcised, however im not going to let anyone get away with comparing a procedure that makes cleaning my dick easier to narcissistic cosmetic bullshit, that and the foreskin is not the most sensitive part of penis the head is. the foreskin is genetic leftover from before we had clothing, cutting off the foreskin has no impact on the senses of the dick, female circumcision on the other hand (which is part of Islamic culture) cuts off the womens clit making it so they cant feel pleasure from sex, but lets not pay any attention to the barbaric rape culture mutilating womens genitals, no lets attack a perfectly safe procedure that makes it easier to clean and far less likely to get an infection (especially for infants)

>>155870
Circumcision is barbaric and shouldn't be allowed.

>>158951
Showers exist retard, modern hygiene exists. Oh and the foreskin is incredibly useful during foreplay. You are a liar and a moron who can't even grasp proper punctuation, neck your sorry self and keep your failure genes from spreading to new generations.

>>158093
>Vance, a strong advocate against piercing or circumcising children, posted the edited picture to Facebook
key word being "edited"

>>158971
only a retard cant acknowledge that there are some conditions that require circumcision, such as phimosis and balanoposthitis, I don't care whether you get circumcised or not, lazy fucking parents should get there kids circumcised because there laziness will cause an infection, or here's a radical idea, how about we stop encouraging lazy irresponsible people from breeding like a fucking plague, but no you retards will continue to encourage the worst of humanity to breed until the movie idiocracy is a documentary

>>155870
>Vance, a strong advocate against piercing
>edited picture

So the baby actually didn't get pierced? That's a really subtle way of saying it was staged...the rest of the article and quotes don't make a big a deal as I'd expect about the whole thing being a farce.

>>159090
Nvm, didn't realize the full article wasn't posted by OP and didn't feel like clicking the non-archived link.

>>159067
>lazy fucking parents should get there kids circumcised
no.
lazy fucking parents should get circumcised themselves

>>159067
So if you want to punish lazy parents, why are you in favor of encouraging laziness through circumcision? Wouldn't having their child contract dick rot be a fitting punishment?

>>159103
that doesn't stop them from reproducing like a fucking plague, and that doesn't change the fact that lazy parents will cause uncircumcised children to get infections, there is only one real answer, stop funding lazy irresponsible degenerates with tax dollars,

>>159105
the fuck did the kid do, a child is helpless to their parents abuse, im not for children suffering like that, go get some gonasiphaherpalaids or other dickrot and tell me how you can possibly wish that on another let alone a chile

>>159107
If you want parents to stop being retarded you have to make their poor decisions have a lasting impact on their kids. Even then it won't matter, but at least their kids won't pass on the shitty lessons of their parents. Also periods are your friend, you should use them a bit more.

>>158951
Humanity came up with soap and warm water a few centuries ago.
Also, not only is the foreskin the most sensitive part, you'd know if you had one, but it protects the head from rubbing against clothe fabric and getting desensitised.
Circumcision DOES impact sensitivity, what kind of retard think butchering a penis leaves it intact?
Also circumcision is an infection risk, like any large and deep cut in the skin.

God wills circumcision. So we have to do it

>>158951
>t. cutfag

start looking into foreskin regeneration methods before you become too depressed and an hero

>>158951
holy fuck you are retarded

>>155870

Don't upset the "poor innocent" kike and mudslime filth by banning their practices of mutilating baby genitals. You wouldn't want to be intolerant, would you, OP?

>>159160
Only Jew's and Muslim's god, not Christian's god.

haha american problems haha

>>158951
faps feel so good when uncut.

>>160455
If Christians actually read their bible they would know their God wills circumcision too.

>>160436
Jews and Muslims together make up like 5% of US. Way more than that believe that only females deserve bodily autonomy

>>162903

http://biblehub.com/nlt/galatians/5.htm

>mutilate your baby to make point about mutilating your baby

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>woman

>>>>>

>>156980
A removed piercing on a dimple is still going to look like an ordinary dimple. It's about as innocuous as you can get.

>>163225
It's OK, anon. One day you'll learn to read past the headline.

Why is this thread still being bumped? It is from almost a month ago now. If the mods can't even enforce their own rules then what is the point?

>>163243
What rule? The OP wasn't old news, the thread has no reason to be deleted. You misread the rule I think.
Go read the news and OP a fresh interesting thread to 404 old threads if you want.

>>163592
>Threads older than 48h will cease to bump when replied to.
This is the line from the sticky I am referring to. I get that at the time of posting the article was fresh, but after 48h it seems like it should stop bumping to prevent sliding new threads.

>>163611
I realised they changed this rule.
There are bump limits, not sure why they didn't implement it. Time to ask an admin I guess.

>>155870
But the difference is piercings are exclusively aesthetic and circumcision actually has medical benefits. People dismissing it with arguments about being unhygienic doesn't change the objective fact that there are benefits.