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GOP Rep. Trusts God With Climate Change: ‘He Can Take Care Of It’

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A Republican congressman said last week that, were the impacts of climate change to become a “real problem,” God would intervene.

>“I believe there’s climate change,” Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI) told constituents at a town hall Friday, as seen in a video of the event posted online. “I believe there’s been climate change since the beginning of time. I think there are cycles.”

>“Do I think that man has some impact? Yeah, of course,” he continued. “Can man change the entire universe? No. Why do I believe that? As a Christian, I believe that there is a creator, God, who’s much bigger than us. And I’m confident that, if there’s a real problem, he can take care of it.”

https://youtu.be/hMxTUhLp8qc

>President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter Wednesday that he would announce whether the United States would stay in the Paris climate accord, a landmark agreement reached between nearly every nation on Earth in 2016 to collectively curb emissions.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tim-walberg-climate-change-god
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May God destroy America for violating his creation.
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>>145803
>parents leave you to house watch
>proceed to smear shit on the wall, throw a hammer through the TV, throw the computer into the bathtub
>It's okay because parents will fix it anyways.

Whether you agree with climate change or not, this is deeply flawed reasoning. God left us to care for his planet, not shit all over it. We're just living in His house. Now you can make a debate about whether or not ACW is happening, but you can't say that even if it is, God will be okay with it, because you just shit all over his property.
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At least he admits it's real and that humans are responsible. That alone makes him more reasonable than half of Republican congresspeople.
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>>145803
Serious question: Are Republicans ever going to stop being retards? I keep thinking we're right around the corner from them waking up and realizing "hey maybe science is real!" but so far, just more Bible thumping
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>>145816
>Serious question

Proceeds to create strawman Bible thumper inbred caveman as the average Republican / conservative

Lol you guys wonder why the left is losing
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>>145816
It is necessary to be very clear. Conservatism is a war against intellectualism. The Conservatism spirit is will. It is not intellect. I hope I will not be misunderstood. Conservative intellectuals should not be intellectuals. Conservatism combats, and must combat, without respite or pity, not intelligence, but intellectualism--which is, as I have indicated, a sickness of the intellect--which is not the consequence of its abuse, because the intellect cannot be used too much. Rather it derives from the false belief that one can segregate oneself from life, to idle with systems of empty ideas, blind to the tragedy of human beings who work, love, suffer, and die. For those who understand, there is the place for intelligence--where there is drama, the struggle of man against mystery, the effort to control nature, and intensify life. One can understand that intelligence too is will.

Conservatism understands that; it disdains culture that is only ornament and adornment. Conservatives seeks a culture in which the spirit is armed and reinforced in order to prevail in ever-new battles. That is, and must be, our barbarism--a barbarity of the intellectuals. It is a barbarism against science and, above all, against philosophy--but, let it be clearly understood, against liberal decadents, of the spineless, of those who forever remain at the window and content themselves with criticism as if life's struggle was not the affair!
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>>145844
k
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Does not the bible mention god helping the one's helping them selves. Or is that just a wierd version i have heard.
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>>145848
Well, American protestants are major believers of the Prosperity Gospel. Wealth and success are rewards from God. It follows then that if you are rich, you must have God's favor and be a morally righteous individual. The richer you are, the more Jesus loves you. Obviously, impeding or punishing these rich people is sinful. It's basically like divine right adopted for the modern world. It's also why so many rich people in America seem to be so intensely religious.
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>>145852
I guess the money lenders in the Temple were closest to God.
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>>145803
Wait

Doesn't your amendment specifically say to not let religion influence politics and for peoole who want that to fuck off a bridge? or was I lied to by the internet?
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>>145903
Seperation of church laws are mostly formality since most of our country are mouth-breathers who would vote in a child molester before they did a non-christian.
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>>145903
>I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Recite this mantra enough times and you will believe anything you do for you nation is ordained by God.
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>>145824
>Bible thumper as the average Republican
>strawman
have you looked at the GOP platform in the last few decades? Gay marriage, abortion, global warming, creationism, etc. They've got a lot of religious bullshit on there, this GOP Rep in the OP isn't an exception. Trump doesn't believe in global warming and Pence is a creationist
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>>145927
>Liberals are buttfucking gay cucks who lick their marxist professors nuts and don't know how to perform an honest days work, and anally pleasure themselves to images of Don Lemon and Stephen Colbert while reading the God Delusion.

See? It's easy to make your opposition look stupid in your head bubble
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http://kairosschool.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Teaching-as-a-Subversive-Activity.pdf
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>>145816
They don't actually believe that shit, they just say it to jive with their voterbase.
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>>145875
Those were Jews, who get their riches from sacrificing gentile children to Satan down below. Totally different. Rich Christians, on the other hand, are blessed by God.
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In Cameroon, the largest Christian sect teaches that "God will always provide the game." When you ask people if they've seen this animal or that animal, they invariably will say "Not since I was younger." When you ask what should be done about it they answer that "God will take care of it."

Republicans confirmed for African-tier intelligence.
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>>145844
Took me a minute but nice quote lol
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>>145927
Unfortunately, the way the US political system is set up right now, the Republicans have to appeal to retarded hicks and Christcucks if they want to have any hope of beating the Democrats, and the Democrats have to appeal to retarded "muh feels" liberals and gibs-seekers if they want to have any hope of beating the Republicans.
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>>145844
LOL. Took me a sec, but then it became pretty obvious what the word you changed into "conservatism" must have been. Indeed, and it's a sad commentary on the current state of affairs. In reality, the so-called "right" is made up of two very different groups, and the only thing they have in common is that they are both not "left". These two groups are 1) small government free market classical liberal types, and 2) right-wing populists / fascists. These two are radically different from one another. But both seek to grab the label of "right" for themselves.
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>>145803
This sounds like an onion article.
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>>145905
>would
and have, repeatedly
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A very religious man was once caught in rising floodwaters. He climbed onto the roof of his house and trusted God to rescue him. A neighbour came by in a canoe and said, “The waters will soon be above your house. Hop in and we’ll paddle to safety.”
“No thanks” replied the religious man. “I’ve prayed to God and I’m sure he will save me”
A short time later the police came by in a boat. “The waters will soon be above your house. Hop in and we’ll take you to safety.”
“No thanks” replied the religious man. “I’ve prayed to God and I’m sure he will save me”
A little time later a rescue services helicopter hovered overhead, let down a rope ladder and said. “The waters will soon be above your house. Climb the ladder and we’ll fly you to safety.”
“No thanks” replied the religious man. “I’ve prayed to God and I’m sure he will save me”
All this time the floodwaters continued to rise, until soon they reached above the roof and the religious man drowned. When he arrived at heaven he demanded an audience with God. Ushered into God’s throne room he said, “Lord, why am I here in heaven? I prayed for you to save me, I trusted you to save me from that flood.”
“Yes you did my child” replied the Lord. “And I sent you a canoe, a boat and a helicopter. But you never got in.”
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>>145932
>head bubble
Perhaps you should leave your bubble then. The Republican party is a party for Biblethumpers. These are the mainstream views of the party. Can you show me some elected Democrats who "annally pleasure themselves to images of Don Lemon and Stephen Colbert while reading the God Delusion"? Because I can name plenty of elected Republicans who don't believe in AGW or evolution, or who oppose gay marriage, or who put God before country. These include our current President and VP.
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>>145803
This fucking moron thinks that us depleting our own ozone is the same as "man changing the entire universe".

Proffessor Farnsworth please take me with you; I gotta get outta here.
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>>146058
I always loved this story.
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>>145852
Didn't Jesus literally say something about rich people having a harder time getting into heaven?
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>>146058
A man who was down on his luck was wondering what he was going to do to pay the bills, buy groceries and such. Being a believer, he brought his situation to God. “God,” he prayed, “help me win the lottery so I can make ends meet.” The day of the lottery came and went and he did not win the lottery. He came to God in prayer. “Lord, why didn’t you let me win the lottery?”

So the next Sunday, he went on to church and made sure he tithed. “If I give, I am sure to receive something in return.” The next lottery drawing came along, and nothing. Again, he wondered why God did not answer his prayer.

The next Sunday came along and the man was determined to get his prayer answered. As the offering plate made its way to him, he pulled out his wallet and dumped all his remaining money into the plate. God will surely answer my prayer now, the man thought to himself. God said that whatever you pray for, you will receive, then I am sure to win the lottery now.

The next lottery drawing came and went, and still he did not win. The man dropped to his knees and cried out. “God, you said you will answer the prayers of the faithful, why haven’t you answered mine?” It was then when a voice boomed down from Heaven that said, “Meet me half way, buy a ticket.”
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>>146097
Its been up for debate for a couple millennia but the basic interperetation is that he is reffering to the arrogance wealth brings coupled with the idea that faith and faith alone leads to heaven. Its also important to understand the historical context. The hebrews believed that wealth was a sign of gods blessing and guranteed salvation. Jesus was rebuking the claim, saying its harder for a rich man to humble himself before god. These Protestants literally go opposite to a major change christianity brings from Judaism.
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>>145941
I wonder who could be behind this post.
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>>146107
>hebrews believed that wealth was a sign of gods blessing and guranteed salvation
Where in the Talmud does it say that?
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>>146162
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/judaism-on-greed/

Its one of those abrahamic things thats less about the book and more about the culture it springs from.
>God gives someone more wealth than others
>That someone has a responsibility to help others
>But it must be done in a responsible manner (modern example is giving a homeless guy change that he will spend on booze is worse than not giving at all)
>Not being charitable and hoarding "divine bounty" shows a lack of faith
>Some horrible shit happened in the guise of "responsible charity"

Its part of a larger culture that lead to Jesus splitting Jews and Christians. From the linked page is a practice where wealthy jews would give marked coins to beggars which would not be accepted by other shopkeepers. When the poor died of starvation they would just take their coins back. Divine bounty is no longer a material wealth thing in judaism but spiritual/moral wealth. The various churches and temples have had some overhauls in the last couple thousand years. The passage about the needle is just a hard "no" on material wealth having any relation to spiritual wealth.
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>>145824
>Lol you guys wonder why the left is losing

When will this meme die?
YES, Hillary was massively unpopular.
YES, it's the EC, not the popular vote that counts
BUT: Hillary STILL beat Donald by three million votes.
Any story you spin that says "dems didn't win the support of the voters because...." ignores the fact that Trump did an even poorer job of romancing the voters.
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>>145903
>Doesn't your amendment specifically say to not let religion influence politics
It's actually more a case of "no favorites".
That's why Trump _could_ say "no blacks allowed to immigrate", but can't say "no Muslims allowed".
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>>145824

That's not a strawman, though.

Most of them are mindless trash who shouldn't have a say in much of anything, including their own lives and especially not who rules them.
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>>146938
You know how I know it's a strawman? Because I'm a Christian conservative and I'm none of those things.

You're as bad as the bigots of history, dehuminizing their opposition to make themselves feel morally superior
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A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
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>>146959
Hint: human ingenuity & scientists came up with the rowboats, moterboats and helicopters.
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> I think there are cycles.”
i share this belief
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>>146969
You can think there are cycles all you want, it's easy to prove that there are. They're based on volcanic activity and solar activity more. What climate scientists are saying is that we've thrown another variable into the mix, and the kind of temperature rise we're seeing doesn't match the patterns from the volcanic and solar activity.

We've fucked the cycle, and not because we've somehow eliminated the other factors, but because we've added a new one. I've heard people smugly point to a point where there was next to no warming, a sort of plateau, and say "Well explain that, why is the earth not warming?" And the answer is "BECAUSE THE TEMPERATURE WAS SUPPOSED TO FUCKING DROP DURING THAT TIME, YOU MORON!" The "cycle", as it was supposed to exist by measurements of the other two natural climate changing forces, indicated a period of cooling, and we completely fucking offset it.
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>>145809

I'm taking this analogy for future use.

Thank (you)
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>>146969
>> I think there are cycles.”
>i share this belief

Yeah, yeah....
1970's: Global Warming isn't a concern, it's a natural, 7-year cycle.
1980's: Global Warming isn't a concern, it's a natural, 20-30 year cycle (el Nino).
2000's: OK, it's not just getting warmer, let's call it "Climate Change", but it's still not real, somehow.
2010's: OK, it's real, but can we be sure we're the cause?
...
Up next:
2020's: Alright, it's real, and we're the cause, but can we do anything about it?
2030's: Fine! It's real, we're the cause, we CAN do something about it, but why bother?
2040's: Temperate zones overflowing with climate refugees, western civilization falls to brown people with an essentially republican mentality on science.
2050's: Climate change finally halted (after severe desertification of most of the Earth) due to end of post-collapse "Mad-Max" phase when the last of the old tech is finally used up.
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>>147011
More like 1990 "Miami will be underwater by 209"
1999 "Miami will be under water by 2012"
2012 "ok maybe in 100 years".

The predictions are all wrong almost always.

Humans have bit effect on the climate
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>>146969
Most sane people do.
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>>146944

>I'm a Christian conservative and I'm none of those things.

t. Every braindead Christian conservative I've ever met

The worst part about a good chunk of them is how clueless they are about their inanity. They'll actually say "I'm a rational person, I don't even consider myself a Conservative, I vote according to facts" despite never voting any other way than what their Conservative masters tell them.

When the retarded gossip goes around about their chosen candidate it's "This shit is completely fake, obviously it's a conspiracy by the liberals to make him look bad, I don't dignify it by considering any part of it true". When it comes out about the opponent it's "%100 true, I knew it, what a phony lying commie socialist, if he were to die tonight the world would be better off, fuck him and his family".

If I were to give you the benefit of the doubt I'd have to consider you the 1-in-a-1,000,000 freak in a sea of morons.
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>>147030
Oh look /r/atheism is leaking again
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>>147031

Point out anything bad said about Christianity as a religion, rather than Christian conservatives as a demographic.
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I don't get it

Why is it so hard to believe that billions of people can have no negative effect on the planet?
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>>146962
Hint: Whether it's through god or not is irrelevant. Take what you're given and assume what you want. The other option is drowning.
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>>147030
Spoken like a true jackass
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>>147116
Sorry about your conservative fee fees.
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>>147116

Don't be so salty, m8, you sound like one o' dem commie liberals 'n shiet.
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>>147120
Lol go back to >>>/pol/
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>>147011
In the 1970's the climatological community actually believed in the global cooling hypothesis.
Not that I completely dismiss the concept of man-made climate change, but it's not really a science with a perfect track record.
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>>147207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_AtHkB4Ms&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP&t=2s&index=3

No they didn't.
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>>147207
>Not that I completely dismiss the concept of man-made climate change, but it's not really a science with a perfect track record.


I hope things get so bad we can kill the likes of you out of necessity.
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>>145905
>>146057
A child molester, or someone accused of being a child molester by tin foils on the internet?
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