First on CNN: Russian officials bragged they could use Flynn

>Flynn has emerged as a central figure -- and Trump's biggest liability -- in the intensifying investigations into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. His financial ties to Turkish government interests, which paid him $530,000 in a lobbying deal that he failed to disclose during the campaign, are also under scrutiny by federal investigators.

>One major concern for Obama administration officials was the subject of conversations between Flynn and Kislyak that took place shortly after President Barack Obama slapped new sanctions on Russia for meddling in the election. Sources tell CNN that Flynn told Kislyak that the Trump administration would look favorably on a decision by Russia to hold off on retaliating with its own sanctions. The next day, Putin said he wouldn't retaliate.

>Sources say Flynn also told Kislyak that the incoming Trump administration would revisit US sanctions on Russia once in office. The US has applied sanctions on Russia since 2014 for its actions in Ukraine.

>Flynn's calls with Kislyak in December have received the most attention, but his relationship with the Russian ambassador goes back four years.

>He first met Kislyak in June 2013 during an official trip to Russia, according to The Washington Post. He led the Defense Intelligence Agency at the time and met his counterparts at the Russian military intelligence agency known as the GRU.

>In December 2015, Flynn attended a gala honoring the Kremlin-run TV network RT. Documents released last month revealed that Flynn was paid $45,000 to attend the event, where he sat at the same table as Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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>Officials noticed an uptick in communication between Flynn and Kislyak shortly after Flynn's trip to Moscow in December 2015.

>Trump angrily denied any collusion with Russia this week and denounced the newest investigation -- now in the hands of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III -- as "a witch hunt."

>And he has remained steadfast in his loyalty to Flynn, even as the scrutiny surrounding his fired aide continues to weigh down his presidency. Trump urged then-FBI Director James Comey in February to drop the bureau's investigation into Flynn and "let this go," according to a memo Comey wrote at the time. The conversation, first reported by The New York Times earlier this week, has opened the President up to charges from critics of obstruction of justice.

>Trump's obvious bond with Flynn, like his relationship with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and other top advisers, appears rooted in the fact that they supported his then-longshot presidential campaign last year at a time when most Republicans were ostracizing him.

>>141524
>First on CNN: Russian officials

FAKE.

>>141527
Nope.

>>141524

FAKE

>>141534
Sorry it hurts your feelings but it isn't fake.

>>141542
Yeah really? Then lets see some proof that these sources actually exist, let's see some of these people come forward with actual evidence rather then what may as well be just internet hearsay. Put up or shut up.

>>141553
So let me get this straight. You honestly thin they just made it up to hurt Trump?

>>141524
>sources say

Turns out you can print whatever you want as long as you write your source off as anonymous.

>>141556
Turns out that when you just print some shit that you literally made up and it turns out to be untrue, your credibility suffers so badly that you usually get fired and become unhirable as a journalist.
That's the reason serious news outlets retract stories when they turn out to be wrong, which usually means they were provided by an unreliable source.

Of course people like yourself love latching onto these retractions and viewing them as proof that the offending outlet actually has NO sources at all and makes up all their stories. But that's not how journalistic integrity works. If you can't believe CNN has sources within the so-called "intelligence community" willing to share relatively unspecific information like the OP story, then that's your prerogative. It just makes you a kook with a severe case of double standards and (hopefully) cognitive dissonance.

>>141560
>It just makes you a kook with a severe case of double standards and (hopefully) cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, putting aside the part of due process that reserves the right of the accused to face their accuser, no amount of shaming and appeals to authority change the fact that anonymous sources are not credible prima facie, especially not when it comes to accusations of criminality.

>>141564
All in due time in the course of the investigation.

>>141568
>All in due time in the course of the investigation.
If all I had was anonymous and third party hearsay, I wouldn't be this confident.

You are about to experience a level of disappointment and confusion that you likely haven't felt since Hillary's "stunning defeat".

>>141570
You are about to experience the Ken Starr effect, kid. Buckle up for the next 4 years.

>>141573
>You are about to experience the Ken Starr effect, kid.

We aren't dealing with a Democratic President accused of sexual impropriety.

Also, Monica has a name, testified in court, provided physical evidence, etc... you know, was actually more than an "anonymous source" or an "unnamed victim".

>>141574
You're right, this isn't like during Clinton's term because Clinton had a 60%+ approval rating.

You're acting like it's just CNN that has confirmed it. Do you know what multiple independent sources means? All the different reports are telling you one thing and you're sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LALALA ANONYMOUS SOURCES!! DIDNT HAPPEN!". How long do you expect to keep this up? 1 year? 2? The investigation isn't going away and it's only going to get worse, not better, for Trump and his administration.

>>141574
It's like there isn't a difference between an international counter intelligence case and a personal perjury criminal case.

>>141576
>this isn't like during Clinton's term because Clinton had a 60%+ approval rating.
Gee it's almost like the public's polled opinion of president has nothing to do with whether or not they commited criminal acts. Shocker!

>You're acting like it's just CNN that has confirmed it.
If it's anonymous, unconfirmed, or unnamed, it's not "confirmed". That's not how evidence works.

>Do you know what multiple independent sources means?
Do you know that if they're all anonymous, unconfirmed, or unnamed, they're all equally and independently as worthless?

>How long do you expect to keep this up? 1 year? 2?
Despite Democrats best attempts to drag this out and use this as a midterm weapon, the investigation won't last till the end of the year once they realize there's still no actual fucking evidence showing criminal acts.

>The investigation isn't going away and it's only going to get worse, not better, for Trump and his administration.
Source: anonymous official.

>>141578
>It's like there isn't a difference between an international counter intelligence case and a personal perjury criminal case.

It's like there isn't a difference between tangible, physical evidence from verified, non0hding individuals and intangible, unverified, anonymous accusations from shadowy intelligence "sources".

Oh wait, yes there is.

>>141578
Yeah, keep speaking your lies. Your day of reckoning will come. We'll destroy all of your cities before we let some pizza pedo canibal bitch start World War III.

>>141524
>CNN

Lol this will be good

>>141581
Personally, I'd get rid of all 17 of our so called intelligence agencies. Muricca doesn't need em, and Americans don't want em. They'll be no more spies or secrets on American soil.

>>141527
DIS

This is what is actually happening:

https://www.infowars.com/leaked-chat-logs-purport-to-show-deep-state-planting-anti-trump-stories-with-media/

>>141588
Trump scares the establishment, because he's an honest, just man who will burn all the cucks.

>>141598
>>141588
https://youtu.be/kFyrBTRHd70

>>141579
>>141581
>>141582
>>141583
>>141585
>>141586
>>141588
>>141598
lol total denial

Meanwhile:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article151149647.html
>Flynn stopped military plan Turkey opposed – after being paid as its agent

>>141601
>Spending this much time to correct the record

Found the basement shill

>>141609
Found the /pol/kid. You're lost, junior.

>>141628
>/pol/kid
This isn't even a thing

>>141631
Kids on bikes.
https://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/1271975/#1272483

>>141555
CNN, the network that was founded by Turner to undermine Bush Sr. Who cheated the debates, pushed how much fake news? More or less than the WaPo?

>>141645
CNN was founded 10 years before you think it was and Trump has had a war going with WaPo since they criticized his plans for a hotel in the former federal post office building 2 years before the election. What you are referring to as "cheated the debates" was the actions of one or two independent contractors and the news you think is fake isn't the real fake news.

>>141649

.13¢ have been added to your account, thanks for correcting the record!

ShareBlue Inc.

>>141650
Go back to ShareRed
>>>/pol/

>>141555
Possibly, yes. The people who own cnn have no real fondness for people like Trump. That said, I really can't say for sure. All I know is that this russia stuff looks like tedious hysteria with nothing serious behind it.

>>141658
>nothing serious behind it
You'd have to be living under a rock to say so.

>>141660
Obama did far worse in his first 10 days then Trump has in 100, yet who gets all the negative publicity but /ourguy/ Don!

>>141661
Whatever Obama did or didn't do doesn't justify what Trump and his people did.

>>141662
Meh

>>141669
Clinton complains that Russia hacked her e-mail and showed America the truth. Meanwhile she arms rebels all over the world to overthrow legitimate governments.... How can anyone buy in to her bullshit?

If Russia was involved though, it was an act of pure goodness to support elections and democracy, not "undermine" them. There is still absolute zero proofs for Russia's role, though.

By the way, Obama heavily influenced the French elections by openly supporting Macron and being a gimmick in his campaign, even doing videos for him.
Imagine Putin doing videos for Hillary or Trump. What?

But in Obama's case, nothing but the sound of crickets.
The United States literally over threw a government over fucking Bananas.. and women people are bitching about Russia lol

>>141691
Exactly. There's major groupthink going on. Even a lot of Russia-obsessed people I've talked with don't know exactly what the conspiracy is. "B-b-but...Putin!" .....OK, and? HRC and many Dems don't want to admit he beat Hillary fair and square, so they invented the Russian collusion narrative. It's pathetic.

We have reached the point where telling the truth is subversion and lying is patriotism. Remember, Obama's intelligence people went before Congress and lied through their teeth by denying that the NSA was tapping every communication on the planet. Did they get reprimanded by President Obama for lying? Are you kidding? Hell no. They got a pat on the back. So Snowden goes public to show that they were lying and what happens? He gets called a traitor, for exposing top intelligence officials lying to Congress! We are through the looking glass here. Trump and Seth Rich are heroic for showing the extent of the Liberal establishment's corruption! RIP Seth Rich.

>>141692
US and the West is the most mindcontrolled population on earths, especially compared to Russia or Syria, but it seems like Trump and internet have spun this MK ULTRA program out of control and made liberals or the left in the US go totally mad and makes conservatives or alt right look sane. Scary and totally dangerous.

For instance, MSM won't tell how the russians and iranians stepped in and cleaned the american funded mess that was islamic state in syria. Now kids are starting to go to school again and christians in syria are celebrating the fact that they escaoed the american intervention and were saved.. by russia and iran. This story is only found on RT and Breitbart. Why is that,...hmmmmmm?

>>141691
>>141692
>>141694
>>140474

The Russian bot spam on /news/ is real.

>>141695
Your post is this same type of totally mindless, pathetic, laughable and hysterical nonsense. Don't you feel ashamed? It's childish. Why do you want war with Russia? Why do you focus on this when there are other, much more influential foreign manipulators in the US like Soros who has been manipulating elections for CENTURIES? Oh yeah, the reason is that you're likely a paid shill trying to focus on this total nonsense story that makes everyone associated with it look like a deranged schoolmarm throwing a temper tantrum. The reason Trump won wasn't because cartoon villain mastermind Putin hacked the elections. The reason was that your party nominated the most corrupt, least likable candidate in living memory. Try dealing with reality instead of concocting up these ludicrous fantasies.

>>141694
>MSM won't tell

You are free to "tell" whatever you want and people are free to listen.
If the MSM is not properly educating the population then alternatives to the MSM will appear and people will listen to them instead (this has already happened).
If the MSM or the alternative is giving false information or incomplete context, people will get wise to that when they realize their knowledge isn't producing the desired outcomes and will stop paying attention.

This is how a free media works. It's an open marketplace of ideas, not a guarantee that every news organization shares your perspective or gives you complete facts and full context.
It's not possible to have a guarantee of those things without some sort of watchdog organization and enforcement which only the government can supply. And when government gets into the business of regulating the news, that sets an even more dangerous precedent.

>MK ULTRA program
Where does a conspiracy with the CIA come in? What explanatory power does that offer? What about Fox News?
If journalists that don't like Trump give him less favorable coverage, and if Trump has bad ideas that fair and factual coverage would produce reporting that sheds a less favorable light on him for good reason, then that is sufficient to explain the range of media coverage you see of Trump today.

If you need to suspect a CIA conspiracy without any evidence to offer that that is a more convincing explanation, then you're the one who is deluded. If you want, ask Trump to unclassify the information regarding the mass government conspiracy, as president he is privy to and has the right to unclassify all information and doing so would totally discredit many of his opponents. What's he waiting for? Let's hear about the CIA-FBI-CNN-MSNBC-NPR-Fox News-Whatever conspiracy from Trump.

>>141694
>especially compared to Russia or Syria
in Russia, people are still tortured by police to extort money. Journalists are regularly assassinated.
http://www.humanrightseurope.org/2017/03/russia-court-awards-e45000-to-police-electro-shock-torture-victim/

>>141692
>HRC and many Dems don't want to admit he beat Hillary fair and square, so they invented the Russian collusion narrative. It's pathetic.
I will admit it; we didn't underestimate Trump. We overestimated many conservatives. I just want him to be removed from office for treason.

>>141691
>Meanwhile she arms rebels all over the world to overthrow legitimate governments.... How can anyone buy in to her bullshit?
She's not personally arming rebels. Good or bad, that was the position of the US government she served under. Those policies were meant to serve US interests and were public knowledge, no matter how much you disagree with them. Obama's was an order of magnitude more transparent than Trump's.

What was done in Lybia and arming rebels, as much as one might disagree, is materially different than maintaining financial relations with an adversarial government and promising them favors "under the table" while in office. That's a concealed effort to use one's authority to subvert US interests for personal gain.

>>141588
Big, if true (and it is)

>>141588
I'd bet my ass this is happening right now, and not a single tv news source will discuss it

>>141814
That's because Alex Jones and his little website are a joke and you would have to be one of his gullible tinfoilfaggot fanboys to believe that crap.

>>141737
Let us know when you find a real source.

>>141823

>article lists several sources and intelligence statements

>Calls people tinfoil conspiracy theorists while believing the Washington "annonymous source" Post Russia crap

>>141814
Who cares what the source of information is.
Is it true??

>>141829
InfoWars is not a news organization, Alex Jones lies through his teeth and then apologizes when threatened with lawsuits.

Of course the source is kept anonymous. If you work in the government and you're tired of Trump's treasonous bullshit, who are you going to leak to? InfoWars?

>>141829
Go back to infowars, Alex, nobody is buying your crap here.

>>141831
/news/ cares. Read the sticky.

>>141834
Gtfo reddit

>>141859
Your board is more reddit than mine, /pol/kid, go back there.

>>141833
What constitutes as a news organization? Tweed jackets and red infographic backdrops?

Annonymous sources can't be cross examined. You expect people to eat that wholesale?

Annonymous officials stated you might be a wet towel cone sitter. More to follow.

>>141861
>pol/kid
When did newfags be ome proud of their faggotry?

>>142095
When /pol/ literally became kids on bikes.
see >>>/qa/1341881

>>142107
So you're the one from /pol/. I don't care about your neme faggotry.

Stfu already you god damn cry baby.

>Moskals and Moskal Brain Damage

spreading worldwide fuck youuuuuuuu intertubes

>>142140
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the maximum amount of buttmad possible, how mad are you right now?

>>142146
You're the one obsessed with /pol/ crying about it in every thread, probably. Shit is not even relevant. You have issues.

>>141861
>Go back to /pol/

Dude, 4chan IS /pol/

>>142154
>>142164
>>>/pol/

>>141834
When the Hillary unleashes operation Millennium Shrimp and Gumbo, you'll care.

>>142164
Stop it! Can't you see how much this hurts feelings?

>>142174
Yes, it makes /pol/kids so mad they have to resort to the "4chan IS /pol/" meme to reaffirm themselves.

>>142164

yes yes give me those replies yes what's the matter cant even brigade yourselves to the top of news anymore

>>141524
>sources say

Sigh.

>>141650

10 rubles have been deposited into your account!

>>141649
Funny thing is they cheated again with Clinton and Donna Brazille

>>141694
>>141697
>like Soros who has been manipulating elections for CENTURIES

I was pretty sure you were doing parody with the Syrian Christians celebrating Iran and Russia, but thanks for clinching it with that line.

Still, too subtle with 4chan's issues of actual Kremlin spam. Though you could still be a shill who's defecting by being just slightly too subtle with your English for your supervisors....

>>145296
The Russian theory horse has been beaten so often it's not even a horse anymore

>>141524
FAKE NEWS
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>>141555
This IS the same CNN that teased the possibility that the Pissgate Dossier was somehow legitimate despite knowing there had been no confirmations.

>>141524
>CNN
This is /news/ not /fakenews/

>>145390
That never happened.

>>145415
>>145311
If you don't like mainstream sources then go back to >>>/pol/

>>141588
>Infowars

>>145608
Thanks CIA

>>141524
>sources say
>sources say
>sources say
>sources say
Everytime.

>>141542
Dear CNN,
All of the mainstream media outlets who are in clintons pocket seem to be all sharing the same "anonymous" sources.
I used to love CNN until it became apparent they were pushing an agenda when BLM and the shootings of african teenagers were weaponized as campaign issues and pushed HEAVILY on the mainstream. That was way back then, when I switched over to Fox (equally as propaganda-y, just from the less annoying side)
Recently, it seems all of the left's propaganda platforms have all of this insider information, but then why do we have no actual concrete names?
"It'll all come out in due time during the investigation"
I'm willing to bet it won't.

>>145767
>Fox News
>equally as propaganda-y
you're not fooling anyone

>>145768
You caught me. I'm Jesse Waters, and this is my world.

>>145769

why at the fuck is this fucking bait thread still alive?

>>145776
Because niggers.

>anonymous sources

>>145776
Because this is /news/, not /pol/, and it's not bait,, it's reality.

>>145877
>being so much of a faggot that you believe anything cnn says

>>145877
2 scoops!

>>141555
Turner funded the Clinton campaign

>Let us know when you find a real source.
Like CNN lmao

>>141555
CNN has no trouble lying and making shit up
Just look at how their staff helped to rig a debate
And how they lied about reading emails on Wikileaks being illegal for anyone outside the media

>sources told CNN.
>current and former governments officials said.
>one former Obama administration official said
>Another former administration official said
>the Russians regarded Flynn as an ally, sources said.
>Officials cautioned, however,
>Sources say Flynn also told

Getting a little tired of this shit. What journalism can we have when anyone can whip up sources that magically say whatever they are needed to say at any given time to support such narratives?

>>148930
Didn't we just have a leaker arrested a while ago, and aren't leaks acknowledged by the White House as an actual issue?

>>148941
>Didn't we just have a leaker arrested a while ago

Nah, it was just the CIA forcing her to fall on her sword to lend the Russian story more credibility. They have the proof on /pol/.

>>141645
>founded by Turner
You mean, the same guy who supports the "murder Trump" Julius Caesar play being put on in Central Park? Of course CNN is impartial and wouldn't do anything to push the anti-Trump agenda.