Can Big Bird survive Trump?

>(“Actually coal miners pay little in federal taxes,” Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler pointed out on Twitter.)

>The CPB, established under President Lyndon Johnson in 1967, has long been a target for conservatives. The conservative Heritage Foundation regularly calls for its elimination in budget proposals, and Mitt Romney famously called out Big Bird in a 2012 presidential debate.

>“I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS. I'm going to stop other things. I like PBS, I love Big Bird. Actually like you, too,” Romney said to PBS anchor Jim Lehrer, who was moderating the debate. “But I'm not going to -- I'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for.”

>(While Sesame Street is now in a deal with HBO, its episodes are still made available for free through PBS — an option that would conceivably be eliminated if PBS were unable to survive.)

>Republicans argue that they do not want to see the demise of the stations, only the demise of taxpayer funding for them.

>“The idea is that it can be privately financed,” said Paul Winfree, the White House’s director of budget policy and a Heritage Foundation alum.

>The CPB was quick to defend itself Thursday, and push back against the notion that federal dollars are not necessary to preserve the station.

>“There is no viable substitute for federal funding that ensures Americans have universal access to public media’s educational and informational programming and services. The elimination of federal funding to CPB would initially devastate and ultimately destroy public media’s role in early childhood education, public safety, connecting citizens to our history, and promoting civil discussions – all for Americans in both rural and urban communities,” said CPB President Patricia Harrison in a statement.

>Some experts tend to agree, arguing that private financing would not be universally available. It would not be the stereotypical NPR listeners in Boston, Brooklyn and Washington who would suffer the consequences.

>The “money that really makes a difference goes to areas where the public radio and TV stations cannot survive on donations,” said David Wessel, the director of the Hutchins Center on Fiscal and Monetary Policy at the non-partisan Brookings Institution.

>Wealthy metropolitan areas would likely be able to continue to support their public stations, while poorer rural areas — places that lack access to quality news programming to begin with — would lose out. That could give pause to a number of Republican representatives.

>The move also illuminates a problem Wessel sees with the entire budget proposal.

>“This is budgeting by bumper sticker slogan. It gives the president some applause lines for his rallies: We are going to stop sending your tax money to National Public Radio. We are cutting foreign aid,” he said. “This approach obscures the facts: The U.S. government’s debt, swollen by the Great Recession, will grow to historically unprecedented levels not because of increases in annually appropriated discretionary spending, but because of rising federal spending on retirement and health programs, largely driven by the aging of our society.”

>The universality of public broadcasting that supporters argue make it so crucial also make it tougher to eliminate for purely political reasons. There are many federal programs with far fewer fans — and far smaller budgets — whose elimination would be more politically palatable.

>Big Bird can likely rest easy — he survived Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and both Presidents Bush. He will probably endure Trump, too.

BUT HER EMAILS

>>122427
>he desperately wants stated-funded television shows
If they can't survive withot assistance, they don't deserve it.

Why do we need this liberal indoctrination? Get rid of PBS, and the arts fund. America should be a strong a righteous nation.

>>122421
>have 8 years to reduce government size and spending like you promised
>do the opposite
>kick scream and bitch when your opposition starts doing it and picks things you don't like

2017 and Democrats Discover: private donations!

>>122436
You don't like PBS? A channel that plays nothing but children's shows? So evil and conniving?

>>122442
That its primary funding is from taxpayers. Just run some commercials and ramp up those donation drives. I bet Marlboro would pay a bundle for a morning slot.

The last time this shit happened, Mr. Rogers was there to save the day.

Mr. Rogers isn't around any more.

>>122442

PBS has shown to have some learning benefits, especially with poor children who have limited TV selection. It's yet another federal program that helps a sizeable portion of Trump's base but is being cut by Trump because fuck that, we need more military spending (never mind that the current military budget is sufficient, just poorly allocated).

>>122445
>especially with poor children who have limited TV selection
Even the poorest of kids of regular internet access in the US.

Welcome to 2017, TV is obsolete, there's no reason to burn tax payer dollars on it so you can feel good about yourself for helping regardless of results.

>>122449

Internet access is not universal. Many lower income people resort to using the local library for internet access. But take a guess at what's on the list of small agencies getting their funding cut entirely.

>burn dollars

It's less than 1/10th of 1% of spending.

You already knew this though and I'm pretty sure you're just being a disingenuous shitbag. Oh well, off to lunch.

>>122445
not only do we need to increase military spending, but we also need too give more tax havens like health savings accounts, tax credits under the new healthcare plan, and get rid of the alternative minimum tax, so that rich people making millions can pay less! We need to reduce the deficit in any way possible but whatever you do dont tax wealthy people!

Why should tax payers fund democrat propaganda for children?

Liberals control school through college, and all the TV kids watch before and after school.

As if that's not enough, they want amnesty for 30 million illegal democrat voters.

Enough of this shit. Fuck you all.

From the Texas Republican Party Platform:

>Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

>>122454
>today on big bird!
>sesame street, la la la!
>immigrants are filthy degenerates, says the cookie monster
>if you see a black man in your neigborhood, call 9-1-1!, elmo says
>black kid sitting at home watching this calls 911 on his dad
>tomorrow on seseme street, we teach you how to expel jews from your community! Oscar proclaims

Get a better narrative. Notice how conservatives dont want to change the programming, they want to get rid of it.

>>122421

>>122427
>>122436
>>122459

Sesame Street is owned by HBO.

You're all fucking idiots willing to believe anything about Le Evil Cheeto Man, aren't you?

>>122455
How is this a bad thing?

>>122449
>I do no research and literally get my facts from my own asshole.

Its even on HBO now.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sesame-street-hits-highest-ratings-23940

>Sesame Workshop, the non-profit educational organization behind the kids TV evergreen on PBS Kids Go!, on Monday touted a nearly 60% year-over-year ratings increase for February, the latest month, for which the public broadcaster reported figures. And it cited format and visual changes implemented this year to keep up with changing viewing habits as key drivers.

>The 40th season, which premiered in November, is averaging a 3.5 Nielsen rating for the current TV season in the core kids ages 2-5 demo. A spokeswoman said this is the best season average since 2007 for the show, which airs Monday-Friday.

>The producers said the show is maintaining its audience among 2-year-olds, but showing double-digit increases among 3- and 4-year-olds (up 21% and 32%, respectively, over last season).

>>122460
they still release all the episodes for free on PBS, read the article.

>>122459
Changing the programming to be apolitical would be ideal.

But liberals cannot allow this. You inject your dogma into everything.

So the only solution is to limit your power, as must be done with all authoritarians.

Try to understand, your form of "education" is steering this country toward it's death. Liberal education reduces critical thinking, in favor of self esteem.

They're better off playing games with friends.

>>122464
I know this might be hard for you to imagine, but isn't a liberal show or even a political at all, my partisan friend.

>>122464
>liberals cannot allow this
>republican majority in house and senate
>republican president

>>122466
I've seen sesame street and its 100% liberal.

I love how these reddit cucks think they can just blatantly lie and we'll all just believe them.

Like I don't have my own tv, I grew up watching that shit. Fuckong faggot.

>>122467
Read harder.

You see? Sesame street doesn't even work. This retard has self esteem for no reason.

>>122470
Are you the guy who thinks centrist Obama was a socialist?

>>122473
Communist, not socialist.

>>122474
Deep down, perhaps, but this is a matter of semantics.

He is anti American, liberal, probably communist as many liberals are. He was inspired by saul alinsky iirc.

>>122473
He was a communist Muhammadan foreigner raised in a UN sponsored madrasa.

>>122449
I think anon is probably right about the rise of internet media being the death of PBS. It'd be pretty easy to defund the PBS and simply move all of its programming to an internet based TV, which would be a hell of a lot less expensive paying for bandwidth than it would be airtime.

If anything, defund PBS and reinvest the money in internet infrastructure around the US.

>>122421
It's obvious NPR and PBS get the axe due to them being liberal by nature.

>>122421
> We oppose .... challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

GOP platform in the nutshell; valuing personal beliefs and parental authority above all else.

>>122520
Was ment for >>122455

>>122520
>GOP platform in the nutshell; valuing personal beliefs and parental authority above all else.
Sounds good. Was that supposed to be bad?

>>122520
I'd be pretty pissed if the government was pushing an alternative narrative to mine on the topic of morality or other non-academic topics. Doesn't matter if I were a secular father and the government was pushing Christian beliefs in the south or a Catholic mom and a professor was hammering home his belief on the value of pro-choice. Both sides of the isle have tried to hijack education to fit their agenda, so either we continue to feud over what to teach our children or we both push to leave political affiliations at the door when teaching.

>>122522
It means banning lectures on certain subjects, such as;

environment (global warming), evolution,
philosophy,
psychology,
sexuality,
and so on.

It also turns students into willing slaves by prohibiting them from thinking for themselves. This is a slipery slope of authoritarian principles.

>>122528
Also, it creates further problems when it comes to understanding people with different religions, different sexuality.

It's the core reason why the GOP opposed LGBT rights and abortions; parents don't want their children to become queers and prostitutes.

>>122528
It simply moves discussion of non-academic thought out of schools and back into the home. Personally, I'm fine with that, philosophy is a great example of a topic that has a humongous impact on the thought process of the individual upon studying it when a person is young and impressionable. I'm not saying parents will do any better job of giving an unbiased education to students, but at the end of the day, if someone is going to educate a child on various subjective topics, I'd rather them come from parents instead of public workers. And I say this as a high school teacher.

>>122530
Evolution is not a part of "various subjective topics." This is where your whole innocence act of "lets all leave politics at the door and do whats best for the children" falls down.

>>122516
we already killed the internet

Remember google fiber coming to a town near you? Dead. Sued by comcast into oblivion, the gov. ruling in their favor. Under Trump, internet bills will actually go up.

>spent the past week slashing many of the agency's previous efforts to make vital telecom services accessible to all. As a result, higher prices on everything from phone calls to downloads are already being handed down, starting with low-wage and imprisoned Americans.

>The FCC also walked back several other efforts by previous leadership on Friday, rescinding recommendations for improving broadband infrastructure

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/02/07/trumps-fcc-is-quietly-gutting-efforts-to-keep-the-internet-affordable/#36cfdb40152c

>>122530
if you were really a teacher you would fucking hate other parents. Parents are fucking idiots.

>>122536
(((DRAIN)))

>>122528
>Global warming
should not be taught because the science is flawed

>Psychology
has largely been debunked (freud) not that this was ever a science to begin with. Some of it is great but your teacher doesn't know the difference (at least mine didnt)

>Sexuality
Should absolutely not be taught to children by some substitute teacher whore who's looking for high school boys to make her feel young again

This shit aint education. This is liberal propaganda and massive welfare for people who can't do, so they "teach."

Math. History. English. History.

That's education. Not this modern bullshit about; How to share; team work; staying organized; being well behaved... this is the focus now and it's destroying minds, mostly the boys.

>>122539
I'm not sure what your point is... but I'm pretty sure thats some /pol/ meme.

The FCC head appointed by Trump is Ajit Varadaraj Pai from Verizon. Enjoy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajit_Varadaraj_Pai

>>122541
>How to share; team work; staying organized; being well behaved... this is the focus now and it's destroying minds, mostly the boys.

And that why we opposed GOP's stance on Education; It creates Assholes such as yourself.

>>122546
You don't know me at all.

Self righteous assholes like you are what this system creates. You cannot even grasp what I'm saying. Programmed like a fuckin robot.

>You bad! Me good! Republican bad! Government good!
>good work Anon A+

>>122549
Yep, definitely an anarchist asshole.

>>122541
So science has no place in your education utopia? Medicine, geology, genetics; all lib propaganda? Do you have any idea how retarded you look right now?

>>122544
It's a pol meme they use to refer to jews. That post is pointing out the irony of campaigning on draining the swamp of corruption and then staffing every seat with the most corrupt fuckhead possible. Pai being a perfect example

>>122454
>A is for Apple and learning to count to 10 is liberal propaganda now

Can republishits quit pretending that they aren't anti-intellectual now?

>>122470
You sound lonely.
Seek help.

>>122550
Yes only anarchists don't like liberal propaganda

>>122555
>huurr science denier

>>122558
>hurr i dont get it

>>122565
>hurr I am a female

I see you all watched sesame street too. Its tough to learn how to think after that shit.

>>122570
>>122549
>>122541
Obvious troll is obvious.

>>122570
>I see you all watched sesame street too. Its tough to learn how to think after that shit.

I see you have a Sesame Street based outlook in life. I too, as an intellectual and a scholar, judge people based on whether they watched Sesame Street as a kid. Arguments don't matter, it's all about the kids shows that teach people how to count.

>>122530
>As a high school teacher
You're so full of shit.
>>122516
>Defined PBS so kids might get internet access eventually and watch more YouTube channels
The whole point of PBS is that it's free and educational.

Can the altright meme posters point out some instances of fucking Sesame Street being 'liberal propaganda'? And for the sake of being a first world nations not include shit like LGBTQ rights, religious tolerance, or immigrants? Because I doubt it.

I get why you people don't like NPR. But those are also typically the idiots who think NPR is only one radio station, and not myriad big stations from county to county.

>>122574

>I get why you people don't like NPR. But those are also typically the idiots who think NPR is only one radio station, and not myriad big stations from county to county.

Because according to mediabiasfactcheck.com, they're liberal.

>>122576
What does that have to do with anything you quoted? I said I understand why you guys don't like them, but not ever NPR outlet is news related.
Also

>In-between left center and least bias

>These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

>Factual Reporting: HIGH
Must be propaganda

Obola when

>>122454
Most of pbs's programming is educational, and hobbyist. News-Hour gets political, but I'd say its the least biased out of every major news network on tv. Incidentally had a very fair, informative documentary on Trump's rise to the white-house.

My parents are proud trump supporters but religiously watch pbs. Can't help but take satisfaction in them losing antiques roadshow and america's test kitchen. Fucking boomers.

>>122576
At a certain point being respectful to you non-white audience requires you to be center-left.

>$485 million
Wow, it's literally nothing in terms of the federal budget. This is a move that serves only to spite the opposition.

Meanwhile, military/aerospace contractors are having a big party because they have another $50 billion coming their way.

>>122594
>spite the opposition
The white boomers who got Trump in the white house are the main demographic of pbs. Once again he's fucking a lot of his own voters over.

>>122596
Yeah that's why I said spite the opposition and not please his base.

>>122596
Ive heard it argued that they may be selling out older voters (who may die) to try and gain younger voters who are becoming increasingly democratic.

proposed healthcare bill gives tax cuts to young healthy people who dont need them (the same rate the elderly get) and releases young people from the mandatory statute.

Cut PBS which has an older base fits into that narrative.

>>122602
Good point. I predict that if trump is in a bad position coming into re-election he'll legalize weed in a desperation move.

>>122603
>legalize weed
I fucking hope so, but with Sessions that seems very unlikely.

>>122604
He will be told to fuck off if need be. Bannon doesn't give a shit about weed prohibition.

>>122444
And it will turn to TVNZ: Reality tv garbage and prescription drug ads. Along with ads every 10 minutes. Then PBS and NPR will die, and people will be forced to pay more for cable.

>>122602
They still need a see a doctor for their yearly check-up. Too bad the free health clinics are underfunded and understaffed.

>>122441
In reality: Most donations come from wealthy people. People who need PBS are from working class families without cable or elderly. Unless you're a elderly person with a pension check coming in the mail per month.

>>122421
All good things come to an end. I grew up with sesame street, but there's no reason they can't survive on the billion or so toys based on the franchise.

>>122574
>Can the altright meme posters point out some instances of fucking Sesame Street being 'liberal propaganda'?
If someone was constantly asking you "what color is the sky?" You would get tired of answering.

You clearly have no interest in liberal propaganda. Every episode of every kids show has some incorrect philosophical message or immoral moral of the story.

>its ok kids the bad guy turned good and is now our best friend! Nobody is bad!

>omg you bigot not all muslims are like that

>>122586
I agree pbs is better than most, but it still should not recieve tax dollars.

If 90% of the staff was conservative, liberals would be saying the same thing.

>>122621
So that's a no.

>>122622
what if we cut one billion of military spending (638.6 billion), funded it, and reduced the deficit by 500 million? Everybody wins and the military is bloated as fuck.

I never really understood what was the appeal of Sesame Street, other puppet shows like the NHK's Puppet Theater or Tora no Daisuke were vastly superior.

>>122628
They've admitted it, wtf is wrong with you? You don't have a google account?

>>122634
It needs to be that high. We are the only one keeping freedom alive. You'll understand when you're way older.

>Is Sesame Street Spreading Left-Wing Propaganda? Exec Admits, Yes
>http://www.theblaze.com/news/2011/05/31/is-sesame-street-spreading-left-wing-propaganda-exec-admits-yes/

>>122641
>TheBlaze

Uh huh.

>>122641
>We are the only one keeping freedom alive.
Baited/10

Did you even read your link? I'm betting not.
>Ben NotaShill Sharpio
Yeah okay, sure.
>Sesame Street taught ethnic minorities about civil disobedience;
Oh no!
>Happy Days had a subtle anti-Vietnam subtext;
It wasn't subtle at all, and a lot of people were anti-Vietnam, specially the ones who came back, fuck you.
>MacGyver tried to persuade pistol-packing Americans that guns are bad.
Holy fuck, who is retarded enough to think ANY of that was subtle?

>The news may not be surprising considering the left’s recent use of the show’s cuddly character, Elmo. The furry, red puppet has been used to trumpet free internet, lament job loss, and even plug Michelle Obama’s child nutrition bill.
So free internet, job loss being bad, and feeding children are leftist propaganda now?
Get bent.

>>122436

It's nice to have some forms of media that don't rely on private donors or advertising.

Part of having a mixed media that is more likely to shed light on topics that wouldn't otherwise be brought to the public's attention.

I'm OK with hiring some more conservatives in public media. I'm not sure they're categorically discluded at all. If you hire folks with certain credentials, like a science reporter with some background in climatology research, then they're probably going to tend to take views on one end of the political spectrum more than the other. But I'm OK with hiring some more if folks feel like that's a perspective that deserves more coverage.

But as a country to whom free press is foundational, that's not something we should compromise on. There is no radio at least in my neck of the woods that provides science news like public radio. Without that, who would I listen to on my car radio for science journalism? There is no alternative as far as I am aware that's available to people here.

>>122441
>have 8 years to reduce government size and spending like you promised

Who promised this?

When was it promised and why? I don't remember Obama saying anything of the sort.

Democrats generally don't take the view that it's an inherent good that government should be limited.

>>122464
NPR interviewed Richard Spencer. They regularly interview conservative s on every program.

When was the last time Rush Limbaugh or alex Jones invited a democratic politician, let alone a climate scientists, to speak.

Maybe it's a good thing to have a liberal bias in areas that experts have a liberal bias. And a conservative bias in fields that experts lean conservative. Just a thought.

>>122655
That's fine but we're talking about show for children, funded by tax dollars.

>>122670
It's not possible to occupy any ground on any important issue anymore that doesn't get you attacked by both ends of the American political spectrum as either extremist or apathetic.

I guess educational programming for kids in the US should just steer clear of accidentally being relevant with respect to current events.

>>122674
Maybe you don't understand what liberal propaganda is?

Charity is usually done by conservatives fyi

>>122453
Do you actually think pulling this shit helps your case at all? It just makes your look like a passive-aggressive twat pining for a circle jerk, just like everyone else who shitposts like this.

>>122536
Can't say I'm too broken up about that given Google is a terrible and authoritarian company and letting them control even more of the flow of internet traffic than they already do is a bad idea.

>>122546
If those things are your sacred cows than nobody is creating more assholes than people like you who have twisted the education system to treat boys like defective girls.

Where do you think all this alt-right shit is coming from? It's not older conservatives, it's millennial men who are coming around to realizing how utterly feminized their upbringing was and so knee jerk hard in the opposite direction. If you treat boys like they're girls then sooner or later they will discover their differences, their masculinity, they will realize how biased their society is and they will throw themselves headlong into that masculinity. It won't be a healthy measured masculinity guided by the hands of male role models either since your society has all but destroyed those, it'll be at the hands of political ideologues telling them to embrace everything you tried to deny them because it was easier for some incompetent teacher to drug the boys out and make them draw pictures of what diversity and sharing looks like.

>>122683
google wanted to compete, the gov decided not to let them, and this goes for any other company that tries to bring in some competition. it's anti free-market

>>122683
Fuck you and your stallman shit. I want my cheap fiber.

>>122675
Liberal propaganda is apparently anything you disagree with.

>>122684
The 'alt-right' is just another kneejerk groupthink reaction to the SJWs on twitter and not the force of nature in general society you seem to have made them into in your mind. They utilize the same rhetorical arguments as the SJWs do, which makes them at least as bad, and like their SJW counterparts they rarely exist outside of the internet. The republican party is still mostly made up of boomer neocons who will be dead soon.

>>122716
>The 'alt-right' is just another kneejerk groupthink reaction to the SJWs on twitter and not the force of nature in general society you seem to have made them into in your mind. They utilize the same rhetorical arguments as the SJWs do, which makes them at least as bad, and like their SJW counterparts they rarely exist outside of the internet

This. Going on /pol/ is just like going on Tumblr, just different sides of the same coin. Social media first destroyed 4chan and then consumed it.

If he is not a Palestinian, Syrian, Yemeni, or Mexican maybe...

>>122720
Pretty much.

Alt-right are neoreactionaries and nothing more.

>>122436
Are you seriously claiming that this man is spreading "liberal indoctrination"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q

>>122442
Fine.

IF NPR actually becomes impartial instead of far left, it can stay. Otherwise, can NPR and cut PBS funding until it can ONLY afford children's programming.

>>122442
It really doesn't Anyways Sesame Street moved to HBO. It's a complete jewed out shell of what Jim Henson created. Sesame Street is complete shit now.

Most of PBS shows are just recycled programs from the BBC. It has no focus or direction in 21st century.

Name one current educational program apart from NOVA (which was created decades ago) that is worth a damn.

>>122985
NPR is anything but far left. A study in 2012 or so showed they had a slightly left of center bias, but were actually the most centrist of all media outlets.

You're conflating NPR with any number of privately funded podcasts, and with the gov's funding gone NPR will likely slide left as well.

>>122985
How is NPR anything but center to center-right as is?
Maybe within the context of US politics they're center-left.

They gave Richard Spencer a national platform and were impartial to a fault in their interview with him. They invited Republicans from the House Freedom Caucus to talk about Obamacare.

Which right wing radio program invites climate scientists on when they talk about global warming? Invites democratic and liberal politicians on when they talk about the ACA?

Without NPR, there would be no semblance of balance on issues that half the country thinks differently about, because liberal views are less easy to monetize for ad revenue. Oil companies are never going to let money flow to channels that speak neutrally regarding anthropogenic climate change.

>>122985
You confused NPR: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/npr/

to Occupy Democrats: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/occupy-democrats/


Besides, not everything that criticize Breitbart and InfoWars are far-left.

>>122692
>>122714
If Google were anything other than an authoritarian monopoly in the making I'd agree what happened was bad. As it is, I can't give any fucks. Monopolies are anti free-market as well.

>>122716
>Rarely exist outside the internet
Stopped reading there. If you've been anywhere near a humanities department in any large American university you'd say differently. If you've been paying attention at all to the astroturfed push for CoCs within tech communities you'd be saying differently. I suppose all those repeated tantrums from grown children on campuses don't reflect reality right? All those riots were just make believe. Get the fuck out of here with that. The ideas on Twitter and Tumblr don't just spring out of nowhere. Where the fuck do you think they come from in the first place?

>>122720
Difference is, Tumblr is the way it is because those people have been exposed to those ideas from outside influences like their college professors. Find me a university teaching /pol/tard propaganda instead of SJW flavored bullshit. You won't.

>>122729
And? Nobody said any differently. They're reacting to the shitty society the left has built for them. Every single post I see using "reactionary," as if it's its own argument just reminds me of tankies throwing "counter-revolutionary," at anything they don't like and expecting that to fulfill the impetus for an actual argument. It's indicative of a childish worship of the concept of "progress," to the point merely suggesting someone is acting on motivations beyond that dynamic becomes a insult. It's like a homophobe trying to use gay as an insult.

>>122989
>conflating
>look how smart I am

>>123026
>Difference is, Tumblr is the way it is because those people have been exposed to those ideas from outside influences like their college professors. Find me a university teaching /pol/tard propaganda instead of SJW flavored bullshit. You won't.

The Tumblr/SJW crowd don't get their extreme politics from their college professors, but just like the alt-right from a handful of political writers and blogs, some of whom may be college professors somewhere but most being independent journalists and writers. Your average Women's Studies university department isn't teaching subversive radical identity politics anymore than your average Economics department is teaching Libertarian free market capitalism and anti-regulation economic conservatism. Those people on campuses, a large number of whom aren't even students sometimes, are self-radicalized thanks to the literature and memes they consume online and spread among themselves.

>>123026

There are companies that offer alternatives to goolge to the general public and those alternatives don't differ substantially.

There's a danger of a monopoly forming when you have that circumstance, where almost everybody patronizes a single large company for a given demand, in which case the government needs the power to step in and break up the monopoly if that's necessarily in the public interest.

But being a very successful company such that you gain almost all of the market isn't quite the same as becoming a monopoly.

>>123027
Look, man, I can't help that you don't understand English on at least high school level, but don't blame me for it.

>>123054
>ignoring the content of the post
fag.
If I didn't know what it means, I wouldn't have called you on smelling your own farts, fuckwit.

>>122530
WTF non private/preppy high school are you teaching/attending that has philosophy?

>>122541
>Sexuality

Then how do you explain every state that bars sexual education having higher rates of child pregnancy and other sexual related problems?

In theory parents are better. In practice the majority of them shirk their responsibility and make it a tax payer problem when their kids fuck up.

>>123055
Clearly you prefer a more "basic" and stripped down form of English, one that relies on idiom and ad hominem, to make up for the lack of any coherent point of view or intelligence.
Pretty interesting really.

>>123041

>no extreme politics in college

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/30434/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263983/college-claims-stop-white-people-course-not-racist-daniel-greenfield

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8590/state-university-now-offers-stop-white-people-pardes-seleh

http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/17/all-the-rage-taxpayer-funded-colleges-offer-courses-on-americas-problem-of-whiteness/


You are right in a sense though, they're starting the leftist indoctrination earlier than college these days:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/10/19/to-be-white-is-to-be-racist-period-a-high-school-teacher-told-his-class/?utm_term=.c7b30bcd5042

http://nypost.com/2016/07/01/elite-k-8-school-teaches-white-students-theyre-born-racist/

>>123109
>>123109
People pay tens of thousands a year to receive education in BS like "problem of whiteness" (although I don't know much about those classes / majors tbh). But a lot of those costs disproportionately go toward useful training + STEM Dept. which otherwise wouldn't enjoy as much funding.
So while we should be concerned about censorship, vanity, luxury majors being offered by themselves can be beneficial.

>>123041
>handful of political writers and blogs
Nope. Not even close.

In addition to what >>123109 has posted, you can have a look at this, written by someone who was actually part of Obama's education policy committee.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/three-new-years-resolutions-for-white-america_us_586ce501e4b068764965c579


In fact, I challenge you to find me a single Women's Studies course in any large public American university that doesn't include uncritical and sympathetic teachings on topics like Patriarchy theory, wage gaps, rape culture and the like. Find me a Women's Studies course that doesn't sound like one of those if you're so sure they aren't teaching subversive and relativistic nonsense.


>>123111
That Problem of Whiteness class is taught by a Marxist fool who advocates for genocide and celebrated the shooting in Dallas. http://i.imgur.com/nHVorQX.png

>censorship, vanity, luxury majors
That's about the tamest way to describe what amounts to courses designed to radicalize people into positions of extreme hate and cognitive dissonance. The professor above for example teaches another course along side "Problem of Whiteness," that emphasizes the intersection of Leninist ideology with a Black racial struggle and even touches on things like the Haitian Revolution as a positive template for future action.

You're essentially making an argument analogous to keeping those Wahabist madrasas open because they're partially subsidizing the Engineering department. Stop making excuses for this shit and pull your head out of the sand. All you accomplish by doing that is make the problem worse and given the initiative to more extreme people because they're the only ones talking about fixing a problem you're blatantly ignoring. If the American Education system doesn't purge its massive communist infestation it's going to make itself an even bigger target to those who won't be so careful about it, and the public will be on their side.

>>123118
>massive communist infestation
Two things:
You realize you and your other crazies are the only ones who see this that way, right?
Have you gone to a liberel college before? Like attended one for a degree and finished?

>>123109
You didn't even read most of these.

Does the concept of white people having an advantage in life from the beginning because of society just equal indoctrination to you? If so then there's no point in a conversation with you about, because aside from being uneducated on the subject you've made up your mind.

>>123130
>>123131
Same fagging

Why can these threads never stay on topic and always devolve into Marxist propaganda/indoctrination?

>>123132
I think it's because /pol/ itself been infected by said ideology thanks to Bernie Sanders. Ever since Trump became president, the entire board been invaded by socialists.

>>123109
Here's the thing: these are all very recent articles on very recent courses. I never said there wasn't extreme politics on college campuses, only that the driving force behind it is coming from off-campus. What you're seeing now is some colleges pandering to these students to make a quick buck telling them what they already believe, no different from those odd courses you find sometimes relating pop culture like Game of Thrones or video games to something serious.

>>123130
It's crazy to label someone a communist when they use Leninist doctrine as an uncritical teaching aid in between celebrating bloody acts of political violence and genocide? Please tell me how.

>>123131
Not him, but how does that not equal indoctrination to you? Do you think insinuating people own immutable sets of privilege based on their skin color is at all a reasonable stance, especially when all the criteria used to determine that privilege are open to rapid changes? Ironically enough, the only thing about privilege that isn't subject to change with progressive dogma is who it applies to.

If you're going to argue white people own sets of privilege based on their skin color you have to make the same arguments with other groups or you're simply instituting double standards and setting up a system too exploitable with open interpretations and implication. Unless you're willing to admit to the existence of and critically analyze privileges women and minorities enjoy alongside those of whites and men you're simply instituting weasel-worded bigotry and saccharine, platitudinal nonsense that says one thing while clearly implying another.

I guarantee you anyone instructing a course dealing with the concept of white privilege is as close-minded as you're accusing others of being. Nobody who ever instructs others on these concepts is ever as open to conversation or honest debate as you're implying they are and they will always bring along their very own rigid biases.

You have your own mind as made up as he does.

>>123134
This sort of rhetoric has been a part of collegiate discourse in at least some amounts since the late '80s. Lecturing someone on their white/male privilege is not a new thing, it's just become such a large problem it's impossible to ignore anymore.

>>123136
>it's just become such a large problem it's impossible to ignore anymore.
It was actually even worse years ago, peaking in 95 with the OJ trial.

Apparently they've tried to reignite the era with Obama, using illegal aliens in place of blacks. It's not going well obvs.

>>123133
>Socialists
What is wrong with socialism, per se?
We have socialist mail (USPS), but we also have private companies that compete in the same field (UPS, FedEx). So why not have a socialist television network as long as there are competitors in the market?

Not trolling, just hoping for something resembling a philosophical discussion on this.

>>123211
Would you support taxpayer funded neo-Nazi television? Who decides which ideologies are supported by the government?

People seem to have this idea that liberal politics are harmless or neutral. Try to understand that half the country adamantly opposes their politics. Pay for your own shit.

>>123211
Taxes,

Just more taxes.

>>123219
Are you comparing PBS to neo-nazis?

>>123300
No. Was that an argument?

>>123219
>neo-Nazi television
Why the flying fuck would that be preferable to PBS you tard.

Neo Nazis are almost uniformly an assortment of human refuse, useless criminals and addicts.

PBS is educational television produced with the help of experts in their field.

I'm tired of this shitty disdain for education and meritocracy from the right. I'ts fucking embarrassing. It's about as bad as SJW doing the same. I want to live in a country where it's common sense doing research online isn't nearly as valuable as being an expert in a subject.

>>123219
We do pay for our own shit.Our net contribution to the federal budget is higher.

We're going to be paying more for your shit because we have to pay more to offset tarrifs and subsidies that go to you anti-competitive sorts that demand assembly line jobs while the rest of us adapt to market demands.

All the while red states benefit disproportionately from Obamacare.

How about we just let Alabama pay everything on its own and watch it become a third world country overnight. Us blue states can have a functioning civilization.

>>123329
Good job misunderstanding my post. The ultimate debate tactic!

>>123330

A functional republic requires a robust free press.
i think it's nice to have a mix of media, including media that doesn't depend on ad revenue. So I don't think that should be sacrificed.

I dunno, maybe Trump and Republicans in Congress could say, hey, let's pressure public broadcasting to hire a more representative share of conservative experts or give more airtime to covering issues that the conservative portion of the US is interested in.

To be honest I think conservatives are doing themselves a disservice to call these media liberal. PBS really isn't all that liberal.
.
Just going on the PBS website and looking through some of what they have I'm not seeing this strong liberal bent. Unless conservatives allow extractive resource special interests do the thinking for them and tell them what they should be enraged about, because "how will we power the planet without wrecking the climate" is now apparently too liberal for many folks in our country.

>>123303
No, but neither was your post.

>>123332
>To be honest I think conservatives are doing themselves a disservice to call these media liberal. PBS really isn't all that liberal.
I'll take that into consideration.

>>123344
Yes it was. Read better.

>>123350
Just because you say it was, doesn't make it so.

Hyperbole is not really an argument.

>>122421
I never had a problem with Trump but this is bullshit. How about he actually fixes shit instead of getting rid of services that benefit and have benefited people greatly.

>>123989
stop believing headlines dummy

>>123993

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/03/19/npr-pbs-five-reasons-trumps-cuts-make-sense/

>>124038
>stop believing headlines
>Posts BB
Sage for this thread not dying yet

>>122421
Guess they are going to have to survive on the support of viewers like you.

>>122741
Is he around anymore dipshit?

>>124081
lmao