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Another Holistic Doctor Found Murdered

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Another Holistic Doctor Found Murdered

64 Doctor Deaths in Just a Year and a Half

http://youtu.be/mn0RWLVmNbU

http://www.healthnutnews.com/holistic-dr-found-dead-natural-health-clinic-police-calling-victims-death-suspicious/
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http://www.snopes.com/tag/health-nut-news/

http://www.snopes.com/2015/07/21/five-holistic-doctors-dead/

Is this thread intended to be satirical?
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Good riddance if true.
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I wouldn't want to cast aspersions on this particular individual but is it possible that angry relatives who watched a family member die wasting money on a quack might hold a grudge.
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>>119028

No, it is NOT satire.

http://www.wbko.com/content/news/Businesses-react-to-Bowling-Green-death-investigation--415396593.html
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>>119049
>Bowling Green

The home of The Massacre?

>Vickey Grimsley is the owner of Pandora's Boxx, which sits right across the street from the Natural Health Center. She says if it turns out foul play is the cause of the death, it won't be the first time something alarming has happened in the area between Broadway and 10th Street.
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Well in certain African countries Witch doctors have to flee into the jungle or be murdered when their patient/victim dies

exact same fucking principle
exact amount same of medical knowledge

holistic medicine is no better then healing crystals and those magnetic bracelets
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>>119038
I never bought the holistic shit. But if people are getting silenced over it then why?
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>>119064
>I never bought the holistic shit.

But you'll buy the idea someone is out to silence them.
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>>119064
You just had to tip your tinfoil hat with the rest of your sentence, didn't you? Why would pharmaceutical companies have any need to kill crystal-hawking, water-peddling kooks?
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>>119068
Because every time a cancer patient chooses hemp oil and colloidal silver to treat their tumors, the pharmaceutical industry sees it as a lost customer who isn't paying for the usual drugs and radioactive chemo treatments in a hospital.

It's kind of the same as how the RIAA and MPAA treat people who pirate media as lost customers in their financial statements.
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>>119069
But pirated music actually works.
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>>119070
Not according to the RIAA and MPAA it doesn't.
>You wouldn't download a car
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They are not being murdered, they are being taken underground to avoid ww3
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>>119064
>Quack assures patient that he can cure their cancer
>Family gets upset at patient getting taken advantage of when they should be getting actual help
>Revenge
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>>119064

Actually the reason most national health systems cover holistic treatments like homeopathy is because they're basically free, so it's a swath of the population who are either doing well with placebos or, if the national system only covers a certain percentage of the drug cost, are willing to even pay extra into the national health system as a "stupid tax."

Those big pharma companies are often producers or co-subsidiaries to alternative-drug companies for the same reason -- dirt-cheap placebos that you can sell at even higher prices.

The medical an social ethics on all that are fuzzy -- placebos are very effective, and people will demand these specific types even if the government banned them, and if the government successfully banned them then it would drastically reduce the number of people regularly using harmless placebos successfully. On the other hand, the placebos, which while marketed with the best of intentions, are done so effectively as snake oil, which is bad medical ethics 101, and in mostly-private systems like the US, the vast majority of profits go solely to the snake-oil salesmen.
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>>119190
>>Revenge
Death is ALWAYS about vengeance: returning to its master. Funny how what horrors we wish upon other, or will one day wish upon them, comes back on us!
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>>119209
>placebos
Do you think the effectiveness could be proportional the the price?

Seriously though, a placebo could be the best treatment for psychosomatic illness.
It's a tough moral question for a doctor to provide a 'treatment' that they know is a trick.
Or at least it it should be.
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>>119219
>effectiveness could be proportional the the price?
To a certain extent it can be, but usually it's just a matter of threshold. Also, if it's a doctor-prescribed placebo, price doesn't play a role. It's just a matter of priming the idea of authority in the patient before they use it.

>It's a tough moral question for a doctor ... Or at least it it should be.
No, they're taught how to prescribe placebos ethically (what to say, etc.) and pharmacies will fill them. It's not a trick, but perfectly accurate, if you say "I have a prescription for something that is effective in a large segment of the population but the exact mechanism is unknown." As long as docs don't use it as a substitute for the best possible proven treatment.
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