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Trump pulls all ACA advertisements to try and hamstring Obamacare

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President Donald Trump has taken a bold step to wreck the Affordable Care Act (ACA), better known as Obamacare.

>According to Politico's Paul Demko, the new administration has pulled all advertisements for Healthcare.gov and has frozen efforts by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to encourage people to sign up for plans through the ACA.

>The pulling of ads includes those that have already been paid for and placed, according to Politico. For the 2015-2016 open enrollment period, HHS spent around $35 million on ads encouraging people to sign up.

>Americans with health insurance through their employer or Medicare or Medicaid can sign up for plans through the ACA's public exchanges through January 31 for a 2017 plan.

>Typically, the run-up to deadlines is accompanied by a significant uptick in sign ups. As Politico reported, this is especially true for young people, who are needed to balance the risk in the individual market pools.

>Trump has maintained the law would "collapse on its own." But according to CBO projections, the number of people enrolled will continue to increase and eventually stabilize, not go into the "death spiral" as Republicans predicted.

>The end of the open enrollment period is crucial because the share of total enrollees that are age 18-34 increases substantially during that time.

>This is important because the pools have been filled with too many older and sicker people in certain states over the past few years, causing many large insurers to lose money on the exchanges.

>In turn, insurers leaving the exchanges and exacerbated cost increases. While there are some states that have mitigated these issues by expanding Medicaid and other provisions, it is crucial for the stability of some states' to get young people to sign up.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/27/trump-pulls-all-aca-advertisements-to-try-and-hamstring-obamacar/21701983/
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>According to a report from The Huffington Post, an HHS official said the pulled ad buy was worth around $5 million.

>The push to sign up young people was important to try to correct course, but it appears the move by Trump's administration could hamstring that effort.

>Thus with fewer young people in the exchanges this year, the problems that GOP lawmakers have predicted would happen might come to pass.

>It is unclear just how much the scaling back as impacted the law so far because the HHS under Trump has also scaled back on any communication about Obamacare.

>The HHS Twitter account has not referenced the ACA deadline — after tweeting about it multiple times a day — since a tweet on January 19, the day before Trump's inauguration.

>It is unclear how many Americans have signed up for care since the department has halted communications and not issued their typically bi-weekly enrollment update since the Trump administration took office. The last update on January 10 pegged enrollments through the ACA's provisions at 11.54 million.

>Former director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Andy Slavitt, whose department of the HHS oversaw the ACA exchanges, tweeted his displeasure with the move, saying it was "misguided actions which purposely hurt ACA consumers."

>Trump has long been opposed to the ACA, calling it a "disaster" and promising to repeal and replace it.

>Republican lawmakers kicked off the repeal of the law by advancing a budget resolution through the House and Senate that directs committees to draft a replacement bill using the budget reconciliation process.

>So far, there has not been a concrete proposal for a replacement from Republican leadership, but a few GOP senators have introduced plans that are significantly different.
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>Trump isn't advertising the thing that he said he's getting rid of.
Next you'll tell me he isn't funding tourism advertisement for Mexico and Iraq.
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>>105979
we, the taxpayers (aka not Trump) already paid for it; the people who need it might as well get some benefit out of it.
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>>105979

>the money is already spent
>ads already created
>ads are already placed in the TV schedule/internet banner system/streaming service ad buffer
>but pull the ads anyway, I need this thing to fail faster so I can justify repealing it with no replacement plan ready for review

I mean it's no surprise that he's against the ACA, it's just that he's clearly rushing to try and tank it as fast as possible when he should be focusing on getting that new plan up and ready for review. Getting the system to tank before the replacement is ready will just hurt his own supporters as well as anyone else who currently relies on Obamacare.
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>>105998
If it's not painfully obvious, he doesn't give two shits for the folks that didn't vote for him.
Or for the working-class that did vote for him and will keep voting republican regardless of what he does to them, because they have to stop the gays and sharia law and communisms from taking over and ruining their community.
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Remember the good old days when you had to file for bankruptcy because you took a ride in an ambulance?
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>>105972

>almost die trying to get a job with health care.
>suddenly obama care happened.
>fuck the dying and get it for whole family
>gov raises prices to get the shit unatractive.
>still keep it because it makes you job independent no matter what.
>first fulltime job in 2 years.
>get fired because "we hate obamacare"
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>>105972
Universal Healthcare is an unworkable system. The HHS is just using trump as an excuse for when they inevitably fail.
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>>105972
As a 24 year old student with impeccable health, I'd like to tell you today that they rejected me, so fuck them.
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>>106047
>>106047
WE GOIN BACK BABBY
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because having large portions of your populace with no healthcare and requiring employers to pay for it is an attractive incentive to international investment.

fucking plebtown usa!
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>>105972
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-backtracks-part-way-on-aca-enrollment-outreach/2017/01/27/442a630e-e4ee-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html

>The Trump administration on Friday partly retracted a directive it had issued less than 24 hours earlier to halt all advertising and other outreach activities aimed at encouraging consumers to buy health plans for 2017 during the final days of enrollment under the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces.

>According to two sources familiar with the reversal, administration officials were startled by a backlash that built swiftly on social media among proponents of the health-care law, which President Trump is seeking to dismantle.

>The officials conferred overnight, the sources said, and by Friday morning had modified the directive. The new version allows the Department of Health and Human Services to continue to contact people eligible for ACA coverage by email, text and automated phone calls and revives use of a HealthCare.gov Twitter account that had been stilled the day before.

>And while the first action would have pulled several million of dollars worth of paid television and digital advertising — regardless of whether the money could be recovered — HHS now says ads will be aired if the government would otherwise lose the money.

The backtracking is so wonderful
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I believe the biggest problem with American healthcare is that it's entangled with employment. It makes sensible reform nearly impossible and people are not willing to accept the disruption that would be necessary to overhaul the whole system, which is kinda understandable. But it must be made clear to everyone that healthcare for $40 a month is not a realistic idea and must always be subsidized by ripping off other people.
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>>106167

Another problem is that there is a massive private industry for health insurance. Beyond the lobbying power of such organizations in all types of reforms, if you want to switch to public-based insurance you would have to argue about the number of people who would lose their jobs as well. This is not something that any politician would take lightly, especially in a weak economy.
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>>106117

Also you can't give informed consent to refuse emergency treatment, nor can doctors/EMTs refuse to give emergency treatment when able, financial status notwithstanding.

And in the old days if the ambulance took you to a hospital not under your insurance plan, tough luck. It's not like the EMTs are going to check your wallet for that shit and reroute themselves by 10 miles when you're having a heart attack.

Soo do you know what the advice I got from my provider when this happened to me in 2006 was (routed to hospital not under my insurance)? Don't answer any billing calls or letters from either city or the hospital -- just ignore them until they give up and eat the cost.

That was America's health system before Obamacare -- if your insurance won't pay the bill, ignore it.
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>>106761
And Trump supporters think this is a great thing to go back to because "Hey, at least I'm not paying for it!" (even though they are via taxes)
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>>106814
The thing that nobody seems to realise is that businesses just end up footing the bill, general motors spends $75 per hour per worker on healthcare, wheras Toyota spends $50
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>>106852

>general motors spends $75 per hour per worker on healthcare, wheras Toyota spends $50

Huh, no wonder American business have a hard time competing internationally with that sort of cost. Suddenly healthcare reform jumped up a few pegs in my list of important issues, a cost reduction here could provided a nice economic boost (or at the very least prevent economic loss).
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>>106932
It's perhaps an unfair comparison to make, considering they almost certainly pay tax and levies differently, and my source for this is from c. 2004

And honestly comparing almost any manufacturing outfit to Toyota is an exercise in futility

The point is that the money has to come from somewhere

The best comparisons that can be made of healthcare systems in different countries is probably the cost per patient and quality of care received
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>>106078
As a 22 year old who has never had any health conditions, I got health care and I didn't have to pay a thing
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>>106959
Try using it. If you live in a big city it is nearly impossible to find a regular doctor. I've been looking for someone to take my insurance for two years now. No one accepts it anymore and I'm fucked with asthma attacks with no inhaler and my heart pressure going thru the roof, trying to self medicate with herbs since I can't get a fucking doctor. It's literally shit.
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>>106999
>>106959

That's Obamacare insurance.
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>>107000
It will interesting to see how Trumpcare works.
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>>107005
It will work like going back to the US's batshit system of using private insurance business model to cover regular and predictable costs.

>>106999
Your insurance is literally shit. Obama care isn't an insurance policy.
If you lose your job, without Obama care, no insurance company will want you unless you pay them more than what your costs are in the first place.
The US is the only country that uses a business-model designed to protect its peoples' livelihoods by providing peace-of-mind in case of unanticipated emergencies to also cover regular, predictable events so that either the private insurance company runs a loss or you lose access to a basic necessity.
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