Why is cycling so white?

it's hard to train when your bike keeps getting stolen

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>>980807
Please don't bring this to /n/. I come to get away from all the race bullshit.

>>980810
You are winner!

>>980810
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>>980812
take it up with >>>/n/brt

>>980810

This.

Also: It's not really about genetics. More about culture/tradition, geography, and economic status.

>>980807
1. Cycling, as sport, is overwhelmingly white because for most of its history it has been a sport popular only Europe. Cycle racing almost disappeared from North America between 1900-1980, and Keirin racing only started in 1948.
2. The tradition of popular transport/recreational bicycling is best established in Europe, North America, and Japan because that's where the industry necessary to produce bicycles has been around since the 1890's.
3. In the United States, cycling of all kinds is a white activity because of economic disparities and cultural habits.

>>980835
Not to mention road quality
Much as we like to bitch about the realities of riding with cagers, at least most of our roads are roll-able and paved.

I mean, the biggest reason soccer is the world's most popular sport is due to how little equipment is needed to actually play.

>>980807
Where I live there are only a small percentage of riders I've seen who are black, but the ones I've seen are serious and tough competition.

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>>980836
>at least most of our roads are roll-able and paved.
I don't think you've travelled much, you can find well paved roads everywhere

if anything the roads I see in third world countries are in better shape than the ones I see here in my first world city

besides if the roads were worse then we'd just be using thicker tires and higher spoke counts, there's no reason why cycling as a sport NEEDS these super lightweight bikes, it's just more fun to watch people go fast and the cost of the bike itself isn't all that high compared to the cost of logistics, salaries, etc

Colombians have some good cyclists because of that altitude training, but cycling as a sport is basically a first world thing.

Cost of entry in a competitive sense, basically. Bikes are cheap. Competition ready bikes aren't.

>>980807

Black have no moneys.
You need the moneys to have a good bike.
Therefore, no black cyclists.

>>980854
most non-white people in the world are not black, amerilard

OP here

Yes, the two black guys I know that cycle are powerful riders

But at the pro level, you think there'd be more diversity at the top, and there isn't

I'm talking elite levels.

It seems like you could be "discovered" and be a good cyclist without training in youth. You just need the legs and the lungs

Williams Sisters dominated tennis, Tiger Woods dominates golf. Both waspy white sports with barriers to entry

Minneapolis bro here
I see Vikings players out riding fairly regularly

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>>980807
I live in a majority black neighborhood. One the things I love about cycling is that it allows me to easily meet other white people with similar interests.

>>980812
>gtfo racers
>hurr /n/ is for commuters only

>>980810
What does bikes getting stolen have to do with a country's rail system?

>>980905
>What does bikes getting stolen have to do with a country's rail system?

Well typically the crime rate skyrockets near any rail line.

NEVER lock up your bike near a station.

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Stigma.

People think roadies look like fags for some reason.

Also a lot of white people that seem to be really good at disregarding other people's opinion

>>980906
>lock bike up overnight at metro station
>pick it up next morning, ride all the way home
>lift bike up to take inside
>front wheel comes clean off

Those fucks tried to steal my quick release and I could have died going 50+ km down some hills. I always check my wheels now before I ride. Was a wake up call.

>>980907
Do you live Ina rural shithole? Every successful middle aged man in my suburb is a Lycra fag on a 5000 dollar bike. Half of them have beer bellies lel

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I think the reason you don't see as many negroids racing professionally is because of the cost of entry. They can purchase a basketball or football easily from a sporting goods store or department store. If they get on to their highschool and/or college team they get exposure as well as most equipment for free.

Now imagine being poor and having the whole world against you trying to get into cycling. Maybe they can afford a BSO from a department store but there's no chance they will ever be able to get to an elite level of skill and fitness on that.

>>980888
Do you think that golf or tennis equipment cost is comparable to cycling?

>>980910
Weird. I'm used to seeing the lycra bros being DYEL and the mountain bros having the potbellies.

Black or white if your neighborhood is a shithole full of traffic and potholes, you won't want to ride a bike.

>>980912

It's not even necessarily about money. A brother on an expensive bicycle draws negative police attention, even if he's in full team kit matched to bike livery. There was a dude that used to hang around /n/ that had some stories along those lines.

I've gotta say, if going for a ride on my carbon had a high chance to get me hassled by the cops and potentially shot, I would find other ways to spend my time.

>>980908
>I always check my wheels now before I ride

The fact you didn't before concerns me more than it should. Its almost hard to not compulsively look over my bike because of how much it gets abused. I used to just check quick releases and stem bolts but now I check everything. having a crank snap on a fixie while sprinting downhill is on of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced on a road bike. It could have been prevented by looking over my bike before I went out,(beware of chinese bike shaped objects) instead I got thrown otb and smacked the ground going a little faster than 25mph and was only wearing a t-shirt and shorts(arm helmets save lives)


Tl;dr cheap cranks fucking suck and always look over your bike before riding

>>980916
I'm half black and the only place I've ever been profiled was on vacation in the states. Your country is a racialist hell hole

>>980918
>fixie
That's where you went wrong namefriend

>>980918
tl;dr don't ride a fixie

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>>980910
I'm sitting less than 500ft away from a neighborhood full of multi million dollar houses you fucking retard. You really jumped to conclusions after seeing a truck lit up against a 30ft section of silhouetted hillside

>>980922
>don't ride a cheap fixie

Ftfy

I hear cycling is very popular in Colombia
there are a few high profile latin american cyclics, besides Quintana and Amador

>>980919

Sure is.
Not much I can do about it aside from contributing to the problem as little as possible.

>>980918
>(arm helmets save lives)

They're called pauldrons.

>>980910

Lel while you can.

On the day you turn 30, remember this post and look down. Then be ashamed that you turned out to be the tubby sack of shit that you always hated, and you won't even have a $5000 bike to go ride as consolation.

>>980928
Certified mad™
>>980923
Certified mad™

>>980923
>I don't live in a rural shithole
>posts rural shithole to prove his point
The rural shithole of namefags

>>980908
holy fuck. for real? morons lol. also, glad you're alive anon. i need /n/iggers

>>980932
>mad™

I'm currently chillin' at 10% , so...

lel

As an age grouper, I'm just telling you how it is.
Almost nobody stays in decent shape after entering the American workforce.

>>980926
PAULDRONS

>>980919
>Your country is a racialist hell hole
Yes it is. I hate it.

>>980807

Who fucking cares? It's like asking "why crime is so black?" but oh no that would be racist right? If nigs want to join no one is stopping them. Now fuck off and let the whites enjoy their peaceful sport you SJW cuck.

>>980933
Do you know what rural means? Post a picture of your town faggot

>>980912
>whole world against you
Lmao what.
>>980888
>Williams Sisters dominated tennis
They are men.
>Tiger Woods
He is Chinese

>>980919
don't come back. we're full

>>980947
My town is about the same. The only difference is that I can admit I live in a rural area. Just because there are expensive houses doesn't mean it isn't rural.

>>980913
Tennis probably not, but can't you spend hundreds of dollars on a single club?

Then there's golf course hire, caddies, all sorts of things.

>>980950
>>980945
>being a /pol/ outside of containment zones

bad manners to be honest

>>980981
oh no! their opinion differs from mine!

>>980840
>if anything the roads I see in third world countries are in better shape than the ones I see here in my first world city
Wouldn't that be because they were paved more recently (or re-paved, since the original paving was so shit it dissolved completely)?

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>>980981

You need infrastructure, both public and cycling specific, and money to be competitive. Most importantly the UCI is very European.

For example, there's probably about 10 velodromes in all of Africa, two thirds of which are in South Africa.

I would expect to see more cyclists from Latin America, in the future particularly in the mountain bike disciplines where group riding and teamwork aren't so important..

Also, the former french colonies are also a place where I'd guess good riders would eventually come from.

Not covered on whether it's white hispanics getting into racing, as that's

You guys remember that one non UCI mexican single speed road racing series? I imagine those guys are locally sponsored?

>>980950
Yes, and thats why 99% of whites in europe and usa watch soccer and footbal. Debunked your own theory you inbred cuck. Where's your superior iq now? Now go and parrot a meme or post a picture because you lack the ability to comprehend that you just got rekt.

>>980950
typical /pol/tard ignoring the fact that endurance sports are the black mans natural habitat. ever seen a marathon?

>>980993
No, it's more like road paving is not some advanced witchcraft that only space-faring nations can do

>>980914
Weird. Where I'm from the lycra bros are ripped due to being just generally vain and fitness obsessed.

Agreed about the MTB having potbellies.

>>980960
I'll unfortunately be going back due to the family I got on the east coast. It's the white side of my family if that quells your autism a bit

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>>980947
>mfw a flyover tries to speak to me

>>981057
Why do people live in downtown brooklyn when it's not really any cheanper than nice neighborhoods? It's nothing but huge ass sneaker stores full of blacks, and weird discount stores selling electric fans for $2 full of just generally sketchy people, when you could live in cobble hill or williamsburg for the same money.

Cycling even as a hobby is pretty expensive. A serviceable (aluminum bike, at best a 105/Ultegra mix) bike with all the needed accessories (good helmet, clip pedals + shoes) of even mediocre quality is at least $1,000. Then you factor in maintenance costs and other miscellaneous expenditures- and if you get into racing, you have to allocate money for travel, food, and hotel expenses since even in cyclist-friendly places, race scheduling is fairly sporadic. To gain a competitive advantage you'd need good components of everything, and on top of constant training you'd want a carbon fiber bike with high-end components, which would run at least $3,000+ (again, that is if you want to take racing and cycling seriously and depart from subpar and heavy components)

>>981062
I live in the UES, that's just where my office is

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>>980926

Africans are poor, thats why they don't compete in Bikeraces

It's probably white because it's white.
non-whites don't have an established biking culture.

Money is probably also a reason.

>>981038
Mostly a Eastern African thing, especially from a specific small part of East-Africa. (Kenya)

Western-Africans don't do as well with marathons.

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Cycling is based on the ability to focus.
Certain activities don't have an expensive entry barrier but require a deeply rooted ability to focus one's mind on a task, for long periods of time. The very best on those activities are almost exclusively white males. Writing, painting, sculpting, cycling, competitive sailing, even cooking.

It's not about road quality, entry barriers or something like that. It's simply the mindset, being able to focus on a goal for long periods of time, investing time and effort to reach it. Some other sports focus more on instant gratification, like football and basketball. You didn't score? Don't worry, you can try again in 30 seconds.
There's also the typically european aspect of the sport, that being the rider's will to improve himself and reach ever-increasing heights.

You play football, baseball or basketball. You don't play cycling.

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It's absolutely a money thing. To your average third-worlder, dropping $2K on an entry-level racing bike is insane. Cheap practical bikes are more their speed.

In the US, it's still a money thing, because to a lower-income family, $2K on an entry-level racing bike is prohibitive, and nonwhites are more likely to have lower incomes.

But when it comes to bicycles as a means of transportation and hauling shit around, they fucking love them. If you go to Uganda or wherever, you'll see tons of bikes being ridden or used to haul insane loads of shit that we'd use a bigass truck for. They'll burn bike thieves to death in some parts of Africa.

>>981036
>cuck
>go back to /b/, they're missing their faggot.

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>>981421
faggot

>>981429
>To your average third-worlder, dropping $2K on an entry-level racing bike is insane.
I'm pretty sure that would be insane by first world standards too.

>>980926
Whatever I just know putting my arms over my head when I'm about to slam has prevented a lot of concussions falling without a helmet

>>981448
Nah it's not judging by what mtbs some cagers put on their cars here.

>>980919
See, I don't think that's fair to say at all. (At least not from that) Obviously, if you're kitted out and shit, or you're in the right area, I understand, but if I were a cop sitting in Camden and saw someone dressed like they live in the city ride by on a nice ass bike, do you honestly think that's racist to assume that that bike may be stolen?
I know it's not nice to hear, but it certainly follows logically.

It's for the same reason, and in the same city, cops notice me and read my plates when I come out of Camden as a young white person.
It's not racist to assume that all white people in Camden may be there to buy drugs, when you have a problem with white kids, who aren't seen anywhere else in the city, coming in and out to buy drugs.

Stereotypes do not come out of the blue.

>>981448
If youre poor or a fucking casual maybe. 2k is a fucking pittance

>>981591
>>981602
Key words being 'entry-level' you monumental failures. Enjoy your $2k Claris boat anchors.

>>981614
So entry level is a 12 kg Deore bike with no good handlebars and 2+ kg wheelset for you?

>>981594
The fuck are you going on about? I wasn't in some shithole town with my pants sagging down. I was profiled because I had a backpack and an Afro. That's utter bullshit and you know it. The cop literally stopped me because he wanted to chance upon a bit of weed in my pocket that I didn't have. It all boils down to mass incarceration at the end of day

>>981643
>the fuck are you going on about
I imagine the guy you're responding to is one of those people who, in a certain way, can understand on a theoretical level that racism is wrong, but also feels that the world is inherently just and that if a bad thing happened to a black person they must have been "asking for it" in some way.

It all boils down to not being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

>>981643
Maybe you should read again. Here's what I said that pertain to this:
>Obviously, if you're kitted out and shit, or you're in the right area, I understand
>you're in the right area, I understand
So, if you really were in an area where this isn't the case, yes, fuck that cop. Same as if a cop started tailing me to read my plates around honkey-town, I'd be peeved, they can fuck with someone else. But last time this happened, I was driving through former murder capital of the country, ghetto shit hole, as a white person at three in the morning. I completely understood why I was being looked at. (Was coming back from Philly and the bridge can dump you there if you wish, and I wanted to come back through Gloucester) I fit all the hallmarks of a small-town kid looking to score heroin. It's a huge problem right now here.
I was being a pussy and didn't want to take the high way back, so I went through there. Otherwise, that area isn't situated to where you'd have any real reason to be there unless you're buying drugs.

>>981645
>but also feels that the world is inherently just and that if a bad thing happened to a black person they must have been "asking for it" in some way.
Certainly not, but thank you for putting my words in my mouth.

>>981653
>Certainly not, but thank you for putting my words in my mouth.
How else should I interpret your wild conjecture that anon was riding around Camden, NJ on a Cervelo dressed in FUBU and trying to get his Yeezys to not slide off the LOOK pedals?

What possible reason would a foreigner have for hanging out in Camden, NJ, let alone riding an expensive bike through there dressed like a ghetto thug?

Everything you said was just a stereotypical attempt of a white guy who has never personally experienced racism directed at him, trying to come up with a justification for why anon SHOULD have been stopped by the cop and why anon, a visitor to this country with the same skin color as some Americans, is personally responsible for the actions of all American blacks.

>>981658
>How else should I interpret your wild conjecture that anon was riding around Camden, NJ on a Cervelo
Considering our local newspaper has dozens of cases of theft all by Camden residents, are you really going to tell me that a nice bike in Camden isn't going to be suspicious? Do you lack common sense, or just look past it?
I never said that was anon, again, go back and read my post, I even broke it down for you in my last reply.

READ THIS PART:
If you're kitted out and a cop stops you, fuck them. If you're not in the ghetto and a cop stops you, fuck them. If you ARE in the ghetto, on an average bike for the area, and a cop stops you, fuck them.

>What possible reason would a foreigner have for hanging out in Camden, NJ, let alone riding an expensive bike through there dressed like a ghetto thug?
But you do see that that's perfectly logical an assumption? Locals in Camden ride chopper style bikes or MTBs that haven't ever seen a spoke wrench or an air pump.
Again, you really do lack reading comprehension. Never did I imply that this was anon.
Why I replied to him, is because there are thing that, OUT OF CONTEXT, appear racist, when they really aren't.
A nice bike isn't out of place in the ghetto because not blacks can't afford anything nice, but because we have a huge crime problem in Camden, and there's a very slim chance the next Lance is starting out there on a Bianchi. It's much more likely it was lifted off a porch from Collingswood, and is going to be chopped or flipped sometime soon.

>Everything you said was just a stereotypical attempt of a white guy who has never personally experienced racism directed at him, trying to come up with a justification for why anon SHOULD have been stopped by the cop and why anon, a visitor to this country with the same skin color as some Americans, is personally responsible for the actions of all American blacks.
Sure do like not addressing a single thing I say, huh?

>>981670
>Sure do like not addressing a single thing I say, huh?
Take a deep breath and try to put yourself in someone's shoes other than you. It doesn't have to be me, the guy jumping into this conversation. It doesn't have to be black anon from some other country. Just some objective third party.

You've now posted three consecutive, highly detailed rants about Camden, NJ, in response to a foreigner saying he was racially profiled somewhere in the United States, and someone calling you out on your lame attempt at victim blaming.

What do you think a reasonable person should say to you now? Start debating crime stats on Camden, NJ? Would that be "addressing" what you said?

>>981677
>You've now posted three consecutive, highly detailed rants about Camden, NJ, in response to a foreigner saying he was racially profiled somewhere in the United States, and someone calling you out on your lame attempt at victim blaming.
Alright, hear me out, perhaps I'm wrong. In other countries, I've been told that they don't have a 'race' issue so much as a class issue. There are people out there who assume out race problem is just that, a race problem, when it is also tied into class and crime here. It's just masked.
If you're not from the area, you might no know you're riding through an area that is a high drug/problem area. You may think 'Oh, well, how very racist of you' when in fact, it's due more to crime than race. (Now, you'd have to be retarded not to know, but lets say you were from another country, and were black, riding though Camden on a nice bright road bike. You don't have to be in doorags like anon above said. If you're not kitted out, you're going to look suspicious and it's not 'just because you're black')

>What do you think a reasonable person should say to you now? Start debating crime stats on Camden, NJ? Would that be "addressing" what you said?
He could go back and see me literally say three times that I never that that was anon's case. That's my main concern.

>>981682
In your scenario, it would be reasonable to expect a cop to stop the black anon.

The problem is that your scenario relies on multiple unfounded and in most cases indefensible assumptions, such as that a foreigner would have any reason to be in what's probably in the top 5 worst ghettos in the country, riding an expensive bike, while dressed like a gang banger, having an interaction with a cop, and, on top of all that, after the fact, being too stupid or culturally obtuse to put together the pieces of the puzzle and having to come to 4chan to have it all explained to him.

The reason I am suggesting that you are one of those people who thinks that the world is inherently just and that "racist seeming" events are actually just funny coincidences within a larger pattern of fairness and equality is that anon told a story that anyone with brown skin would be familiar with, having experienced similar things throughout their lives. But as a white American who understands that America is really a fair place where the deserving get treated great and the undeserving get their just desserts, your first instinct was to try to assemble this ridiculous, implausible, strangely specific scenario that would explain away his delusions of persecution and show him that everything is just fine and it was just a delightful cultural misunderstanding.

>>981692
>In your scenario, it would be reasonable to expect a cop to stop the black anon.
Yes, under the condition that he was in an area where it would look out of place.

>The problem is that your scenario relies on multiple unfounded and in most cases indefensible assumptions, such as that a foreigner would have any reason to be in what's probably in the top 5 worst ghettos in the country, riding an expensive bike, while dressed like a gang banger, having an interaction with a cop, and, on top of all that, after the fact, being too stupid or culturally obtuse to put together the pieces of the puzzle and having to come to 4chan to have it all explained to him.
Hello, are you actually retarded, or can you not read. Nowhere did I say that this was anon's case.
I'm simply saying that you cannot just look at the surface of things, and since he said that he thought of my country as very racist, I brought up a scenario which would appear racist at first glance, but really isn't about 'race' at all.
Not sure how many more times I can repeat this to you.

>"racist seeming" events are actually just funny coincidences within a larger pattern of fairness and equality
Where is that being said? First of all, key word here is SOME. Yes, some racist seeming events aren't primarily about race.
If you look like a Camden resident and have a bike like that, it's nearly never going to be your's and it warrants a quick check up. If I had my bike stolen and it was about to be flipped in Camden, I would hope some cop wouldn't be too scared to make sure it wasn't actually mine.

>ridiculous, implausible, strangely specific scenario
Yes, I forgot that roadie culture was big in Camden.
Yes, I forgot that white people hang out there all the time and never buy drugs.

Please, try and think before you respond this time. I'll repeate: NEVER DID I SAY THIS WAS ANONS CASE
Enough times now?

>>981705
Just so you know, I think you're right

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just in case anyone ITT didn't already know, this was the fastest man alive in his day.


this includes endurance races the type of which are illegal now because the participants would pass out from sleep deprivation. so >>981421 go put a quarter in your ass because you played yourself.

Black people only ride stolen bikes
The bikes that get stolen are the bikes that get left outside unattended
The bikes that get left outside unattended are BSOs
It's hard to race on a BSO
People dislike doing things that are hard
People don't do things that they dislike doing

>>981705
>Nowhere did I say that this was anon's case.
> I brought up a scenario which would appear racist at first glance, but really isn't about 'race' at all
Ok, so I guess your point was that "sometimes blacks get stopped for good reasons, therefore there must have been a good reason". See: >>981645, this is what is called "victim blaming"
>If you look like a Camden resident
Can you at least explain to me by what bizarro logic you keep assuming that a foreign tourist could have been hanging out in gang banger territory in the shittiest ghettoes in the country? I know you said you never said he went to Camden, so, fine. A ghetto like Camden, since you seem to think this is a really important point.
>If I had my bike stolen and it was about to be flipped in Camden, I would hope some cop wouldn't be too scared to make sure it wasn't actually mine.
Did a black foreign tourist steal your bike or something?
>Yes, I forgot that roadie culture was big in Camden.
Was it a black roadie tourist?
>Yes, I forgot that white people hang out there all the time and never buy drugs.
You rode your Cervelo into Camden and it got stolen, didn't you
>Enough times now?
Yes, I think mentioning Camden, NJ once was enough, but I'm sure you'll still find a way to work it into every post until one of us gets tired.

>>981714
It's not victim blaming. If something looks out of place, a cop has to check. It's his job.

Do you think it's wrong for a cop to run my plates as a white person coming out of a high drug sale area, of which I don't fit the racial population?
Because I do not.
It's entirely right, and having lost classmates to heroin, I thank God that they do.
It makes perfect logical sense.

The point I am trying to make, unless you're from the area, you don't know which areas are suspicious to be in, and unless you're quite obviously a kitted up dude, or in a touring bike's case, loaded down with shit, a cop doesn't know if you don't know this.

Are you one of these silly people who think you need to be tying off during a trackstand in order to be reasonably suspicious?

>>981710
The exception that proves the rule

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>>981439
Great argument there, buddy.
>>981710
>this was the fastest man alive in his day
We're debating why is cycling primarily a white sport. Nobody implied there aren't good non-white cyclists. Please, do try to raise a valid point. You know my argument to be entirely valid, yet you choose name-calling and generally mongolic typing.

Why are there so few black people in cycling? Just answer that question.

>>981710
>every year in recorded history, the fastest cyclist alive has been a white man
>except that one time, decades ago
>this obviously means that black men are better at cycling
Are you literally retarded?

>>981950
We're not having a 'who is better' argument, we're asking why they aren't present.

For instance, do you think it could be a masculinity thing? America at large has a problem with considering biking 'faggy', I can only imagine it's worse in such a hyper masculine culture as the 'hip hop' culture. If kids are getting called 'too white' for other shit, I don't see cycling being excluded.

>>981949
>Why are there so few black people in cycling?
Da White Man holds them down!

>>980807
because it requires finesse and talent.
in other sports where african countries excels they rely on strength or endurance only, all of which can be modified with drugs.

>>982281
>doping is not a thing in cycling.

>>982281
everybody that comes in the top ten or at least the top five of the tour dopes, my man

>>982353
froome doesn't dope he's a good boy

>>982308
Way to miss his point jackass. He cited finesse and talent as the differentiating factors, things not required in other sports where they (also) are doped to the gills.

>>980807
This thread is titled like a Buzzfeed article... "So...why ARE the Oscars so white?"

#OscarsSoWhite
#CyclingSoWhite

Fuck off cunt

>>982359
rekt

>>982458
Wait, are you saying cycling isn't white?

>>981911
>It's not victim blaming
>It's entirely right, and having lost classmates to heroin, I thank God that they do.
You are basically saying anon is a credible suspect for carrying heroin because he is black

If it's not "victim blaming" it's certainly racist

>>982962
>You are basically saying anon is a credible suspect for carrying heroin because he is black
What, can you even read? I'm say I, a WHITE person, is a credible suspect for carrying herion, coming out of a high crime area where no whites live, but whites come to buy drugs.

>If it's not "victim blaming" it's certainly racist
It's...it's not fucking racist. Are you retarded, honestly? If white kids keep driving out of Camden with drugs on their person, many still in high school, and I drive my white as snow ass outta Camden past midnight, yeah, I looks suspicious as fuck.

Again, I'll ask, at what point does someone become reasonably suspicious to you?

>>982968
You can keep retroactively making up reasons why the cop totally should have stopped anon, and accusing people of being retards for not seeing the "truth" and being "soft on crime", despite having no knowledge of the situation other than that anon was black, a tourist, and on a bike

I can keep asking you why you keep bringing up junkies, Camden NJ, your dirtbag frinds who OD'd on heroin, in relation to a story about a tourist riding a bike while black

We can go on and on like this but neither of us is going to change the other person's mind because ultimately, you believe in a post-racial world because in your personal experience, as a white guy, people don't get stopped unless they were asking for it. I, as a not white guy, realize this is not at all the case, because even though I've never even seen heroin, had to infer what "tying one off" meant, never go to shitty neighborhoods, dress like a boring accountant, I have still been unfairly profiled by law enforcement at times, and sure there may have been some actual drug kingpin running around the area who looked and dressed exactly like me, but, realistically, no, that isn't the case at all

Unlike you, I do not have to make up ridiculous, implausible scenarios to explain why anon might have gotten stopped, because I know he could have literally been riding on a designated bike path, in full kit, and been "suspicious"

See also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/15/i-was-just-reading-a-book-canadian-cops-called-on-black-man-reading-c-s-lewis-in-his-car/

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>>982979
>You can keep retroactively making up reasons why the cop totally should have stopped anon
And you can keep pretending that I was ever talking about anon.

>you believe in a post-racial world because in your personal experience, as a white guy, people don't get stopped unless they were asking for it.
Friend, if you stopped wasting all your time coming up with words to put in my mouth, you might have the time to actually read what I say sometime.
I'll wait.

>Unlike you, I do not have to make up ridiculous, implausible scenarios to explain why anon might have gotten stopped
Right, you make up ridiculous, implausible scenarios in which I'm talking about anon, which I never was and am not now.

It's just pure coincidence that there are not many in the world tour pro peloton, sure. But in amature levels, domestic and ct squads there are a decent number of them. Why we don't see many in the pro peloton is because they grow up around a different influence/culture.

Don't let alt rights convince you that genetics/intelligence plays a role.

>>981421
/thread

>>981421
then why do africans dominate long distance running?

>>986956
Because they grow up in a poor country (and in altitude) and most of the top athlete used to run long distance since childhood. They said it themselves.

>>986958
so if they grew up riding bikes they would be good at that too

>>980807
>Why is cycling so white?

Because White people engineer devices to conquer the world?

>>986962
Yes
Watch the documentary Rising from Ashes

>>981643
>complaining about profiling when looking like a typical nigger.
Kys, tie a rope to your neck and hang from a tree

>>981086
I'm black and live and the UES and bike. Its more about perception, some of the "thugs" don't want to be seen doing something white people do.

>>981713
Not all blacks steal bikes.

>>989259
Some walk? Stolen cars?

>>981949
As a black person I can answer this.
1) Perception - as i mentioned before people of color perceive biking as a wimpy "white man" sport.
2) Cost- some people are willing to spend 40k on a car but 2k on a bike to them is unjustifiable.
3) Money- there is more money in other sports (basketball,football etc)

>>982281
>requires finesse and talent.
What a load of bull all you need a decent bike and some training. Cycling isn't
as hard as you make it.

>>989260
As I said not all blacks are scum bag. We just happen to have a few bad apple who spoil it for the bunch.

Like most other things, it's a cost thing.

No black hockey players, expensive sport.
Lots of black basket ball players, all you need is a ball.

Bikes are racist

>>982281
lol such bs, as if pedalling requires more 'finesse', than tennis or golf..

>>989602
And where are all the black golfers an tenn... oh, I see what you did there. Sneaky bugger. -.-

>>980888
Cycling isn't comparable to golf or tennis. It's closer to motorsport. Most people who make it have parents willing to invest in karting/dirtbike etc at a grassroots level when they were young. It's partially money but also willingness to invest that money in your children. The fact black families often tend to have more children might be a factor, or just that they're less willing to spend money on them, or that they just don't have the money (though poor families can and do invest a significant amount in their children's sporting interests)

>>981421
Cycling mountains astounds me honestly. I'm such an unfit fuck that small hills slow me to a crawl.

I need to push harder though, I know that's a factor

>>981643
Profiling isn't a bad thing. If your kind keep being criminals people will keep expecting you to be. It's circular and trying to blame one side over the other is pointless and not breaking that loop.

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>>980807
why does this thread even fucking exist? seriously OP if you're going to post SJW bullshit go to reddit and hang yourself