ITT: Abandoned Transportation

>>973597
What can I say, there aren't any abandoned transportation stuff here besides a closed used car dealership. The old tracks were all pulled up.

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>>975185
>What can I say, there aren't any abandoned transportation stuff here besides a closed used car dealership. The old tracks were all pulled up.
Are you in the USA by any chance?

Some years ago (I think it was between 2000 and 2005 or so?) the US changed a law that said that railroad owners could get tax credit for "upgrading rail lines".
That doesn't sound so bad, but it was really a loophole law.

China was in a massive building boom and was driving up the prices for scrap steel worldwide. The change in the US law meant that railroad owners could tear up unused tracks and sell the metal to China as scrap and not pay full/normal taxes on the income.

Not surprisingly,,,,, the law didn't say that they had to build NEW lines. But 'tearing up the old line' is apparently the first step in "upgrading a line", so it qualified.
Lots of older lightly-used US rail lines got torn up and are now gone. The right-of-ways are still there, but all the rails are gone.

Just a few years later (-oddly enough?-) US railroad companies began to have problems with...... where to park idle rail cars.
This story is dated 2009
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123535033769344811

There's a road by our lake called lake road(how surprising) but you can find the old abandoned lake road like 300 feet out by the beach that used to exist 60 years ago due to erosion and shit.

there's a really old road bridge on one of our beaches, I'll have to take a picture of it and report back later

>>973597
That's some pretty old, and light, rail if it has no plates in it.

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not quite abandoned. rail lines were removed and replaced with a bike path.

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>>975404
>rail lines were removed and replaced with a bike path.

Story of literally hundreds of former/unused railway lines all over Germany. Also a very often used argument to avoid/block initiatives to modernize lines and put them back in service (bike paths are useful and "cheap", putting a line back into service isn't and nobody is gonna use it anyway etc.).


Any anons here that do hike along dismantled or unused former railway lines?

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>>975483

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>>975486

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>>975483
Did that once, on a line with a frightening past.

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A site that may interest some:
http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/

Sadly there's not a lot near me, beyond an old track to a coal yard that's been converted into a footpath.

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disused CP rail branch into downtown Toronto through the Don valley.

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Worth Way which I have walked the length of, the remaining buildings of Rowfant Station are pretty cool.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worth_Way

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Cincinnati Underground

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>>975483
Is this in southern Lower Saxony by any chance?

>>975534
>on a line with a frightening past.
Are you being coy to farm (You)s before you tell the story or what?

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>>975534
Found the source. This line truly has a sad past.

>>976954
All three images are showing the remnants of the "Ahrtalbahn" Remagen - Kreuzberg - Adenau - Ahrdorf - Lissendorf with additional branches to Jünkerath and Gerolstein in northern Rhineland-Palatinate.
This line was once a fully built out two track mainline. While the lower part Remagen - Bad Neuenahr - Kreuzberg - Ahrbrück is still in service with commuter trains running in 30min intervalls, everything else behind Ahrbrück has been torn. Also the still active part Ahrbrück - Waldporzheim lost its second track and the Ludendorff Bridge crossing the rhine river hasn't been restored after WW2.
Some parts have been built-over with new roads or bike paths in the last decade.

The pictures were taken between Ahrbrück and Hönningen.
Pic related for graphical illustration of the current situation. Keep in mind that I only considered coloring the Ahrtal Line crossing the mid Eifel mountains.

>>976990
*Dropped something:
- red means scrapped
- green means still in service

>>976990
I see, thanks for the information.
My grandma lives in a town near Göttingen were there is also a scrapped-trainline-turned-bicycle-path, and the surroundings look rather similar to your pictures.
The local train station is now served every two hours in every direction by single-waggon diesel trains.

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Not my picture but I've seen them in person these logging locomotives were left in the middle of nowhere in the forests of Maine. They're only reachable by canoe now.

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>>975174

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Climbed this two days ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulinskill_Viaduct

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Old City Hall Station. You can see it if you ride the 6 while it turns around.

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91st Street Station. Look out the window on the 1 between 86th and 96th street stations.

>>980568
This is beautiful. Where is it and why was it abandoned?

>>980572
It's under NYC City Hall. It was replaced with a newer stations when train lengths were extended. The tight curve left big gaps between the platform and the train.

It was never used much anyway. They occasionally have tours in there but it's also pretty easy to sneak into.

>>980573
>but it's also pretty easy to sneak into.
Ooh, i wanna do that.

>>980569
91 is between 86 & 96? I'd never have guessed.

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I've got about 50 miles of this right down the road from me...

>>973597
I wish I had photos to share, but I once lived in Lowell, MA. Riding the Commuter Rail out there from Boston was always amazing because there's about 12 sets of tracks running into the station and all but 2 are abandoned. You can tell how long they've been disused by the different foliage growing between the tracks, too.

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Lower Queen station in Toronto is the real centerpiece of abandoned stuff on the TTC. Way back before we were even talking about a Subway on Yonge Street the idea was for Queen Street to be the main artery for Streetcar routes into the downtown core. So the idea was to run the streetcars underground starting just outside of the downtown core (think of the Streetcar "subway" in Boston). Amazingly this plan lasted right up to the design and construction of the Yonge Subway in 1954. Obviously however the Streetcars never made it underground along Queen even though a station for them had been constructed under Queen Subway station.

Lower Queen may have found use however if the Bloor-Danfoth Subway was built as originally planed from Woodbine to Keele via Queen Street, however this didn't happen either. Today Lower Queen is home to nothing but some ventilation, a pedestrian path to cross under he Subway platforms and an elevator shaft.

Also of note is Osgoode Station (Queens opposite to the West) had its utilities relocated when the University extension was constructed in the late 60's for a potential Lower Osgoode Station. This shows that even into the mid 1960's the city believed that there would be a Subway under Queen Street at some point. Jump to today and the plan for the DLR Subway line has it running under Queen street with a stop at Queen Station and Osgoode Station. Since Lower Queen can no longer support a Subway the DRL will have to dig below it (guess will call that station Lowest Queen), however I think will be thanking the gods that we won't have to do utility relocation under Osgoode Station since that was done in the 60's.

>>980639
you need something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77dY8i5NqGM

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It's nice up on the old Reading Viaduct.
It's exactly like the High Line in NY, except no one maintains it, so it isn't the lamest place on Earth.
(There's been talks for years about making it a park up there, but I really hope it never happens. Call me a hipster.)

You get quite a view of the city, and there's always someone interesting up there. Drugs and crime never get too bad, since the surrounding apartment tenants walk their dogs up there all the time.
They come and go with weather/vandalism, but people hang swings from the those metal posts.

Don't have a ton of pictures, but if you skip to around 0:50 in this vid, you can get a feeling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK6QwjLfBIM

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>>981399
Oh, cool. You wouldn't believe, but in Helsinki we have like 4 ghost stations, or chambers excavated to bedrock in case when something else has been built. Not really stations, just empty space, but that's what they have been made for.

All but one are related to the long planned but never proceeded north-south "second metro line". This is probably the most complete station in Kamppi, excavated under the current metro station.

What's more, a 5th ghost station is under construction in Pasila. This is a high number for a such a small system I'd say.

>>978052
What a shame. Poor things should be at least cosmetically restored.

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There's an abandoned station under the Waldorf Hotel in NY with a train car still parked there.

>>988083
very cool
>According to Grand Central: How a Train Station Transformed America, FDR, who most famously used the secret entrance, did so "in part to hide his disability from the public." Everything was made so large that, according to the MTA's Dan Brucker, it could fit FDR's armor-plated Pierce Arrow car, which would drive off the train, onto the platform, and straight into the elevator.

>>988081
Can you imagine that?
>canoe somewhere
>find place for a camp
>just a couple almost-showroom quality trains sitting in the middle of fuck nowhere.

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Just a google maps pic since there's nothing really to see from the ground.

This is the outline of Birch Aerodrome, a WW2 military airfield that has been returned to agricultural land. The runways are still there and used as access roads for tractors now. Where the hangers were has been replaced by barns for said tractors.

There's loads of these all over East Anglia UK since it was the most convenient place for launching fighters and bombers to the continent. Most of them aren't marked on maps but you can spot their shape pretty easily.

>>981399
>lower queen
>not bay lower

>>988899
Lower Bay is anything but "Abandoned". That station is still used nightly by TTC maintenance staff and for operator training. It's closed to Passenger service, but still remains pretty active.

http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/

>>984318
Where in Japan is this?

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The Scotswood Railway Bridge railway bridge was used for goods trains to cross the Tyne towered the power station in Newburn.

Been disused since 1990, think they removed the tracks fairly recently and it's still up because of the water and gas mains

>>975328
I've never heard of anything about tax credits for Railroad's upgrading their infastructure, it must've not been talked about much. Yeah the economy is resulting in a lot of new cars sitting in storage, if some abandonments of short branches wouldn't have happened, storage space wouldn't be such an issue.

>>975483
I'm not sure how regulations are regarding abandonment but in the US it's typically better for an abandoned line to be turned into a trail rather than having in revert to property owners, it makes it more possible for rail service to eventually return, not to mention the trails help maintain the roadbed, bridges, and tunnels along that route.

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Miskolc-Lillafüred, Hungary. A former bridge on a narrow gauge railway line's former sideline. The main line is still in use and is very popular, also, an even longer sideline is still in able condition to use.

This sideline was like 3 km long and led to a sawmill. They closed it in the '970s, and I remember from my very small age that a pair of rail was stuck in the asphalt where it crossed the road. Now only that bridge remains. It is used by tourists to walk through the creek, but it starts to be life-threateningly dangerous as the original wooden boards are slowly but steadily rotting outta their place.

Fun fact that now a chairlift opened near to the former sawmill, and there are some voices around that this former sideline should be re-built.

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Not sure if it really counts but I work in the buildings where the Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe railway began. Today it's BNSF Railway's locomotive overhaul and wreck repair facility. Sadly many of the buildings from the turn of the century are gone today including the old round house and turn table. At one time over 2,500 workers were employed at the shops where they built entire steam locomotives and cars from scratch. They once even made headlines for having built the largest steam locomotive in the world at the time. There is so much history on the property, honestly it makes me sad that so much is gone and what remains has been changed so much. Walking through the buildings and around the yard you find evidence of old tracks or maybe the foundation of a building. I wonder what those tracks and buildings were used for in the past. Over the past few months the city ripped out the street that runs alongside the yard in order to put in new storm drainage and rebuild the street. We saw them pull a huge number of old ties out of the dirt, it was clear that the road followed the path of what used to be an old track heading East.

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>>989742
This is most of what remains today, you can match a few of the buildings with the old picture and tell how much there used to be.

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>>989745
This is inside the long building that extends off the left of each picture, which we call 'The House'

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>>989746

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>>989747
I believe the building was originally built by a bridge company in the 1880's, possibly earlier, but was sold to ATSF shortly afterward.

It's really cool to walk through today and see things that have been there for over 130 years. Just the building itself gives off such a cool vibe.

>>989748
Excellent pictures. Thanks for sharing.

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I unfortunately don't have pictures myself (pic related is from a Google search), since this was so long ago, but my father and I hopped the fence and saw what was left of the old Westside Lumber Co engine shed, workshop, and the tipper that would deposit logs from the cars into the lake.

My family being Tuolumnee natives we would also hike up the old railroad tracks into the woods a few miles up to the first trestle (Which burned in a wildfire.) and camp out for the night.

Thankfully some of those old Shays and Heislers were saved when it closed in the 70s, one heisler in the town park, one heisler and one shay run for Roaring Camp out by santa cruz, and shay #12 still runs in Colorado.

Unfortunately the old engine shed collapsed a while back.

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>>990060

I heard a story once, from my grandfather, that he would (successfully, sometimes) get to ride on the empties going up into the mountains at morning and jump off at the river to fish or hunt squirrels, and come back on the loaded train later in the day. My father rode them once with him when it was briefly a heritage line called West Side & Cherry Valley, before that closed down too.

>>990062

>West Side & Cherry Valley

There's a couple vids about that on youtube for anyone interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ENbg6kYL-8

>>990060
>>990062
>>990072
Would it be worth hiking the old grade today or is anything left?

>>980579
Or watch someone do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWF3IDk9Gek

>>980572
>>980573
>>980579

to add: the original IRT cars had the doors on the ends of the car (you exited from between two cars), so this kind of car stopping on a circular platform (even the gaps at union square) brought you right to the platform edge

when cars with doors on the side of the train and not where they meet were introduced, you weren't on the point of flex of a turning train and big gaps were created

(also i think if this killed it, it probably would have died when they did platform lengthening, i think it can only fit 3/4 cars)

>>993235
Part of the old grade is now a hiking trail maintained by Tuolumne itself, when the West Side Lumber changed from Shays to trucks they only ripped up about a mile worth of track out of town, if you walk the trail for a time you'll start to see ties, then tracks on them.

The trail is maintained through to the north fork of the Tuolumne River, but the tracks wind through those mountains all the way up next to Yosemite and Cherry Lake.

There's a local legend, that's somewhat backed up by official accounts:

While the railroad was still operating, a Shay under load hit a bad rail and flipped right over. It rolled down the side of a valley about three times and came to rest around some boulders, somewhat intact. It's still out there somewhere, I once saw a Youtube comment from someone saying he rode out there on an ATV as a kid and saw it, but that was years back and before the Rim Fire. The Shay is still there, likely, but likely engulfed in brush.

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>>993569

If you want to hike it, the trail starts at the intersection of Buchanan Rd and Mira Monte Rd, there's a parking lot hikers use. Last time I took a walk around there, it had some traffic, maybe 1 or 2 other hikers and a horseback rider.

>>993569
>>993572
Neat thanks for the info!

Got any more pics?

>>993666

None, unfortunately, but the tracks that lead out of town wind through some beautiful country.

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>>976766
Finally got around to visiting this today
Didn't cross the bridge because I was afraid someone would see me and call the cops
all my pictures are shit

>>994124
That's a pretty neat pic, 2bqh. Too bad you pussied out, do they even have trespassing laws in Canada?

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>>994132
Trespassing on a railway bridge is probably some kind of terrorist offense these days. Maybe I'll go back some time

>>994133
How far off the bike trail is it? Is it on the east or west side of the Don?

>>980569
looks cool

>>994164
East side. I started from the spot where the bike path crosses under the track in a culvert, a bit north of the Riverdale bridge. From there the track runs alongside the DVP so you would have to climb through the forest to get to it

tfw you kill an interesting thread

>>988083
if i was a janitor or something at the Waldorf, i would hide some cleaning stuff in this car to whip out when a minor disaster hits. "Crap, we are out of Windex, and we have a VIP coming!""Oh, are we, now?" [pfftt] wipe wipe wipe

>>996637
how high are you right now?

>>980639
Where is this?

>>996654
yes, the lumpen prole must comfort the elites, even in the face of disaster.

nigga, you so brainwashed

>>997016
oops, meant for >>996637

>>981359
Were you talking about going into Lowell station or Boston North station?

>>981359
Foilage between tracks doesn't mean a lot.

The most reliable way to tell how often track is used is by looking at the head of the rail. Nice and shiny? It's used frequently/daily. Shiny with rusty patches? It's still used but not nearly as much. Thick rust all over? It hasn't been used in some time.

Now, there will be decently thick rust all over on brand new rail, but you can spot that easily based on there being zero overflow.

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>>988081
some people have actually done quite a bit, about a decade ago they were in much worse shape. They pretty much rebuilt the whole grade underneath them.

I personally would have just left them to be reclaimed, but whatever

the whole railroad is a pretty neat story, look up Eagle Lake and West Branch Railroad

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This berm is all that remains of a trestle that used to span Hop Brook on the line between Waterbury and Danbury CT.

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>>1000672
Here's the eastern approach of the old rail bed.

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>>1000677
Here's the western approach.

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>>1000679
The railbed continues to west, and is now a mixed use path.

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Bunker Valentin.

Built as an unpenetrable U-boat factory.

The bunker was hit by the RAF before the ceiling was completed and subsequently construction was suspended because of lack of resources and losing the war in general.

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>>1000724
It is massive.
ca. 420m in length.
Ceiling would have been 7m of concrete after completion.

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>>1000726
Basically an U-boat assembly line.

>>1000724
>>1000726
>>1000729
Pretty cool, is that your photo from inside?

On a related note, a steam locomotive wrecked over 100 years ago was just rediscovered by divers in Lake Superior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTfWHoqZfGQ

http://interestingengineering.com/divers-find-wrecked-steam-train-from-1910-in-lake-superior/

>>1001201
>>1001201
Nope, not mine. But I live 30km away from it and it is in most parts accessible.

Today it is a monument, especially for the forced workers that had to built that behemoth.

The concrete (500.000m3) for that thing was literally mixed by hand and up to 6.000 people died during construction.

The connection to the river was never made (as you can see in the aerial view.)

>>1001276
>6.000 people died during construction.

How?

>>1003604
Overwork, malnutrition, sickness, arbitrary killings.

>>1001276
>fractions of a person
>thousandths even
Six people dying isn't that bad, it's equivalent to the Boston massacre

>>1003610
Since you insist on smartarsing, 6.000 in US notation is not a fraction of a person.

Additional help: Europe has a different tradition writing numbers. Sure, it's an US board but you could have refrained from demonstrating your ignorance.

>>996669
Hiram, Maine...

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Krefeld-Linn, NRW, Germany.

>>975328
The worst part is that a good chunk of these rail right of ways became recreational trails. There was an old spur line that ran within a mile or two from my house. Though abandoned for decades, the tracks were still there until 2002-2003. Today it is a paved bike trail.

I've seen other instances where rail right of way was split in half between the property owners that lined the old right of way.

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>>973597
Old rail is sad but really cool at the same time.

>>978052
Where? !
I live in New England and I'd love to take a trip to see those. Depending on where it is I would kayak/camp for a bit.

>>981559
Is there a pic without people?
>>988083
So cool
>>988129
Beat me to it.
>>989748
Wow, wicked cool to be working in a building that survived for over a century.
Too bad more roundhouses didn't make it. There is one near me that is only some sign and outlines of the stalls telling you it's there.

>>990060
>shay #12 still runs in Colorado.
Great news

>>993422
Guy was a little annoying at first but he grew on me. Really enjoyed that.
>>995969
Why, you gonna post fixies?

>>996637
What the fuck made you think of that?

>>997835
>old rail is rusty
>new rail is also rusty
Wtf?

>>998704
Damn, that's impressive. How long did that take them? Any links to news articles etc?

>>1003604
I'm assuming it was built with Jewish labor. No fucks given, work until they died replace and repeat.

>>1001201
Wonder where the spoopy skellintons are. Neat find, you can even see the boulders it hit derailing it.

>>1007416
Eagle Lake, in Maine. It's in the Allagash Wilderness so you can't get there by car. Hike, canoe, or snowmobile required.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/46°19'20.9"N+69°22'30.4"W/@46.3224627,-69.3772977,17z

>>1008327
That's great, I want to do this now.

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>>1007438
>>old rail is rusty
>>new rail is also rusty
>Wtf?

'New' rail often sits around for a while before it gets used. In addition, steel fresh from the rolling mill is often covered in rust and scale anyway.

>>1008713
Gotcha

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Terror_(1813)#Discovery_of_the_wreckage

>The location of the wreckage, and evidence in the wreckage of anchor usage, raised the possibility that some of the sailors had attempted to re-man the ship and sail her home,[8] possibly on orders from Crozier.[17]

Really makes you think...

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Easy mode

>>1009158
>HMS Terror
>entire crew dies during Arctic expedition
>evidence of possible cannibalism on crew remains
>600 miles from nearest civilization

poetry

>>1009889
They really could have picked a better name in retrospect.

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This trestle is one of the last remnants of the Waterbury to Cheshire train line.

>>1012515
Connecticut?

>>1013726
Yeah.

>>1014052
My nigga. Ever ride the Essex steam train?

>>1014208
A loooooong time ago for an elementary school field trip.

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Pass Lake trestle, former CN Kinghorn subdivision between Thunder Bay and Nipigon, Ontario.

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Pool 4a/b, Thunder Bay Ontario. Shuttered in '95

>>1014790
I'm hoping they'll go to Middletown one day.

>>1009889

sounds like they plagiarized "The Grey" movie

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>>1008629
OP of that picture, can't recommend the area enough. I was there on a big canoe trip when I was in the Boy Scouts and it was the best camping I've ever done. Absolute desolation too, in the eight days we spent on the water we say a grand total of three other people, one of whom was the ranger. Pic related, its Allagash Falls

I'm looking for an abandoned rail line/spur/sub in western Canada, preferably Alberta
I built a cart similar to this
>>981400
and need to have somewhere to run it.
Any help or direction would be appreciated.

>>1016080
Look up old coal mining regions on topo maps and you're bound to find something.

>>981559
Philly has so much dank shit like this

>>1007412

Milwaukee Road?

You can see one of the electric substations from I-90 just outside of Coeur d'Alene

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right outside my back door at work. main line is about 5000 feet away and and its sad they dont use them cause it would be awesome to have something to take pics of when im at work on break.

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>>1003771
Stop using the wrong system REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1021353
Is that really abandoned or is it just an industrial spur that currently has no customers?

>>1021353
Neat

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6567549,-117.6670254,253m/data=!3m1!1e3

Last vestiges of US Government railway at Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake, CA.This line ran west to Inyokern, where it connected with Southern Pacific's Jawbone Branch to Mojave, now also abandoned north of Searles.

https://youtu.be/ydN2qdoLNWY
>Putting cars onto old rail

>>975534
did a choo choo go insode of the tonnel before

>>994124
>>994133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3hSZ8xaZE

>>976806
Such a shame this was never finished before Cincinnati went to shit. It will never be finished now.

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>>975534
>>976978
>>976990
>>1022366
975534 (Erlesraintunnel) and picrelated (Asbacher Tunnel) are on the former route 4110, Heidelberg to Neckarelz. During WW2, it brought lots of poor souls from several small prison camps to a huge cement mine (Brasse), where they had to build plane engines AFAIK.

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>>1012515
A couple more remnants of that that line. The bridge over the Naugatuck River

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>>1023528
Piers for a span over Washington Street and the Mad River.

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>>1023529
Bit of trestle from Washington Street to South Main. Still has the rails on it.

>>1021353
thats comfy as fuck

Wish I had some rails like that outside my house to enjoy

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Seven Mile Bridge, in the Florida Keys.
The old bridge hasn't been used for a while. First was used as a train bridge, then as a car bridge, then the new bridge was built solely for cars.

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Built in the early 1900s, it was used by the Los Angeles Pacific Electric Railway.

The bridge is still maintained, but hasn't been used in decades.

>>1023698
;_;

>>1023698
>The bridge is still maintained, but hasn't been used in decades.

That's odd. There are bridges that are actually being used but aren't maintained. This country needs to get its priorities strait.

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>>990060
This a more current image?

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Former Vítkov railway in Prague connecting main station with Vysočany and Libeň stations. In service until 2008. Nowadays a bike path.

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>>1023842

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>>1023843

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>>1023844
aaand back in the day

>>1023845
Cabview video from this line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFUZbae__E

>>975483
Washington DC fag here. Same in this area: several former rail lines are now bike trails. They're talking about reconverting one of them back to light rail.

>>1023841
That is so cool.

>>1023847
>They're talking about reconverting one of them back to light rail.
If only officials could get their act together. We can't into infrastructure anymore.

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>>1023845
>>1023844

>>1023844
>>1023845
That's not abandoned, that's repurposed for the superior mode of transportation.

>>1023870
>bicycles
>superior

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>>1023857
Just for your info, the line was abandoned because new, faster 4-track was built

>>1023931
>new rail infrastructure
Noice

>>1023846
The rural parts look pretty comfy.

>>1023870
Not an argument.

>>1028171
true