Bike Infrastructure General

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Rides this beauty twice a day

>>948394
how does this work, pedestrian -> bike slow -> bike FAST?

>>948412
Something like that

>>948394
who designed this retardation? The tarmac is divided between wheeled and foot traffic while the part that CLEARLY looks like a sidewalk is for bikes, too?

>>948394
Gotta go fast
I was in van city a couple years back and the infra seems pretty good. Didn't ride because it rained 4 out of 5 days that i was there

>>948447
There's speed limits on the Stanley park pathway

>>948448
What is it? Its 20 kmh in Calgary even for major commuter pathways which is total bullshit

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freshly paved. consistently reach 35mph on my mtb with slicks.

>>948460
I think it's 20. But that's only Stanley park. The rest of Van is really good for cycling, not just because of the bike lanes, but because motorists are used to tons of bikes on the road.

>>948465
Does anyone have a spare SI brochure? This anon seems to be missing his.

>>948466
Thats great. I did the little hike in stanley park and would be great for a midweek rip through the woods. They installed bike lanes a year ago but they are dangerous as hell.

>>948469
>they are dangerous as hell.
Why? I only lived there from 2010-2012

>>948467
I'm sorry I meant 52.1908*10^-9*c

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>>948470
I meant calgary bike lanes
The positioning of cars into the alleys is pretty bad, they would have to do a full shoulder check with traffic behind them going straight. Image is not mine.

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>>948363
>>948385

Yet the city is still not without its traffic jams

>>948548
It would be substantially better if all that space to the right of the cyclists was redistributed more fairly and you didn't have retarded laws on left turns.

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>>948555
mph. it's one short descent. my average that trip was 11 mph.

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>>948558
>descent

>>948552
The cars need a separate right turn lane an lights to get a chance of ever turning right here.

And by retarded left turn laws i guess you are again referring to cyclists. To be honest i like that law. It keeps cars and bikes segregated at intersections like this.

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>>948385
We copied you guys. But goes over a motorway rather than a scenic waterfront area.

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>>948706
And then it connects up to a re-purposed disused motorway offramp. Which is through a motorway junction.

Pretty decent for our city's nascent cycle infrastructure (Auckland NZ)

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With all the copenhagen-love in this thread I thought I better add this...

>>948363
>>948394
>>948548
These bike lanes are actually dangerous as fuck. Ironically, it would be much safer simply cycling on the road. A study found that the risk of an accident is 5 times higher on intersections with bike lanes. Even if the bike lane uses a different color scheme, the risk is still double. Motorists are simply too dumb.

Bike paths shared with pedestrians are horrible too, even with markings. Kids, dogs on leashes, smartphone zombies, runners listening to music, etc. They don't give a fuck about the markings. Then you have the obstructions, people parking on bike lanes, trash bins, etc.

Most bycicle infrastructure is poorly designed.

>>948745
I wonder what the miss ratio is for those.
At least most of the garbage ends up in a close vicinity to the can so the clean-up crew has less walking to do.

>>948564
Are you fucking retarded? He didn't claim he averages 35mph, he said he reaches 35mph on that stretch. He never implied it's flat. And descent is spelled correctly. You are an absolute fucking downtube.

>>948758
>A study found that the risk of an accident is 5 times higher on intersections with bike lanes.

Could that perhaps have something to do with bicycle traffic volume being fifty times greater at those intersections? You fucking idiot.

>>948909
This. >>948758 is a fucking downtube. Riding on sidewalks can be unsafe due to cagers not seeing cyclists at intersections but bike lanes are a very good thing.
>Then you have the obstructions, people parking on bike lanes, trash bins, etc.
This is a valid point though
>Most bycicle infrastructure is poorly designed.
And this is often true

>>948914
>>Most bycicle infrastructure is poorly designed.
>And this is often true
Cyclist lives matter

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West River Drive. Philadelphia closes a 4 lane road to cars on weekends in the Summer.

It's very nice. About a mile and a half ?

>>948758

I'd like to read this study

I've seen separated bike lanes in Long Beach, CA but they were kind of retarded and you still had to deal with intersections with cars

>>948477
>c

In what medium? I suppose you meant c0?

>>948984
I am cycling through earths atmosphere near sea level so I suppose c0 is within 1%

>>948989
The last digit was totally unnecessary, since it falls outside of the accuracy interval tbqpaphmgl

>>948758
>i dont know what the fuck im talking about

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>>948990
hmm you are right. Taking relativistic effects into account might have been a waste of time.

>>948900
people dont miss them more than normal trashcans

>>948758
Its about traffic culture and education. Here all drivers are used to bikes, and everybody knows they have to give way for them.

>>948758
US or Western Europe?
Because people (and especially drivers) act different in US to what they do in Europe.
Generally, in Western Europe where commuting on bike is more prevalent in the population drivers tend to be more aware and careful. In US they want to kill you.

>>949203
This.

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>>948909
I might have worded that poorly. What I meant is that your risk as a cyclist to be involved in an accident on an intersection is 5 times higher if you are on a bike path that crosses an intersection (e.g. if the bike lane is on the sidewalk) as opposed to cycling on the road. Just to make sure, this is inner-city only.

Pic related.

>>948965
They are german studies, unfortunately. There is one in english though:

http://www.tft.lth.se/fileadmin/tft/dok/publ/5000/thesis146scr.pdf

>>949209
Europe. This might be just due to bike path design in germany, but I dunno. The Netherlands have a shitload of bike paths and the accident rates for cyclists are still quite high, as far as I know.

>>948363
>let's paint literally everything the color of RAGE
I'm crying tears of blood just from looking at the pic. I think I'll go blind if I ever have to ride this road in person.
Also looks slippery as fuck in rain.

>>949008

>riding in doorzone
>riding in drivers blind spot
>lane filtering with moving cars

wew lad do you want to die?

>>949411
>riding in doorzone
yes
>riding in drivers blind spot
I suppose so but that bmw didn't even signal the right turn
>lane filtering with moving cars
not sure if keeping to the side of the road is filtering

i wear an expensive helmet m8 :^)

captcha: tricycles

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>>949392
Its only a small area, and the red stuff works like normal asphalt. Not slippery at all.
Source: I commute through the park every day.

IMO its a nice way of creating an open public space in an area that already have plenty green parks.

>>949317
>Pic related.
Only if the driver is a mong and you - stupid.
Never trust them. Ever.
If you have even as little as an 1% of an ounce of doubt, it's better to slow down and let the car go, instead of risking it bumping right into your knee and ending your career as a cycling hobbyist for ever.

>Europe.
There's Europe and there's Europe.
I'd think Germany is on the civilised side in this regard.
Anyway, I prefer riding on a dedicated bike path since it's safer, even if getting thru an intersection requires me to slow down and pay extra attention. Being out of the road lets me be safe from road rage (most of it anyway) and cars overtaking way too close.
Cheers.

>>949392
Looks like a running track surface. Not really any more slippery than tarmac.

>>949711
There's a bike path near my place that made of that weird tarmac+track surface mix that rolls pretty sweet, but it stays wet (after a rain) way longer than others.

>>949717

>Looks like a running track surface. Not really any more slippery than tarmac.
>There's a bike path near my place that made of that weird tarmac+track surface mix that rolls pretty sweet, but it stays wet (after a rain) way longer than others.


The red bike lane is made of that new pervious kind og asphalt that lets water through.

>>948745
https://youtu.be/iNy9Hmp2n5Y

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>Preferring all of these narrow lanes
Why do you cuck yourselves so? A nice wide lane is far superior.

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>>948363
The local city officials started integrating segregated bike paths into road reconstruction projects in my city.
The results so far have been pretty good.
>pic related (there's another lane on the other side of the avenue)

>>953841
Where is this?

>>953868
East end of Ottawa in Canada.

>>948745
When was the last time you were riding a bike and it hit you "oh shit, I need to get rid of this trash, like right now"?

>>949922
https://youtu.be/vSaUWDOexXU

>>954033
cyclists in copenhagen do all kinds of crazy shit while riding their bikes. shit i see mothers with children on board, texting while going through intersections...

>>954033
The very moment I finish my muesli bar.

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>>954049
>carrying all that unnecessary extra weight that slows you down when it matters most
At that point you may not even leave the house at all, nuggah.

>>954053
>slows you down when it matters most
>commuting home after work to fap to chinese drawings

touche

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>all those faggot tier lanes
Rio de Janeiro's lane train people for the hardships of life.

>>954055
The energy you waste carrying your muesli bar wrapper is energy you could use to fap to chinese cartoons.

>>953841
I really dont get why other countries are still not grade-separating the sidewalk and the bike path.

>>949202
Yeah but because people over there are probably polite enough to respect their own country.
Put that in any other place and it invites dick swinging competitions about who can hit the trashcan better and faster, with predictable results.

It's cool I guess, but a complete waste of money.

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Some of my favorite things.
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Get on my level Burgers.

>>954056
came here to post this, beat me to it

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>>956815
Fucken neat.
But what's the deal with that cage?

>>956829
Neat, however I am all for the cageway to be sunken rather than the ped/bicycle paths be risen since it would make it easier to not climb all the way up just for some lazy ass deathcages-enablers having a go.
But that's me.

>>953739
well im from a third world country so everything is small here

>>956847

>But what's the deal with that cage?

Probably the Pterodactyls

>>948745
Very cool

>>954033
I definitely have stuff to bin on my bike, chewing gum is probably the biggest thing and then I end up throwing it at the nearest drain (and missing) because I can never see any bins

>>956829
There is no fucking way that was worth the money

Fuck retarded government spending

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>>956829
Looks neat. Reminds me of this bridge in Minneapolis.

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>literally just painting half the sidewalk and calling it a day

>>957118
Slovensko is better than this.
Don't they have some extra fancy bike infra in the mountains?

>>956829
Eindhoven may be great,but The hague is faggot tier in terms of infrastructure
Behold the materpice that is "dude paint red stripes lmao"

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>>957148
fuggg

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>>957118
>>957142
Not sure about bike paths in mountains, but infrastructure (not just for bikes) is terrible almost everywhere. The thing is, most cities and towns try to build some bike paths, but in most cases, they are totally useless (some of them go literally nowhere, some go against the direction of traffic on the road and so on), because people who design/plan and build them know fuck all about riding a bike in the city. I wish they would spend money on fixing the damn roads instead of building useless bike paths everywhere, the only people who use them are joggers and stupid moms with strollers.

pic related is my town's mayor, and yes, he's a fucking retro-fixie riding hipster faggot who makes people hate cyclist even more than before.

Sorry for the rant, but things like this make me furious, since I have to commute on the damn broken roads almost every day.

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>>956815

Where is this?

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>>957162
Well, we had an Slovakian Embassy official recommending to go over the border to your state to enjoy some of the nicest mountain-tourism bike paths in the region a few days ago in local radio AFAIK. It sounded pretty damn rad.
Anyway, I'd like to tell you bad things about my city's bike infra, but, all in all, it's pretty good. On my daily commute (~7,5 km) I could get less than 2 kms off bike paths (depending of the routing) and that's not even close to the City or particularly new neighbourhood. Granted, most of the paths are paved with those shitty ass "baum brick" (pic rel) and cagers don't treat you seriously, but it used to be way worse. It'll get good for you as well.
Cheers.

Oh and don't underestimate on-street contra-lanes for bikes - shit's pretty dope.

>pic related is my town's mayor
Hilarious.
And is that a stamp brake? HILARIOUS.

>>957162
thats not a fixie though

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>>957170
>>957142

Disregard the slovaks. The slovens have bike paths through mines, something something better slovenec.

>>957162
>CST metropolitan palm bay tires instead of
Schwalbe(pbt)fat frank with proven K-guard anti puncture layer

Its like he wantt to puncture when riding over a beetle

>>957202
I know your shtick, you shmuck, but schwalbe does have some nice looking tyres out there. The retro ones with that fancy lettering and greenish sidewalls are sick.

>>957202
I'd like to shill too. How big is the wage and where do I apply?

>>957164
South Korea. Bicycle road from Seoul to Busan.

>>953841
>bike path
Implying that's anything other than a two-tone footpath.

>>954033
When was the last time you were carrying some rubbish and didn't appreciate a public bin you happened across?

>>956813
>VERY fast cyclist riding at incredible hihg speed

>>957149
They've taken the trouble of highlighting the door zones for you! Be grateful.

>>957170
>Abusing SI prefixes and unit symbols
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>956900

but 5-stacks of road lanes for cagers that cost > $1m/km are

>>>/containment/

>>957243
It's not possible to build such roads at a cost of $1 x 10^-3

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>>956900
Well cyclist are important in the Netherlands. But yes it was kind of a prestige object if you ask me.

>>957149
Ha daar fiets ik iedere dag zo'n beetje. Is tweeweg verkeer daar. Best link af en toe, want het is te smal voor 2 auto's om te passeren, zonder over het fietspad te gaan.
Maar verder is Den Haag prima hoor, veel mooie routes en fietspaden, zeker langs de kust.

>>957221
>When was the last time you were carrying some rubbish and didn't appreciate a public bin you happened across?

Yesterday, I calculated that fiddling with my back pocket while mounted was not worth the effort and threw it out when I got home.

>>959713
>Manipulating the contents of your back pockets is a non-trivial effort
Get a load of this plebeian

Manchester UK,
>If you see a any bike path or lane don't go there, don't go there unless you have a mountain bike with full suspension.
>with very few exceptions

>>948363
>Bike Infrastructure

Absolutely disgusting, might as well get your daughters full body tattoos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AbLu5EZLk

>>948363
bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osDOXJGn9pQ

>>962043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zffvkFvSQo

>>956814
is this meant to protect you from some wildlife or to prevent you from jumping into the river?

>>959801
This made me want to die, it is moments like this which make me realize cycling in this country is a complete lost cause

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Brisbane Australia has some pretty awesome bike tracks.

>>962107
+ i heard you're allowed to ride on the footpath :o

Does anyone even ride a bicycle in America? It looks incredibly unsafe. No wonder you're all fat fucks. I wouldn't even leave the house if I lived in the United States I'd probably get mugged and left to die in an alley by urban youths or perhaps shot by a redneck.

>>959801
>this is real life

>>962168
Too much diversity for bikes or public transportation in most of the United States. It only works in some college towns.

>>948363
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>>948745
>>949711
>>956829

Fuck, this stuff really makes me want to escape my shitty midwestern hometown. I could actually ride a bike and not deal with fucking pickups, or people telling me to get off the road, or actually go more than 3 miles away from home without feeling like I'm going to die in an intersection.

God, fuck American rust belt transportation infrastructure. Cars above all, to hell with anything good.

>>948363
B I K E

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>>948363
>>948363

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Not my pic, but it's one of the best new things to get put in Boston. It's a bike box at an intersection at the end of the Mass Ave bridge connecting Cambridge and Boston.

Its great cuz you're coming off the bridge at a decent speed due to the slight decline, during commute hours the traffic is always backed up and asshole drivers would get into bike lane to make right turns forcing you to really slam hard on the brakes. So they put in a bike box and actually made it a protected intersection by putting in plastic barriers, stopping cars from getting into bike lane to turn.

Still got a long way to go for decent infrastructure on all major roads.... good chunk of the time it's just sharrows.

>>966002

Seems like it basically institutionalizes shoaling :-/

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regular ol' roads thanks
>Seven Sisters Rd, right next to Finsbury Park, nice descent close to where I live, though not as nice as Holloway Rd

What's /n/s opinion on "rails to trails" programs?

>>966052
Stupid as fuck

Keep the rails, ban cages, turn all roads into bikes only

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>>948363
bump.

>>966057
The rails have mostly been gone for years already. At least where I live.

>>966052
Fucking fantastic. Lets you avoid traffic for long stretches in areas where it's mostly pretty awful to use the roads.

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Daily route to work

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>>969780
comfy
if that's the UK then it doesnt count

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>>948363
Ukraine itt. Hate this road.

>>969795
>mfw Ukraine is basically Michigan

>>956829
>200hrs in Cities:Skylines

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>>969795
Pretty close to my country's bycicle infrastructure.

>>966052
Depending on the circumstances, A+
Great way to turn old unusable/outdated tracks into something useful and meaningful

>>948758

common denominator: bicyclists
problem identified

>>949711

LegoLand

>>948437
I think about this every time I ride it

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>>957118
get on zagreb's level, scrub
>literally just putting a line on the sidewalk and calling it a day

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Ever wanted to do this?

>>966004
How so?

>>966052
Usually the the paving is too narrow and they become hotbeds of pedestrian-cyclist conflict.

>>966052
I like them. They make for great recreational rides

They usually don't do much for commuting though

>>949711
>just like normal asphalt
>Not slippery at all.
yeah wait till it rains

>>953739
>A nice wide lane is far superior.
For what? Letting your bull squeeze past you?

>>956829
I dont like that it's suspended from a central mast. Really no way to support it from the ground?

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>>957221
>Implying that's anything other than a two-tone footpath.
That's the best option for a bike path in my opinion. At least the curb separates the cagers from you. If any peds do happen to get in the way just ring the bell. Other than that it's perfect in my opinion. The bike path and pedestrian paths are also visually separable so it should have an affect on the walkers.

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Here's a new project in my rather small suburban town. I really don't know what to think of it. Yellow is bike lanes/pedestrian paths, green is a 10-story retirement home. What used to be there (the residential lots which take most of the picture) was a glass factory that closed in the mid-90's.

The other 3 big infrastructures (the bus docks/transit parking in blue, the mall in orange and the supermarket in red) are already there, although the mall is bigger and facing the other way with the parking lot facing the street, not the other way. The 4-way intersection was changed to a roundabout, which is great.I really like how the residential blocks have a big central park, and a big bike/pedestrian path going through it and ending up near the bus docks.

I just hate how they reduced the parking space for the supermarket. I also hate the name they gave to this project, "Square [town name]"

What do you think?

>>972439
Retirement homes are the opposite of mixed use

If you support age segregation you are literally a cager

The only thing old people should be separated from the rest of us for is nothing. Keeping in mind cages would be banned in the ideal world and there would be no need to revoke their cage license at age 57

>>974832
Take your pills, Harold. Are you even allowed to browse this site at your senior center? Read the computer room guidelines please. They are probably somewhere on the wall.

>>974937
Kek

>Great two-line bike paths
>Lycrafags still ride three-abreast on the road

>>976584
REEEEEEEE

I hate this shit. I'm afraid I'm going to kill one avoiding a car or killing someone in the car when I'm avoiding the bikes.

>>976982
The funny thing is the three-abreast types are the same ones to yell "stay in your lane" when you're passing a three-pack and another three-pack comes in the other direction and they have to break formation

I dunno why crabbon roadies can't just stay home on their stationary trainers where they can doctor their strava data and talk about the latest disposable bottom bracket tech

>>956829
MAGNIFICENT!

>>971471
Trippy.

>>976982
I just don't get why they'd ride on the road when there's a bike path less than one fucking meter away.

>>977020
Because bike paths usualy don't lead anywhere (SE), are sometimes mixed with pedestrians and generally unsafe for group training speeds.

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>>948363

Bicycle path on De Maisonneuve Boulevard, at the intersection with Mansfield Street.

I wanted to take more pictures, but forgot. I might take more pictures when the weather becomes better.

>>948385
>hey lets build this awesome cycleway/bridge
>but lets make it unnecessarily curvy for some reason even though it doesn't match

>>956900
>he has never been to The Netherlands

life is suffering

for non-Dutchies

>>970673
looks like here (france)

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>>977310
Its more of a ramp than a bridge really. There is quite a big difference in elevation from bottom to top. Without the curve it would be too steep for kids, old people, unassisted cargo-bikes and everyone on cheap-but-heavy city bikes.

>>948758
>Bike paths shared with pedestrians are horrible too

>on large and frequent bike path in my city, goes from city center out to rural area, about 20 mile length
>follows river, on low ground, goes under the roadway bridges
>trying to enter ramp to descend
>huge family taking ALL the sidewalk, toddlers wandering all over, dog in tow
>slow down so far I almost tip over, on a decline now
>trying to get their attention, mom is a space case, dad is busy wrangling his minitards, grandpa is deaf, kids are too young to hear?
>finally they fucking notice my saying excuse me, may I pass, trying to get around them...
>move over just enough to let me by
>kid nearly walks in front of me anyway before dad grabs him

SINGLE FILE YOU PEDS

Whenever you have a large group of pedestrians, they spread out to walk shoulder to shoulder to take up the entire path, even if it's supposed to be a shared or bike path, even if it's really crowded. They just have to be the biggest cunts possible.

>>957118

My hometown took the narrow ~2 foot shoulder on a 5 lane highway and painted a bike symbol on it. Nothing else. I called it the splatter lane.

>>962168
>shot by a redneck

Protip: rednecks aren't the ones who shoot innocent people.

It varies greatly by city and region. Places like portland, seattle, and nyc have good infrastructure. Places like phoenix, dallas...hahahahahahahaha. I wish we could glass them and start over.

>>977310
>armchair engineer
>>977463
That looks comfy to ride, especially at night.

>>977020
Did you observe any differences in the width, quality or congestion of the road lanes and the bike path?

>>977463
Cars are parked directly in front of the path beginning even though there's plenty of room all around to park literally anywhere else. These cunts are just asking to get keyd.

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Fucking hate the biking in my city, downtown area's roads are barely wide enough for two cars to pass each other, there are no bike lanes and businesses like bars build extensions to their buildings out to the road regularly, for my safety I have to bike on the edge of the sidewalk sometimes which makes people fucking pissy, I have been grabbed and screamed at a regularly for doing this, but what the fuck am I supposed to do. City is starting to to try to ban cycling, in the heart of the city with a fine, but at least most of the cops aren't fucking retarded and won't stop me for riding my bike. I've had some pull me over and I explain that the city won't give me any alternative so there's nothing I can do and they let me go.

>>978273
Jesus, what third world shithole do you live in?

>>978297
Guessing Atlanta, Houston, or LA

Although he implied pedestrians exist so probably none of those

Maybe somewhere in India or Bangladesh?

>>978273
>for my safety I have to bike on the edge of the sidewalk
That's less safe than riding on the road.

>>978197
those are the people building the bridge you fucktard

>>978357
Where did you even get that?

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Here in portland there's all sorts of bike lanes and stuff. But here's the Tilikum bridge over the Willamette which only peds, bikes and public transit can go across (the buses and trams are totally separated). The bridge has a nice hill to it which makes it more fun. Plus it was completed early and under budget. Nice job Trimet!

>>978359
Not him but
> construction fencing
> people and random stuff on the bridge that aren't on bikes
> a van backed up with its doors open
And probably more, that was a quick glance

lrn2context clues

>>978197
>>978359
>full retard

>>978676
Found the cagefag who got cucked by a cyclist for acting like a piece of shit in the street. How is that manlet syndrome going for you? Trying to compensate being a little fellow by acting big for the rest of your life...

>>948385
Oh my god, where is this?

>>948758
Are you spanish by any chance?

In Spain since almost nobody rode a bike until like a few years ago, the few people that are commited bikefags are always spouting anti-bikelane memes, mainly because
>HURR DURR MUH SPEED
They don't even want others to ride bikes because it would slow them down, they're that selfish.

>>949008
car was in the right here. if the bicyclist intended to go straight, he needed to be in the lane behind the car.

>>977266
I work 2 minutes from there.
Best city

Visiting Wisconsin right now. Are there any trails that lead into Madison from Sun Prairie? And if there is more than one, what are the longest/shortest routes?

>>978842
Copenhagen

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>scenic leafy detour

>>980090
here it is in context:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.2481017,-0.5724749,3a,90y,37.73h,67.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srvJMKUcf0BPNVO-0UjhE6A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e3

>>980090
>>980091
Kek
Very scenic

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>>977266

Here's a pedestrian/bicycle bridge on the South (or more accurately, the Shit) Shore. This goes over a highway and bunch of railroads.

>>977266
>>979111
ay more montreal bros.
best city. Plateau is tremendous biking.

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>>978392

just biked across this a month back on one of the few sunny days in June and I was very happy with it. I've just started to get back into cycling and it makes you feel safe, yeah.
On the West side, all those little bicycle street lights are hilarious, like a cattle feed pen.

>>978297
non-Netherlands
>>978867
nothing is more annoying than people that confuse cycling with sports. they make cycling culture as impossible as shitty drivers or shitty infrastructure.

>>980090
check this out
https://www.google.nl/maps/@45.7635448,4.8408056,3a,75y,128.93h,43.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFULe7z4G-kJfrWZEpZAA3A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>>978273
>>980498
Huh, surely Lyon isn't banning bikes from the city..? There is some decent bike infra there.. And in the inner city itself I found cars to be patient with bikes.

>>980469
I love this pic lol

>>980512
>And in the inner city itself I found cars to be patient with bikes.
shit no nigger. average number of angry drivers per ride is well over 1. and I am not sporty at all.

most bike infra here is quite crappy.

>>949008

This is pretty much what a cycle through Toronto looks like.

>>981068
Maybe just because I was only riding Velo'vs the drivers already knew to expect stupidity from me ;)