/gag General Aviation General

>>938594
I want to get my rotary commercial one day but fixed wing is where more opportunity lies.

Pipe dreams are neat tho

>>938659
At the moment. Two years ago the opposite was true.

Once the heli industry breaks out of its current slump and the fixed wing side is over saturated with low time pilots that it gobbled up in the panic, it will be reversed again.

But being dual rated is always a good idea. And fun.

Is anyone else super hyped for Oshkosh? Going to do a ton of flying over a few weeks, seeing lots of friends and family along the way!

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>>938690
Pic related

>>938692
I take it you'll be coming to Sun n' Fun right? It'd be hard to come up with an excuse not to, being that close.

>>938692
Jesus Christ, that route. What are you flying it in at 81 kts.

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>>938692
>Flight planned 81 kts
I like your style

>>938669
and expensive as hell

>>938722
What is this

>>938721
A Cessna 150 pulled back to 2300 rpm for dat fuel economy

>>938692
>81 kts

FIFTEEN YEARS LATER

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>>938594

I won't disagree, OP

>>938918
Haha, yeah... I'll probably push it up to 90 knots on the shorter legs and where fuel is cheap. And, with quick turn around times and no lollygagging I won't lose any time over an airplane that's 4gph thirstier and 25 knots faster. I'm in this strictly for fun.

>>938594
Has anyone ever experienced any dangerous or life threatening conditions in the air? Weather or engine failure or bird strike?

couple summers ago.
>still student pilot
>soloing
>take off on 27
>on downwind engine sounds rough as hell
>loosing altitude
>decide to cut it short and make a quick left to land on 36
>landed hard as hell and took a good bounce cuz too fast
>taxi to shop
>find out sparkplugs are flooded with oil
Not exactly life threatening but had me shaking.
Yes i did a mag check before flight. Sounded fine

>>938909
Not making fun or anything but I find it hilarious that something like an R-22 literally cruises faster than that.

I dont know if i should continue my helicopter ppl. I enjoy flying but i find myself making lots of mistakes that makes think maybe i shouldnt do this. Maybe i just some motivation i dont know.

>>939238
Where are you with your training

>>939053
On my second solo a thunderhead started forming about 10 miles away. I landed with a quickness, to be sure, but not before the air got squirrely

>>939080
What airport?

>>938918
>>938721
>>939202
You guys rag on me for flying slow but 5gph which is really more like 4.8.

Also, 81 is conservative. I'm generally doing 85-90.

>>939373
You fly like my mother drives

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So, here's something I still don't understand: Of all the airports in the United States that the EAA could hold a soiree, why choose Oshkosh, Wisconsin? Is that where the organization originally formed, or is it that the facility is somehow better suited than others to host a massive fly-in?

>>939291
Learning to do circuits, im having problems coming into land on approach and keeping the helicopter straight

>>939418
A bit of both. EAA was founded in Wisconsin, and had to move HQ a few times as a direct result of the growing popularity of their annual fly-ins.

Keep in mind, EAA is mainly about homebuilts. AirVenture only mutated into what it is today because the EAA started offering to buy gas for exhibitors, which drew in the warbird restoration crowd and, in turn, a much broader sector of the aviation community and the general public.

>>939373
So is it economy cruise in a typical/fast airplane or standard cruise in a slow airplane?

>>939425
How many hours? If you're just learning how to do patterns that is completely normal for that stage of training.

>>939430
I have done 20 hours so far and have done circuits a couple of times

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squawk ident

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What have I missed guys?

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so /gag/,
maplesucker here
if I pass all my classes I'll have my bachelor degree in mathematics this year and I'm currently working on my PPL
been going to the gym since october and getting in half decent shape

i know the selection process is tough but I want to apply to the canadian air force after my PPL is complete

how are my chances looking for at least being seriously considered for the position?

I have a class 1 medical certificate from transport canada, apparently I have 20/20 vision

>>939523
also any canadian forces pilots here?

>>939427
It's slow economy cruise in an already slow airplane. But it's flying, and it's good enough for me

Posting for name get. Will become my new callsign.

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>wants to do ppl (h)
>wants commercial heli license
>tfw dont have £35k
>tfw colour blind
>tfw would only be able to afford 1 flying hour per month
>tfw will take 4 years to get ppl.

>>939569
>good enough
Dude, low, slow and indirect is the best way to go. I really feel sorry for all the waypoint-to-waypoint suckers up at FL280 who don't actually know how to enjoy flying.

>>939632
Do you want us to feel sorry for you? It wasn't easy for any of us, we find ways to make it happen because we love flying. Find your way. Nobody's going to do it for you.

>>939632
If you want it bad enough, you make it happen. This means working 2-3 jobs (or more) and/or loans to get through your ratings, if that's what it takes.

If the shit was easy, everyone with any kind of aptitude for it would be a pilot.

>>939458
the point.

>>939458
The cost of black ink

>>939436
20 hours and only a couple patterns? What else did you do during that time?

That's something usually worked on by about flight three.

>>939933
sorry i have done more circuits than a couple i dont know exactly how many i have to check my logs.i have spent a bit more time on hovering mainly
I think im doing fine just a little slow

>>939989
No cross-country, yet?

>>940362
Not yet

>>940368
At 20 hours? What are you confused by?

>>941269
My instructor didn't even warn me about my first solo. We just went up for some pattern work, did a couple touch and go's into a full stop and told me the next few are going to be on my own and hopped out.

>>941331
Do you guys have you own joystick or share one

>>941269
I love night flying, it's really nice.

And good luck on your solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7l0y1livAo

Any more music that directly reference aviation or flying lie this?

>>941492
Oscar Brand has two albums about Air Force flying.

One he did in ~1950s and the other in the ~1980s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeHJWVoteEs

Oscar Brand is a great guy. He's like 96 years old and still hosts his radio station. My Dad was in the AF so I grew up hearing all of these songs.

>>941499
any pics of your dad in uniform?

Im soloing in 9 days and nervous as fuck, any tips, warnings etc?

>>941659
Do what you're taught and don't crash

>>939525
>>939523
CF wanna be fighter pilot here, about to graduate RMC. Completed P1 in portage last summer, P2 begins in in Sept. Ask me anything.

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>>941681
Proof

>>941659
You'll be fine. Just remember your checklists and make sure the gear is down on landing.

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four days ago, first UL jet aircraft took off.
This is very fresh new and I didnt found english coverage, so it has just czech wiki so far, but I believe those of you interested in it will be able to extract the core info from it

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL-39_Albi

It was developed by czech technical university for last 17 years and it has some stealth capabilities as it has its 13 blade prop inside the hull

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>>941799
>four days ago, first UL jet aircraft took off.
>first
You're about 35 years late, pal.

>>941683
>>941681
i have an exam tonight and tomorrow morning so I'll think of some stuff to ask you on Saturday afternoon. Thanks.

>>941331
So that would be a full stop taxi back, not a touch and go.
Touch and go, stop and go, and full stop taxi back-know the difference

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>>941799
Not a jet...its a piston-engined ducted fan, not a turbine, which is what makes this project so exciting. Its been done a few times before, but the concept never seemed to take off the way it deserves to. Hope they'll be selling kits soon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lct_kxY8R_I

>>941331
My CFI did that, too. I think it's a standard practice, to be honest

>>941799

OK - UUH

>>939458
Calculated TO airspeed, distance, max abort...

>>939458
>>942077
>Everything

>>941849
What?

I said we did a couple touch and gos, then into a full stop. Back to the ramp, he got out, then I went back up. Thought it would be obvious he wasn't stepping out onto the runway.

Anyone going to sun-n-fun? This guy is

>>942142
which guy? are you with him now?

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>>939439
That a B-52?

>>941683
Hey, not the original guy but a fellow wannabe.
Current PPL student and I'm headed to Trenton for ACS in a week. Any tips on how to prepare/what to do when I'm there? Really appreciate it.

>>941683
can I write you tomorrow? super busy with these exams at the moment

How come no one makes something like the Cessna 172, that starts at less than $100,000 new?

>>942318
Product Liability

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Whelp, after a solid couple months of delays thanks to weather, people going on vacation or the helicopter being down for maintenance, I finally have a clear picture of when I'm taking a checkride. After the first week of May I should be a fully licensed private chopper pilot

>>942246
Don't fuck up, you've only got one shot at this. Get a good night of sleep before hand, and be good at mental math and multitasking. They used to have a simulator test when I did it 4 years ago, but I think they got rid of that and now it's all done at a desktop PC.

I remember that week very well, I felt like the king of the world once me and 5 others (out of 18) passed and made it to Toronto for the medical testing. I was 17, had like $1000 bucks in my pocket and had never been to a big city before. Good memories.

>>942249
No problemo. I hope that I don't forget to check this thread though, I don't frequent /n/ often.

>>942246
>>942728
Also, the people you do ACS with might try to give you tips, tell you how the test works or something like that. For example, I remember people saying that you need to do poorly on the first couple tests and then better on the later ones, because the selection is based off of your ability to improve (this isn't true. Give max effort on each test.)

There's no quota for passes or fails, so be chill with everyone else around you, and don't be too serious outside the tests. Go visit the museum, gym and walk around the base during the day, get an idea of what the CF is like.

Also, be ready to see some tears when people fail. A lot of kids are dead set on their top gun fantasy (myself included) and so they don't take it very well when a man tells them that they aren't cut out for the job.

What exactly is the difference between a second class medical examination and a first class medical examination?
I don't mean the regs, I mean whats the difference in the checkup? Is the second class less comprehensive?

>>942734
Hey man, thanks a lot. I really appreciate it. Hope to see you down the line if I pass.

>>942503

Congratulations! How many total hours are you at, and how long has it taken you to get to this point?

I'm planning on starting within the next year.

>>942953
61 hours total, and it's taken about a year, though a lot of that was downtime due to the weather being awful.

>>942989
>though a lot of that was downtime due to the weather being awful
I know that feel.

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>landings and ground reference maneuvers in 32 knot gusts today

Finally nearing taking the written for my PPL. I've been studying hard so I can try to get my license or at least pass my written before moving to Europe for college. Kind of bad timing, but that's what makes my pursuit so interesting of course.

Best case scenario, I get my license. Will my FAA license be valid in Europe, or will I have to retest/"swap" my license for an EASA license?

Bad case scenario, I just take the written in the U.S. Will those test results transfer over, or will I have to retake?

Worst case scenario, I don't get to take the written nor the practical before leaving. Is the EASA test any different from the FAA test?

Well guys, tonight was the night I really fell in love with flying.

It was kind of chilly during pre-flight, but the winds were only 9 knots and it was a direct headwind, so that was great. Stayed in the pattern and practiced touch and go's the entire time.

I think it was 9 that I got in. First 3 or so were decent, but I gained a lot of confidence when my instructor mentioned i was doing them all on my own at this point. Next couple weren't as good. The last one was terrific though and I got the round out and flare just right. Really great way to finish the night.


Got 6 more hours with my instructor practicing landings, maneuvers and emergencies. Then I have a checkride and a solo in the pattern and another our practice area. Should have my PPL by the beginning of August hopefully.

I just flew an American Champion Citabria for the first time today.
Holy hell is it weird transitioning to tailwheel.

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Some carriers by Halsey Field

>>943337
Those things are awesome.

>>943364
Yeah I got to fly a big loop around the air station. There were some navy choppers flying around and some submarines at the naval base. Also flew over Lindbergh.

>>943185
What are you flying?

>>943440
Piper Archer for PPL right now, Arrow for Instrument I believe and Seminole for multi-engine when the time comes

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What up Bitches?!

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>>943329
Fun airplane. I love light, simple tail wheel aircraft.

I've only flown a nose gear aircraft once. All my time has been in tail wheel aircraft.

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>>943337
Sweet. It's always cool to fly around military stuff.

I got to land parallel with a F-35 at KFTW once.
He was doing a touch and go with a F-16 in formation.
It's not uncommon, most times they just buzz the runway with full afterburner.
This airport has a lot of other military traffic for some reason. Just the other day, 4 V-22s landed painted up like marine one.
F-18s, harriers, cobras, Blackhawks, c-130s, even the Blue Angeles have spent the night here. A bunch of Chinooks would just come out of nowhere and fuel up.
Lots of warbird activity too.

I see you're off glide slope, in a sharp bank, and too high. I too like to live dangerously

>>943571
It was definitely strange flying an airplane with such a simple cockpit, and no key to start it.
But I'll be damned if it isn't a blast flying an aerobatic rated plane.

Doing my 150nm XC tomorrow for my ppl, kinda nervous. Any tips?

>>943698
Get flight following if you can. Don't rush, you've got all day (you did set aside a whole day just in case, right?)

Have fun! Your instructor trusts your ability, so don't sweat it.

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>>943697
As it should be.
I mean, what can be better then hand propping a tail dragger on a perfect Saturday morning and flying over the lake at 20 feet?

Be carful when doing Aerobatics on those Citabrias though. A 40+ year old wooden spar tends to have problems, especially when people ground loop the damn things.
Unless the plane has the titanium spar STC, then you're good.

>>943698
Bring snacks and a movie to watch on your ipad.

>>943742
Ha, good one.
I've had a very erratic flight education, I haven't solo'd in almost 2 years.

>>943744
Pressed enter too soon, oops
...2 years, Don't think I'll be doing that quit yet.

>>941546
Yes but I don't see why you would want to see them. Just a normal green flight suit.

>>938692
taking your C152 out or what?

>>939523

Your medical is pretty much insignificant for the military as well as your vision. Most people fail because of their back and/or feet, which are the most important thing to withstand dem gs...
And when I say most of them fail I mean like 90+%

>>943744
Maybe you should take the aircraft out and just run a couple of patterns first...

>>943857
I would say it's more like 10-20 percent of people fail at the detailed medical at DRDC Toronto.

>>941681
Going to aircrew selection in 2 weeks. Any tips?

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>>944026
>>943717
It went perfect anons
have a picture

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>>944430
ooOOooooh,, aaaaaah!

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Bumpin' cause page 1 has become WAAAY too bike & train heavy. Behold the glory that is the UL-39, full-sized ducted fan that made its first flight this month. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lct_kxY8R_I

>>944470
you should make sure the horsies don't lick the camera lens desu wa yo

>>943853
Slower, 150. 152s got 15 HP on me

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We need more of this in 'merica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xmg45cHEPQ

Granted, they do it with feral hogs down South, but we don't have any up here in the barren-ass frozen wastelands of the North

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Flying pics!

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>>945025
>Thumb in pic

absolutely_disgusting.png

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>>945028
The post cooldown timer is killing me. It was good flying today, though there was a huge fire with a plume of smoke that went higher than I was flying. I suppose that explains the 50 fire trucks I passed on the road.

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>>945030
It was a nice day down on the water, too, if the boaters are to be believed

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>>945031
Last pic, you can faintly see the smoke from that fire near the center of the frame

>>945032
Also, I just realized I got a shot of the fire. It's a tiny orange dot in the middle of the pine stand behind the hill.

No one been flying lately?

>>945630
I got a night cross country tomorrow that'll probably be canceled due to shitty weather.

Does anyone here crop dust or ever have done crop dusting? Looks both fun, dangerous at times and exhausting.

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Explain this to me.

Why do airlines prefer flying tiny turboprops into difficult island runways, over flying larger seaplanes and then taxing it up onto dry land?

>>945715
Because you have to land at both ends of the traveled line, and most ports don't cater to airplane travelers.
>inb4 hudson river

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Took this the other day.

>>945719
modern seaplanes all have landing gear so they can use normal airports.

>>945721
Where do you live?

>>945725
Oregon.

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>>945715
whales.

>>945721
Nice

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>>945715
The world needs more flying boats

>>945715
>smaller vs larger
Is there enough business/customer volume to justify larger aircraft? If there isn't, why would they want to be flying larger aircraft?

>Seaplanes
Seaplane hulls generate a lot of unnecessary aerodynamic drag, gobbling fuel and killing range and/or speed. Saltwater is terrible for everything. It places a lot of constraints on engine placement that suck.

There's a reason the US Navy prefers aircraft carriers to seaplanes.

Civil seaplanes died out as infrastructure improved, and naval seaplanes died out as aircraft carriers got bigger and more capable.

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>>945791
Russia started building this in 2003.

US should buy some for the Coast Guard and Forestry service.

>>945816
Sure, there are still some special use cases that they're good for - particularly maritime SAR. But OP's question was specifically about commercial passenger service.

>>945721
Beautiful.

I solo'd today. 20.6 hours in when I came in to fly with my instructor. Flew in the pattern for 30 min, instructor made a call that we were coming in for a full stop, asked how I felt and then told me I was soloing. Everything went smooth which was a real confidence boost after a shit session last time in which I couldn't even fly a proper pattern.

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>>945816
Why would we buy that from Russia when the Canadians already have us covered?

>>945974
Congrats on becoming a real baby pilot

I hope you didn't let your CFI cut your shirt off.

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>>945724
Which kind of defeats the purpose of using a seaplane. They are still used a lot in austere environments without a ton of infrastructure, but if you're going to land at an airport it makes more sense to use a conventional aircraft

>>945715
So you want the plane to beach itself, deploy landing gear, and pull itself up onto land? That sounds like a good way to build rust, scrape up the hull, and generally do things you don't want happening to your aircraft. Just my opinion, of course, I've never flown a seaplane or a flying boat, but it doesn't pass the eye test in my mind.

>>946225
Nah, we don't really do that here. Got a "certificate", some weird badge that I'll never use and a neat T-shirt for it though!

>>946227
seaplanes deploy their gear while floating. Then just drive up a ramp.

>>945974
I remember when I first solo'd. Instructor did the same thing and I nearly shit myself.

Everything turned out great in the end though.

>>946227
You're dumb.

>>946225
Why not? It's a time honored tradition

>>946267
You have fun waterproofing and rust-proofing that

>>946398
Because it's cheesy and a waste of a perfectly good shirt.

>>946419
aluminum, titanium, composites, and lots of synthetic rubber like materials.

if all else fails, paint and grease every so often.

>>946456
And hours upon hours upon hours of maintenance, to the point where it's just not cost-effective to do so

>>946456
Theres no way to make landing gear from any of those materials.

>>946564
http://www.shotpeener.com/library/pdf/2011123.pdf

Happened last year
>Take off RWY09(about 900m long)
>AD elevation: 3000' (DA that day: 4300ft it was summer)
>Cessna 152
>Struggling to gain speed on run up
>Not reaching 2300RPM
>Take-off with 2200RPM dodging buildings
>Land on 27
>Take it to hangar
>It was some silly carb adjustment

Wouldnt be really life threatening if the runway was a little longer or the airport wasnt so high in a tropical climate zone, but I've never felt so afraid of anything

>>946691
Did you have the mixture set to full rich? Leaning it out might have helped

>>946654
Water still has a very good way of getting into places you don't want it, making preventitive maintanence a huge burden, and building your landing gear struts out of titanium and composites sounds needlessly expensive

>>944340

Hey man, I'm the guy that he replied to.
I just got back from ACS and I didn't make it.
Here's what I'll tell you:
1. If your sleep schedule is fucked, start fixing it from right now. Get the whole 8 hour thing down.
2. If you haven't started practicing speed/distance/time calculation & mental math, do so right now. This is what fucks up most people.
3. If you're on android, get the 'Math Tricks' app, work on all the basic operations (+, -, *, /). Otherwise get an emulator and get it, it's really the best app I've seen for improving mental math.
4. Be confident in your abilities. The entire test is designed to make you feel like you are constantly fucking up. Keep on going and work at every question with maximum effort.
5. Take your time with the instructions. They aren't timed. If the specific test has an example, take as much time to remember details and develop a plan before you actually start.
6. Have fun. It's a fun experience overall, you'll meet some cool people, see some cool stuff, and maybe get to do a cool job.

As for what I fucked up:
The test is split into 9 'sections'. You need to get a minimum score in each section, AND get an overall score for pilot. I got the overall score for pilot, but didn't get the minimum score on one of the 9 sections (mental math). After the test, the guy giving me the score told me to come back in 12 months with more practice and I'd pass no problem. Don't fuck up like I did, and good luck.

>>946760
Nope, had it 3/4 of the way rich

>>946872
Thanks, dude. Hope you make it. I'm leaving for Trenton this Monday coming up. What part of Canada are you from?

>>946887
That would have probably nearly killed me, too, then.

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>>946456

>if all else fails, paint and grease every so often.

It will -all- fail. Flying boats are the worst of both worlds. Usually mediocre aircraft (at best) and as a boat? No place to mount downriggers, to start...

If you come within the briefest whiff of saltwater, budget for CONSTANT painting and CC. You will go through lots and lots of LPS3 or Boeshield.

>>946480
>And hours upon hours upon hours of maintenance, to the point where it's just not cost-effective to do so

Yep. You're constantly washing them in an effort to delay the inevitable corrosion.

Image related. Best place to keep a flying boat like a PBY, is in the middle of a desert.

Remember not to exceed your minimums, both personal and airframe-related, kiddies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmEVwyMRYIY

>>946948
Did they use any sort of corrosion-proofing when they built those things?

>>947167
A zink slug hung somewhere convenient. Sacrificial anode.

>>947167
Considering that the PBY was notorious for blowing up mid flight if a pilot lit up a cigarette and that this is a seaplane designed in the mid 1930s, I'd say corrosion-proofing was hardly a factory standard.

Hey /gag/, how full of shit is this guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj3Usgfhdls&ab_channel=nutdo1anime

>Claims he could kill Tigers by bouncing 50 cal bullets underneath it

>>946421
Cheese is good, and you can ask the kid to wear on old t shirt.

>>947292
>Cheese is good

Metaphorically speaking? On that we'll just have to agree to disagree.

>>946948
Aluminum doesnt corrode unless there are dissimilar metals around, so if a seaplane was all aluminum, corrosion wouldnt be a problem

>>946899
I'm from Ottawa. Surprisingly the majority of people in my serial were from there as well. You?

>>947335
Sorry my advise earlier wasn't precise enough. They've changed the test significantly since I did it. Glad to hear that you get another kick at it in a year though, it used to be that your only chance to redo it was to come back with a PPL, or if you had that already, a CPL.

Do you think any of those blimp/airship enthusiasts in the other thread have ever been on one?

From what I've heard, they're a bitch to fly.

>>947335
I'm from Kelowna BC. Which entry plan are you doing? I'm in a weird position in that I'm doing ROTP civ uni, and I'm already three years into my degree. So if I fuck up and have to wait a year, I'll have to release and re-apply through DEO.

>>947416
Hey no worries, your advice definitely helped a bunch. Hope you're having fun in the Grob, and good luck at Phase 2 and beyond. Our school here in Ottawa has a Grob 115C which is kinda similar, but it's not turbo or retractable.

>>947625
I'm doing ROTP. and I'll be in your current situation a year from now. Good luck with your shit man. Also by the way, the current version of the test is straight up stolen from the RAF, and I believe there are a bunch of practice resources around the internet relating to the British test. Here's one I found that's pretty handy. If I were you, I'd do these all (no pen+paper, might seem tricky at first but you'll get better really quickly).

http://www.speeddistancetime.info/

>>947166
That's nothing
I had a friend fly 3000 feet in ground effect before flying under a bridge and some power lines because his engine wasn't producing the power he needed.

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>>947734
Oh holy shit that's so good to know. I found that exact site about a week ago and was hoping that those practice questions would be similar to the real ones. Unfortunately I haven't had a ton of time to practice because of exams, so I guess I'll just have to see how it goes next week.

Pic related is what I hope to end up flying.

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Stay flying, damn you!

>>947855
What was the density altitude? What aircraft?

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>>947935
I'm personally waiting to get into one of these down stateside

>>947935

Sexy af
Good luck tomorrow m80

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>>948013
It will, even if the engine nacelle burns off

>>948132
I guess they really don't make 'em like they used to

>>944787
some pilot...

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>>948132
>>948163
Link to story

http://www.douglasdc3.com/dc3accid/dc3accid.htm

Any anons have the photo of the one Church-based airline in Miami that tried to start pilgrimage charters back in the 70s or 80s?

It was something like an old DC-8 and the airline was called something like "Christ Saves" or something like that.

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Snagged 3 shots from flying today

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>>948517

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>>948519

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fresh oc

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Hey, /gag/, answer the question below:

-Having a passenger aircraft with two engines tethered together in close proximity sharing nacelles is a:

[ ] bad idea
[ ] TERRIBLE idea

>>948520
Nice moccasins

>>948534
Well, if it makes you feel better, it wasn't the Soviet Union's idea. They stole it from the Brits.

>>948545
They're my favorite flying shoes

>>948534
russians have more of a problem with debree on the runway, so they dont put engines under the wing like western jets. So where else should they put engines that you think would be better?

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>>948601
Behind kockpeet, like normal samolyet?

Where would YOU put engines? In landing gear? aHa ha HA ha. Americans are so weird.

>>948601
They could just maintain their facilities better and make FOD less of a problem

>>948618
The idea was to be ready for wartime conditions. In a war, if a bomb craters your runway, but there's still some asphalt left, then you want to try to use as much of it as you can.

To the soviets, fighting under the worst possible conditions wasn't some theoretical thing. It was (at the time) a recent historical event. Hence why all their doctrine and equipment was designed around the idea that everything has gone to shit.

>>948618
>They could just
Do you understand what the word means? It's a lot less work to design aircraft to accept bits of rubber and some gravel than it is to have tens of people hand in hand picking it clean from the very last pebble before each runway use.
It's also the kind of runway you'll be dealing with no matter you like it or not if there is an actual shitstorm.

>>948628
>>948694
Yes, but WW2 was 71 years ago, and if pictures you see in the interbutts are anything to go by it looks like they just let half their runways rot and say "IS GOOD ENOUGH TOVARISCH"

>>948534
>be flying il-62
>die

>>948534
In its defense, it has a neat canopy

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How can Airbus even compete?

Boeing could at anytime, release a triple decker 747.

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>>949146
>could

https://youtu.be/Gw2RW7xybmU

Why does it seem as if modern commercial airplanes would never be able to survive such damage?

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Hey hey, anons. Time for a poll.

Boeing 707 or Douglas DC-8?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10062426

Haven't flown on either, but the DC-8 has such a sexy shape to it. And mmf those nose vents.

>>949146
not really that is bulge is mosly air. not structure. or people packed like sardines

>>948534
Why is that such a bad idea?

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>>949207
MD-80

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>>949323
This is true.
Related news, I want the 737 to fucking die already. All of these stretches to an ancient model have just been pushing passengers further into airbus' arms.
I just want a proper 757 replacement ;_;

>>949207
>doug
>not prop plane
Disgusting

>>949451
Boeing has a ton of MD DNA in their planes post-merger

What kind of jobs can I even get at 300 hours? Is there anything aside from flight instruction even available?

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>>949521
Banner-towing, towing gliders, local aerial tours, aerial photography. I did all of those years ago....hopefully regs haven't gotten more restrictive since then. Good luck!

>>949521
Flying for Susi Air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFsVRQyhlg

>>949532
Thanks, I'll look into them. I remembered fire watch is also available, but only for a couple months where I live.

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rare airship passing through

"The most commonly used lifting gas, helium, is inert so presents no fire risk. Modern airships have a natural buoyancy and special design that offers a virtually zero catastrophic failure mode. A series of vulnerability tests were done by the UK Defence Evaluation and Research Agency DERA on a Skyship 600. Since the internal gas pressure was maintained at only 1–2% above the surrounding air pressure, the vehicle proved highly tolerant to physical damage or to attack by small-arms fire or missiles. Several hundred high-velocity bullets were fired through the hull, and even two hours later the vehicle would have been able to return to base. Ordnance passed through the envelope without causing critical helium loss. In all instances of light armament fire evaluated under both test and live conditions, the airship was able to complete its mission and return to base."

>>949670
your a tough ship

>>949675
for you

>>949219
Having two engines so close together means that if catastrophic damage occurs with one (Engine fire or Explosion/Disintegration) it is very likely that both engines will be damage, which is likely to cause a disaster since flying with two of four engines disabled on the same side causes a lot of yaw.

I'm sure other anons in this thread can give you other reasons as to why it's a bad idea.

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>>948130
I got the results today. I failed for aerospace control officer but passed for pilot and ACSO. Now it'll just be a waiting game to see if I'm finally accepted or not.

>>949734
When the engines are that close to the centerline, adverse yaw becomes less of a problem.

>>949535
Nah, they want at least 750TT now, the PNG operators want 1000+, as they have for years.

>>949734

Aircraft engines are designed to contain a fan/compressor/turbine blade separation within the nachelle. A catastrophic engine failure is highly unlikely to affect the neighboring engine.

As for engine fire, they have firewalls and extinguishing agents.

Also with the engines mounted that close to the center of thrust, there will be very little yawing moment even in the unlikely scenario that both engines one one side fail.

>>943056
I know for a fact converting an FAA CPL/fATPL to EASA is a right pain in the ass. Friend of mine had to retake the written exams (all 13 of them.). And also had to fly 20 hours MEP with an instructor before retaking the skill test.

Don't know if it's any different for PPL, but don't count on it.

>>948013
I really dislike how the swiss sell this image of the American/British WW2 pilots, in their watch marketing. The swiss were accountants to the Nazis.

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>>949207
Stratotanker with new turbofan engines looks tight

>>949521
Are you FAA or EASA licensed?

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>>949521
skywriter,, make it, BIG!,
,"Sally- will you mudry me- Tom"
,,,crap, closenough!

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>>950348
Breitling manufactured the clocks used in british war planes if that makes you feel better

Is there a modern version of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdviLqBDuKA

>>949751
AYYY MY NIGGA
Congrats. You're pretty much in if you got through Aircrew. How did you find it?

>>950525
They supplied timepieces to both sides. I dislike Swiss people and their lack of morals, but facts are facts.

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Hey anons, I'm at a crossroad..

New pilot, have 2 hours in on a Bushmaster II "Snowbird", my fathers plane (pick related, a Snowbird).

And I'm trying to decide on which Ultralight aircraft to get.

I've narrowed it down to these two. Either one will be a new build.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10094583

A: a Titan Tornado SS

Or

B: a Sonex Waiex-B

>>949451

Bombardier CS100/200/300 will be filling the skies soon anon.

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>>950627
It was pretty fun. Trenton is a really impressive base; definitely a lot bigger than the only other air force base I've been to (Comox.)

Unfortunately, the medical staff at the CFEME were away at a conference this week, so our intake wasn't able to do the medical portion of the selection process..... which means I'm gonna have to fly back out to Toronto from BC AGAIN for just a one day thing lol.

>>950824
Pretty sure CFB Trenton is Canada's largest air base (facility size, not range size).

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Flew a bay tour today

>>943857
>feet
So flatfoot cant get a flight slot?

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Been a little bored at work for a while and to make this the best on /n/, some 121 porn.

>>949207
707s for Pan Am, TWA, BOAC, etc.
DC-8s more widely dispersed.

Also >>949323 is right in every way.

>>949451
I don't know Anon, any replacement for the 737 would probably be even less aesthetically pleasing than the 737-stretches (and possibly even the A320), especially if the move to a 787-y nose shape. The larger engines on the MAX and NEO look absolutely ridiculous though.

>the days of low-bypass qt airliners are gone.
>you will always live in a reality driven by performance instead of a fantasy driven by aesthetics.

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>>950781
Is that before or after Bombardier goes under? I kid but in reality it is a hard sale to airlines. It will be a few years after entry into service before any majors take serious interest. The 737 and A320 series fill similar size class and are proven platforms. The logistical support for both types are well established. Airlines already have pilots and mechanics trained on those fleet types. All that would be required is a differences course for the new versions. Parts for both are readily available, if not already in stock at most carriers. Most are probably taking a wait and see approach.
>>949451
While I agree the 757 is sexy af, the 737 will probably never die. It is a proven and reliable work horse. With the stretches, you can fit as many people on a 737 as a 757. It is all business. Most passengers don't know or care what plane they are on long as they get to their destination on time. Only commercial airliner I like more than a 757 is the old 727.

>>950513
>>950515
>>950516
>>950518
>>950519
BaconRider :D

>>951292
I kind of wish they kept iterating on the 727 like they did the 737, if only for the swanky stylish looks of the thing

>>946419
Literally any amphib already does this...

>>951292
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bombardier-delta-1.3556661

Ironic.

>>951292
>>949451
757 was a godawful plane to fly on.

Last time I rode on one was 20 years ago and I still hate the plane.

>>951496
Well, there's not exactly a ton of comfy seats in airliners, unless you want to pay out the ass

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I've been umming and ahhing about training for a while now and finally decided to bite the bullet before I am too old and burdened with children to fly.

I'm fucking around at my local training school in this little Tecnam. It's pretty fun, out of Redcliffe in Queensland. It may well be the most beautiful training area on earth.

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I have an cool aviation story.

My old man is an airline pilot of many years and is reaching his twilight now. I never see the fat old bastard, but he is a fucking pro pilot. He flew L1011s on contract into Iraq during the height of the war, and has the longest fucking endorsement list ever.

Anyway, the other day he called me out of the blue and said he was coming into land at Brisbane. He rocked up in this sweet private jet thing. Pic related.

I got to have a cool walk around this thing and had a go at the controls and stuff, and he even walked me through an engine start. I helped him put the thing to bed and had a nice look at the private jet terminal for all the richfags.

TL;DR: being poor is awful, but I got to start a jet.

Are helicopters the most dangerous form of general aviation?

>>951905
Helicopters are perfectly safe, to the point where I'd call them safer than airplanes in an emergency. If you lose an engine in a plane you need to glide it in to land, and as such need a suitable area that could serve as a landing strip in a pinch, whereas in a helicopter you have more options with an autorotation. You can even corkscrew it down directly underneath you if you needed to.

>>951905
I'd say it's about the same as airplanes, just for different reasons.
Helicopters are a bit more complex in many aspects (more moving parts, non-linear flying, and aerodynamics just to name a few), but I'd say most of their accidents are human error anyway. As mentioned by >>951912 , there is more freedom in terms of engine failure (if you know what you're doing), and the ability to simply land in if encountering tough situations is a nice plus.

I like helicopters, but I don't think I'll be leaving the fixed wings any time soon.

>>950824
Ah that sucks. Glad you made it through the hard part though, hope the advice helped. Good luck at Toronto and beyond.

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Recommend me some good aviation forums that aren't swarmed by old shits who use stupid smileys like on pic related

>>952141
There's no such thing

>>952141
don't you have to pay to use the forum there anyway?

besides, the only good forums are imageboards.

>>952114
Yeah, it did help, thanks. Best of luck on your next try. What airframe are you hoping to get on once you're in?

>>951905
I'm dual rated, flying both fixed wing and helicopters.

With the exception of total transmission failure, in the event of literally any other emergency I would rather be in a helicopter than an airplane.

In other words, no.

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>>952141
Warbird information exchange (wix)

If you're into warbirds, that is.

>>952193
Cyclone or Griffin. Mainly hoping for SAR rotary work.

Anyone else here stuck on the ground while the bird you rent is in maintenance?

I suppose it gives me time to put money back in my account. Silver linings and whatnot.

>>952141
Other than the warm, welcoming domain of friendship that is 4chan?

>>952531
Someone had a hard landing and broke the nosewheel off the 172 I rent. Runway was closed for 5 hours. I've moved to an Archer II in the meantime, it's not as nice though.

>>952531
Piper Arrow IV here. Left brake has been broken for weeks now. Every time it goes to the shop, the issue comes back a few days later.
Not too much an issue though, as I've been crunching for the written exam. Hopefully I'll be able to take it by the end of the month.

Weather has been far from ideal here too, I'm so sick of it.

>>952721
>>952835
The R22 I rent has been getting a new engine for the past week, and there's still a week blocked out for the replacement left to go.

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any AMEs in here? hows it like? what work do you do?im in my 2nd semester and im out of willpower and its getting really boring..... but if i do plan to keep doing it i think il go m1 or structures.

pic related

I saw one of the sloppiest approaches ever when I was coming back from flying a couple of weeks ago. A guy in a Piper Archer tried to turn from downwind to final on a dime, ballooned up like a maniac and damn near stalled out trying to make his landing. I had to sit there and contemplate the fact that I saw someone nearly kill themselves for a bit.

Also, while I was making a right pattern in the helicopter, there was someone in a tail-dragger running a left traffic pattern parallel to me. I flew about 500 feet lower than he did to avoid any near misses and called every turn I made. He wasn't calling any of them. We turned base at the same time. I called it, he didn't. I had to almost go into an autorotation to get away from him and landed on a taxiway. Dude didn't even call final until I told him I was on the tarmac and clear of the runway, and by that time he was about a hundred feet off the ground. People like that are going to make the hair fall out of my beautiful head

>>953237
What ho, propeller wizard! Will you cast us a spell?

Is it legal to use something like Skyvector on an iPad in lieu of a more traditional paper sectional as part of your kneeboard?

Hell, an iPad could replace everything on your kneeboard.

>>954332
Legal? Where does it say anything at all about it legally being required to carry a paper sectional?

While Skyvector is 'not approved for navigation' n one can stop you from printing out a screenshot of it and using that on your flight. Neither can anyone stop you from using it on an iPad.

I'm not a fan of iPads. That said, my entire kneeboard is an iPad. If it wasn't required for work I wouldn't own it.

>>954340
The whole "not approved for navigation" thing is my big holdup, but I'd personally love an iPad in the cockpit instead of a whirlwind of papers

>>949207
Man, looking at it, I can say that the DC-8 is the most 70s plane out there. I can tell that the pilot and copilot both rock sick moustaches coupled with siderbuns and drive cars with 8-track players.

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Any RRJ-95B pilots out there?
I fly this Russian death trap for a living.

>>954618
>Death trap
What's so bad about it? I've heard Russian planes have issues with engines, though I have yet to hear any real shittalking about their aircraft from someone who flies one

Don't you wish civilian airplanes had canards and thrust vectoring?

>>954431
That's the whole reason ForeFlight exits, it's completely legit.

test

>>954665
It's not a terrible plane.
Yo be honest, I love flying it.
The issue with this plane is the relatively great amount of failures we have to deal with on a daily basis (In comparison with the A320 which I flew before this one)
As a quick comparison, I flew the other day with a Captain who told me he has dealt with more failures flying this plane for two years, than the rest of his 25 years of career.
Besides those problems (which we hope will eventually improve) this is a great plane.

>>954618
Externally I find it cute.
Internally is mostly cute, except
>Side-sticks
I mean I understand the practical benefits but man, I just prefer a proper yoke.

I remember before it entered service watching people debating whether it would break into the US and Western European market.

>>954780
What sort of failures? I'm assuming nothing catastrophic, considering you're not dead, but that's not exactly a vote of confidence

>>954798
You're right, not exactly catastropic.
But nevertheless, the sort of failures you don't want to have on a frequent basis.
We have electrical and IACS (air system) failures all the time.
Engine start failures at least 3-2 times a week.
Lots of spurious failures (anyone informed about aviation accidents know they can be fatal if pilots get too used to them)
And countless other failures.
We don't have life-threatening failures every day, but I know a couple of pilots who have been in serious trouble flying that plane.
Btw I'm a smelly Mexican (Mexican airlines bought a lot of Sukhois recently)

>>954843
It sounds like a lot of what I've heard about the Russkies and plane design is fairly accurate

Well guys, I failed my end of semester stage check two times now. Managed to do all my maneuvers and everything on my first one, but I just couldn't handle the crosswind that day.

\Went up with my instructor before my 2nd stage check and did 17 fucking touch and go's (probably 90% of those which would have passed), and I fucking choked on one of the two i had with my examiner.

Starting to wonder if this is something I can actually accomplish at this point.

>>954955
Have you tried calming the fuck down? It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't overthink shit.

>>955019
Tomorrow is the last day we can fly, so it's definitely a factor in why I fucked up so bad today. I fucking bounced on one of my landings with my examiner. I hit 100 landings right before that with my instructor, and I have literally never bounced before that.

I'm just going to try and get through this and take a break from flying over the summer. Burnt out on it and I'm not actually enjoying it.

>>955029
It's not about how bad your landing is, it's about how you recover from a bad landing.

>>955029
Sounds like you should just give up.

No, seriously. I'm not trying to be mean. Dealing with stress and anxiety without letting it affect your performance is part of being a pilot, and not everyone is cut out for it. If you're getting burned out and not enjoying it, it's time to throw in the towel.

I'm a flight instructor and part of my job is keeping students motivated and interested, and failing that, helping them to realize flying isn't for them before they waste too much time, energy, and money on it.

>>955029
Maybe you should walk away from it for a bit, maybe finish it up later Part 61 style

>>955086
It sucks because being a pilot is my dream job, and I'm literally two touch and go's away from progressing, but if I can't even do that maybe I'm not cut out for it

>>955135
I'm definitely taking a break no matter what

>>952721
Holy shit I would have liked to see that crash. Those planes are skookem as fuck, you really have to be a shit pilot to break a 172 nose gear off. Might as well total the airplane, with the engine overhaul and ruined prop and whatnot

>>955144
I'd say you're perfectly capable of it, you just need a fucking break. It's amazing what taking a break can do, and it's not like you're under obligation to fly. You're stressing yourself out when you don't need to.

Three weeks without stepping into a cockpit, now, bros. I worry that I'm going to lose my edge. I fiddle with flight sims a lot, but they do have a way of teaching and reinforcing bad habits if you use them too much

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Alright lads

>>955275
It was a student soloing in very windy conditions. He had floated about 1/3 of the way down the runway, instead of going around he pushed forward and slammed nosewheel first into the ground.

>>955590
Multi-engine time?

>>952959
my favorite 150 has been down for the same reason, but for almost two months now.

hlep

>>955767
Do you at least have a timehack for when it'll be done?

>Looking to get my private pilot's license soon (Canadian)
>Always dreamed of owning my own """""""warbird""""""", even just a trainer or something, like a T-6 or a Stearman or an O-1
Is it true you have to be some sort of millionaire to afford the costs associated with such a dream? I'd hate to have to settle for some hot garbage Long EZ crap because I don't own a goddamn corporation.

>>956054
The one published price-point for a refurbrished P-51 I've seen is something absurd like $1.79 USD

>>956069
Well, yeah, something like a P-51 is gonna be out of the average joe's price range. But something like an old trainer is not. It's just the flying and maintenance costs I'm concerned about.

>>956071
Well, hangar fees down here in New England are something like $700/month, avgas is $5/gallon, there's 50, 100, and 500 flight hour inspections which I have no idea what they cost, and at 5,000 flight hours you need a new engine, no questions asked

Also, the Texan's price point is roughly $200,000

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Went out for a flight lesson today after about 7 years of not flying. Was a little rusty , the instructor had to give a little help on the flares but other than that was a good flight . Pic unrelated just a cub out on the feild with us.

It's kind of funny watching a guy like the FlightChops guy get into mountain flying after most of his time is over flatlands. All the shit that was just part of my initial training, like mountain waves, leeward vs. windward slopes and approaching a peak from a 45 degree angle, all look new to him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlo2wWGuPYM

>>956333
Does a J-3 count as a "warbird"?

I've passed 100 flight hours!

>>956680
What do you fly?

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Should 10 degree flaps be used during take off on a 172S? I have spent nearly 100 hours on a 172 never using flaps on takeoff, but recently went up with an instructor who insisted that 10 degree flaps must be used on takeoff. Personally, I hate the way it makes the plane perform while climbing, but he was adamant that I must use flaps on takeoff. Anyone wanna weigh in?

>>956786
Don't see any reason to unless runway length/weather conditions require it. My runway is 2500 feet, always use 0 deg takeoff, 30 landing.

>>956787
Yeah, I feel the same, especially seeing as I got 8900 feet to work with at my home airport

>>955719
why would he do that

>>956797

Because his instructor didn't properly drive in the importance of using a go-around if they're not comfortable with a landing

I'd hate to be the student though, he's probably going to kick himself over and over for the damage... especially if he has to pay some of it.

>>956789
Maybe he's trying to drive home good habits for short runways

>>948197
The DC 2-and-a-half:

http://www.douglasdc3.com/dc2half/dc2half.htm

>>955497
Flying a plane is like riding bycicle.

You may think you've forgotten how to do it, but as soon as you step into the pit it all comes back.

>>956786
Not required unless you need to get off the strip early. (Soft runway, long grass, short field without an obstacle)

Climb performance is degraded by flaps 10, so your distance to climb to 50 feet is about the same. By the time you have reached 100 or 200 feet (without retracting the flaps) you would have been there sooner and earlier with a flaps 0 takeoff.

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>TEMPO 2009/2013 3200 -SHRA BR OVC010
>BECMG 2016/2017 12009KT 9999 NSW OVC025 QNH3002INS
>BECMG 2102/2103 VRB06KT 9999 SCT017 QNH3005INS TX20/2023Z TN11/2012Z

Goddamnit I have training flights to do today, it's been like this all goddamn week (Zulu-5 time zone btw)

>>938594
bump

>>938594
bmpup