/BRT/ Bike Racing Training general thread

>>914063
Do terrariums count as transportation since you just go around in circles?

>>914063
>>>/asp/

>>914065
Nope. Won't fly there at all. You don't like it then hide the thread and go talk about buses or whatever it is the rest of you do.

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HI GUYS TRAINING FOR RACING DOING ALL KINDS OF PT FOR MY KNEE TODAY. LAST SESSION OF PHYSICAL THERAPY I THINK! TOMORROW DOING 1:30 ON TRAINER AGAIN. NOIDEA WHAT COACH HAS PLANNED FOR THE 1:30 BUT YEAH LOL.


OK SOMEONE ELSE SHARE THEIR TRAINING (:

ALSO IT'S -5C OUTSIDE EVERY DAY DFOR THE NEXT 2 WEEKS WITH ICE ALL OVER THE PLACE RIP.

SO ANYWAY GUYS GOT ANY TRAINING TIPS (: HOW TO GET FROM 260WATT FTP BACK TO 340 WATTS FAST? LOL JK BUT YEAH LOL LOL ANYWAY....................
KPEACEOUTBYE

>>914126
GUISE my 20 second power today was 600w!!!!

>>914208
HOLY SHIT 600 WATTS FOR 20 SECONDS..

DAMN NICE GIRL1!!!

TELL US, AS A GIRL, WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING DO YOU FEEL IS BEST FOR YOUR SPRINTING? (:(:

Thank you for your contribution, Seth.

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HI GUYS I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE TO SHARE SOME TRAINING MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES LOL HERE YOU GO

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>>914213
A DILDO IN THE BUM GETS THE JOB DONE

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>>914219
OK LAST ONE... HUGE DUMP OF ALL MY INSPIRATIONAL AND MOTIVATIONAL QUOTES LOL.. HOPE U GUYS APPRECIATE THEM & IT HELPS YOU GET TYHROUGH THE TOUGH TIMES YOUR ALL HAVING WITH YOUR TRAINING

And here I thought there would be some actual discussion here.

What a fucking idiot I am

Tfw I want to get good so bad

>>914282
Get gud sun

>>914268
I kind of expected this. /n/ is so full of wankers and NEETs and hipsters that it was a foregone conclusion. Might I remind you that you can hide comments?

Currently recovering from whatever shithead virus is going around that crawled down into my lungs and gave me walking pneumonia, but the prednisone is helping quite a bit so maybe I can actually ride somewhere next week. Haven't even started Base yet..

>>914282
Get Cyclists' Training Bible.

>>914215
Who's Seth?

>>914320
>search /asp/
>nothing about racing road bikes
You don't like this thread then HIDE IT and STFU, wanker.

>>914208
What is 'w' supposed to symbolise?

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>>914316
THIS IS SETH (:

>>914400
Looks like like a femboy

>>914402
Yeah he told me he sucks dick all the time. He also asked if I would ask you for your number for him

>>914268
There's a discussion to be had, I don't know why I would help people on the internet train for free though.

>>914402
>>914403
Wow, sounds like nobody likes this Seth much. I already don't like him just for the posting with capslock on. The pic just makes him all the more unlikable.

>>914415
What's that supposed to mean?

I've wondered why it seems like a board that likes bikes so much also seems so against even talking about bike racing. Without bike racing there really wouldn't be much in the way of bikes at all, all there would likely be is something your grandmother would ride (like oddly enough the adult tricycles I just had to select for the captcha)

>>914315
>/n/ is so full of...
>>914426
Sadly, it's just one very vocal samefag who has appointed herself as queen and master of /n/ and shitposts relentlessly to ward off cyclists, often false flagging as one herself.

Source: Oldfag who rarely posts but still monitors the board out of habit.
This board is truly dead now, but an alternative might come soon if Josh can get his shit together.

>>914428
I guess I'm abandoning this thread then. I've been sick for a month and haven't been able to ride let alone do any training and I thought at least talking about it might be nice until I get back on my feet, but this is just dragging me down now.

Thanks, cunts!

>>914426
>Wow, sounds like nobody likes this Seth much. I already don't like him just for the posting with capslock on. The pic just makes him all the more unlikable.


lmao you're such a fucking pansy. #SayItToMyFace


Also just did 1:30, did a little bit of tempo but 90% of it was easy for my knees. Prolly will do some hardish rides by the end of the month or early Feb.

>>914323
>not creating a new thread

>using /n/ as a personal board to avoid the ridicule of tougher athletes.

Has anyone even tried to post there?

>>914464
All bike related threads have traditionally gone on n. Therefore, people looking for bike threads come to n. Why would we change it simply to appease you and your trains, Sheldon?

>>914467
No they don't even come to 4chins in the first place. You stumbled upon a board with a misplaced bicycling scene where you can talk all the shit you want within the confines of a low traffic board. Racing isn't transportation it's recreation. Unless its about riding your 26 inch full rigid with slicks and bags to work you should be posting to the correct board and allow appropriate discourse to continue.

>>914464
>>914486


How about you stop being a LITTLE BITCH and go put your mouth shut???

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>>914063
Just picked this up for under 3k

>>914500

Nah dog, not happening. Post on the right board and stop hiding your community of nohomo fagz on /n/.

No homo.

>>914486
Report the threads that you consider misplaced. I'm sure the mods will deal with them appropriately.

>>914504

What pedals are those?

>>914519
they're obv TIME pedals.

>>914504
black bikes are starting to look underwhelming.

>>914527
What do you mean? I agree that Scott doesn't look flashy, but it's beautiful no doubt

Hi guys

First race weekend is almost here, super stoked. About to purchase a TT bike from my team mate for the low so I can be a bit more competitive during stage races (road bike + clip ons won't cut it for our cat 3 field)

Recent power test put me awful close to my FTP goal of 5w/kg, should meet/exceed it by mid season (around when our state TT/Crit is)

seth please no caps we're all rly chill dudes here

>>914537
Let us know how it goes

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First race of the season on sunday. I'm gonna suck b/c I just got out of being sick for a week.

Pic related: My race bike. I still need to get some decent wheels.

>>914428
I will try and make an effort @ dat forever shitters competition thing i thought of like 2 years ago :)

Otherwise friend i think us oldfags are just going to have to accept that it will never be like the good old days :))))

But i will still always be here, sethposting and shitposting until i make or die from cancer :))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>914589
make it* :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>>914590
it sick

>>914527
It's been that way ever since it became synonymous with Chinese grey-market imports, so at least three years now.

>>914537
>w/kg
???

>>914222
>>914219
WTF do these even mean???/

>wonder about insuring my bike
>cover that includes race insurance costs $500p.a.
>more than third party fire & theft for my cage

I mean, yes my bike is worth more than my car. But I'm not sure what I was expecting really.

>>914527
Black bikes have always looked underwhelming. Especially matte black ones that are trying way too hard to be stealthy.

>>914574

those wheels are fine. What's the problem?

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>>914605
watts per kilogram of body weight.

>>914648
I use velosurance, paid like $400 and later got a check for like $3900 when I got caught up in a crash. Sound investment if you're paying for your own gear and like to go fast.

>>914574
KMC X10SL? I just put one on my bike, nice change from silver.

>>914750
I think we was asking your weight sensei :P

>>914750
according to this chart my power output for 5 seconds is mid cat 2, my 1 minute is cat 4ish, and my 5 minute is low cat 5.. then again this is all based off of stravas estimated power out puts so we all know thats buggy as hell... i'd probably be mid cat 5 if I raced and that would mean taking time out of the gym and probably rarely training upper body.

>>914464
i've tried in the past with no luck, see they even post WWE type stuff so really we dont want or need to be associated with them... it would be nice if we had /bike/

>>914750
>Implying 'w' is the symbol for the watt
Re-examine the image you posted.

>>914864
Watts are not a SI unit, and do not have to follow the usage indicated by the SI brochure. Watts are a unit acceptable to use with SI units, but not actually SI units.

>>914878
>Being this wrong
>Implying the SI Brochure says things that it does not
Please read the SI Brochure.

>>915062
I think most of us are wondering if you have even read the SI brochure...

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well m8s, I'm back on the horse

took a break after mtb and cx, looking forward to my first road season

Just got my first power meter and did my first power test yesterday. I'm analyzing the data tomorrow. I know I'm not in top shape (I'm also from sea level and tested at elevation) but I'm cautiously optimistic.

What are your goals /brt/? I'm planning on doing well in collegiate road and hopefully make a good showing at the Tour of the Gila.

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>>914400
sexyyyyyy :D

>>915112
Actually starting to race would be mine.

>>914864
I'd love if you could provide some literature so I can correct myself in the future. Also, feel free to expound on my mistakes instead of just pointing them out. We can all learn a lot from each other on this image board :- )

>>914849
>>914605
133 lbs / 60.3278 kg

>>915062


well, he is technically right. There are only 7 true SI units that can define all other units: meter, kg, second, ampere, kelvin, mole, and candela. The true SI notation for power would be kg*m2*s^-3. Force is mass time acceleration and would defined as a kg(m/s2) which is one newton. Energy is is force over a distance so N*m also known as a joule. power is energy divided by time so it would be joules per second, (N*m)/s. A newton meter is a joule, and a joule per second is a watt. A watt is an SI derived unit, and commonly accepted as the unit for power since the definitions are interchangeable.

>>915127
Fuck homie, r u a grill?
How tall r u
cause like. Im 68kg n mai is like 4.8 :\\\\\\\\\\\\\
6"00 :|||||||||

I made an effort
>>915160
DFont bully pls

>>915156
>>915127
I just don't see how an adult male can weight under 75 kg. I start to feel sick and weak at under 80

>>915178
Depends on height, build, etc. How tall are you?

I'm 1.8 m and have been around 70kg my entire adult life.

>>915178
>>915181
183 cm, 72 kg here. And just like other anon I've been around 70 kg all my adult life. And I'm not even close to being in spooky skellington mode.

>>915156
nah slinging dong
5'10 (1.78m)

>>915178
Everyone is different. There's plenty of cyclists out there under 70kg.

>>915161
>not accounting for avg speed
come on senpai it's important to account for us who can go over 20mph

>>915229
Damn, an underweight BMI. Genuine skellington tier.

Anyone have any tips for what I should focus on for build?

I have pretty good short term power and shitty FTP
10.3 w/kg 1 min
5.6 w/kg 5 minute
4.3 w/kg FTP

I've never done short term intervals so I was surprised when I did 580w for 1 min at 124lbs

It seems like a super useless power to weight profile, way too small watts for crits, no long term power for long climbs, only thing I can think of where this is good is on short punchy climbs.

wat do?

2x20s till I die?

>>915234

Become puncheur / look up the british hill climb TT scene.

>>915230
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
>19.1 BMI
>Normal weight = 18.5–24.9

>>915234
warm up, then 4x20s with 5 minutes rest between each. cool down and drink chocolate milk

my FTP is 4.74 which I feel is ok for now. I'd like to get it to 5 someday. 69kg, 6'1". I'm a skinny boy but I can climb

>>915178
>I start to feel sick and weak at under 80


fucking pansy

>>915241
4x20 of what
FTP or SS?

4x20 FTP intervals is a fuck ton of work

sometimes people graduate to 3x20 @FTP but that is pretty brutal

>>915343
Sorry, I forgot to specify. I do them at LT, sometimes with a jump every 5 minutes.

>>915364
How close are you LT intervals to you VO2Max ones? I think I go too hard when doing them because 2x20s are pretty horrid...I do them to power but maybe I need to go down a bit there for more volume? My VO2MaxHR averages usually around 192 when I'm fit (I haven't ridden a lot since sept and did some yesterday and averaged 200bpm), my LT stuff is around 185-186 bpm when I'm fit...spposedly they should be more like 175bpm which is a lot easier...

>>915366
I always use power for them, not HR. LT is 91%-105% of FTP and VO2 is 106%-120% of FTP. Big difference for 20 minutes!

>>915092
I can assure you, I have read it many times. When I detect any but the basest of errors, I refer to the SI Brochure to ensure that I identify the problem precisely.

>>915127
For the fullest understanding of the proper use of SI prefixes, units and unit symbols, you should consult the SI Brochure. In order to address the particular failing I initially brought your attention to, you need only copy the expression as shown in the image you posted in >>914750

>>915129
>Implying the seven SI base units are the only SI units
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>915156
>Mixing unit systems
>No space between the number and the unit
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>915181
>>915229
>No space between the number and the unit
Please re-read the SI Brochure

I don't think there has ever been a cycling activity posted by a Forever Shinkansen member on Strava that hasn't exceeded 20 m/h.

>>915234
I think you should focus on re-reading the SI Brochure until you can use SI prefixes, units and unit symbols as prescribed by the Brochure.

>>915327
>Mixing unit systems
>Expressing functional threshold power with a unit of 1
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>915670
say it to my face, not online you fucking pansy

is there a mod? can we all ask the mod to ban SI brochure guy?

he shits up every thread

>>915676
He only shits up threads when people seem to have problems following the SI brochure. He's doing God's work tbqh familia.

>tfw didn't get a (You) from SI brochure guy

>>915670
oh fuck off. I don't care about how tall I am in cm. also I'm gonna express my FTP however the fuck I want

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post your ftps brehs

>>915933
Buy me a power meter and I'll tell you ok

>>915229
I know :(
Sorry desu but some people will cheat and i cant be ffed figuring out how to score speed

>>915958
When you say cheat do you mean like, digital EPO or driving up a hill and only recording a descent?

>>915969
You could just manually pause when you're going slow.

>>915970
P. sure (at least for garmins) if you manually pause strava will paint a straight line between the stop and start points and fill in the time.

>>915969
Yes those and mainly adding manual rides.
I considered a speed jersey a while ago but couldnt come up with a way that wouldnt revolve around shifting through piles of information to compare who had the highest average speed in relation to distance ridden or who had say for instant only uploaded one ride that he clocked 100km/h on.

Really theres nothing wrong with avg just rather i couldnt come up with a easy way to compare it competitively

>>915978
I think we can just agree that I'm the fastest and then that's that. So instead of a jersey maybe just a small placard devoted to my speed? Let me know, I'm open to ideas.

>>915933
301 * .95 = 285.95 / 60 = 4.7658333333

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>>916014

>60kg


CMON


pic related, a foto of u. PNASY BITCH.

>>915680
you're obviously si brochure guy because there is not a single person that is amused or enjoys his stupid meme spam

>>914486
Lol get a load of this faggot
>>914504
Very nice mate, very nice.
>>914527
Understated mate, which I think is good.

>>915178
I'm 5'10" and 64kg.

Alberto Contador is 5'9" and 62kg.

So go figure.

>>916014
Hey, mine is 4.74 ayy lmao. 68kg

>>916138
post your strava

this always happens on competitive bike forums

9 out of 10 people say they have cat 1/domestic pro power and then when asked to put up proof the thread dies

>>915178
6'2" 65kg
Are you even a cyclist?

(nah it's pretty unhealthy but the climbing game ridikulus)

196 watts based on a lab test, not racing.
153lb, 5'4. I started at 194lb before I started cycling.

>>916142
the fuk would my strava prove?

I have cat 1 road power because I can climb. I've never raced road, I race cat 1 mountain and A collegiate. I can't sprint for shit. I'm starting road but I'll suck at it because no tactics.

>>916142

I can hit about 40 mph with a 53x11 on the flats with my road bike. I can hold this for a few miles before I burn out. I always end up running out of gearing with a 46t when in route to the trails.. I understand you think you are some eilte rider that 'knows' everything about biking but I think you are just weak as fuck.

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Anyone have a team that really fucks with other riders by attacking at retarded / random times, false breakaways, etc?

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>>916142
>>916014
attached

>>916194
:^) wow thats fast!!

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>>916196
There's a shop team in my area that will show up with like 7 extra guys on the last day of a stage race and just all sit around and block while the shop owner TTs off the front. This is in the 4/5 races though so most people don't even notice.

pic unrelated

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>>916194
big deal i can sustain 115mph going up a 20% grade at 130x9 until the rear sprocket wears down completely

>>916213
Why else would you sponsor 5s as a shop owner?

>>916213
>just all sit around and block while the shop owner TTs off the front

sounds a bit kimo desu

>>916248
How else you gonna get sponsored deals from a shop as a 5?

>>916255
haha, I'm not saying it's bad or anything

That's just exactly what midosuji has his goons do on one of the INTA HIGH stages.

>>915672
The sentiment is reciprocated.

>>915680
Perhaps you used SI prefixes, units and unit symbols as prescribed by the SI Brochure? If so, thank you.

>>915704
You are free to express your height using any multiple or submultiple of the metre as you see fit.

People are likely to misinterpret your functional threshold power if you do not specify a valid unit. I recommend using an SI-derived compound unit of the appropriate dimension.

>>916014
>>916138
>Expressing functional threshold power with a unit of 1
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>916019
>No space between the number and the unit symbol
>Assuming the use of an SI unit where the unit of 1 was specified
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>916101
>>916143
>>916151
>Mixing unit systems
>Using non-SI units not approved for use with the SI
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>916194
>Propagating memes which invoke SI prefixes and unit symbols in a manner not permitted by the SI Brochure
Cease and desist.

>>916220
>Abusing SI prefixes and unit symbols
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>916289
your a bitch.

>>916101
I doubt contador weighs that much during the season. I'm 5'9" and usually get down to 122-124lbs. during the summer and still don't look as lean as him.

>>916212
how much u weigh

I tried strava stalking u but everyone on that seggy but the number 1 spot was 266w and it took him 15:18 to do it

how did you do 301w and take 20 minutes to do it?

>>916327
http://www.strava.com/activities/466105890
133 pounds americano

I didn't begin the test at the start of any segment, just rode through one. That's a manual lap, not anything designated by Strava.

>>914574
What bars are those?

>>916345
nice heart rate bruh.
Im popping around 186 :(
wish i had a non shit heart like uuuuu

any1 else using this guide? lmao... thought it was relly hekpful desu senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVDR0u-deIc

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>>916433
>trek bike on the wall
>black hair
seth is aaron confirmed

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>>916427
my max HR is maybe 191, even though I can't reach it. Maxed out at 189? so far. I simply can't get higher than that.

Maybe I have a Froome heart...

>>916492
Quick google says his max ever seen is 174, so nah :)

>>916493
i assumed as much. Wishful thinking. Just looked at some power data from a mid peloton rider and felt sad

>>916460
there's no way to recover from that position. no way.

>>916536

Maybe he was going fast enough to be launched forward if he slammed on the back brake

Though I doubt it

>>916492
i get to 204 hr during races max. regularly hit 196 as max in training tho if i remember right..


less fatigue = higher hr

more fatigue = lower hr

also more excited/pumped (like during a big effort in race) = highherr hr.

Max HR decreases with fitness too

When I'm out of shape I can hit over 200 bpm

During the season I max out around 191-192

180s bpm when I'm out of form feels like 170s when on form.

It has to do with the amount of blood volume you have. More blood volume=lower heart rates. Froome must have a shit load of blood.

>>916593
I know that, but that doesn't have anything to do with your max. If I were fatigued, my HR would decrease either way, no matter what my max is. Having a high max =/= not fatiguing. I could be putting in the same effort as you at 204 bpm when I'm at 188, etc.
>>916601
I've heard that Froome had some sort of disease that made him generate a lot of blood or something like that (good thing he grew up in Africa, eh) so now he has insane HR

>>916327
What does the 'w' symbolise?

>>916609
>
mad WATTS

>>916613
'W' is the symbol for the watt, so that can't be it.

>>916615
wat

>>916609
'w' is a common japanese emoticon
ㅇㅈㅇ

>>916608
Yeah, I've wondered about that

He had bilharzia which is a parasite that feeds on your blood.

Dunno if having that for years undetected and competing at the same time put so much stress on him that he adapted and started making more RBCs than normal.

>>916609
Weeabo

>>916646
I think that's the prevalent theory. Really cool story regardless

What are you guys favorite trainer workouts?

I like these 30 sec intervals that go
30 sec 100% VO2max 1 min 50% VO2max x10
5 min rest
30 sec 100% VO2Max 30 sec 50% VO2max x10
5 min rest
30 sec 100% VO2max 15 sec 50% VO2max x10
done

also
(5 min zone 2, 5 min FTP) x 5 or 6 times for a nice hour

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>>916872

i dont like any of the trainer workouts

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>BRT
>No DH

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>>916883
I hope you won because that steez is unacceptable

>>916883
Well, I mostly race XC and I'm just starting road this year. I'm cat 1 XC junior, but I guess my race age in 19 now baka. I should see if I can get a pro upgrade lol, I haven't renewed yet

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>>914537
>>914566

Cat 3 road race on Saturday was brutal, half of the field dropped out due to high winds and low temps. I got into a break with a few others and came in second on the uphill finish. Winner is our current state RR champion, so I don't really mind being second to that dude.

Sunday was a short crit and dang I was rusty. Didn't really work hard, just wasn't in the right tactical mindset to position myself well at the end. Ended up 9th, but I think I shook off the cobwebs at least.

I saw someone destroy a new Madone with Enve's today, wish I would of taken pictures for you guys.

>>917154
how they do that

>>917154
I knew it. There's no way from recovering

>>916894
what happens when you go beyond steez

>>917246
you automatically get sponsored

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who wants to go for a ride with me anons

>>915112
>Tour of the Gila
UNM? NMSU? ....NAU even?

>>917154
>state champ
>racing cat 3
Nek level sandbagging

>>917923
It means RR state champ for Cat 3. He won one road race that happened to have a jersey and title attached to it. I can't know if he is sandbagging without seeing how many points he has accumulated, but that "award" alone doesn't automagically make him a sandbagger.

>>917931
Correct.

However, he's already got a fair amount of points and has said he doesn't plan to upgrade anytime soon, and no one can make him because this is his last year as a junior. He's talented as heck and probably just doesn't want to go from being a big fish in a small pond to the opposite.

>>917918
FLC, but I'm not racing with them.

How long do you have to train for to not make a twat out of yourself in a road race?

>>915112
Post strava link to power test :^) ill give u kudos

Goals at to race as much as possible, and not burn out on the quest to become a cat 2. Also want to buy a TT bike, since my teammate decided at the last minute not to sell his. I have more vacation time this year so I want to do a few "bigger" races out of my state. Looking at the Georgia Grand Prix, Gila, and the Tour of the Southern Highlands. Possibly more. Will definitely be racing 2 of the USA Crits series event in Florida, since they're right in my home town.

>>918011
In USA non hill regions just a couple months serious training if you have been reletively fit for at least a few years. I'd say 5 months 'training' from a low lvl fitness to hold your own in a cat 5. 18 months training and you should be able to win a cat 4 if you are a good racer.

Anything over cat 3 you can't really tell because it's as much a matter of skill as fitness. There is a lot of cat 3s who are the same fitness as cat 4s though. Just tactics etc

>>918045
I'm in England and it's hilly everywhere really, not alps tier though but constantly up and down.

Are the categories the same internationally?

https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/search/article/roadst_Road-Categories_Classifications

>>917931
You americans have state champs for different grades? But doesnt everyone realise that no one cares unless you are top of A grade/Cat 1 etc?

>>918048
Don't you realize no one other than some local racers even care for more than 10 minutes about who the Cat 1 champ is?
Does the existence of a Cat 3 championship detract from the "value" of a Cat 2 or Cat 1 championship?

Bought a Stages last week but just found out about a better deal on a PM. They say they won't accept returns if it's been installed on a bike (ie pedals installed). Can they check that or is it just bs?

>>918077
How much of a better deal?

who /doesntmindthetrainer/ here? It can give a more accurate interval workout with a very controlled setting which I like. Riding outside (in the winter) is great for group rides/base/Z2 but i'd rather do foundation/building intervals on the trainer.

>>918095
Right there with you bro. I don't mind the trainer at all, I go into my trance like state without worrying about traffic or whatever

>>918095
I do z2s on the exercise bike because I can watch the tele that way

>>918081
$280 cheaper. Friend in the industry.

>>918191
I'd just see if you can get a decent price for it on eBay.

>>918067
Its pretty much the participation award of racing

>>918077
So easy to check dude

>>918046
If you're talking GB then you'll need a full year of training to be competitive, maybe less if you come from an endurance racing background and have a smart head on your shoulders.

>>918256
How come? Higher standards?

>>918242
>participation award
>beat all other participants in your field
>only one award


yeah dude we're all state champs, since we raced the state championship.

>tfw you just start riding again after your rest period and then you immediately get sick

>>918282
It would take a while to explain fully, but the main reason is that most races you'll do at the start will be 3/4, and cat 3 has a massive spread of ability, ranging from guys who could be 1's/elites/are ex elites but are only 3's because they don't race more than once or twice a year in local events, to total beginners who just lucked in to points by winning cat 4 circuit races against fat sportivists. Also Cat 3 has lots of young riders on their way up, who will also often be riding at a very high standard, and may very well have been national / international level juniors.

But if you train your arse of 20h a week, and get lean as fuck, and i mean lean as fuck, none of this "muh health" "muh metabolism" "muh big boned", then after one year you should smash it.

>>918304
That sounds stupid why don't they change the categories?

>>918313
Racing is incredibly unprogressive in many ways

>>918313
BC is dumb and literally only cares about its handful of chosen olympic "golden riders" at any time, and using sportives and races to fund them.

>>918315
>>918329
Does that mean it's impossible to progress to cat 2 or what?

>>918331
Only smart, strong riders who do lots of races progress to cat 2 in my experience.

Either that or those who just get really lucky, which does happen.

So if you want to get there, you'd better start training up, gaining up, and leaning out.

>>918332
Do you have to be Froome-tier skelly to progress?

>>918337
you need to be lean, around 10% b/f, ideally less. I would say someone like Cancellara or Boonen has the ideal body for UK racing (note, they are much bigger than Froome, Contador et al, but still very lean).

Don't get so hung up on it that you lose power, but it's important to remember that cycling is all about efficiency, and less b/f = huge efficiency gains.

How you actually look is immaterial (Contador for example looks like Fabu would smash him in a TT, but the 2009 tour says otherwise)

Also get very aero, stretch a lot, do plenty of core work. So many strong riders just haemorrhage speed by having shitty, non aero positions. The "pick a fast position and adapt" mentality springs to mind here.

>>918339
Is racing fun though, or does it become just MUH TIMES MUH GAINS?

>>918355
I'll tell you my story and let you make your own decisions -

I started cycling for fun, now I've become near neurotic about it. I get my fun from having agonisingly painful training sessions. It's nowhere near as easy as just bimbling around the lanes having a chat, especially if I'm slogging out base miles in shit winter weather.

BUT

Now I have discovered that there is no finer feeling than seeing it all come together, getting it right, blowing up the field and winning a race. It really makes it all worth it, and for this alone, I love cycling, she is the one for me.

>>918357
I'm new to cycling and nowhere near being able to do it competitively, but was just wondering if it would be something fun. The atmosphere and all that looks great. I'm not a competitive person at all but I can see how it'd be good testing yourself really.

Do you think it's something every cyclist should at least try? Or can it ruin cycling and just turn it into what you say, an autistic number crunching strategic thing?

>>918358
I'm a very competitive person, and I really love the feeling of smashing everyone, making them suffer, and being the best, that's why I like it.

Racing isn't for everyone, and I would advise against doing it unless you really want to. A race is a fierce place and you've really got to want to be there. if you're just a chill non competitive person then I would recommend audax, or some kind of offroad riding, and there's certainly no shame in not being a racer, or even never being a racer, contrary to what some say.

>>918361
Fair enough then! I'm planning to get into sportives, one near me in May that I'll do, they seem fun.

I'm a fat shit (6'3" 285ibs) and I wanna lose weight. I dream of racing someday bit its gonna be a long, tough road. Anybody got some advice on training for a newb?

>>918365
Cycle more eat less

>>918362
Sportives are full of wannabe racer middle aged men who are too slow to race, and get btfo by actual racers, shattering their fragile egos, so they try and race sportives.

riding standards are getting lower and lower in sportives for this reason, so I would be very careful. This is why, if you're into road riding but not racing, I would recommend audax. Far better community, far safer, and some really cool events out there (like paris - brest - paris) that actually present a challenge of sorts, not like these "epic" 100 mile sportives people are whoring out for money.

>>918368
Wew there's a 100km one near me on the 20th of Feb.

Not ready for that desu lel, further I've done is 52km.

Does it matter if sportives are full of slow people? Are they not fun?

>>918367
Obviously. Should I be focusing on anything in particular as far as training? I'd like to try an event 60 miles or longer by the end of summer.

>>918370
It's not the slow people, there's nothing wrong with being slow, it's the wannabe fast people who have convinced themselves a sportive is a race, and they ride dangerously.

>>918373
Ah right, they sound like twats.

>>918370
He's exaggerating m8. He has such a fragile hipster ego he gets triggered whenever he sees anyone trying hard, because to a hipster if you can't be at the top, you shouldn't try at all. This is why hipsters gravitate towards smaller niche disciplines or try to separate themselves from the norm not by trying hard and losing, but instead by seeking activities the hipster considers more hardcore, but objectively difficult to make a direct comparison in difficulty.

Honestly, this hipster underachievement attitude is killing cycling.

>>918375
They are, and really they've started ruining what would have been fun, inclusive events otherwise.

>>918378
m8 treating an open road sportive like a race, nearly hitting cars, crashing in to novice riders or causing them to crash, swearing at traffic or other riders for no reason, this is nothing to do with ego, it's just people being plain dangerous.

7/10 you got a half hearted response

>>918375
Almost no one thinks a sportive is a race where you have to win. To a lot of people, it's an event where you put in your best effort and try to do your best.

>>918379
Nice exaggerations. You really convinced me since I'm a naive rider who has never ridden in any sort of organized ride before. Let me worship you and take your platitudes as gospel.

>>918380
>Almost no one thinks a sportive is a race where you have to win.

If only that were true, there are people who genuinely believe sportives are races. And I've seen first hand the damage they can cause through their reckless behaviour.

The attitude you purport, one of stiving for best personal effort, isn't one I think anyone should look down on, and I don't like the elitist amateur racers who somehow think they're above recreational riders.

>>918385
I don't know where you've been riding m8 but all the sportives I've done have had far too many morons riding them like races for me to be comfortable.

>>918388
Sure thing, m80. You are 100% right. There's no way you just aren't a hipster shit who got btfo by middle aged men in a sportive, shattering your fragile ego, so you try do audax where you get a gold star sticker for just finishing. And you totally did the PBP and got the biggest gold star sticker of them all.

>>918391
you've just made it too obvious now, which is a shame really, there was some excellent potential for high quality trolling.

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>>918392
Here's your gold star sticker, hipster scum.

>>918393
let me break down why you're trolling was bad

>blatant insults - "hipster shit" "shattering your fragile ego"

>criticizing audax for handing out a "gold star sticker" just for finishing, when sportives hand out medals

some careful tailoring of that response would have actually elicited a serious response from me, just tighten it up next time and you might be trolling with the best of them one day

>>918362
Here's the thing about audax. There is an actual difference and audax is more laid back.

You pick the event based on your desired challenge level, rather than using a standard length event to do your best and complete as fast as you can, because audax is based on completion. That means the strongest riders are trying to do it at a comfortable pace, and the people trying their hardest are at the back. Lengths vary from sportive lengths, and instead of going faster like you would with a sportive, they get longer.

By no means should you avoid sportives just because some guy is trying to justify his anti-try-hard attitude and being mad at MAMILs. Note that a lot of hipstershits are attracted to audax, because it lets them ride steel rando bikes and wool clothes at a challenge level they don't feel threatened by. A hipster will find himself at home with other hipsters in audax. Sportives are still far safer and kinder than an actual race, but there's a higher proportion of lycra. They're nowhere as bad as the guy pretends they are. He just doesn't like that people try to go fast and he is surrounded by lycra.

>>918394
>blatant insults - "hipster shit" "shattering your fragile ego"
>Sportives are full of wannabe racer middle aged men who are too slow to race, and get btfo by actual racers, shattering their fragile egos, so they try and race sportives.
That's actually from you, you self-oblivious m80.

>criticizing audax for handing out a "gold star sticker" just for finishing, when sportives hand out medals
Yes, they're both shit for plebs, what's your point?

>>918395
I'll do the sportive and make my own decision. It looks fun.

>>918397
Good for you.

can someone give me the low down on canadian racing

preferably around calgary

Does this video hold even a grain of truth? Is this routine any good at all..? BRT advice PLEASE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIjctlKfRbA

>>918358
>I'm not a competitive person at all but I can see how it'd be good testing yourself really.
Time trials would probably suit you better than bunch racing. You don't need to worry about being up to snuff before taking part in one of those either.

>>918371
Start by building up how hard you can ride for an hour, then introduce progressively shorter interval workouts.

>>918481
Wii fit and Zumba is better

>>918599
Thanks, brother.

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>>918480
pls someone help

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bought a bright orange no name carbon TT bike off the swap meet for under $400 without wheels. Sram rival, uberhund bars. Stoked. Set out to not spend a ton on a bike that I'll barely get to race, and I got just that. Team confirmed to loan me a disk/deep front to race on.

Anyone here have TT bikes? post 'em

i love riding in New Mexico tbqh

>>919097

Let's see yours first faggot

Always humbling that even when I come 2nd in my C-Grade race there's always B and A above that.

Long way to go.

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so?,, i dont hear about electronics?,
,,,Transqutanius stimulation can grow muscle in ,, well, ME.,feel,my Butt!
, itso strong it can make muscle faster then ligaments,, so Tearing from bone is danger.,

,,,imagineyour sponsor having the "Volume?, "CLIMB!!"

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>>919097

>>919097
his riding garb is decidedly pleb, 2bh

>>916593
>204 max heart rate
Are you a teenager anon?

>>919225
Not him but the highest I've seen mine at was 195 and I'm almost 20

>>919225
>>919231
saw 172 yesterday on the treadmill for 15 minutes, I'm 35

>>918393
Dude the fact that you're actually calling audax hipster while defending sportives(which are fucking lame) show's that your painfully unhip yourself.

I bet you're actually intimidated by people that you perceive as being cooler than you so you try to dismiss them with meaningless pejoratives.

>>918378
>hipster underachievement attitude is killing cycling.

KEK

You should see how much weed I smoke on my 10mph average century rides

>>919715
>being slow

why live

roll call for boyos gonna be at Tour of the Gila

>cat
>how you think you'll do

>>919712
>Dude the fact that you're actually calling audax hipster while defending sportives(which are fucking lame) show's that your painfully unhip yourself.
>hipster audist gets assblasted when identified as an audistic hipster

>I bet you're actually intimidated by people that you perceive as being cooler than you so you try to dismiss them with meaningless pejoratives.
>hipster audist tries to shit all over something with his ironic opinion of betterer-taste-than-thou calls kettle black when called out for it

>>919689
Might want to get your heart checked for AF and other factors lad, because that is pretty freaky HR for your age.

>>919736
No it's not? Even using the outdated 220-age gives you 185 as a "theoretical" max. It's basically threshold?

My dad did 175 average 186 max over a 35 minute ride the other day and he's turning 60 this year.

>>919715
>You should see how much weed I smoke over the course of a 400-day long ride
Quite a lot, I would imagine.

>>919790
>century
>400 days
Try 36,524 days

>>919790

> he doesn't know what a century ride is

I held 193bpm for an hour last year (26/7)

Jus saiyan

>>919865
Holy shit. Age, weight and height?

My ex gf could do that, but we're pretty young and she's small... and a girl...

>>919865
Sounds dangerous desu

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>>919871
Is this your gf?

>>919871

26, just before my 27th birthday, 69kg, 6'2"

>>919885
>is that meant to be a cycling cap
>hi vis jacket that clearly is unaero as fuck
>kneepads
>tail not tucked in for aero
>ears not tied & tucked for aero
>hasn't even shaved, those hairs can't be very aero
>how are you going to clip in those flexy paws
2/10 would not ride with tbqhwyfam

>>919890
whoa. I'm a similar build (68-69kg, 6'1') but I'm only 18. My max is 189 and I've hit it once, for like 5 seconds, in the uphill sprint of my life

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>>919917
>in the uphill sprint of my life

iktf, when do we reach the top of the hill?

>>917154
god the kid in the thumbnail is annoying irl

>>919185
>triathlon setup

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>>919918
never, brother

keep climbing

>>918480
Every province does their shit differently.
You have to look up how it works in Alberta.

>>919820
A ride of 100 km, duh

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>>919918
>he still thinks the hill has a top

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>>914063
I thought it was impossible IRL, but what the fuck caleb ewan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsB_Ad_0p9g

>>920091
it's 100 miles actually

>>920368
rule 24 m8

That said it's easy to avoid confusion if you specify imperial or metric

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>>920345
>can't hang in the vuelta last year
>does this shit this year
hm

>>920378
You know he won a stage at the vuelta before pulling out, right?

Like, sure he tends to fade out over a long tour but that doesn't mean can't sprint with the best of them.

>>920385
I know he did, sprinter consistency just makes me lol sometimes.

He's really young too. He's got a long career ahead.

>>920369
what is rule 24

>>920392
>Speeds and distances shall be referred to and measured in kilometers.

>>920394
yes but a century has always traditionally been 100 miles

>>920395
Maybe in third world countries that still use imperial units. In any civilized place a century refers to 100 km.

>>920436
>If we say that the standard meter in Paris is one meter long it isn't the same sense of "one meter" as when we say this cloth is "one meter long." The standard meter sets the standard. What would it mean to say that it is inaccurately measured? It is what sets the standard of perfection. On the other hand, we can say that the cloth was inaccurately measured.

>>919225
I'm 18 fagget, My uncles are both physically fit and have MHRs of around 195


Also my rhr was 32 when I was fittest, my mum has a rhr of 55 and she isn't fit in the slightest, literally just genetics. Also when I was 13 my MHR was 204 as well, 5 years w/o decline.

>>920873
should've added that they're both in their late 40s

>>914063
>Actually a bikefag
>see thread about racing fredbikes

Ayy lmao,this board has been taken over from n00b s whomever been banned from (any cycle forum ever)

>>920873
Weird you're an outlier in both then.

Last year when I was 19 in one of my Kin classes I did a max HR test and reached 179, with a resting HR around 55-60. I guess genes plays a large role.

>>920878

Oohh, everyone stop and look at this ACTUAL BIKEFAG

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Did 30 miles yesterday, like 6th time doing that long since second surgery, woke up and my entire knee joints both felt like they were on fire, 5 hours later and they feel pretty normal lukcily, gonna try to get 45 mins on rollers


Also remembering before the surgery one of my consults said that I could get knee pain for over a year after the surgeries lmao. If any1 has had a cortisone shot and had a cortisone flare that is about what my knees feel like all evening/night n early morning

anyway, think ill be able to hit up some races once the racing season starts and maybe even the teams training camp in March..

ok peace out bye hommies :D

oi m8s I want to race eh

bunch of teammates are doing Valley of the Sun, but I aint much for flatlandin

who /climb/ here

ded thred

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any of u fellas going to race tour of the southern highlands? It's in Georgia next month.

https://www.usacycling.org/events/getflyer.php?permit=2016-113

going for them jerseys boi gonna smash that merckx tt

>>922482
how are southern/eastern RRs?

>>919890
>>919917
>69kg, 6'2"
>(68-69kg, 6'1')

MY SKELLY BROTHERS. 6'2" 65kg here.

>>923489
>Mixing unit systems
>No space between the number and the unit symbol
You have no brothers here - not until you re-read the SI Brochure.

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Reviving this thread because I've been reading the SI Brochure between intervals.

anyone racing yet? 2nd in Saturday's road race and 1st in the time trial. I bought this ugly used bike off of the internet for $400 and borrowed some wheels from my team. Fitting processed included guessing seat height and slamming the stem as much as possible at the time.

They did podiums like 30 minutes after the TT so my competitors had already changed back into their human clothes.

How do I get my pulse above 140 on a trainer? I feel like my legs are trying to give up the moment I go above 130. When I bike outside I have no issue averaging 150-160 during my ride.

And finally how do I beat hills? On an average training ride of 30km I climb at most 300m. This causes me to drop to half speed or less facing a hill. The hill can be 20m climb over about a 400m distance or so. When I'm up I'm so exhausted I need a minute or two to recover.

>>924327
>How do I get my pulse above 140 on a trainer? I feel like my legs are trying to give up the moment I go above 130. When I bike outside I have no issue averaging 150-160 during my ride.
20 fans.

>And finally how do I beat hills? On an average training ride of 30km I climb at most 300m. This causes me to drop to half speed or less facing a hill. The hill can be 20m climb over about a 400m distance or so. When I'm up I'm so exhausted I need a minute or two to recover.
Practice

>>924332
>20 fans.
Well that would explain a lot
>Practice
Not enough hills what to do? Any alternative training that will make it easier?

>>924335
Turn around when it gets flat, and go over the hill again, and again, and again.

>>924337
>steepest hills are in the city
I'm going to have to find a hill where people won't recognize me. Should I go high cadence >90 and aim for maximum pulse? Or just fuck that stuff and brute force it?

>>924327
A space is required between the number and the unit symbol.

>>924340
>Should I go high cadence >90 and aim for maximum pulse

Spinning is winning, don't know how maximum you're defining maximum but if you do it will burn you out fast.

>>924305
That's a pimpin bike you got there

>>916194
Oh its you again

>>914122
Been trying for a couple of days to get one of these treads to stick. /sp/ /asp/, /n/ all shit on it.
Good luck.

>>914574
Did my first race on the 7th Feb. Was absolute shit. 64/75. Ugh.
Worked my ass off over the winter, well...as much as I could.
Next race is on the 28th. Flat course for once, so hopefully that will give my confidence a much needed boost.

>>917162
The kid needs positive reinforcement right now.
I believe he can recover. He'll be fine.

Hey m8s. Just finished two weeks of some fucking brutal intervals (for my body type, i'm >>919917). I've never raced road so I was given these "crit specific" intervals that are just one big set of 30x30on 30off. "on" is spinning up from low cadence to high at full gas. Shit destroys me on the trainer/flat road. I am meant to go uphill. Hope it helps my critting though so I don't flop like a fish.

I race XC mtb though, so I kind of have that sort of power. idk. we'll see.

>>914126
Even with cruise control you still have to steer

any of you guys racing yet

>>925818

3 weekends down so far.

https://www.strava.com/activities/477808225
https://www.strava.com/activities/476905610
https://www.strava.com/activities/492990455
https://www.strava.com/activities/492990439
https://www.strava.com/activities/493845089

Anyone coming to Tampa for the start of the USA CRIT series in March? So stoked to race in my hometown.

>>926093
>climbing in florida

what the FUGG

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>>926175
"""""climbing"""""
t. Colorado (I could even get away with saying t. Minnesotan)

Someone is selling a secondhand stages crank at a very reasonable price. Right group level, right length.

Assuming he's willing to post it interstate (aus) any reason not to go for it?

>>926278
Depends on the condition and price. If you don't have a power meter and its measuring power with a consistent grouping definitely do it. Don't buy if you wanna use it for track.

>>926281
>measuring power with a consistent grouping

What does this mean?

All the ad states is "less than 1000km of use. Works great." in terms of condition.

And it's for road not track so that won't be a problem.

>>926206
I am a scrub for asking, I know, but what is "t." supposed to be an abbreviation for?

>>926295
It means "regards" in finnish apparently.

Based fins giving us only the highest quality memes.

>>926295
>>926299
It's abbreviation from "terveisin" which translates to regards or best regards as anon already said. Used pretty much in the same way as you'd use br.

t. a Finn

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>>926299
>>926362
I always wondered how did this end up on international imageboards, it makes no sense in other languages

t. another Finn

>>926394
Much anticipated sequel to Spurdo

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holy chit guys, I'm a training racer

I done 120km or so on the weekend .... biggest ride of my life. now i know what its like to be in tour de france? i think. im ready to go pro.

peace ouit bye.

>>926409
love your spirit im putting together a team sponsored by my local performance bike and wawa id love to have u as our sprinter let me know asap will provide all transportation and lodging

>>926492
aight homie, helicopter should have room to land in the field across the road from my house... lmk if it wont be able to land safely

>>925818
Have weekly crits here, just won my first C-Grade. Feels good

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>>914063


Is this video accurate? I'd been researching about the topic for weeks before I found this.. Found it really informative and helpful. Not sure if it's accurate, although the guy seems very charismatic and trustworthy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckBPhhra0Ac


vid related

>>926806
seth/aaron is a qt, as is that 'cub' bitch who's all over his videos.

I'd take them both, together or separately.

>>926806

>trek bike with white front brake + shimano group
>seth rides a trek with white front brake + shimano group

seth youve changed a lot, did you start bulking because of the knee injury? have you accepted defeat by packing on all this race-losing mass? please make a video talking about cycling and how you overcame knee cancer

i never expected you to become a yt famous protein powder selling star but I'm really happy for you

>>926822
>>trek bike with white front brake + shimano group
>>seth rides a trek with white front brake + shimano group


fuark, do I know you irl?


Actually had went from 143lbs-188lbs in less than 10 months, down to 165lbs now lel, still trying to drop a bit more but balancing building back up in terms of riding and cutting is a bit tough.. I expect to race this year tho, will really see what I'm good for during training camp March 10th.

>>926829
no, just a big fan who also uses his real name on shinkansen. look forward to seeing how lean and vascular you can get, keep me updated with pics and vids.

Anyone here use zwift?

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>>926947

PROGRESS PICTURE ONE WOO BABY HUGE PUMP

How do you get into racing? I've been biking for a while I have been told I have potential and should try to join a group ride or something to get to know some local teams but I'm not sure where to start.

>>927061
Look up your local competitive cycling groups. Go on their rides, work up to some drop rides and see how it goes. They'll know the best races to start with so just talk with them.

>>927061
Ask at an LBS about clubs in your area. Failing that, your national cycling federation most likely maintains a list of clubs you can peruse.

How long are various races and what is a good time to aim for?

Don't put me down for being new, I just want to compare my daily ride with what might be expected.

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>>927164

It really depends on the course and the conditions.

CX races are usually 30 minutes tops. Any decent road race will be at least an hour. Crits are around 30-40 minutes.

Distance and time spent training isn't really relevant to racing as much as you might think. You are going to be responding to attacks and constant accelerations instead of thinking about the distance. In longer races you will be considering the distance left to go to pace yourself depending on what group you end up in. The idea is to dump everything you have right before the finish if you are lining up at the front for a sprint at the end. For a newer person you wont even have to worry about that. Your mentality should either be racing to win or racing just to finish. You will know what mode you are in when you are actually out there based on how you feel.

Train hard, race easy (hard).

Some of the old fucks around here do group rides that are pretty much full-gas for 120 minutes. Harder than any race I've been in and I'm a literal skeleton.

>>926987
I love Zwift.
I just finished the 12wk Winter Plan and feel pretty good about it.

>>925818
Did my first race of the season back on the 7th Feb.
Have a Road Race on the 28th Feb and 6th Mar.

>>927207
I'm doing 20km in an hour. Should I increase that?

Someone please make sense of my data. Values are obtained from an actual lab

They told me my ftp is 200 and i just did a test at 210. He said my lactate is low, never going above 5. My breathing was really hard, as if im going all out. I was also struggling to keep the cadence after 25 mins. It will take them time to process my data, any scientists here? What am i supposedto focus on for training?

>>927164
>How long are various races
BMX races are usually 300 m to 400 m long and last for no more than about 40 s.
Track races are from 500 m (for women) up to around 30 km. Somewhere between 33 s and 40 min would be a good time.
Cross-country races usually last for no longer than 90 min. The length of the race is heavily dependent on the nature of the course.
Downhill races are between 1.5 km and 6 km long and last between 2 min and 7 min.
Road races are usually between 40 km and 5700 km long. Typically they will last between 50 min and 238 h.

>>927322
It depends on what your goals are.

>>927386
>FTP, lactate expressed in dimensionless constants
>Pluralising unit symbols
I'm afraid your data is incomprehensible.

>>927395
>It depends on what your goals are.
Weight loss and benching myself against the pros (not that I will be close).

>>927398
>Weight loss
Eat less. Use MyFitnessPal, but cut their estimated energy expenditure from sports by at least half.

>benching myself against the pros
Anyone who can't do 30 km in an hour over flat roads is unfit.

>>927404
> MyFitnessPal
Have been since December 1st and I've gained 10lbs :(

>>927408
Are you weighing and logging everything you eat and drink?
Have you made sure that the data for your most frequently eaten foods is correct?
Is your stated activity level genuinely representative of your daily activities (if in doubt, go lower)?
If so, adjust your energy goal down, it's not hard.

>>927423
Logging everything, yup. Sometimes I have to guess how many calories are in something. Just reduced my daily calorie intake by 400,

>>927216
How's your FTP going? I feel like it's hard to do an easy or reco ride on zwift, I always have to go for that Jersey one more time.

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>>927427
>>927408

If you aren't weighing or measuring your chit with scales and... scoops and chit then you'll have a hard time logging cals accurately.


Best way to lose weight I found is to eat clean as fuck. Something most cyclists aren't familiar with. I'm talking eating no junk at all.

Here is a list of foods you should be eating

>canned tuna/salmon and sardines
>plain steamed broccoli
>plain microwaved/boiled potatoes
>oranges/tangerines/clementines
>a very small serving (<30g for minerals like zinc/vitamin E) of nuts a day
>plain oats
I guess if you have a super long ride planned you can eat extra potatoes or oatmeal (plain brah) and maybe 2-3 of a high cal fruit like bananas.


But let's be serious here, a 700kcal deficit isn't gonna mess up bike training much. You're just a PANSYYYYYYYYYYYYYY L-0L

>>927643
chit?

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>>927644

means shit bro, i was trying to cool and you fucked it all up what the fuk man

>>927645
lol

>>927643
>I can't cook
>it's still fine since healthy food is supposed to taste like shit

>>927953
>implying any of that taste like shit

Also I'd rather spend 5 minutes fixing each meal than 45 minutes fixing each meal to get a little bit better "taste" lel. Thinking every meal should have an amazing taste and give you an orgasm each time you eat is precisely why 90% of the population is obese l amao

>>927960
>canned tuna/salmon
>plain boiled potatoes
>plain oats
This diet is horrible and it tastes like shit. The only thing you're missing is boiled chicken. Tuna, salmon, potatoes and oats can be delicious if they're properly prepared and just as healthy as your shitty versions. In fact I made just yesterday a healthy and delicious batch of pasta sauce that had tuna in it. Yeah it took longer than 5 minutes but our priorities are obviously not the same. I like cooking and don't mind spending time making food that is tasty. For you it's obviously something that you have to do in order to survive.

>i don't care about "taste"
Confirmed for forcing yourself to eat shitty food because you honestly think tasty food is automatically bad for you. Or you know your self control is so bad that you can't stop eating if you accidentally encounter good food. Don't really know which is the sadder scenario.

>90% of population obese because tasty food
No they're obese because they have no self control and eat obscene amounts of food. Not because the food they eat tastes good. Tbh the food your average obese person eats tastes like shit. It's all fat and salt.

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>>927978


no offenes, you sound like a complete fucking pansy bro///

>>927605
Funny enough, my FTP has gotten worse (virtually) but I am stronger in the real world.
I use a Fluid2 Trainer, and the harder you pedal the more resistance you get. So, as I get stronger the harder it gets...but, with the way it reads Watts (no power meter), it's hard to accurately tell what's going on.

Doing Easy days and Recovery days fucking suck on Zwift. When you're making yourself stay within the pre-determined watts and people are flying by you, it sucks.

For the longer days (2.5 to 3+ hours) I do those outdoors or, I throw in the Bkool Simulator and ride in Spain or some shit.

>>927986
big legs =/= strong

>>928693

funny math signs equals slash equals smart!

2nd Race of the Season was just as big of a shitshow than the 1st.
First turn, 1.5k down the road...dropped chain. Spent the rest of the race playing catch-up...90% of the course was crosswinds or headwinds with a brief period of tailwind.
Lame.
Next race is this weekend. Hopefully, 3rd times a charm and I can get all this early season bullshit out of the way, so when the "real" races start up, I can actually compete.

Got sick today out of nowhere, hopefully with a good night's sleep it's gone by tomorrow. Missed some threshold work and I have spring break coming up. Super excited to do some fast group rides lads


>>928781
literally not even what I was going for, but whatever.