/gag/ - General Aviation General

So I got to do a full ILS approach after my checkout flight and I fucking nailed it, granted the instructor took the radios and I just flew the plane. Even got some actual time during it.

Looking forward to starting instrument training

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>>1065218
Let's do hangar flying stories/greentext/baconpost

tell about your most butthole puckering incident.

This one time, I was riding as safety pilot for a guy I went to high school with, I was not yet an instructor and my buddy was a freshly minted private pilot (how he passed his checkride boggles the mind).

He had just done a stop-and-go, when on upwind the tower asked us to turn an early right crosswind for traffic. My buddy yanks and banks left... directly into the traffic.

I learned the meaning of multitasking that evening. I simultaneously grasped the control yolk, called "My controls" and ate my own underwear but with my rectum instead of my mouth.

The traffic was a sheriff's helicopter who had just lifted off from their pad, and I'm pretty sure the deputy flying the helicopter could see into our cockpit because he keyed up and says "Hey, You boys be more careful" as if he saw the two of us

After we landed I asked my buddy why he had pulled the whole fighter pilot move with the turn in the wrong direction, his response "well I couldn't see the traffic, so I wanted to turn as fast as I could to avoid him"

We're still friends. He's an engineer for Lockheed Martin now even tho he doesn't know his right from his left.

>>1065228
"Yeah, fucking nailed that ILS!"
>wasn't wearing a hood

Really tho, nice job. Beginners luck is a real thing, so don't let it go to your head yet!
You'll inevitably have to go missed because you pegged a needle at some point, and if you never do it means your instructor isn't making it hard enough!

>>1065231
I tried my hardest to not cheat and just focus on the instruments but yeah haha there was definitely some beginner's luck involved

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>>1065218
Finished my Long XC a few weeks ago and now officially ready to take the written and then the practical!

Did 4.0 from El Monte to Santa Maria to Oxnard and back. Also got some nice views..

>>1065230
Had a thunderstorm crop up right over me a couple of years back, during my second solo, no less. That was rather high pucker factor, especially in an R22 helicopter

>>1065230
You would be amazed by the number of NASA engineers and Caltech graduates who can't figure out which side is the correct side of the sun shade... I come out and regularly find the non-shiny side up...

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>>1065228
If you think you nailed it then you need to hold yourself to a higher standard.

Glider flyer here.
My highest puckers have come due to a snapped tow rope on take off,

A sudden thunderstorm that leaped up, had to race it to the field with 6 other pilots in pattern.

Cx in Nevada, ridge running, when a private jet, came screaming in over the mountain top. That prompted me to add a solar cell to make sure my transponder battery never runs out again.

>>1065516
>>1065231
Come on now, let the lad be confident, instrument training can be difficult and it helps to have a bit of confidence going into it.
>you ain't seen nothing yet kid, you didn't do this and that, so you got off easy
Not every approach is non-precision single engine partial panel with a full bladder.

>>1065537
>That prompted me to add a solar cell to make sure my transponder battery never runs out again.
I don't know much about aviation, but how does a transponder battery go flat mid-flight? Presumably it gets charged before each flight, and a glider can't stay up for that long.

>>1065588
In the hands of a competent pilot a glider can stay up pretty much indefinitely. It's common for experienced pilots to get a tow after breakfast, eat lunch while flying, and not come back until it's dinner time.

>>1065588
Current record is 1700km in distance in a single flight by a glider.

>>1065588
In a glider, there is no power generation, so everything is powered by battery.


A lot of gliders still have lead acid batteries, which are heavy ( glider pilots hate weight)and not very energy dense. So a lot of gliders only have 1 or 2 motercycle sized batteries.

Until recently you didnt need a transponder in a glider, but it has always been a good idea . See the 2009 carson city incident, where a glider and jet collision happened.

But as a glider pilot you are powering , radio, logger , gps, vario, if your on a long xc flight, it is very possible to ru. Your battery flat.


Many glider pilots are switching to LiFE batteries that are much more energy dense and therefore lighter than a lead battery.

I have friends who fly out of reno/tahoe that will be up for 5-12 hours at a time. The only limit is daylight and their own comfort.

Some crazy sobs fly from reno to vegas,

>>1065669
>I have friends who fly out of reno/tahoe that will be up for 5-12 hours at a time. The only limit is daylight and their own comfort.
Neat.

>>1065669
>Many glider pilots are switching to LiFE batteries that are much more energy dense and therefore lighter than a lead battery.
I'm surprised that's happening so slowly; I would have guessed glider pilots would have been some of the first to jump onto modern batteries. Particularly LiFePO4, but even NiMH would still be a step up from SLA in terms of specific energy.

>But as a glider pilot you are powering , radio, logger , gps, vario, if your on a long xc flight, it is very possible to ru. Your battery flat.
How much power does all that draw?

>That prompted me to add a solar cell to make sure my transponder battery never runs out again.
Could you go into more detail about that?
In particular, how big is the cell, and how well does it work while flying (altitude, attitude, weather, temperature, etc)?

Sorry for being nosey. Aircraft electronics and power is a subject I really know little about.

>>1065720
2-3 amps with a transponder
1-2 amps with

Strobl solar models and chargecontroller

>>1065725
1-2 with out a transponder

>>1065725
>2-3 amps with a transponder
Assuming that's 12V, that's not very much power.

You guys have any good material that you would recommend to prep for an Instrument written exam? I'm gonna take it within these couple weeks.

>>1065737
ASA Prepware. keep taking the quizes until you're getting >90%s everytime. Start now

>>1065720
Saving weight with gliders isn't as big a fuss as you might think. Competitive soaring moved away from endurance a long time ago (since a modern glider in the hands of a skilled pilot can go for as long as the pilot can bear), so nowadays most of the competitions focus on speed, where extra weight and ballast can actually HELP.
>>1065588
>a glider can't stay up for that long
HOHOHOHOH

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Would a powered parachute be my best bet for a cheater aircraft? I know they aren't very robust, but I want to own an aircraft of my own and I don't make that much money.

Also, any autogyro owners here? I'd love to fly in one someday.

>>1065752
*cheap, not cheater

>>1065752
Those fuckin autos seem like deathtraps to me. Also, powered parachutes can get pretty pricey, I'd just look for a cub or a 150 or something if I'm gonna spend $25,000

>>1065737
Shepard Air. Seriously.

>>1066064

Serioulsy indeed. I wish I heard about them for my instrument and commercial used them for my CFI, CFII, FOI, AGI, & IGI. I got above a 90% on them all

>>1066064
>>1066126
Thirded for Shepard Air.

>>1066064
>>1066127
How does it compare to ASA?

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>>1065752
There's plenty of ultralights, you just can't do a whole hell of a lot with them other than putt around in a small area.

Of course, if that's your goal, they're extremely easy to get into in the US, as they've got no licensing required, and there's a huge variety of them

I'd love having one of these, personally

>>1065737
Wouldn't there be tons of shit for that on Sporty's?

>>1066144

ASA has like over 1000 questions. Shepard has maybe 300 because they know which ones commonly get asked.

Also with Shepard if you get a question on your test you haven't seen before you get your money back

>>1066155

I forgot to add that you really don't learn anything with Shepard. Its just rote learning to memorize the answers so you pass the test.

You'll need to get the knowledge through another means such as books, a ground school course, or one on one instruction.

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I can count on one hand the number of times I've been able to fly since last November. The weather is killing me

>>1066327
R22?

What is the rental wet per hour?

>>1066327
>70 hours in the last few weeks
Glad to be done with that stage of my flying career. But I feel your pain, man. I'm sorry about your luck.

>>1066377
Different anon but when I was instructing R22s were going for $325 an hour, with instruction.

Newly mented PPL fag, should I get a plane thats a slight step up from what I trained in, or get my complex/high performance and get somthing that actualy fits my mission requirments.

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>>1066452
What are your mission requirements?

>>1066485
What a view

>>1066485
The cross and dot on the upper right of your hud, what us that for? Seat alignment?

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>>1066501
Eye level by way of seat, yes.

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How about low level flying into wake island?

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>>1066505
Sorry about fruitposting, I never could be assed to learn to fix.

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Commercial multi checkride tomorrow lads

Boy these fucking rides never get any easier. Wish me luck boy, the suspense is killing me.

>>1066847

Good luck. Make sure to know how to do an emergency gear extension and follow the checklist.

When I did my checkride the first time I derped, having to do a procedure I have only read about in the POH, and was overspeed when I was ready to start. Not my proudest moment.

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How fares your countryside /gag/?

>Haven't heard back from FAA on 1st class medical deferral
>Have another week before my glaucoma tests come back and we can review them

This is literally fucking torture. And I know I'll probably be waiting another month or two to hear back from the FAA as well so that'll be fun

Hope none of you anons ever have to go through something like this

>>1066847
i got a random question why are all the airlines flying so low and all coming in at about 5 min intervals?? does it have to do with any unidentified flying objects i see in the air ??

>>1067136
Please tell me you're joking

I can't tell anymore lads

>>1067136
First tell your stance on chemtrails and we'll tell you

i hate thermals

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>>1067137
justlookatit!!!,,
,its like,, they wanto golow?,
,,maybe, UFO?,, or seagulls?

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Solow,, they hithearth!,
,,softly,, sweetly.
,,,,ChemTRAILS?,, FKing CHEMTRAILS!!
,sitting,, feeling the warmth of Spring,,, Then, the Chill of your STINKING FARTS BLOCKING MY SUN!!!,,, THATS MY SUN! IM SOAKING HERE!!!!
, go fight global warming somwheres else!!

>>1067121
I'm currently going through something like this.

>>1067430
What's going on with you anon?

>>1067351
That's like a sailor saying they hate waves. You're in the wrong business to be hating thermals.

Is a private pilot allowed to take photos while flying? say if the autopilot is on.

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>>1067515
According to 91.21 you sure can, provided it does not interfere with the navigation or communication instrumentation on the aircraft. Of course, it must not interfere with the safe operation of the aircraft and become a distraction, but hell everyone takes photos now and again.

>>1067441
A neuropsych exam because of ADHD when I was ten.

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>>1067515
I certainly hope so, elsewise I've been flying dirty for a long time

>>1067159
I accidentally hit the chem trail button once while making a low approach. Sprayed the entire Wal Mart with the shit, I did. I went in later to pick up some paper towels and the whole place looked like Bloodborne

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>>1066941
>filename

>>1068024
Did you check the frogs? Were the frogs gay?

Tri Pacer
$20,000

Should I?

>>1068399
Probably yes. How's the corrosion?

>>1068402
Light. Some corrosion on inside and the wiring probably needs to be re-done.
Maybe new insulation, too.

>>1068733
Get a guy who specializes in tube and fabric to do a pre buy inspection.

If I really study and get a 90%+ on the written does that mean the dpe will grill me less on the oral?

>>1068905
Doubt it. DPEs can sense weakness and will rip your asshole open if you seem like you don't know what you're talking about.

>>1068905
Do the best you can on the written and oral. A sub 90% means you're a dodo.

>>1067515
it's not really prudent, if you're involved in an accident and it's found that you were taking pictures that's negligence according to the FAA

Anyone ever done the VFR flight along the coast of Chicago? Thinking about it as seems fun.

>>1069034
Yes, from KBEH to KOSH, stuck to the lake shore at 1100 feet until north of Chicago. Really neat looking up at the Willis tower as you go by.

>>1069354
As luck would have it a friend from flight school asked if we could split time in my plane. Looks like we're doing it. Any tips/things to look out for? (aside from traffic)

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>>1065218
all day today where i live

>>1069372
Not really. In theory you can do it without talking to Chicago approach, but you really should be getting flight following. There's a chance that if you're talking to approach they decline your request for the lake shore, but I doubt they will. Make sure there's no TFR around Wrigley field. Have fun.

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MAKE WAY WEEKEND STALL/SPIN SHITTERS. THE PROS ARE HERE.

>>1069534
I love the look of US pilot licenses.

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>>1069534

>>1069534
Hell yeah good for you dude

Only 600 hours til my RATP... Somebody pls hire me

>>1069534
Damn son. Noice.

>>1069534
>americans
>English Proficient
LaughingBritbongs.jpg

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I finally got a camera up into the air with me

>>1069635
To be fair, it is listed under "limitations"

ha!

>>1069534
what do the words on the frame of the Wright flying say?

>>1069722
Flyer

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Woo

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Cool picture I got on a cross country a while back

>>1070134
Could've been a nice one to fly through

>>1070193
what if it was a supercell and tore his wings off

who knows what could happen

>>1070258
>supercell
>like 300'x300' cumulus cloud with no orographic features nearby
What a beast

>>1069534
Simple stuff like the FAA liscences make me wish I never moved out of the US. Now I'm training in Europe and there's so many hurdles one has to jump over. Regulations are fine and all and all I ever want to be is a safe pilot but it feels ludicrous.

All for a shitty piece of paper that don't even look good.

If I get ramp checked, what do I need to satisfy the weight and balance portion of AROW? Could it be something as simple as the WnB calculation I did on Foreflight on my iPad?

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>>1070394

I bet if you could prove that the WB on Foreflight gets the same as in the POH, you'd be alright. FAA Ramp Checkers are people too

>t. not FAA

Personally I use a Preflight sheet that has performance calculations and WnB (picrelated). As well as an excel file that I can print off for WnB.

>>1070410
I like that. Very nice.
If I ever have the time I'm going to create a "pre- cross country/travel" checklist for my students and i, and I would like to include something like this. This pre travel list will have everything from flight briefing to "do you need tie-downs for where you're going?" type items.

I'm thinking of including an international section that walks through required documents for Bahamas, Mexico, and Canada. Checklists be poppin' yo.

>>1070317
life is full of strange things

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Sup.

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After two years of trying, I've finally decided to call it quits on A&P school. I have to face the facts, I'm just not a very good mechanic.

I'm going to give flight school a try though. Even if I didn't do well in A&P school, I still feel like I soaked up enough information to give me a solid base to push off from. Hopefully I'll be better on the operational end of aeronautics than I was at the maintenance end.

>>1070503

That one is more specific to local flights... but I can see how it could be changed to long cross countries, international work... really you just need to think through your flight start to finish and put down everything you even think you'll need.

Also includes a risk assessment on the back, with a place for personal minimums, so that helps too.

>>1070394
You just need to be able to show that you are within limits according to the POH. You don't actually need to fill out a W&B for every flight. If you can prove on the spot by doing it when they ask, that's enough. TC/FAA is only concerned about if you are /actually/ within limits. They don't care whether or not you've filled one out for that specific flight - it isn't required to ever fill one out, just to be able to if asked.

>>1070394
The W in AROW is referring to the W&B in the aircraft's own POH showing that it is valid.

Some FAA guy ramp checking you doesn't give a rat's ass about your W&B. Unless you're doing commercial ops, that's a different story.

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Sooo, just got my FAA milcomp, am I crazy for wanting to dive into a RV-4/8? Would most likely try and find one built already and redo the panel/interior to my liking.

As much as I would love to do a build, time and space to do one would be limited what with PCS/deployments.

Took the girlfriend up as my first passenger today and not only did she start feeling sick, but ATC couldn't see my altitude the entire time so I was messing with that. Club's plane's transponder has been fucking up lately which is kinda frustrating. Oh well, maybe next time it'll go better

>>1071017
kek
a little motion sickness or what

did she need the barf bag

>>1070134
Could you have at least rotated the pic 90 degrees before posting?

>>1071031
yeah definitely some motion sickness. Had the bag ready but luckily she didn't need it.

Let's see how it goes when I take my dad and brother up

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hello /gag/
i need your help to find some data/datasheets:
i have to study the dynamics of the front suspension of a plane.
the kinematics of the subsystem must be like pic related.
any aviation product will be good for the assignment.

what i need is:
-dimensions
-spring and damper parameters
-size of the wheel

thank you

>>1071147
do this do this

>>1071147
Any specific aircraft? Here is the maintenance manual for the plane I fly, Diamond DA42NG. Landing gear is under section 32 (maybe halfway through the document). Diamond has all their maintenance manuals/AFMs available in PDF, so its kinda handy.

http://support.diamond-air.at/fileadmin/uploads/files/after_sales_support/DA42_New_Generation/Airplane_Maintenance_Manual/Basic_Manual/70215-DA42-NG-AMM-r3.pdf

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>tfw wanna fly in Alaska

how do lads?

>>1071408
Call around? Apply? Go for an interview?

Enjoy your midnight sun and Hoth-like winters, though I do hear it's beautiful up there.

anyone at NIFA competition here at KOSU?

Reminder

airplane > girls

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>>1071423

Hageland Aviation is a Part 135 carrier. You just need your commercial cert.

Look at that hourly pay though

>>1071625
How the hell is that possible? I just checked all the majors like FedEx, UPS and American and the highest I saw was 323/hr for a 12 year captain on the 777.. what the fuck

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>>1071704
B U S H F L Y I N G

>>1071707
I'm barely starting my Instrument training, but honestly, I hate the idea of being a CFI and I'm sure Alaska flying would be a lot more useful experience so this is really something that interests me.. that pay is outrageous.

>>1071730
You and me both amigo, seems like we're both in the same page. Though I'm flying in the US under a study visa so I'd need to get a working visa before I could even get a chance to CONSIDER working here.

:(

>>1071730
I know that feel. I did not go through all that training and money to become a teacher. I also love the idea of flying in Alaska, but loathe the idea of living in a winter wonderland ten months out of the year.

>>1071625
>>1071730
>>1071784

Youknow, I'd love to Alaska and fly there, but honestly, the money isn't that good when you could just do a CFI job in the Lower 48 and then go to a regionals.

If you head up to Alaska, you won't want to go back. You won't get the advancement you'd get in the lower 48 I bet

not to mention to PIC you'd need 1500 hours ATP reqs anyways

>>1071804

>$175 as FO
>pay isn't good

>>1070540
my guy are you in an orion. That def looks like a t56 engine

>>1071624
Having time and money for planes leaves me with nothing for girls anyways.

>>1071544
Hey what's up my dude

>>1072171

I get more enjoyment out of looking at airplane videos than I do watching porn

https://youtu.be/su2pg029awQ

>>1072171
Girls are overrated, I prefer being at 10 thousand feet.

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Can someone give me a quick rundown on the Cessna 177RG Cardinal? It seems like a pretty neat plane, and relatively inexpensive. It seems to me like a poor man's 210 but I dunno, it's kinda growing on me. I like the fact that it's complex too.

>>1072346

At least airplanes cant get pregnant

>>1065395

I'm doing my long solo XC for private on Thursday

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>>1066941

>>1072412
Cool man. Be on top of your checkpoints, don't get lost, and don't shutdown a major airport. Good luck.

>>1072442

It should be easy. It's almost impossible to get lost on the route I'm flying. I'll be flying through a valley almost the entire way which has notable landmarks. I feel confident enough I could do the entire flight just using pilotage. But of course I'll have GPS running in the background along with dead reckoning

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>>1072442

Here

>>1072447
Why not go direct once you're out of the SFRA?

>>1072451

Instructor recommended route. Plus there is many airports along the way for the odd event of a diversion. Plus it'll take more time to fulfill the solo XC time.

It's a scenic route too, so it'll be nice

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>>1072365
The Cardinal is a 4-seater, so its more like an "alternative 182 RG." Its a fine plane, and I really enjoyed flying her (I rented a fixed-gear one). Visibility in turns is MUCH better than most other Cessnas, since the pilot's head is farther forward of the wing's leading edge. Doors are wide like a Caravan. Less draggy, too...you throttle back, and it stays at the same speed for a few seconds. That all-moving elevator makes a huge difference...flaring is done with just a tiny tug on the yoke, else tail goes crunch. I'm pretty sure that's the main reason for its lack of popularity.... some pilots instantly hated it just because they were expecting Skyhawk feel.

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I see under the right conditions that you can buy an ancient cessna for under 10k. How many people fly these relics? Safe? I want a plane of my own but I'm good on being 400k in debt( not that ANY bank would len me that kind of scratch, anyway)

Have a sexy plane. What plane is this?

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>>1072628
Forgot another question. Completely new and probably obviously so. Is there any rule against receiving private pilot training on your own plane? If not, is it uncommon? I'd assume right off that bigger schools wouldn't even consider it, right?

Have a corsair. My grandfather flew these.

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>>1072628
Lots of people fly old aircraft. They go under frequent inspections, so it isn't the age that matters but rather the condition. That being said the airframe inspections should performed with care to ensure metal fatigue isn't setting in. Aircraft components are subjected to temperature change, flexing, vibrations, and other forces/stresses that weaken the metal over time, so with older aircraft the mechanic has to be mindful of this and keep a watchful eye for the symptoms of fatigue.

Also the aircraft you chose is an A-29 Super Tucano, or the Embraer-314.

>>1072630
If you intend to receive instruction through a school (part 141) you'll use their aircraft. If you want freelance instruction (part 61) you can use whatever plane you'd like so long as it meets the requirements of the rating you are pursuing (private, instrument, commercial, multi, etc). You'll pay the operating costs of the aircraft obviously, and the instructor rate in addition.

>>1072151
That is in fact a P-3C. I'm transitioning now to the P-8A.

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Realistically...

How hard would it be to get a job with PSA Airlines? I feel like they are probably the toughest Airlines to get just based off of their benefits alone.

>>1072736

*toughest Regional airline

>>1071625
sorry wait what the fuck
i will personally blow each passenger for that per hour
is that an error?

Couldn't get a PPL hire yesterday due to shitty weather, haven't flown in over a week.

Withdrawal symptoms setting in. Send help.

>>1072692
Thanks very much for the info. Would it not be more economical to buy a bird for 15k then seek an instructor than pay 15k for rentals and schooling? I know you'd pay more, but you'd have a license -and- resale value

>>1072736
That depends, do you have a CAMEL, ATP mins, and a pulse?

>>1072970

Why do you say these things..


I honestly figured PSA and Envoy would be difficult to get hired by. They have guaranteed flow through program to American Airlines. Who wouldn't want that?

>>1072971

As someone at one of Envoy's partner schools, Regionals are hurting and need people. There's a reason why they're pushing the guaranteed flow-through and all these programs while you're a CFI.

>>1072980
I hope that this program is current in the next year and a half

>>1072717
Pilot or windowlicker?

>>1073028
Different guy, but I can tell you for a fact that it's possible to be both.

Source: I'm a grunt in the Guard and a private pilot in normal-people world.

Truth be told, though, we prefer eating crayons and paste to licking windows

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>>1073028
Pilot.

Pic related.

>>1073061

Goddamn I can't wait to get into bigger jets... even just regionals.

I had a class that was basically the 737-8/900 systems and how to do the basics of FMC and I couldn't get enough of it.

>>1073063
We spend a little too much time on the FMC and not enough on flying. But alas, I am coming from P-3s where we kinda just kicked the tires and lit the fires. Soooo paradigm shift.

But yeah, nothing quite like a substantial jet to make you feel happy.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a civil 737 with Low Level Operations mode, though.

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Learjet 35 crash in Teterboro, NJ. thoughts?
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NJ-Plane-Crashes-Into-Building-in-Carlstadt-422365794.html

Unrelated, anyone /adsb/ in here? Just built a receiver yesterday and uploading to Flightaware and FR24

>>1072986
It should be. Majors are going to have a bunch of people retiring for the next decade about.

>>1072736
Last year when I was a junior at Ohio University (aviation major), i was in a class where we had people in the aviation industry come in and talk to us. We had one of the Vice Presidents of PSA come in one evening.

At one point he asked who was a CFI and how many hours they had. My one roommate who was a senior was a CFI with 750ish hours at the time. When the VP heard that he immediately walked over to my roommate and handed him his business card.

The regionals are hiring like crazy right now. That's why there are all of these benefits and bonuses, because they need people so badly they'll pay them three times the amount they were being paid 4 years ago.

>>1073513
"Hey, no one wants to fly for us. We can't figure it out."

"Did you try paying them more than a cashier at Big Lots?"

"What? Our CEO is due a bonus! How dare you."

>>1073535

It's a funny thing, the last year or so my school (UCMO) has been hurting for instructors. So much so that they're offering people who're finishing up their commercial ratings an at-cost CFI track, and a reduced I-I this summer.

Thing is they haven't raised instructor pay...

We're probably going to see an instructor shortage eventually.

I'm interested in learning to fly, but I don't know anything about where to begin. Any advice? Is there any pastebin of links or something for newbies to read through to get the jist of how to start in aviation?

>>1073512
>>1073513

If Envoy or PSA hires me I'll be sooo fucking happy. From the research I've done, they are the only 2 regionals with a guaranteed path directly to the majors without having to re-apply and interview.

>>1073563

Find a flight school/fixed base operator at your local airport.

Call them and set up a meeting with a flight instructor. It can include an intro flight as well.

Usually the instructor can help you from there. There are a number of options so I (and most people) suggest shopping around and finding a school and instructor you're comfortable with.

What's your general area, as in City and State? I could find a few airports you might not know about there.

>>1073061
lol maritime...

>>1073594
Well, right now I'm near Knoxville TN, but my life is in a bit of flux, and I'm trying to move up to the Seattle WA area.

>>1073686
Well Knoxville it looks like you have:

>Rockwood (RKW)
>Monroe (MNV)
>McGhee Tyson (TYS)
>Knoxville Downtown (DKX)
>Gatlinburg (GKT)

Just look up "(three letter code) airport", click on the link from AirNav.com, then scroll down to a section called "FBO, Fuel Providers, and Aircraft Ground Support." That lists out all the FBOs and the services they provide.

That works the best for just preliminary information. If you're not too sure about that info on there, there's a phone number for the airport itself and just ask for contact info for flight schools or instructors.

Or you can just google "flight schools near _______". Just make phone calls, and don't be afraid to ask questions.

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Any military pilots here?

How realistic is it for someone to become a pilot after completing OCS with a meme degree rather than an academy or ROTC? Is it even possible or is it more like 1 out of 1000?

First choice would be naval aviation but would gladly go Air Force as well.

First Solo XC in 12 hours.. I know I'm fully capable to do it as I've had no problem with the last XC we did. This is a easy route too, which we have flown once before. Plus I'm familiar with the area in general. But even still... I'm feeling anxious

Do any of you ever feel a bit of anxiety when you fly solo or when you do your "firsts"?

>>1073757
Yes, but that's the point. Once you've successfully completed the journey, your confidence gets a big boost.

>>1073761

Yeah I'm sure you're right.

I mean, if a 16 year old girl can do it, than 25 year old me can too right? I know what I need to do. I just need to do it

>>1073757
Sure, its completely normal. The key is getting over it to accomplish the flight without letting it hinder your performance. You'll find that once you step in the aircraft by yourself the whole feeling changes, and it becomes a lot more fun. Have a good flight, you'll do fine.

>>1073581
Piedmont too

So I busted my instrument checkride a few months ago, but due to an issue with IACRA, the DPE had to fill out a manual 8710. After the flight, she told me she "might forget to mail it off to Oklahoma", heavily implying that she wasn't going to report my failure to the FAA (she was retiring in a few weeks anyway). Is there any way for me to check if that failure is on my record? Would the IACRA website show it?

>>1073688

The nice thing about the navy is that it's performance based. With a degree you will put in a package for OCS which will consist of your ASTB scores, GPA, motivational statement, and letters of rec. If you meet the requirements for the selection board that time around you will get picked up. From there it's just doing well in Primary and the needs of the Navy as far as platform goes.

tl;dr I got a business degree and I'm flying rhinos now. Don't go to VFA-211 they have a lot of class alphas.

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>>1073761
>>1073768

All done. Easy and smooth

Pic, LDN VOR

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>>1073933
VOR's are my best friend, no joke.

Doing VOR/DME Arc IFR approaches are imo more fun than doing a mere RNAV/GPS approach.

Fuck all those Embry-Riddle babbies who can't even fly without an iPad with ForeFlight/G1000.

pic unrelated

>>1073945

I think VOR's are an interesting concept.

>riddle babies

Do they really not use VORs at all? Through my flight school, we have the GPS running in the background to measure distance (since aircraft isn't equipped with DME) but we use VORs a lot. After I get my private, I'll be going to ATP Flight School. Which.. I have to get a iPad and foreflight

>>1073965
I've heard some outrageous stories about riddle babies, not knowing how to use VOR's, flying as poorly as AirFrance F/O when they get put in a plane with steam gauges. Shameful to be honest...

>>1073945
Fuck you

t. ERAU flight student

>>1073965
We use VORs just as much as everyone else. We do use GPS to obtain a DME, which is very accurate. Often when I do an approach using autopilot I will program in a GPS overlay because the autopilot functions smoother based upon a GPS signal as opposed to a VOR signal, which will sometimes cause the aircraft to snake back and forth chasing a needle (it's a bit funky). Fore flight is a fantastic aid, especially for instrument. No dicking around with the TPPs and folding charts.

>>1073970
>I've heard
Why don't you quit spreading rumors like a damn child. I've never understood why people shit all over ERAU and similar flight programs; they are pretty comprehensive, and with the classes students take in addition to the flight training the students learn above and beyond the typical required knowledge areas. In addition, for each flight course you also have 2 check oral activities and 2 checkrides, one for the university and one for the FAA. So you either know your shit or you burn a lot of money failing.

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>>1073984

>t. ERAU flight student

I'm going to be training on that far ramp over there in the picture

Your campus is pretty nice though Tbh

>>1073993
Neat, though I'm at the Prescott Arizona campus myself. I like the southwest too much, It's beautiful out here

>>1073997

I'm curious. Why did you choose Riddle? Isn't the flight program like $130,000? Don't you only have about 250TT after 4 years?

I'll be going to ATP Flight School with credit for private. I'll spend $60,000 but I'll be done in 6 months and have a time building jobs as a CFI guarenteed. Typical path to regionals is 2 years

>>1074000
Part 141 flight training is expensive anywhere you go, but yeah it is pricey. I get all the way through commercial multi w/ instrument by the time I'm finished (just one more checkride and I'll be done...). They are short instructors though, so they are offering select students an accelerated CFI course paid for by the university with a two year contract, and they'll pay for any additional classes you take. Instructors will reach their reduced ATP mins in something like eight months, it's crazy. They got something like 12 or 13 students per instructor at the moment.

>>1074004

Yeah I guess

OH, tell me. Is there QTs out there in Arizona? When I visited a friend at Riddle DAB, even though I didn't see many girls on campus, the ones I did see were total QT 3.14s. It blew my mind

>>1074008
Hehehe that's one rumor about Riddle that is pretty true. There isn't a large female population, but when you think about it, engineering and aviation are both male-dominant career paths, so it makes sense.

Most of the girls here are ok, but some have a chip on their shoulder and some are lesbian (softball/basketball chicks man)

I'm on an A320 type rating course currently. First sim session next week, kinda pumped but kinda worried as I spend too much time shitposting instead of studying proper.

>>1073778
Dude just ask her

>>1074140

Is it math intensive..?

>>1074159

That looks wrong

hello, noob with zero experience here.

I'm really only interested in gyrocopters - anyone here have gyro experience? Going to try and get some lessons soon.

>>1074154
Not really.

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>mfw retards talking about how airliners and cargo planes are going to be 100% automated in the next twenty years because there's a couple of *driverless* cars being developed
Somebody please cleanse this cancer from the Earth.

>>1073984
I fly in central Florida and erau space cadets are obnoxious. Always saying ridiculous stuff like "here comes the flash" instead of a simple "ident" and "No joy" when you can't see traffic instead of just saying "searching". You think you're gods gift to the skies and you sound like pricks. You can't fly steam gauge, And you'd shit your pants if you had to fly something made before you were born.

>>1074230
It's especially silly since cargo planes and such are already 95% automated

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>>1074272
Florida flyan represent.

Steam gauges for life.

>>1074307

I can't wait to move down to Florida in the fall.

Guys

How difficult is it to meet QTs who are in Aviation? Doesn't matter if they are a pilot, ATC, Ops or whatever. But just girls who are genuinely interested in Aviation? I want a QT like that.

https://youtu.be/su2pg029awQ

>>1074272
I've never heard anyone say that gay shit out here in Arizona in the four years I've been here. The Florida and Arizona campuses are pretty different, and generally we dislike the Daytona Beach guys out here.

I don't get people like you who consider steam gauges to be some impossibly difficult form of instrumentation to use. It's just an azimuth card and a direction-indicating needle. Sometimes the card moves, sometimes the needle, sometimes both. Wow so incredibly tough I think I'll throw my commercial multi w/ instrument cert out the window and give up now.

>>1074317
>find QT at bar
>tell her you're a pilot
>make her interested in aviation by taking her flying

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>>1074272
>>1074307

I got my Private Glider and SEL in the JAX area.... I miss flying in Florida, Missouri weather is too unpredictable this time of year.

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This was an amazing adventure.

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E=MCsquare.,,,
,,,,MCsquare=E,
,if I decrease M,, E will follow.
,,, this is why jets like flying high,, they get colder, lowering E and therby weight.
,,, you can tell its true where in space the temperature is 0,,, so theres no mass, making it "weightless"

>>1074331
the whole point is it's easy and yet whiz kids can't handle it. not that its difficult. if it were difficult, it wouldn't be an insult to say "you can't fly steam gauge".

since it's easy, and you can't do it, it makes you look dumb. see how insults work?

>>1074389
do you just enjoy paying more for gas? shift your track a couple hundred miles south, save hundreds.

in all seriousness tho, looks neato.

>>1074317
they don't exist.

women who like aviation are either ugly, psycho, bad pilots, or are pretty and refuse to date a pilot because they know what we're like.

>>1074389
Wow. I knew people flew far for that pie, but damn, that's impressive. The pie was worth it though, right?

>>1074419
school paid for fuel

>>1074424
haha it's my home base at CYNJ. we ferried two planes back since the school bought them from London Ontario.

>>1074419
>>1074424
the entire route was
Day 1
>CYXU-CYEL
Day2
>CYSP-CYQT
Day 3
>CYHD-CYPG-CYQR-CYYN
Day 4
>CYQL-CYXC-CYYF-CYNJ

>>1074426
>>1074427
You lucky fuck. I wish I could get free hours ferrying aircraft around.

>>1074429
Logged about 23 hours TT

>>1074430
>$3500 to do normally
Welp. Fuck this, the jelly is going to kill me. I need to do something else right now.

>>1074357

>find QT at the bar

I don't really enjoy bars, and aren't most girls there shit anyways?

I've always been told "you don't meet quality girls at bars"

>>1074418
What makes you say I can't fly steam? Also, acknowledging an insult isn't an admission, I'm not quite sure where that assumption came from.

>>1074431
also take into consideration accommodation, food, taxi etc etc

>>1074435
Tail, radial, turn

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Center Controller here. AMA you pilot faggots

>MFW you call me with a VFR flight following request and im 6 feet down the shitter

>>1074159
Cessna-130

>>1074514

Do you ever hear any attractive sounding women on freq?

Granted that this video is a meme, what would your reaction be if this was real and happened to you? ;)

https://youtu.be/Ji10ZXVRsFo

>>1074420
This hits home. I'm a mere cpl holder and my wife hates planes.

>>1074592
i'd say 80-90% of women sound hot on frequency. as soon as we unkey we say shit like "she wants me" or whatever cocky nonsense that pops into our head

>>1074604

That sounds fun Tbh

>>1074514
You ever have any Brit or Euro vfr pilots that request services that don't exist in US airspace?

>>1074743
nah, any Eurotrash we get is lufthansa or british airways flying IFR. all of our vfr guys are local rednecks taking their 172 out for a spin

>>1074742
the control room banter is a lot of fun. if pilots knew the fucked up things we say before and after clearances, they would never trust us. we play super fucked up games of "would you rather" or "fuck, marry, kill" a lot. its worse than high school how much bullying goes on

>>1074747
So no difference that what we are talking about when picking up those same clearances?

Actual conversation over ICS: "After start checklist complete... So anyways, which one would you fuck: Miley Cyrus when she was 14 years old, or fucked up drugged out modern Miley?"

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>>1074514

So, funniest and most annoying story about pilots?

>>1074747
>>1074749

I'm just wondering what the airwaves would sound like if we just let loose...

>"Ey, KC approach ya overshot our localizer you assholes, Muleflight 454"
>"Muleflight 454 turn the fuck around and find it again you know where the fuck you are."
>"Give us a fucking clearance first"


>"It's MULEflight Chicago. MULE as in ASS."
(this one was closest to happenning one night)


>"St. Louis departure, Muleflight 464, could ya give us our fucking clearance yet?"
>"Cessna 464CM [insert clearance here]"
>"Goddamnit Departure it's MULEFIGHT 4. 6. 4. but here's the clearance, [clearance]"
>"CESSNA 464CM im gonna call you what I'm gonna call you goddamnit unless you give me your 3 letter identifier, readback correct."
>"Fuck if I know what it is, this if the first time I've been asked for it. You work with us enough you should fucking know."

^Based on true stories

>>1074752
it would be absolute chaos. shouting matches over the frequency and misunderstood clearances. we depend so heavily on having standard phraseology so we can just pick out the important stuff and not listen to every word. ill be talking to the guy next to me during a readback and be able to tell if it was a bad readback

Which would be better to work for?

UA or AA?

I've got my commercial checkride this week, I dont know anything, send help

>>1073551
Not necessarily an instructor shortage at the school I'm applying at but they're hurting for II and MEIs so bad they're writing up contracts to pay entirely for those ratings.

>>1075020

How do you not know anything? :(

>>1075020
You're gonna have to be more specific. What don't you get?

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>>1075024
>>1075025
idk man I'm just winging it

>>1075031
Resignation is a hazardous attitude according to the FAA

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>>1075037
I wouldn't call it resignation necessarily. More like I don't feel like I know enough to get paid to fly.

>these are your pilots

>>1075081
Do you feel you have mastered the aircraft and developed proficiency in the related knowledge areas?

>>1075031
>posting anime
dude dont tell me you will ever fly a plane with humans inside pls

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Kinda related (mods don't ban pls),

Anyone get excited about Flight Sim World then get horribly disappointed? Picrelated

This totally belongs in GAG, Flight Sims are training tools....

>>1075130
VSI's lag. maybe it's a super duper accurate g̶a̶m̶e̶ sim and you just don't know.

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>>1075084
>>1075092
uuuuhhhhhhh well I haven't crashed yet.

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>>1075353
also
>tfw all this free time before checkride
>playing video games and shitposting instead of studying
this isn't a good idea

>>1075353
>>1075354
Well instead of resigning to failure how about you study or ask for help instead of posting reaction images on a Tibetan yak shearing forum

>>1075364
you're talking to a dude who uses animu reaction images, he is absolutely hopeless.

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Anyone think they can do the Kessel Run in under 6 parsecs?

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>>1075380
>yur talking to a dude
,,,itsall in,, the butt.,
,move that ASS!!, the fingers will follow.
,AIRPORT PARK< yesssss I'm yelling.,
,GO!, stand UP!,,, GO!,,
,,,, yes, theres a drinking fountain., WIFI., nice bench., restrooms.,
,make noteson landings, be hyper critical.
,bring snacks,,Share!

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girls.

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bring your own barf bag,, other pilots fly for Crp!.,
,, My swooping and warbles are for Max flybirdy,,, YOURs, makes me wanto HURL!
,, anyways,, don't forget the Snacks!.
pic> streamlined pilots.,

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>>1075809
>tfw BaconRider replies to you

blessed

welp, just finished aircraft maintenance college, now what the fuck do i do? im in leafland btw .

>>1076025
Get a job

>>1076025
Restore classic aircraft to better than new condition, sell for yuge profit

>>1076025

Warbirds!

I've taken and aced my Instrument written, my commercial written, my CFI written, my CFII written, but I'm struggling to get enough time with an instructor to get these check rides done. sucks. What can I do in the meantime?

>>1076835

Keep pestering your CFI.

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Nailed a landing in a Dakota today.

Runway heading was 300. Wind was 17 gusting 24, variable from 230-270.

Came in deliberately fast at 80 knots, only used 2 notches of flaps, and greased it.

Felt good man.

>>1077071
>>1077071
We all know that feeling. Gotcha grinning like a damn fool all the way to engine shutdown.

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Wannabe pilot here.

Just looking for any good aviation themed desktop wallpapers.

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>>1077237

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>>1077238

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>>1077239

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>>1077237

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>>1077237

I have a few pictures of my own that I've gotten over the years that I use as backgrounds. Hope ya like
1/?

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8/8

Hope there was one in there you liked.

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>>1077346
Thanks dude. Some pretty good stuff.

Anybody here ever work as a lineman at an FBO before?

I just handed in my resume today and the manager gave me an impromptu interview as well. He told me to come back at 10am tomorrow for a formal interview but called me an hour after I left and asked if I was free to stay until 6pm. He also told me to bring my social security card and said my classes won't be a problem so I'm guessing things are looking good.

What does the job entail? What can expect? Is it fun or just dull and stressful?

About the airport itself; 300 daily aircraft operations daily involving scheduled commercial, corporate jet, military, and of course general aviation.

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Wel I just had a relatively shitty fucking flight... Working on Commercial Maneuvers and I've done worse but this one was up there. Just felt off the whole time even when I was told I got it dead on.

Picrelated was the sight walking back to the hanger

>>1077591

Lucky Fucker... I've had nearly every place within 30 minutes turn me down for Line work... One that said I had the job but never called me back to set up the drug test (and I KNOW my background is clean)

But it mostly entails pushing airplanes around, fueling and defueling (prepare to taste 100LL or JET-A), general cleaning chores, things of that nature. There will be times were you're busy and there will be times where you're just fucking around because you have nothing better to do

>>1077604

Are commercial maneuvers difficult?

>>1077604
Some days you just can't win my dude, we all have them. Don't let it discourage you. Review the maneuvers in your head, examine what you did incorrectly, and determine the proper corrective action would be for your next flight. Success or failure, it's still valuable experience and good practice.

>>1077591
I work as a line service tech for a well known fbo chain.
The staff and management at my fbo are a tight knit bunch of top notch individuals, and it is by far the best job I've ever had. The team is going to set the tone for your fbo. The fueling, hangar stacking, truck/farm maintenance, chores are actually pretty fun, And the only thing I really don't like is doing lav service... but I convinced my boss to get me and the other guys a really nice face shield in addition to the gown and rubber gloves, So even that isn't bad

Anyways... If you love working with highly trained professionals to get a job done correctly, like putting a smile on strangers faces, enjoy being responsible for things like multi million dollar jets and flammable liquids, like to creatively solve logistics problems, and are a good conversationalist, you'll do very well.

If you like being told what needs to be done, are inflexible about working alone or in a group, are nervous about being responsible for moving heavy expensive things, would be nervous talking to celebrities and billionaires, and like knowing what you're going to do that day, the job isn't for you.

On Memorial day I didn't do one single operational task other than my daily inspections because there were no aircraft movements or guests in the FBO. I studied for 7 hours and was paid for it.

Today i put 15,000 steps on my step counter, made $190 in tips, and didn't sit down for more than 5 minutes to eat and check on the status of some incoming flights. Both days were a lot of fun.


Also I know a bunch of people who would happily hire me when I get my commercial multi, so that's nice too.

>>1077645
Aaaaand I get a yoooge discount on avgas. it's a sweet gig.

>>1077645
>tips
Wew wasn't expecting this. How exactly do tips work?

>>1077617

Not really, it just focuses a lot on finnesse.

>>1077637

Thanks, I really don't know what was going on today but I was just BLEGH. Sucks because when I first started my Commercial SEL addon (I have my Comm MEL already) I was getting the landings and shit down perfect now it's just.... idk

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>>1077591

I worked as a lineman for a year.

Was for a private FBO, and got about 10 or 20 departures/arrivals per shift (The airport getting about 210 operations a day). Mostly private jets and planes, some military, Civil Air Patrol, etc.

Most of the time spent de-bugging, moving, and fueling planes. Otherwise the rest of the time would be spent receiving and preparing planes for departure or cleaning the hangers. Every morning there would be a fuel quality check, and every night the fuel trucks would be quality checked.

On rare occasions I would have to stay very late to receive an after hours arrival (usually just so I could pull their plane in the hanger during inclement weather), but usually you would just get their cars and necessities left out for them.

It's a litter unnerving at first, but you get used to it. The only time I was really stressed was when there was a large shift in employees and I was left alone to handle the base by myself and move a lot planes.

We had to detail high paying clients cars if they requested it, I'm not sure if this is common or not.

By far my favorite job that I've had so far.

>>1077650

Some times the people coming in or going out drop you a 10 or 20. Nothing really to it, just split it with who-ever you're working with that day.

>>1077650
Smile, be eager to help without being annoying or awkward, say "hello, good evening!" "Have a good flight, we'll see you next time!" And "If you like I'll bring your car plane-side while you get situated" and that kind of thing.

You are the first face they will see after they land, and the last face they will see when they leave. YOU set the tone for their trip. Not the CSR, not the manager, YOU. If you make them feel good about the trip and do a good job schlepping bags, they'll THROW money at you.

And don't stand around waiting for the tip. Stay busy, and when they're ready to palm you a twenty they'll call you over.

Also, don't sound like a dumb red neck even if you are one (Like me)
When they thank you say "My pleasure" instead of "No problem"

And for god sake be flexible and use common sense. If you see a family with young kids who are scared of loud noises, find them some ear plugs, or offer to put some cartoons on in the FBO to keep them occupied while daddy is preflighting.. If you see something the pilot missed, tell him privately, not in front of his passengers and the rest of the FBO. Don't hand out copies of your mix tape. Don't say "I'm a pilot too!" To everyone who comes through. Listen more than you talk. Don't let pilots pull their own chocks. Be ready to do CSR things like arrange rental cars and hotel rooms... just be sharp and "get it"

You're not dealing with the general public. You're dealing with professional pilots, wealthy owners, and adventurous pleasure seekers. Act like it.

>>1067515
depends if you hand controls over to the co-pilot/instructor.

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>>1065230
soo fuckng many.
>be me, flying a pa34
>longish trip, remote airfield, no wx data at airfield, no viable diversions
>taf ok, synoptics show no fronts, wind good
>fuel calculation at the limit
>professionally maintained plane
>get there ok, load/unload cargo
>takeoff at twilight, strong headwinds. halfwayhome, red light starts winking at me
>lfq
>back of napkin calculations show we still have enough in the right tank
>adjust power for long range cruise and then some
>crossfeed
>we gud nigor
>on long final, red light
>rfq
>ah well, still have enough to land
>land with no problems
>roll to hangar
>while idling to cool the turbos, right engine dies
>left engine dies a.few seconds later
>ballscomingup.png
>mechanic comes over, starts chatting, i tell him i didnt turn off the engines
>tells me the rfq indicator always points 10 gallons higher than real quantity.
>ballsnowinthroat.jpg
fuck that.

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Tiltrotors are the solution to difficult small airports.

>>1070410
>vmca is 999
>all speeds are 999
sr71 pls go

>>1077835
You're either a shit pilot, have no self preservation instinct, or are a liar.

>>1077836
More like "tiltrotors are big whirling death traps and don't do a single thing well"

>>1077841
>Burns ~10 GPH

I want that SR-71.

>>1077853
They're good at looking COOL AS SHIT
t. Ghost in the Shell SAC
although those were tiltwings which is even worse probably

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>>1077852
>probably the first two.
being forced by circumstances to fly as a beginner without some necessary experience sucks.

that was years ago, though.

Another reminder:

Aviation > girls

>>1077943
where the hell do you think you are?
girly bois > aviation > grills

>>1077952

Traps are gay

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>>1078138
>>1077952

why am i surprised that any thread of a sri lankan fingerpainting forum must touch upon this subject?
pic unrelated

My brain is so fucking tired. I've spent hours everyday the past week doing online practice questions for the FAA private written on Monday. I'm scoring 90% when I do the practice tests. But I'm still concerned about when I take the actual test.

>>1078235
90% is weak. Keep going.

>>1078235
90% is more than enough, no one really cares about written exam scores, not even examiners >>1078261 is just trying to rile you up

>>1078265
The exams are so easy that if you're scoring less than 90, there are serious gaps in your most basic knowledge.

>>1078265
Says the person who doesn't score well on written exams.

>>1077852
>>1078266
>>1078261
>i'm bored of /b/ and i want to bait some pilots

>>1078276
>I make excuses for my mediocrity and poor decision making

>>1078266
but no-one studies for the written with books, they use memorizing tools like sheppard air

>>1078329
A thorough understanding of the subject does not preclude a high score. The memorization of test questions is a good way to fake your way through the test, to be sure, but a real understanding of the subject will make high scores easy and memorization unnecessary.

>>1078329
You don't study the books? Tf is wrong with you

>>1078319
>I am a salty, arrogant armchair pilot.

You should really try the psych eval, with people skills like these, you're captain material already. Bud "I know better" Holland captain material.

>>1078266
Bait

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Can we just chill now? Cool.

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>>1078672
i've been drinking so here is an awesome plane for you amerifags.

Finished the FAA private pilot written.

Now, I can relax. Enjoy the Paris Airshow in a few weeks, and when I come back knock out my checkride.

Any manlets here too weak to push back the plane? It's really embarrassing, it takes me 10 minutes to push it back 20 feet into the tiedown. I only fly at dusk when it's less crowded to avoid the shame.

>>1078846

How much do you weigh?

I'm light, only 143lbs, but I can push back with no issues

>>1078849
160. It doesn't help that the planes have to be pushed uphill through potholes either.

>>1078852

Where are you pushing it from?

>>1078854
Just the taxiway to the tiedown.

>>1078856

I meant what part of the aircraft do you push on? Also what type of aircraft is it?

>>1078862
Oh. I usually just put all my body weight against the prop. It's a c172s. I'm flying in a few hours so we'll see how that goes.

>>1078863

I usually push with 1 hand on prop and 1 on the tow bar and it works fine for me

>>1078863
Grass or tarmac? Slope?

>>1078897
Shitty tarmac with a slightly uphill slope.

>>1078905

Maybe you're pushing UP on the aircraft more than pushing it BACK

Newly hired lineman from >>1077591 here

I fucking love my job. My only regret is not finding it sooner.

Apparently we must be a decent FBO because half the stuff you guys said is covered by our line hostesses, which are basically just qt girls rotating from front desk work. Anyway, in the 3 days I've worked so far I've met the governer of my state, several pro athletes, executives, mega mega rich people, and a bunch of other cool characters. I got a lift in a secret service van and took a Porsche GT3 for a spin around the tarmac.

At first I was like "holy shit this is complicated as fuck" regarding refueling but on the second day I was doing everything alone. My trainer was just like "here's the airbrake, here's the on button, here's the nozzle, and here's where you stick it. Good luck." We have a large flight school next door so we're usually busy with refueling but there's always 3-5 other young guys like me on shift so I'm never stuck just refueling. I'll never have to do lav work or washing either because apparently our foreman likes to do it and won't "let us mess up stuff." The 2pm-10pm shifts are the best. All the bosses leave at 4pm and traffic completely dies down after 5pm if the day wasn't sunny. All us linemen raced golf cars, went off roading, played hide and go seek, and a bunch of other crazy shit. If I ever have class work to do I just ask for a dead shift and they'll set me in the line office and leave me be. And I get paid for it

Oh and Bubba Watson gave me a $100 tip today. My second highlight of the day was playing with a G650ER.

It's been rainy every day I've worked so far so I'm looking forward to a sunny day with real work. According to the other linemen we usually rack up a good amount on tips during busy days. This is the first job I've had where I can't wait to get to work.

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>>1078905
Maybe try to rig something like pic related between the tail and the ring? You just tighten it and leave the plane tied up in style.

>>1079271
>>1079271
>>1079271
>>1079271

New bread link