Post interesting information, images, and videos of trains in Japan.
>>1063963
Why can't the Japanese make trains without sticking out parts everywhere?
>>1063971
Cause most of them are designed for a Cape gauge loading gauge, so to make them more roomy they don't internalize a lot of components
>>1064014
Nah it's just shoddy cheap engineering and design. The uk also has a small loading gauge but they never bolt equipment randomly to a flat roof, or make car ends 90 degree corners.
>>1064025
Nigga intercity train uses standard gauge not cape gauge
>>1064014
Oh good it's time for /n/'s monthly "shit on Nippon for not agreeing to stick with 1435mm" thread, I thought I'd miss it this time
FUCK WHY IS KEIO LINE SCOTCH GAUGE
WHY DIDN'T KANSAI ADOPT 60HZ GODDAMMIT NIPPON I THOUGHT YOU WERE ALL ABOUT THAT CONSENSUS SHIT
>>1064037
Why are you making an issue out of it like a retard?
Taken from twitter. We welcome the allergy season and the 103 still refuses to die
>>1063971
Ease of maintenance and lowering of cost. All the parts are treated like LEGO. I mean, if you were really inclined like with Shinkansen trains you could streamline the parts but there's no incentive to do so. Japanese trains are run pretty hard, even the way they drive them. Not many places outside Japan will teach you to slam it into notch 4 or 5 (or 12+ for Shinkansen) from a stop as standard practice
>>1064056
You have to admit it's quite nightmarish though. Keio and the subsequent Toei Shinjuku being compatible with neither standard nor narrow gauge is so much why the only reason they haven't fixed it is probably because they haven't been able to round up enough engineers to do the whole thing in 4 hours
And the frequency barrier will forever screw the market for industrial equipment
>>1064079
Oh, I'm a dumb fuck who doesn't look. That's a 201. All is well with the world once again!
>>1064035
They're both the same guage. When Hitachi won the contract they even got to take an old intercity HST and test/examine it to base their new class 800 from.
>>1064130
Yeah, but the majority of their design experience is for cape gauge stock, so its hardly surprising they stick with their standard practice when making something a little larger.
>>1064128
>Maybe in 10 or so years but you know JR West will keep them running on rural lines / Kyoto-Nara area it until they can't
Fukuchiyama Line used 113s until 2012 when the 225-6000 series was finally rolled out
At this rate I expect JR West to keep the 103s (and 201s as a matter of fact) until 2070. Probably the same year that Hanwa 223-0s are fully replaced by 225-5100s
583 series finally retired as of last weekend.
Disappointed I never managed to make it over to ride one. Hope they don't scrap all the intermediate car, it would be nice if a full trainset was preserved.
>>1063963
Man NEX fucked me on pricing.
40000 yen 1 way from Narita to Yokohama.
And then had the audacity to charge me 1000 yen for this skinny ass monster
>>1064241
But by that time JR West will probably build another family or two sameface trains
>>1064245
>Preserving the whole set
LaughingJapanesePeople.gif You will be lucky that they preserve anything more than the lead car (which they usually do unless it is something special)
>>1064250
>Not buying the discount 4000 Yen round trip ticket (if the conditions are met)
>Buying a small ass can of Monster for 1000 Yen on the train
>>1064252
>You will be lucky that they preserve anything more than the lead car
Yeah, that's the reason I hoped for a full set, even getting a lead car preserved is pretty rare, and a lot of the more run down units that are essentially abandoned in parks seem to be getting scraped as well.
>>1064254
Well, it's Japan. It's not like they had a whole lot of room to store trains that are of no practical use anymore.
And unlike steam-engines modern stuff doesn't lend itself to being used as playground equipment.
>>1064037
>why didn't kansai adopt 60hz
because ABB supplied generators to them
>>1064250
I think you might have added an extra zero to each of those costs
>>1064615
Nope
You couldn't even take the Tokyu line to Yokohama for $41.
Japan is expensive as fuck.
$400 USD to ride the Narita Express one way.
$10 for a monster on board. (Needed since I decided red-eye take off on 14 hour flight +train was a great idea)
>>1064618
>$400 USD for one way
Pics of ticket or it doesn't happen, the $10 for a can of Monster I will give you though ... you are sitll stupid for not buying it in a convenience store in the airport before you board the train
>>1064618
i call bullshit. i took the narita express to shinjuku and it cost me something like 29€ (3100 yens). and if you get your return flight in less than two weeks you can get the return ticket for free.
>>1064618
Dude what. I'm looking on hyperdia right now and can't find anything that expensive.
>>1064618
I'm guessing it was one of the limited edition N'EX + Melon tickets to cost 40000 yen
You were supposed to claim your melon at the station counter at the destination. Everything feels better if you eat it in the other direction though, preferably in an economy seat on the plane
My guilty pleasure is eating boxes of ROYCE' while flying on a low cost carrier, especially on days when the ticket itself is cheaper than the chocolate
>>1064250
Meanwhile, I think the bus from Yokohama to Narita was like 3000 yen.
posting sum oc from my last trip
>>1064618
are you retarded?
nex direct to yokohama is 4294 yen
skyliner plus JR is 3015 yen
keisei access express plus subway is 1677 yen
>>1064825
it took me about $250 usd to get from narita to kyushu one way on my last trip.
>>1064828
At that point one would usually opt for the Japan Rail Pass, right?
Well, Keisei and Nozomi are not possible in that case.
>>1064828
>narita to kyushu
But why.
More stolen from twitter
>when you're so broke your trains are dissolving
>>1064833
Depends on how far you want to run. Hikari to Shin Osaka and then Sakura to wherever you want in Kyushu is doable. The latter is almost as fast as Nozomi, like 1 stop difference. It is very much permitted but abusing the JR Pass like that is ehh, you might as well have tried to find a flight to FUK to make better use of your time
Pretty sure even JAL on Class J is like 6000 yen cheaper if you're going NRT-FUK or HND-FUK, or you can throw in another 5000 yen on top of what would otherwise be the train fare for F if you're going from HND
Even the train fanatic that I am was worn thin from a Tokyo-Hakata trip with lunch and a quick department store trip in Osaka. And that was in Green Car. Depends on what you like I guess
>>1064833
messed up my scheduling and booked a bunch of stuff a day off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCU8Ifngl8o
>>1064837
A friend of mine just sent me a photo from the same spot, very spooky.
(is it you)
post railcars
>JUST
http://inventorspot.com/articles/japans-nankai-electric-railway-animates-transportation-blazing-r
>>1064968
>The KiHa 40 DMUs are getting old and falling apart
>The first sets of their KiHa 183 DMUs are also getting old and falling apart
>The KiHa 141/3 DMUs are also falling apart
>Most infrastructure are also getting ancient and needs repairs
Considering how that the supposed replacement plans also included KiHa 281/3 DMUs, should I assume that even stainless steel bodies are no match for the Hokkaido winter?
>>1065660
That was 3 years ago Charpoke
>>1065375
Matsuura Railway 600 class DMU I took in the summer of 2015.
And a few more on a very rainy summer evening in Sasebo.
Also kinda cool, Kita Sasebo in 1964
>>1065709
And in 2015
>>1065711
>>1065711
>>1064824
WTF who let the brit design japanese trains
>>1066213
1910's Japanese Government Railways did, although the 9600 class was much better looking than that thing.
Last week's episode of Laughing Salesman had a bit on the retirement of the 583 series in the second half of the episode.
Was interesting to see. How the fuck do sleeper cars end up getting used as cars for rural lines towards the end of their life cycle anyway? It's not like beds were useful on those lines.
>>1066252
Not sure about the blue trains, but the 583 had a lot of these seats which just happened to secretly fold out into lie flat beds (good luck if it was booked for 4 people during sleeper service!) along with the Green Car which just used regular seats that had a deep recline
>>1064824
>>1066213
>>1066234
Similar to Hitachi AT200 for brits
>>1066325
Looks like the through connection was an afterthought, it doesn't mesh with the rest of the front design at all.
Just came back from a trip to Japan. Riding the Shinkansen is so comfy.
Is the JR Aizu railcam still up? I can't find a working URL and can't read the moonrunes to find it myself.
>>1066708
It was taken down at the end of last month
>>1066717
Nooooo!!
Is there anything else like it? It was so relaxing to leave on the screen.
>>1066540
I see that the people aren't the only slanted things in Japan.
>>1066252
For the 583 series EMU, it is supposed to be a dual-use EMU where you can use as a regular limited express train by day and sleeper train by night. The boxsets you see in >>1066274 are actually converted into sleeping berths for overnight services, which you can see how they are converted in the following video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_em7cUZ06qY
Some stolen Kominato
>>1066768
That's impressive. I knew about the box seats folding out to form beds but didn't know 2 more layers existed hidden in the luggage racks
>>1066540
>being able to see the Fuji from the Shinkansen
Lucky you. I have ridden that line a few times and never was able to see the Fuji.
>>1066717
This is why we can't have nice things
>>1066891
Try walking all the way from Shin Fuji to take pictures of the Shinkansen and Mt Fuji and it's the one fucking it's covered by clouds. Every other day I passed it was visible from the train
To add to the question about how the 583 series EMU being converted to rural-type EMUs, they went under heavy modifications in order to be able to act as rural-type trains. The JNR 419/715 EMU page on JPN Wikipedia shows what kind of changes were made. While it worked well enough as a stop-gap measure to deal with shortage of rolling stock (at the early 80s JNR was bleeding money and needed way to save cost from building new rolling stock), it was relatively lacking in various areas and eventually replaced by all new rural-type EMUs after the privatization happened
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84419%E7%B3%BB%E3%83%BB715%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A
>>1066912
Nice picture though, sad that the 700's are going to be retired in the next few years
Fukuchiyama line incident 12 anniversary ...
>>1066913
Yahoo Japan Transit
>>1066376
Through doors are ugly and restrict the view from the cab.
Should do it like the old days with a small door for staff only to climb between the units.
>>1067190
Our rubber nose trains have a front doors like...
>>1067209
...this. Quite nice.
>>1067209
>>1067210
related webm
>>1067209
>>1067228
I like trains. I like seeing them, I like riding them, they're my favourite mens of transportation.
Yet, I don't know much about them. How do I discover more about trains? Tried to google for a /n/ wiki (like other boards have), but without success.
>>1067261
Open a thread and ask for one?
>>1067209
Does it increase safety at collisions? If you make the rubber purposeful enough surely it reduces force of impact...
JR East's Tokyo Branch just announced that the first production set of the new E235 series EMU will enter service on May 22nd, 15 sets will enter service this year and the 34 more sets will gradually enter service until Spring 2020 before the Summer Olympic Games
https://response.jp/article/2017/04/25/293965.html
>>1067049
I'm pretty sure JR West will still be using them until they can't
>>1067261
have you ever been to 1chan?
>>1067190
Not necessarily, many of the JNR DMU and EMU types had it pretty well designed.
>>1067418
>>1067421
>Using an example where the door +gangway was removed AND sealed off
Come on now
>>1067418
>>1067423
Just grabbed the first photo from my folder, probably should have given it a closer look first.
I've been looking over MLIT's draft report for post-2020 rail lines in Tokyo (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/東京圏における今後の都市鉄道のあり方について) and there are a few things I'm wondering about.
> 1. Will Shonan-Shinjuku Line trains serve Haneda Airport or the new Rinkai-Keiyo thru service, or continue with its current service (towards Musashi-Kosugi)?
> 2. Will the Keiyo Line split into Tokyo--Shin-Kiba and Shin-Kiba--Soga sections?
I just want to know for sure because this will mean the current one-seat service between Marunouchi and bayside Chiba suburbs (like Maihama or Chiba-minato) will require a transfer.
> 3. How will thru service work on the Yurakucho-Hanzomon link?
Is it just going to be Toyosu--Sumiyoshi, or Yotsuya--Oshiage, or is Tokyo Metro going to go the full monty and link the Tobu Tojo Line with the Tobu Skytree Line (which would mean Shinrin-koen to Kurihashi(!))
> 4. Will the Yurakucho-Hanzomon link (Toyosu→Sumiyoshi) relieve pressure on other subway-heavy rail thru services?
e.g. Hibiya Line → Tobu Skytree Line, Yurakucho Line → Seibu Ikebukuro Line, Hanzomon Line → Tokyu Denentoshi Line
> 5. Will Skyliner services use the Downtown Direct Access Line, or continue onto the Keisei Main Line to Nippori?
> 6. Since the Downtown/Ginza-Waterfront subway won't be finished until at least 2030, what will be the main transportation link to the Athletes' Village in Harumi or the Olympic venues in Ariake? BRT?
>>1064618
>http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/nex/tickets.html
>Yokohama
>4,290 yen
>38.49 USD
Fuck off
[ICYMI] Tokyo Metro and Hokuriku Shinkansen were suspended for 10 min yesterday in response to North Korea's ballistic missile test.
>when you're looking for the mythical 221系 said to run on the line but there's no escape from the hell you were banished to
>>1067664
1. Saikyo line only.
2. No.
3. Look at the plan clearly: (Most likely Seibu if any through service)-(Yurakucho line)-Toyosu--Toyocho-Sumiyoshi-Oshiage-Yotsugi-Kameari-Yashio-Noda, (Hanzomon line)-Oshiage-Yotsugi-Matsudo
4. Tozai line?
5. Yes. Access Express can remain service to Nippori-Ueno. The bottleneck is at NRT.
6. BRT.
>>1067209
I used one of these units in Denmark once, very comfortable train. It was only one unit though. Seems like a very good solution even if the rubber bit is a little strange.
>>1063963
Didn't know weed was legal in Japan
>>1069486
>>1069487
Comfy inside.
Exterior is disgusting though.
>>1069486
I can revel in the fact that by the time I save up to add a trip on one of those 3 cruise trains to another trip to Japan, I'd be at the back of the waiting list
Tattered
>>1069488
I kinda like the exterior.
>>1069551
For some reason I think it would give me travel sickness
>>1064079
Even if the Keio and Toei Shinjuku changed from 1372mm (scotch gauge) to standard (1435mm), wouldn't the loading gauge still be different from other Japanese standard gauges, meaning that they would have to not only change all the tracks and their own trains in one night, but that other train companies would have to change their trains as well if they want to run on the keio network?
0 series Shinkansen with blue stripes on the nose, indicating it is running as a royal train.
>>1069967
>>1069509
Front door is da best.
>>1069903
You would be surprised their loading gauges are similar. Standardized designs for private operators, roughly similar to legal requirements. JR/JNR has a slightly larger one.
>>1068772
> Saikyo line only.
If I recall the S-S Line was designed to compete with Odakyu and Tokyu, so there's not much of a point especially when the Tokaido and Tohoku Lines will be directly connected to the Haneda Access Line at the Shin-Hamamatsucho station. The passengers who will really be fucked are those coming from /going to Yokohama, since Haneda Access won't extend to areas south south of the airport (I guess 25 minutes by Airport Express from Keikyu-Yokohama isn't so bad). Also the Yokosuka Line runs underground until Shinagawa, so it won't be connected to Haneda Access. Though there will probably be some workaround about that.
>> 2. Will the Keiyo Line split into Tokyo--Shin-Kiba and Shin-Kiba--Soga sections?
> No.
What's the alternating interval going to be? Is it going to be like 3tph Tokyo-Shinkiba-Omiya-Kawagoe, 3tph Tokyo-Shinkiba-Kaihimmakuhari/Soga?
> Look at the plan clearly: (Most likely Seibu if any through service)-(Yurakucho line)-Toyosu--Toyocho-Sumiyoshi-Oshiage-Yotsugi-Kameari-Yashio-Noda, (Hanzomon line)-Oshiage-Yotsugi-Matsudo
In addition to this, the extensions to Noda/Matsudo will probably be a category 3 operator (like the Toyo Rapid Railway Line for Tozai/Saitama Rapid Railway for Namboku) and tunnel directly underneath abandoned freight lines.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/新金貨物線
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/越中島支線
I have a question of my own. Has it been decided how far the thru service progression will extend? Will Noda-bound Yurakucho trains only start at Wakoshi, or will there be Hanno-Noda and Shinrinkoen-Noda services? Similarly, will Matsudo-bound all start at Shibuya or will it include Dento-Hanzomon interlines (Chuo Rinkan-Matsudo)?
>>1068772
(Continuing due to character limits.)
> Tozai line?
Tozai Line *and* Sobu-Rapid are going to get enormous relief. Ever since the Ueno-Tokyo Line became a relief valve for north-south JR lines, the last major sticking points of congestion have been around Ikebukuro (Shakujikoen gets the worst of it because fuck Shakujikoen) and around Tokyo's waterfront, which has seen a huge population boom (that will only continue up to and after the Olympics).
I wonder if the planned subway extensions will result in thru services being shuffled around on Yurakucho and Fukutoshin. Fukutoshin would be especially interesting, it might require the Hibiya Line taking over some additional Toyoko Line services at Naka-Meguro (which stopped in 2013).
> Yes. Access Express can remain service to Nippori-Ueno. The bottleneck is at NRT.
It would be a huge wasted opportunity not to put Access Express services on the Downtown Direct Access Line. It would be a far less expensive alternative than the Skyliner to get from Narita Airport to Shin-Tokyo. I say have all Skyliners and Access Expresses go to Shin-Tokyo, and restrict service to Nippori/Ueno to Keisei ML Limited Expresses.
>>1070259
1. Transfer isn't bad as you said.
2. Think there's some misunderstandings here. The whole idea for Rinkai-Keiyo is for access to the eastern side so no Tokyo-Shinkiba switchback madness. I get where you are worrying. Shin-Kiba - Shin-Urayasu is doing mainly 11-18tph so there's plenty of room off-peak and chances to divert traffic at rush hour. The timetable seems to allow for 3-tph Rinkai line through service inserted at a glance. Unsure. Concurrently there's the Sobu-Keiyo through service with the link quadrupling Shin-Kiba - Shin-Urayasu, solving your confusion.
3. Shinkin freight line and Etchujima branch are lusciously aligned. Hope the RoW gets expanded for surface and elevated sections. The central circular line in between Yamanote and Musashino line proposed and other future projects could use it.
4. No. Actual details insofar as construction are unknown and undecided. It's classified under the local strategy of the plan. Naturally it gets less priority. Tokyo Direct Access is long-brewed line and Matsudo is new. Doubt inner workings of the service are worked out.
>>1070277
[s]The timetable seems to allow for 3-tph Rinkai line through service inserted at a glance. Unsure. [/s]
>>1070264
1. Would be good to put Toyoko-Hibiya back to service. My picture of it isn't clear (and you and I both don't have their models), will look into it. Wonder when would the eventual Keiyo extension into Chuo line happen. Chuo-Keiyo-Sobu is the endgame ultimate relief.
2. That's one way to put it. My though is to preserve service via Narita Sky Access to both sides.
>>1070259
>>1070277
>In addition to this, the extensions to Noda/Matsudo will probably be a category 3 operator (like the Toyo Rapid Railway Line for Tozai/Saitama Rapid Railway for Namboku) and tunnel directly underneath abandoned freight lines.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/新金貨物線
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/越中島支線
How so? I stated the plan as it is. >>1068772
>>1070281
Hibiya line recently got platform markers for 8 or 7car trains, where no 7 car trains run currently, so something is up
>>1070343
I thought that was just for the 13000/Tobu 70000 which use 20 m cars (but the overall train itself is still 4 metres or so shorter
All smoking cars on Tokkaido-Sanyo Shinkansen would be scrapped in 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
>>1070412
Interesting, is this due to the planed retirement of the 700 series in 2019?
>>1070603
There's no other way they're doing it besides a seriously deep clean of the aircon units and every surface
N700S should be rolling in by then too. It'll be quite monotonous seeing only N700
>>1070412
>Tokkaido-Sanyo Shinkansen
>Tokkaido
There are liberties when it comes to romaji, but this is going a little too far.
特快道wwww
>>1070610
If this were 1964, 特快道 wouldn't be such an off description!
With the way the E235 and the like are going, how long until every surface of the train is LCD and the hanging ads are colour e-ink because the agency doesn't want to retire them?
Where will we find pic related next?
>>1070635
Why don't you export those instead of pic related
>>1070639
Ask the owner of the stock. The 385 is Hitachi A-Train - a relatively copy and paste job, just glue on some UK aesthetic parts like the lights and gangway to keep the auditors happy
It's then probably something bureaucratic like JR East not wanting to bend their Sustina platform over in ways to the liking of the operator. That and Hitachi is already established over there so it makes sense to use the plants - the real reason
But in any case the bleeding edge technology of the E235 proved too much for even JR East to handle for a while. It'll scare the pants off people on the other side of the planet
>>1070635
They'll probably just cascade the E233-0s down that direction in due time when they reach the expiry date around 2021 or so because they're mean like that
>>1069897
mmmmm that is comfy
>>1070722
Help this Anon out?
>>1070687
>>1071243
Why did Japan choose to use the AAR coupler? Why not the Russian one?
>>1071245
Originally the country used a mix of various types, as each isolated line was built to its own standards. The nationalization of the railways into JGR for political reasons led to a desire to standardize to allow all rolling stock to be used over the whole network, especially freight cars which was especially desired by the military for strategic reasons, as some inland lines were specifically made to avoid the vulnerability to naval gunfire of the coastal routes.
>>1071245
The government mandated the use of automatic couplers on all cars on the system in July 1925. The system was transitioning from vacuum brakes to air brakes at this time, with most freight cars equipped with air brakes by April 1927.
>>1071245
If you're interested in the early history and development of japanese railways, I really recommend "Early Japanese Railways 1853-1914" by Dan Free, it's probably one of the best English resources for the history of rail in japan.
>>1071110
> this is the keihin touhoku line bound for ...
this train is so comfy
>>1071297
WAT lol no. AC is weeeeak in the summer on that model. Hell it was over 30 on monday and it was having trouble keeping up. Awash in a sea of (not so) fresh new employees crushing in, bound for their new office was a pack of suck. It hasn't been this bad after golden week for three years.
The only quantifiably worse line on the northside is the Saikyo line, but that's legendarily bad always.
>>1071312
That's a curious observation considering all E233 uses the JR East copy and paste standard 60 kW AU726. Could be the settings applied by the crew? Literature notes the "standard" setting should be 24°C on that line too, slightly lower than the standard of other companies. Maybe it's sensor related. Would you say other single unit trains like Tokyu 5000 and Tokyo Metro trains are colder? Or the older trains with lots of smaller units (though total capacity roughly adds to 60 kW)
Then again, I've seen anything from 22°C to 28°C reported in the normal cars on the Yamanote line Trainnet on a 35°C day
Luggage rack on E5/H5 even-numbered cars (except Gran class car 10) and E6 odd-numbered cars (except Green car car 11) next year.
>>1070343
I think those are for the Tokyo Metro 13000 Series/Tobu 70000 series that were recently introduced for Hibiya/Skytree services, not necessarily indicative of resumed Hibiya/Tokyu service
>>1071312
Yeah, I love the looks of the train, but I noticed that the AC seemed weaker than other lines, maybe has to do with the amount/length of stops letting in warm air? Still think its the best looking of all the E233s
>>1071387
More Olympics preparations?
>>1071439
They should bring back the zero to commemorate the last Olympic games in Tokyo
>>1071439
Ja, notwithstanding the reason cited and prevailing being an increase in visitors and tourists.
>>1071447
>L0
>>1071452
Clever.
>>1071447
I wish they had kept a set for special runs, but I'm sure that when the last was retired in 08 they were pretty quickly cut up. Not too much preservation going on there, once sets are retired from revenue service.
More Sea Side Liner, with the kiha 66/67 sets
>>1071312
>Saikyo line
Something I have been wondering about: Do Japanese joke over 埼京 vs. 最強?
>>1071531
最強痛勤
>>1071505
Preserve until (then) god knows when Chuo Shinkansen opens and frees up capacity on the line? Not a chance.
Wonder how busy would Tokkaido be post-Chuo compared to post-Nagasaki (if it ever makes it) Sanyo-Kyushu, how much can Kyoto and Tokkaido cities support it.
>>1071547
>最強痛勤
快適な響きはあるな
Google finds exactly one result from 2008 for that and it looks like a typo.
>>1071342
subjectively the model before felt a little cooler. something to do the circulation fan and their vanes perhaps, plus what appears to be slightly lower hanging transverse ads possibly blocking circulation more. newer metro cars feel a bit colder too, but I think that has more to do with much stronger circulation fans and vane/outlet placement. some types now have outlets running along the wall/roof seam so you effectively have double circulation, compared to the usual center fan/vane mounts (actually some real old metro cars have retrofitted air ducts that also do the roof/wall seam thing along with the retro upside down caged oscillating fans, and they were surprisingly not bad)
What pissed me off is that they are going to the trouble of installing platform doors, yet not fully enclosing the platform more like the Namboku line, so they could cool the platform areas. That alone would do wonders, though it would require retrofitting huge AC units on the platform though.
Far left field thought: the increased heat is not just due to increased ridership, but nearly everyone now has a smartphone, which does get warm/hot when used in the train because it is active and the cell radio has to work harder being transferred between towers quickly. Everybody has their phones out these days gaming, twittering, instagrammijng, or chatting on Line..
>>1071566
It's probably mostly circulation related or the unit simply isn't running at full cooling capacity. The AU726 is meant to run 120 m^3/min through the main cooling system, with linedeliers just being extra airflow. Usually what happens is they have thresholds above the setpoint where the unit increases speed of the compressors or powers more of them on and it could be unusually high in the particular lineage
The newer trains are meant to also take into account the weight on the bellows to adjust the aircon output
As for platforms, a lot of stations are already cooled even without doors. It would massively increase efficiency, but most stations already have an overkill but underutilised system installed. The Sobu Line platforms at Tokyo Station come to mind. Installed capacity is something like 9060 kW but they only operate at 1/4~1/3 of that to maintain 28°C and a still nasty high humidity (there's a JR East paper on it)
And a lot of Tokyo Metro stations have some sort of installation. There's the ceiling cassette type that can be cold water or refrigerant cooled, the water cooled Daikin Mifujirator style packages (which are pretty good and they go up to ~56 kW and you can just stand in front of them to take in the breeze) and and some newer stations have ducted
All of the misery probably comes from the underutilisation part. It's like seeing all the overkill VRF installations in public and office places and yet the room is hot because someone is penny pinching or wants to appease the ladies
Or you can have extremely stupid installations that feel Japanese in nature where the outdoor unit is right under the platform of the indoor unit so there is no net cooling, just more heat. It would still be cool to stand right in front of I guess
This overkill though. I wonder if they ever even turn all of them on
Retired EF63 going to the scrap heap
>>1071558
I just made it up.
One of the few remaining JNR rail ferries, broken up at dock a few years back IIRC.
Hitachi BR Class 385, ship high in transit for ScotRail.
https://twitter.com/SeasSerenity/status/862612614353793028
>>1072374
>>1072363
The rare occasion of all 3 lines crossing. So jelly
>>1072070
Doesn't JR still run a ferry to Miyajima?
Or is that a ferry for trains?
>>1072485
Until the tunnels and bridges were complete, JNR (and later JR) actually had quite an impressive vessel fleet. This class of ships was among the last retired as the Seikan Tunnel was completed, but until then they shuttled trains between Honshu and Hokkaido.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9D%92%E5%87%BD%E9%80%A3%E7%B5%A1%E8%88%B9
>>1072498
>>1072450
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>>1072537
Waterfront lines/TX extension/expanded Haneda access/Keiyo-Sobu link at Shin-Urayasu are all things that should have been done 10, 15 years ago. Why is it only now that the projects are underway? Is it because of land rights issues? Is it because the population boom on the waterfront was a recent occurrence?
>>1073539
> Ueno-Tokyo, Shonan-Shinjinku, Narta Sky Access, TX, Fuktoshin Line, Yurikamome... are all things that should have been done 20, 25 years ago
Look at the past history of them planning first. North-West Corridor takes priority over East-West and Odaiba wasn't developed until the recent two decades.
When will the yokosuka line get some new trains i'm bored of these ugly grey worms fug
>>1074055
It was meant to be life expired by 2010 but then they refurbished them lel
Maybe 2025 but hey it's better than a 115
Apparently while I wasn't paying attention, JR Hokkaido actually scrapped the KiHa 285 DMU prototype around two months ago. So they essentially spent 2.5 Billion Yen for practically nothing
https://web.archive.org/web/20170303021120/http://dd.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/life-topic/life-topic/1-0374633.html
>>1071749
Even then it seems accurate enough since it is pretty much a pain in the ass commute
what are the emblems on the front of trains called in japanese?
>>1074121
ヘッドマーク
>>1074121
ヘッドマーク, which translates to Head Mark.
Keihan just revealed its first modified Premium Car for its 8000 Series EMU, which comes with much better amenities at a cost of around 400~500 Yen extra
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/05/19/381/
>>1074121
It is known as Headmark (ヘッドマーク), but it has become more rare for passenger trains since the round ones we usually see are mainly used for locomotive-hauled trains and they become more rare in Japan
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAvF7fSMB9e3ZC-d4Q
telegram chat, for rail autism. please
>>1074131
>http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/05/19/381/
Ugh I remember riding the 8000 at the start of a two day hangover after a big night at Triangle in Amemura
Still feel a little sick looking at it
>>1074224
Are those hobos?
They look quite tidy.
Kyushu Sweet Train, using heavily rebuilt kiha 47s
Seven stars in Kyushu, also running on the Omura line.
Kiha 40 modified to resemble an older DMU for a movie.
Newest episode of Japan Railway Journal talking about onboard trolley services, kind of ironic though since it is kind of waning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQjIdRRSeBY
>>1074340
Blue tarp structure is almost always hobos. On the flipside, you don't see Japanese homeless begging for money nearly as much as you do in western countries
But a story
>wonder where all the passengers in the carriage went
>strong stench of piss
>look up and notice hobo while everyone else in the car is pressed up against the ends to get away from it
>aircon turns on (december) and hobo leaves at next stop
>>1075194
It would've been nice to keep the vending machines on the Tokaido/Sanyo Shinkansen trains at least for those desperate situations on a Kodama. They already did have a slight premium for the privilege of being on a train
Am I doing this right?
https://youtu.be/EAOCtJtk2oo
>>1075541
>vertical video
No. No you are not. Don't pick up a camera again until you learn the basics.
>>1075548
A fair point. I'll take it into account.
https://youtu.be/JobeuvzxzeE
>>1075548
Maybe this is better friendo?
https://youtu.be/AK-oEbUtInk
Let me know your thoughts.
>>1074179
cananyone confirm whether or not this is a total scam
>>1075410
>desperate situations on a Kodama
If you are not in a hurry, why not get off the train and buy stuff at a station/platform store?
https://youtu.be/uxNNcjCshwc
I like this
>>1076004
this is some serious comfy right here
>>1076004
> * Chuo line rapid
>>1076100
I think he meant you used the term for the service incorrectly since it is supposed to be Chuo-Line Rapid (快速) instead of Ltd. Express (特急)
>>1076102
Fair point.
Apparently some rural lines still use bamboo for crossing gates.
https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170601/k00/00e/040/213000c
The uniforms are changing after 25 years.
>>1070264
For tge Narita part, can't they dual gauge the incoming/exit track so that both train companies can ise one side in and another side out instead of operating single way track line for both companies?
>>1064037
After Tokyo experienced the lack of electricity due to Fukushima incident when they still have enough electricity for Kansai area, but those excess capacity cannot transfer over to Tokyo due to different Hertz, and they are still using two different Hertz, I don't think anything can make them change.
>>1071505
>>1071447
>>1072498
Wish they would have kept some to connect Russia and Korea...
>>1074100
well, sink cost, there are omly so much that can be done without further putting money into it
>>1077939
Seems like they were pretty worn out by the time they were retired, not even concerting the different gauges or low traffic density between the countries. Still are some beautiful ships, the lines are very nice.
>>1077931
1. Different signalling.
2. Ample capacity for their current use.
3.JR East has a high potential for service disruption from their complicated timetables in Tokyo, especially Sobu-Yokosuka and Shonan-Shinjinku, also them sharing a level junction and the Tokkaido freight line.
JR West's Hiroshima Branch just took delivery and revealed the new 35-4000 Series passenger cars, which will replace the current 40+ year old 12 Series passenger cars for the SL Yamaguchi service in September. The design / motif of the passenger cars is based on the old 35 Series, which were built before World War II but will obviously be built in modern standards
https://response.jp/article/2017/06/04/295701.html
>>1075947
Only if it stops long enough for you and the machines/stores/etc. are close enough to actually complete the task, then again:
>Not being well prepared for the train ride
>Actually take the Kodama (unless you are going to the "smaller" destinations)
SHIGGY DIGGY DOO
>>1077931
I have to admit it's weird as shit to me but it seems to work for their current timetables
>>1078600
>Only if it stops long enough
Well, on the Shinkansen trains are generally frequent enough to simply take the next train.
That said, it's been a while since I have looked at a time table, but I remember Kodama and Hikari being relatively sparse compared to Nozomi.
>Actually take the Kodama
For Japanese it makes sense, since they are a lot cheaper. For foreigners with the Golden Ticket it makes no fucking sense, though.
>>1078709
It is one of those "you can do it but it is kind of counterproductive since most people would be wise enough to prepare beforehand" things
>I remember Kodama and Hikari being relatively sparse compared to Nozomi.
For the Tokaido Shinkansen Hikari is 2 / hr and Kodama is 1 / hr on average
>For Japanese it makes sense, since they are a lot cheaper.
The price difference used to be a lot more, but it got reduced back in around 2003 so it isn't too bad now. This chart shows the difference (top is before the change and bottom is after, brackets denote different sales tax rates)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%AE%E3%81%9E%E3%81%BF_(%E5%88%97%E8%BB%8A)#.E7.89.B9.E6.80.A5.E6.96.99.E9.87.91
>For foreigners with the Golden Ticket it makes no fucking sense, though.
The Japan Rail Pass pretty much forces you to take the Hikari anyway, but for the West JR pass you'd be foolish to not take Nozomi unless you are going to somewhere Nozomi doesn't stop at all or occasionally (ie. Himeji since most Nozomi trains skip that one)
After JR Shikoku, it is JR Central's turn to build new DMUs for its limited express services but instead of the standard diesel engine + torque converters it will be diesel-electric hybrid. A 4-car pre-production set will be built in 2019 and production is expected to begin in 2022 to replace the KiHa 85 series DMUs running on the Hida and Nanki services
http://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000034155.pdf
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASFB13H19_T10C17A6MM0000/
Why is Japan having so much difficulty with developing a variable gauge train when other countries already have them in service?
>>1081277
Why are you having so much difficulty with comprehending?
1. Cape gauge - Standard gauge
2. HSR (300km/h)
Name one country that have such high speed at such gauge difference.
>>1079044
Sakura for Himeji.
Power of Sanyo-Kyushu Shinkansen.
>>1081296
Not him, but I'm quite curious the specifications for some of the current variable gauge systems for comparison purposes.
http://tabiris.com/archives/nagasaki-shinkansen-4/
From the link (which takes quite a bit from the Nikkei article) there's a few things we know about the Nagasaki Shinkansen and the FGT projects:
- It would open using the "Relay System" in Takeo-Onsen Station similar to the arrangement in Shin-Yatsushiro Station had (Shinkansen and conventional limited express in the same island platform) in 2022
- When the project began it was slated a single FGT set would operate in 2022 and the rest (number unknown) would enter service by 2025
- In a press conference in late May this year, JR Kyushu's President (?) Aoyagi Toshihiko mentioned that the technology with the FGT is sound but the cost of the trainsets and their maintenance (2~3x compared to a conventional Shinkansen set) are uneconomical.
The official announcement happens in July, and there seems to be 3 options
1) The Takeo-Onsen and Nagasaki section will be built in narrow gauge
2) Keep the relay system
3) Full standard gauge configuration (re-gauge tracks between Shin-Tosu and Takeo-Onsen?)
>>1081297
Most of them don't stop in Himeji in the middle of the day bar a few for some reason
>>1080089
Sheesh, it looks like it came from the early 2000's. Dated from the get-go.
>>1081763
Considering that the last new physical design that JR Central made for regular passenger trains is the 313 Series EMU, which started rolling out in 1999 (the KiHa 25 DMU came out only a few years ago, but since it shared the same physical design so I will exclude that) I'm not particularly surprised.
[lolnospoiler] The recent pre-production set for JR Shikoku's 2600 Series DMU also looks in it is from the 2000s too [/lolnospoiler]
>>1081885
Yeah, no shit, looks like it belongs with Nankai.
>>1066238
Is that Akihabara?
This is in Kyoto on my (so far) only trip to Japan back in fall 2012.
>>1066891
I did!
It was socked in on my out to Kyoto, but it was clear heading back to Tokyo.
>>1067246
Translation pls?
>>1082044
Jet Train >よし、プランBだ
>alright, plan B
Railjet >みんあ大好きシーメンス
>Everyone loves Siemens
A reference to the GTO-VVVF sound of the Taurus/ÖBB 1016/1116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywwXOeVRQOA
IC3 >ゴリラみたいな顔っていわれた…
>They said my face looks like gorilla?
ALE601 >ニャーン
>nyan~
Italo >フェラーリ同じ赤
>same red as ferrari
Javelin >このー木何の木気になる木ー
Seems to be the tune that is a mainstay of Hitachi commercials (as it's the manufacturer) about some tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYNC8JzV5j8
>>1082089
>Everyone loves Siemens
I wasn't sure if it was that or Siemens loves everybody.
>>1082043
Beautiful. Any recommendations as to when the Fuji is visible?
Both of my trips were March/April, so it may be a seasonal thing.
>SURUGA GROUP
That's probably not 駿河屋, right?
I remember them residing far away from the coast.
>>1082094
I was there in October-November. The weather went kinda back and forth between clouds with some rain to sunny. I've heard winter is also relatively dry and clear in Japan, so that may be another good time to see the mountain; plus it'll obviously be covered in snow then.
I don't know the name of the town where that pic was taken, just that I guess it's where you have the best view of Fuji along the Tokaido Line.
>>1082094
>Any recommendations as to when the Fuji is visible?
Winter (or in dry seasons in general).
>SURUGA GROUP
Suruga is the name of the bay under the Fujisan, there'll be hundreds of companies/etc. with that name in the area.
>>1082189
I took it with a rather old digital camera (circa 2002), so I don't think it had any of those features.
Anyone have any pics of the lines and stations abandoned after the tsunami (before or after)?
[ICYMI] India buys 25 E5 train sets for Mumbai–Ahmedabad HSR 350km/h operation.
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/single-view/view/indian-railways-to-order-25-high-speed-trains.html
>>1064014
Yeah but they make 0 effort to integrate the boxy shit in to the design
>>1082440
Fukkin sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsxG3OfdIIs
There used to be a vid of Miku singing the station names to the tune of the Doraemon song, but that seems to have been taken down.
Newest episode of Japan Railway Journal, discussing the KiHa 40 series of DMU and how it is being refurbished as Joyful Trains around Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmVZoq1Bzr4
West JR's TWILIGHT EXPRESS MIZUKAZE cruise train just launched, so pictures of the fanfare received from various stations for its first service blah blah blah
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2017/06/18/032/
Japanese Communist party document from year 1983 about why JNR should not be divide and privatized
>>1083138
JR Tokai should be forced to buy JR Hokkaido.
>>1083307
Sad thing is current outlook seems to be even worse than these propaganda ..
West Japan Railways announced they will build a new long distance train to connect the Keihanshin area to Sanyo/Sanin regions. There are no technical details on the trains itself but they say it will enter service in 2020
https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/2017/06/page_10635.html
>>1083307
>JR Central supports JR Shikoku
Wouldn't West JR makes more sense due to proximity and their lines are connected by the Seto Bridge?
>>1083420
The example 6-car train arrangement have one car each for green car seat + regular seat + regular compartment + free space + nobinobi + green car individual rooms, and it's planned to entirely run within JR West area? Can't see how it would actually work...
>>1083420
And I am reading other media report that say it will be modified from series 117 instead of new train
>>1083420
Ah, seems like while the train with capacity of 100 ppl, the supply of nobinobi is limited to less-than-30-seats as it is not an actual sleeper train in itself, so when operating in night time, there will be some travelers that have to sit all night in the train without a bed, but considering the target audience that seems to be deemed acceptable
And seems like sone sort of small scale hybrid power system have beeb installed on the Twilight Express which would collect electricitu when brake is applied and use them during acceleration (like hybrid car?)
>>1083664
The word is regenerative breaking.
>>1083420
Financially.
金沢―敦賀間の並行在来線、特急存続へJR貨物委託案 与党案
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLZO17673250U7A610C1LB0000/
Maintaining conventional lines limited express to Kanazawa after Tsuruga extension. The Hokuriku Shinkansen platform's 200m distance precludes direct transfer a la relay. See Thunderbird and Shirasagi remain in operation for years more to come.
Not by JR Freight, seriously?
>>1083671
>Not by JR Freight, seriously?
Well, apparently at least cooperating with JR Freight:
>貨物列車に旅客用の車両を連結し、一緒に走らせるというもの
>>1083708
Freight trains don't run like regular all-day passenger service in whatever case.
There's little incentive for JR Freight to adjust to accommodating it. Timetable is tight for them.
What is the speed of HR Freight trains running on that segment of line?
>>1064250
Fuck you're full of bullshit
>>1083841
That's a lot of TP, especially since that's probably single ply...
>>1083778
While that section of the Hokuriku Main Line between Tsuruga and Kanazawa has a maximum operating speed of 130 km/h, but freight is limited to a maximum of 110 km/h (JRF's EF510 has a maximum operating speed of 110 km/h) or whatever the container cars' rated speed (varies depending on type of car and load, but also maxes out at 110 km/h)
It seems that after much debating, JR East and Fukushima Prefecture Government have reached an agreement to restore the 27.6 km section of the Tadami Line between Aizu-Kawaguchi and Tadami. The line was closed in 2011 due to floods and the line would reopen in 202 and that section will be transferred to the Fukushima Prefecture Goverment (so Third Sector Railway), and one of the reasons to restore the line is due to it acting as an alternative means of transportion if the National Route 252 is closed due to snow
2011 stats for that section prior to its closing
Ridership: 49 passengers / km / day
Operating Ratio: 6700 (335 Million Yen in expenses vs 5 Million Yen in revenue)
Restoration Cost: 8.1 Billion Yen (JR East will pay for a third while the local governments will pay the rest)
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXLASDG23H8K_Y7A620C1CC0000/
Where is here? Do you know?
Samurai rides local train.
View is beautiful.
https://youtu.be/VfZYWHKuR4E
JR Central has recently announced more details about the new N700S (Supreme) Shinkansen EMUs. Some of the changes include:
- More aerodynamic nose (called Dual Supreme Wing)
- Dual LED headlights
- Interior will have LED lighting for consistent brightness
- Side panel and air vents are integrated for better circulation of air
- Improved seat designs for better comfort and all regular class seats will have power outlet (right now only the ends of regular class cars have outlets)
- Various convenience improvments
http://jr-central.co.jp/news/release/_pdf/000034313.pdf
>>1086012
The hiragana on the pillar says Sasabe. After doing a bit of digging it seems like it is the Sasabe Station of Nose Electric Railway in Hyogo Prefecture
>>1086019
You are genius.Thank you!!
>>1086012
How old is that train? I'm not an expert on Japanese trains (I'm a burger), but it looks at least 40 years old.
>>1086061
Looks like it's an ex-Hankyu 5100 series. Manufactured 1971-4.
>>1085590
That segment is comfy, and the snow there is brutal to the buses so I can imagine the locals are appreciative.
>>1085590
Does that go through the exclusion zone?
If so, I'd imagine it'll be like with the "ghost stations" on the East Berlin sections of the West Berlin subway when the Wall was still up.
>>1086073
Saw some of the other pics above. Are there still a lot of '70s and '80s trains in service in Japan? (In Burgerland we still have late '70s Superliners on the long-distance Amtrak trains, and I think the Boston subway only recently retired some '70s-era cars.)
>>1086263
This is for the Tadami Line that was closed from floods in 2011, not the section of the Joban Line that was closed from the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake. Regarding the restoration of the Joban Line it appears that besides the three stations (Shinchi, Sakamoto, and Yamashita) that were moved inwards all other stations are keeping their original locations so they might be close enough to (or even go through) the exclusion zone
Pic sorta related, this is the K202 set of the 651 Series EMU (front) and K534 set of the 415-1500 Series EMU (back) that were abandoned in the Haranomachi Station in the 2011 Earthquake. After 5 years they were finally removed and scrapped in March 2016
>>1086272
It'll go through.
Like the National Route 6 that currently passes through.
>>1083671
How about Toyama? If I remembered correctly there were sone dissatisfaction that they now need to change trains to reach Kansai
News from Jun21:
JR East and JR West announce another Shinkansen through service between Sendai and Kanazawa for group tour in September and October
Sept 4 Sendai 1035→Fukushima 1059→Koriyama 1114→Nagano 1314→Unatsuki Onsen 1407→Toyama 1420→Shin-Takaoka 1429→Kanazawa 1445
Sept 6 Kanazawa 1716→Shin-Takaoka 1730→Toyama 1740→Unatsuki Onsen 1753→Nagano 1840→Koriyama 2045→Fukushima 2108→Sendai 2134
E7 would be used to commerce the service
Related tour products is now selling via 10 different tour company
And then, in late October, there will be through service from Kanazawa to Sendai and details are still under adjustment.
Finally got around to uploading some footage I got of the maglev.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnxQDvyP8Lc
>>1086801
Does this roll through Omiya between Nagano and Koriyama though?
>>1087130
Of course it have to, there are no other standard gauge rail in-between
>>1086977
That'll take some getting used to if you live near the tracks. And Bay Area residents think BART is loud...
>>1087130
Omiya is used as a switchback for this kind of trips, but not used to pick up / drop off any passengers most of the time
>>1087169
Most of the above ground Chuo Shinkansen is expected to be walled off, also a point of contention with prefectural governments who have to toss up between reducing noise and wanting passengers to have a good view (and possibly spend money visiting in the future) - kinda like how they do the expressways. Otherwise, Shinkansen is regulated to have strict maximum sound levels and they'll install soundproofing in residences if you live close enough and it's still exceeding acceptable limits
It appears that JR East will be building a new experimental Shinkansen EMU in the near future. The set will be called ALFA-X (Advanced Labs for Frontline Activity in rail eXperimentation) and be built in 2019, besides general technological advances and improving winter operations it appears that JR East will attempt to determine feasibility of increasing the operating speed of Tohoku Shinkansen to 360 km/h
http://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2017/20170705.pdf
On less exciting news, it seems that JR East has decided on what DMUs will be replacing the KiHa 40 series DMU
Hachinohe Line: KiHa E130-500 DMUs (entering service later this year)
Niigata / Akita Area: GV-E400 Diesel-Electric DMU
For GV-E400 DMU, the pre-production set (1 single car set and 1 two car set) will enter testing in 2018 and enter service in 2019 for Niigata area and 2020 for Akita area. An open tender was issued by JR East but we don't know who is actually building them yet
http://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2017/20170706.pdf
>>1087586
But will they be allowed to operate at any speed beyond 260 in regular operation?
>>1089567
Since this is the Tohoku Shinkansen, most of the line already operates at 260 km/h or above
Tokyo - Omiya: 110 km/h (due to in extremely dense urban area and had to appease citizens)
Omiya - Utsunomiya: 275 km/h
Utsunomiya - Morioka: 320 km/h
Morioka - Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto: 260 km/h (140 km/h inside Seikan Tunnel)
Right now the limiting factors for operating above 260 km/h beyond Morioka (besides noise restrictions, wear and tear, and Seikan Tunnel) seems to be that JR East basically cheapened out on the catanery between Morioka and Hachinohe as they used Copper-Steel Simple Catanery (260 km/h) instead of Heavy Compound Catanery (320 km/h) and Precipitation-Hardened Copper (PHC) Simple Catanery (350 km/h). If they get most of those technical problems sorted on then it is possible to have Tohoku Shinkansen operation beyond 320 km/h, but the problem remains on whether JR East actually wants to do it
Why do some of the trains have JR branded codpieces over the coupler?
>>1064245
That is not actually true four of them are preserved, including 581 8: at Kyushu Railway History Museum in Kitakyushu, Fukuoka, 581 19: at the Truck Kingdom in Bifuka, Hokkaido, 581 31: adjacent to Hachinohe City Museum in Hachinohe, Aomori, and 581 35: at the Kyoto Railway Museum.
Some Anon want to explain to me why the Japanese metro systems aren't fully automated if they require down-to-the-second precision?
>>1090176
Isn't that the usual "think of the humans" bullshit?
What would our dear 運転士 do, if they were to be replaced by computers?
Tokyo 2020 would have been a great opportunity to introduce an autonomous railway system and present it to the world.
The technology has been there for ages (and is partially even already installed on the trains and lines).
That's why on a larger scale it will happen on the street first. No one cares about cab, bus and truck drivers.
>>1087222
Grand show of turning seats?
I always found Japanese railways to be so aesthetic. I really love there level crossings here, wish we had this here in the states.
>>1090219
So one man trains like the Namboku line aren't a thing then?
>>1090219
>1. ATO drivers are still practicing manual driving daily as training and back up.
Sure, having a fall-back raises the level of reliability. The ultimate question is how much a railway company is willing to pay for a fall-back that's rarely of use.
>2. Drivers can now double as a conductor. It's a service -"Think of the humans" is about customers as well.
No, that's for business management reasons. You need a driver on a train anyway (at this point), but you can save yourself the conductor by forcing his duties on the driver. That's ワンマン. Highly economical.
>>1090176
There are actually numerous lines in Japan that have implemented various degree of automatic operation
Although fully automatic operation is still primarily focused on "New Transport" systems.
And then there are also some lines like Kokura Lines that were using automatic operation, but then decided to switch to manned operation because it'll be cheaper
Japan Railway Journal Episode 36
Airport Express Lines: How Competition is Improving the Ride into the City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75nP4tvugU8
>>1090911
Thanks for the link.
Here is a channel I stumbled over recently:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZrNO2srEiRzoWtvjlLnmlg
A lot of interesting videos relating to Japanese railway.
Haven't seen it mentioned here, so I hope it's something new.