Why can't Ameripigs do this?

Because it costs shitloads of money and very few states are willing to commit the funds needed.

That said, this could quickly change if the rumors are true and Trump does allow states to toll highways. In which case, the Class 1s will lobby the big states (CA, IL, NY) for massive tolls which will cause rail to be immensely profitable again. A US HSR network could be built in under a decade in this scenario as NIMBYs can't fight armies of lawyers and lobbyists.

>>1058737
Freight, passenger rail let alone high speed will probably never by profitable unless they entity that's operating the service owns the track

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>>1058737
>america didn't have hsr
>sudan have hsr
>therefore, sudan is superior than america

>>1058737
Because geography. We don't all live in tiny, super dense countries dipshit.

>>1058779
That's best America can produce? And you call yourself Superpower?

>>1058776
Then why are tracks owned by cargo companies ?

This was a big part of trumps agenda. Another problem is that highspeed rail from Chicago to LA would still take a day.

I think there is something to be said for the romanticism of Amtrak.

My wife and I routinely take a couple weeks off work (I work remotely on board) and get one of the superliner cars. Go up the coast, then seattle to chicago, chicago to louisianna, then LA, and then back up home.

Plus we are degenerates and like picking up women on the train. A lot of fun.

>>1058779

Private property rights are strong here, as they should be.

>>1058827
That entire first line is blatantly false.

>>1058851

Clearly you never listened to a single one of his rally speeches then. You do know comedy central isn't a hard news source right?

>>1058851
the whole post was false

>>1058853
You dumb fucking nigger, he passingly mentioned HSR ONCE. And it was only to say, Japan and China have a lot of it, not that he would push for any here. His cuntswab administration already cut funding to Caltrain electrification, which aside from being beneficial on it's own, is critical for the completion of the CAHSR system.

So his actions directly and explicitly prove you wrong.

Blow your fucking brains out,

We are obsessed with cars and have largely discarded long-distance passenger trains as a society from the 1960s onwards.

>>1058823
>Then why are tracks owned by cargo companies ?
All of those companies used to have passenger service, but they were losing tons of money on them by the 1960s and gave them all up to Amtrak to stop the bleeding.

>>1058827

his budget proposal cuts local rail grants and amtrak long distance you gullible autist

>>1058779

pretty much

>>1058872
so only parts that are not working are selectively given to the new company ?

>>1058878
Long-distance passenger rail transport literally was the part that was not working.

>>1058882
that's what i'm saying..

>>1058884

yeah youve got it.

rail was hurting bad in the 1960s, passenger the worst. basically, every railroad was on the verge of bankruptcy, so the feds negotiated a lot of consolidations and deregulations to keep things moving.

one piece of which was that everybody could dump their passenger operations onto amtrak (the national passenger rail corporation)

this is an oversimplification and will probably make somebody sperg out and post details, but if you just needed thirty seconds of the history, it's as above. or go to wikipedia.

>>1058737
Ameripigs don't live together close enough you bitch.

>>1058779
>narrrow gauge single track country
Wow indeed superior.
Oh besides they use narrow gauge now seeking HSR. Same conclusion.

>>1058827
>Another problem is that highspeed rail from Chicago to LA would still take a day.
Won't be a problem because there won't be one. HSR corridors, Auto Train, flying, long distance in that order.

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Many of your trains just look outdated and slow.You definitely do need an upgrade

America missed HSR train decades ago. Meanwhile passenger transport derailed. I doubt there is any hope.

>>1058937
>Many of your trains just look outdated and slow.You definitely do need an upgrade

Top questions always raised whenever topics like this come up: "How much will it cost and who is going to pay for it?"

>>1058957
>Meanwhile passenger transport derailed
Figuratively and literally

This happened just a couple of days ago:
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2017/03/24/penn-station-service-suspended-after-amtrak-train-derails/99581398/

There will be certain interests using stories like this as propaganda to make trains look bad. Sickening.

>>1058737

This looks like technological advancement too much. Americunts don't like that.

>>1059173

A lot, and motorists.

>>1058827
>>1058853

Trump is only pro-rail because it is rumored he will push for Interstate road tolling, a thing which the Tea Party has wanted for about a decade now. IF he does it, then most big states (specifically CA, IL, NY, TX, GA) will either setup state DOT run tolls or sell their freeways off entirely. This benefits rail as suddenly the government wouldn't be subsidizing auto transport anymore, which means much higher costs for drivers.

But again, it's all rumors and nothing has been proposed, policywise.

>>1058861

>His cuntswab administration already cut funding to Caltrain electrification,

No, just deferred it. At the risk of sounding like an apologist this probably has more to do with incompetence than it does malice. He had Chao punt the problem to Congress, where funding will be pulled in the House Budget but readded by Fienstien in the Senate Budget, as was the case with CAHSR's PIRRA money last time.

>>1059699
>Trump is only pro-rail because it is rumored he will push for Interstate road tolling,
That would get struck down so damn fast it would make people's heads spin.

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>>1058737

Why can't Europoors do this?

>>1059760
Europe is blessed by history and geography. Distances are short. Also everything is close to a coast/harbour or at least a big river. Most goods travel by ship.

>>1059902
No, most travel by truck in Euroland.

Check it out.
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Freight_transport_statistics

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>>1058737
Why can't Japs do this?

90 percent of intercity goods shipment is done by truck in japan

>>1059924
Japan is fucking tiny compared to the US. They don't need huge 70mph freight trains covering hundreds of miles of fuck all to bring them burgers

>>1059702

Struck down from whom? Half his party supports it because it means they can gut USDOT's budget. Democrats can be cajoled to go along, because it'd benefit big cities (who could then effectively charge an entry fee for all motor vehicles). The old GOP probably isn't willing to fight it anymore.

But again it's all rumors.

>>1059938

>They don't need huge 70mph freight trains covering hundreds of miles of fuck all to bring them burgers

wow rude, I enjoy my farm fresh food made possible through America's railroads

>>1058737
because the distances between where and wherever in the continental US are functionally impractical to build infrastructure for HSR when air hubs are already everywhere.

>>1058861
california here, funding the browndoggle or any of our bureaucratic wastes is a mistake

>>1059699
>Trump is only pro-rail because it is rumored he will push for Interstate road tolling, a thing which the Tea Party has wanted for about a decade now. IF he does it, then most big states (specifically CA, IL, NY, TX, GA) will either setup state DOT run tolls or sell their freeways off entirely. This benefits rail as suddenly the government wouldn't be subsidizing auto transport anymore, which means much higher costs for drivers.
>setup state DOT run tolls

trump's domestic policies are exactly what will move america toward what liberals want; a more european style culture

>>1060222
>trump's domestic policies
Don't confuse late-night tweets with "domestic policies". The guy can't even sign an executive order anymore without having an on-camera meltdown. Dealing with people who are not yes men is not his strong suit. And yet somehow, he's going to build a giant interstate passenger rail network?

>>1060221

Prop 1A (CAHSR) benefits Norcal far more than it does Socal. In case it isn't obvious, Prop 1A is specifically written to unfuck the Bay Area, Tri-Valley, and San Joaquin area transit. Hence why Prop 1A specifically demands an HSR terminus within San Francisco's downtown area, because otherwise the state would terminate trains in the dump that is Jack London Square. For this reason, it's also why San Jose gets a stop because San Jose is where ACE (another future Prop 1A project) terminates in.

For comparison LA has both Measures R and M, and Metrolink only really needs run-through tracks at LAUS to get everything sorted.

>>1060222

Presently it's just rumors. Trump himself hasn't really done anything in regards to transportation yet. Whatever happens will be in his first budget.

>>1060223

>And yet somehow, he's going to build a giant interstate passenger rail network?

Not himself, the existing industry. All he has to do is allow states to toll highways, which there is bipartisan support for. Toll roads themselves have been proven to work in Texas and Florida, two GOP states. But again it's all rumors, we'll have to wait and see over the next year. Transportation policy is not a thing which forms quickly.

>>1058861
>is critical for the completion of the CAHSR system.
Nah. It's only critical to satisfying hypocritical libtard NIMBYs in SanFran that don't want HSR track going into San Francisco. Caltrain electrification, while a good idea, makes CAHSR slower and worse. We're already taking property away from farmers. It's only fair to take it from libcucks in the Bay area.

Also, Trump repeatedly mentioned infrastructure, including trains, multiple times.

>>1060223
>a giant interstate passenger rail network
Anyone that thinks that would ever work is a colossal retard. American high-speed rail will be local, as the existing HSR projects, like CAHSR, the Texas HSR venture, Acela (not currently fully HSR but would be if Amtrak wasn't cucked by the government), and the project Florida's been bouncing on it's dick for two decades, are. An interstate HSR network in the US makes no sense because shit is just too spread out.

>>1060247

honestly I could see the lakeshore limited or cardinal getting pumped up to 125 mph, but only because they go through ohio and indiana

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>>1058827
no im not going to fucking take the bait
eat shit

>>1058737

republicans

>>1060250
Yeah, upgrading the whole existing network to higher top speeds of 160 or 200km/h is the more doable pragmatic option.

>>1058828
>prioritising the feels of suburban NIMBY retards over the actual fucking needs of your people

Ameritards should just mass suicide already.

>>1060242
Your entire post contradicts itself. You understand that, right?

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>>1061221

Public projects are subject to public review. Private projects are not.

This is why freight railroads can streetrun freight trains wherever they want to, but light rail can't be built outside designated business districts (and only if the local chamber of commerce is bought off). Amtrak only exists because it utilizes the existing freight tracks.

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>>1058737
The answer lies partly in your digits. The 737. We like flying, despite the cavity searches courtesy of TSA

>>1058737
Might get shit thrown at for this statement but I don't think America should invest in true high speed rail right now like France or Japan but instead star trying to model our system after the only other English speaking that has a better rail network then us, the UK.

For example instead of building a 200+ mph bullet train, first get at least a US version of the interCity 125 on some of the routes. The first one that springs to mind is the acela which despite having a top speed of 150 mph only averages around 80, so first thing first would upgrade the track so it at least breaks into the triple digits.

Then the next step would be upgrading amtraks"higher-speed routes" so there at least 30 mins to 1 hour faster than driving which would include:

The Lincoln Service from Chicago to St. Louis (which probably would be the easiest since a good chunk of it already allows for speeds of 110 mph)
The Empire Service from New York City to Albany
The Keystone from Philadelphia to Harrisburg
The Blue water from Chicago to Port Huron
And the Pacific Surfliner from Los Angeles to San Diego

>>1061505
That's super comfy.

>>1058737
make it matte black and go twice as fast and then we'll talk

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>>1061736
It's twice as fast and the soot from the gas turbine generator is getting there

>>1061768
>gas turbine generator
Why? I thought it got electricity from the rails.

>>1061768
look at those tasty buildings in the back. I love Japanese architecture.

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>>1061505
>>1061644
make coal great again