Fapable bikes thread. Post "the one".

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>>1038540
Ugh, so boring

>>1038545
Obviously you need a more refined taste to appreciate a surly ECR with a carbon belt Rohloff drive train, hbar handlebars and a fine brooks saddle. That Eddie Merikx is "hrng" tho.

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>>1038545
The shifters and derailleurs are a turn off on that though. They look so out of place.

>>1038548
>this is what surlyfags actually believe

>>1038555
Find me another cro-moly 29+ built for touring and I will gladly agree with you. Especially because that frame is "wew lad" priced at $700.

>>1038557
The trek 920 looks based. Not + but his much off road do you plan to do while touring?

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>>1038560
Forgot pic.

>>1038567
What the hell am I looking at?

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>>1038557
Well, there's the Salsa Fargo, which while not truly 29+, will fit a 2.4" wide 29er tire. And geo for drop bars! Definitely designed for offroad touring.

On the flip side, the Tumbleweed Prospector - pic related. It's a genuine 29+ bike - it'll fit a 29x3" tire. Or a 27.5x3.25". Or a real 26x4" fatbike tire. Standard 135mm rear dropout spacing and 135mm spacing for the front fork as well. Derailleur hanger for geared drivetrains but an EBB for single speed. Standard 73mm BSA threaded BB so you can use normal MTB cranks.

>>1038557
Thing is why would you tour on a 29er

>>1038613

As opposed to what? 29'' wheels are generally stronger than a 700c wheel and offer a smoother ride than a 26'' or 27.5''.

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I just want a full carbon Warbird with PDW fenders and bike packing bags

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I just want a rad rigid steel monstercross, like this Black Cat.

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I want to build a wheelset with these rims.

>>1038647
This looks amazing, really cool frame... but a thumbshifter on the top of the bars? Whyyyyyy?

>>1038582
An art

>>1038548
Yeah, the drivetrain is cool - but the bike is really boring to look at, so it's not fappable.

>>1038540
More like cringy nike thread

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comin' fo yo ass playin', ama ridin' n da rashque

>>1038647
What's up with those brake levers?

>>1038676

RELAXED
GEOM
SS

>>1038560
the 920 is aluminum though.
>>1038557
marin four corners, genesis vegabond, spec-ed AWOL,

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I just really want a light and sexy cyclocross touring bike. :'(

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>>1038540
>>1038561
>>1038567
>>1038592
>>1038676
>bikes with a single speed

>>1038683
What do you mean? They're the Cane Creek SCR-5 levers; perfectly normal dropbar-levers without STI shifting.

>>1038726
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hub_gear
>>1038727
Don't mind me, the photo threw me off, for a second I thought it was some sort of double lever

>>1038728
Naisu.
A guy here has a lot of broken bikes and parts, I saw a wheel like that, I thought it had a dynamo. Never saw a hub gear before

>>1038613
I want to do ride the divide at some point and also the Virginia MTB trail.

>>1038650
Trek made the right choice keeping that retro look

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Hungarian work horse

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>>1038828
Nice looking frame with some sort of Columbus tubing. But what is it and is it affordable?

>>1038567
>>1038647
>>1038725
>>1038827
>>1038828
>Headtube ends an inch above the top tube
Fuck that shit man, absolutely ruined.

Either raise the top tube if it won't compromise standover too much, shorten the headtube (with the added advantage of being able to slam that stem even further), or slope the top tube.

>>1038851
No, thank you. Go jerk to some matt black Venge.

>>1038852
Why no?

>>1038853
Because it giver either lateral flex on the front end or a harsh riding bike - depending on which of your retarded cosmetic preference we implement. Why would you want to fuck the ride quality up, anon?

>>1038854
It would make fuck all difference and you know it, and if you think you could really detect that difference you're a liar.

Most of those bikes are steel hipstermobiles anyway, not the bike of someone who cares about flex.

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>>1038855
not everyone is some manlet faggot who spends all day on the hoods

>>1038855
>i got btfo so lets save face by claiming [topic i had strong opinion on smaller detail in] is entirely unimportant
Go fuck yourself with a rake, casual shitposter.

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>>1038855
That's the pinnacle of steel race bikes. The last steel bike to win the TDF. With a threadless stem it would have a huge stack of spacers the way Indurain had it set up.

>>1038856
What has that got to do with anything? You can have the bars in the exact same position with either of the three solutions I proposed.

Regardless, yes you should be spending most of the time in the hoods, it's the primary position. The drops are for getting more aero and should be the lowest position you can manage, if you can stay in them all day then your bars are too high.

>>1038858
> claiming [topic i had strong opinion on smaller detail in] is entirely unimportant
The fuck are you even trying to say? It seems like you're trying to say I somehow contradicted myself, perhaps in relation to the flex thing.

>>1038859
>With a threadless stem it would have a huge stack of spacers the way Indurain had it set up.
Spacers, especially one piece conical that blend with the headset, look better than having the headtube sticking up. Regardless, either making the top tube higher or sloping it would solve that.

Also none of those bikes are race bikes where a minute amount of flex could possibly matter.

>>1038860
>Also none of those bikes are race bikes
Are you retarded or something? Did the midwife drop you? You're wrong. It's OK to be wrong when you're anonymous. Go to bed.

>>1038860
mate no one gives a fuck about your arbitrary bullshit, Indurain is one of the fastest men ever, and you're just talking shit

>>1038862
Go ahead, point out the race bike. I'm not talking about the Indurain posts, I'm talking about the ones I initially quoted.

>>1038863
>Indurain is one of the fastest men ever
And what? This is a thread about good looking bikes and the people that would be riding those bikes are not racers never mind being that guy's level.

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>>1038865
How about this hardcore motherfucker? Another rider who dominated the peleton. Aesthetics went out the window as soon as we started getting anal in wind tunnels. Steel Italian race bikes are THE nicest looking bikes and Indurain's pin went faster than any steel bike has or will ever. It's a utilitarian brute, but that is what is fast. 59x59 tig welded Oria tubes, 180mm cranks, ~9kg,

>>1038870
Brah, I don't know how many times I need to say this to you but we're not talking about race bikes or the people that rode them.

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>>1038873
they are the coolest people to have ever lived

>>1038873
No, were making fun of your spechul sense of aesthetics. That you think are relevant to the thread for some reason. They're not.
Out in the real world we non-autistic people find classic frame styles and their head tube very visually appealing. As well as being ideal from a ride quality perspective.

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One day I will own a grip shifting suspension Y-Foil

>>1039160
>why?-foil

>>1038540
I need to know what front rack that is please.

>>1039177
Salsa Minimalist

>>1039169
Damn. There's some seriously cool weight weenie goodness here. Looked it up, 16.5 pounds with pedals.

>>1039193
lol product recall

>>1039182
you're kidding right?

>>1038618
You are aware that 29" and 700c are in fact the same, aren't you?

>>1039974

Trueish. But try putting a 2.5'' MTB tire on a road wheel and a 25mm road slick on a 35mm internal diameter MTB rim, It's not going to work too well. There's different effective diameters and widths between the two.

>>1039175
>dat Huret Jubilee
hnnnnnnngggggggg

>>1039992
"700C" or "29er" both refer to a rim with a 622mm bead seat diameter. Neither specifies a width. Colloquialy speaking, "700C" is usually used when talking about road bike wheels that are generally skinnier, whereas "29er" is generally used when talking about mountain bike wheels, which are generally wider - but not always! Fucking Magic sold 17mm and 19mm wide MTB rims for years after we all quit riding 1.9" wide tires.

So when you said
>29'' wheels are generally stronger than a 700c wheel
it either implies that you don't know they're the same diameter rim, or you basically said "mountain bike wheels are stronger than road bike wheels" to which my response is "no shit sherlock"

>>1040002
Fuck autocorrect
*magic -> mavic

>>1039160
That looks retarded m8. What the point of suspension on such small wheels?

>>1039175
what do you call that spoke lace pattern?

>>1042215
crow's foot

>>1039165
I'm all for fancy frame designs, but what exactly does this thing offer and does it even work?

>>1038540
the stem/headset riser on this bike ruins the look

>>1038540
What is the point in not having fenders?

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Bike shop near me is selling this beautiful thing. I want it but

>$1,750

rip

>>1042222
Nice digits, iirc it saves weight and provides a little flex in the frame to help absorb impacts.

And of course, it's collectable.

>>1042237
That's ridiculous

>>1038627
>bike packing on a carbon bike

>>1042237
Hardly even worth 500.

>>1038726
what's the matter, have you weak legs?

>>1038827
Cool

>>1039168
Those cans must be empty because if full the entire cargo would weight about three tons.

also, why is /n/ so crazy about racing bicycles? They are uncomfy and unpractical as fuck.

>>1044863
Road bicycles are not necessarily racing bicycles. And they're pretty comfy.

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It has to be a Mercian Pro Lugless with a flite saddle, Strads lgg's, krysium elites, compact bars and an ultegra mechanical gruppo. A fast, strong everyday machine.

>>1038827
>>1038828
>lugged road bike ss conversion
>"fappable"
I'm envious of your ability to be pleased so easily.

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>>1042237
>$1,750 for a $500 CL bike
Sounds like they're trying to take you... for a ride.

>>1038550
That town looks comfy in a North American way.

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Why yall fapping to raod bikes?

can we get morning mountain eating stuff in here?

Trek Stache
29er plus tyres
SUPER short chainstays for wheelie galore and massive fun
PURPLE

Are these as elusive as the delta v? If i find one ima slap on some bar ends, put my walkman in my fanny pack and listen to Alanis Morissette until my triple chainring or v brakes wear out.

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>>1045071
derp

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>>1045070
an another just to fill the dual suspension void in this thread

Canyon strive
just look at it

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>>1045073
looks like a fucking chopper- are they selling that as a dh or a trail bike? I like my FS better.

>>1045075
slack angle are the best mane

Its an enduro bike, these days they will tackle the same descents as downhill bikes.

I can't tell what that is but my best guess is stumpjumper or lapierre.

nice bike either way

>>1045070
That raised driveside chainstay is pretty clever. I wonder if it has any effect on the overall stiffness/strength of the rear triangle.

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>>1045072
Carbon versions are pretty rare, but aluminum versions aren't too hard to find. Sold this one a few months ago for around $600.

>>1045070
>non-symmetric chainstays
W T F

>>1045081
It's to provide clearance for plus sized tyres.

>>1045082
You fucking with me nigger?
Look at the pic once more and tell me how raised right chainstay and traditional left one makes more space for tyres. Or are you thinking the wheel should go in at an angle?

>>1045083
The other side doesn't have the chain line to avoid. I think that's what it's for, at least.
>The most noticeable feature of the Stache's aluminum frame is the elevated driveside chainstay, a design element that experienced a brief era of popularity in the 1990s before being superseded by the now-ubiquitous double diamond configuration. The elevated stay on the Stache combined with the heavily manipulated seat tube are what allow for such a short rear end, due to the fact that potential issues with chainring and/or tire clearance are eliminated.

>>1045081
Chain clearance

>>1045084
>>1045085
The hell?
Always thought they'd elevate both sides. Man, this looks wonky.

>>1045086
Yeah, they usually elevate both. They clearly wanted this one bike to be a speshul snowflaek

>>1045075
It's an all mountain/enduro bike.

Don't forget that because it has more travel it also sags deeper when you mount it.

Also the strive has some shapeshifter shit that can change the head angle by a few degrees with a switch.

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>>1038557
Not 29+ but why would you need that

>>1045083
>>1045086
Normally, with the chainstay connected to the bottom bracket, the forward end of the drive-side chainstay would need to curve inward to clear the chainring. With the wheel slammed right up to the BB like it is in that bike, such a bend would severely limit tire clearance. Moving the attachment point upward clears the chainring while allowing the chainstay to stay "wide" all the way to the end.

Without chainrings on the non-drive side, such a move isn't needed. My guess is that it's stronger to attach the chainstay at the bottom bracket (hence my earlier question about stiffness).

Of course, past a certain tire size with 29+ you run into chainline issues, and need to move the chainring(s) further outboard like Surly does with its fat bikes.

>>1045070

god damn

I don't even MTB but dat clearance

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>>1038726
>>1038561
but it has an internal gear hub. are you retarded or something.

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>>1045079
>That raised driveside chainstay is pretty clever. I wonder if it has any effect on the overall stiffness/strength of the rear triangle.

Consensus in the 90s was that these frames are noodly as fuck in the BB area. Maybe they'll do better with modern materials. Also, almost all of the 90s bikes had both stays elevated, which probably made frame flex a lot worse.

>>1045081
>>1045083
The elevated driveside chainstay is pretty much necessary if you want a short rear end + fat tires + a decent chainline. It's for tire-to-chainring clearance; note how tight they are and how there's no room for a chainstay between them.

The left side has no chainring to clear.

>>1045086
Sometimes, symmetry is just a hobgoblin of simple minds. Bikes are already asymmetric in nature due to the drivetrain; acknowledging this frees up constraints on the frame geometry significantly (especially when wide tires are involved)

I can think of several other asymmetric frame designs. For example, the mid-2000s Specialized Epic had a *dropped* driveside chainstay on the rear suspension to clear the front derailleur cage.

>>1045087
>speshul snowflaek
Single elevated stay is definitely a "thing" for 2017, the new Salsa Woodsmoke has one as well. Expect to see more come out this year as we continue to move towards 3" wide tires, slack HT angles, and ever-shorter chainstays.

>>1045326
Do you think plus (27 and 29) are both here to stay?

>>1045339
yes

especially for hardtails. more compliance, more grip.
you can be faster on thin tyres if you are a better rider but 90% of us will have more fun on plus tyres.

There is a place for everything but I think plus tyred hardtails will be the norm entry lvl bike soon

>>1045339
I think 29+ is always going to be a niche thing. 29ers with "normal" 2.5" wide tires are already a little bit too big and unweildy on smaller frames, and it only gets worse as the tires get bigger. Also with larger diameter wheels, you can only shorten the chainstays so much before the tire runs into the bottom bracket - 29+ just isn't really compatible with where frame geo is going. Both the Trek Stache and Salsa Woodsmoke make some compromises to fit 29+ in addition to smaller wheels, and I expect them to become dedicated 27.5+ models in a year or two.

2017-2020, I expect the MTB industry to mostly come together around 27.5/650B rims with 2.8" - 3.5" wide tires for the majority of bikes.

Some serious XC race guys will still prefer 29ers with 2.0" - 2.5" wide tires; this will probably remain the wheel/tire size of choice for lightweight full-squish 80mm travel bikes. 26+ will have a place on high-travel DH bikes, and there will of course continue to be fatbikes with 26" rims and 4" - 6" wide tires.

But I really don't see a future for 29+ (or 27.5 fatbikes) outside of some very small niches. And as sad as I am to say it, 26ers with 2.5" tires don't have much of a future left.

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Man I love lefties

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>>1045453
me too man

>>1045450

I love reading predictions like this. Do you have any more

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Simplicity is key

>>1045479
>that trippy ass linkage and bb placement

I like it.

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>>1045453
me too bro

>>1045326
>>1045450
It's too bad differently-sized wheelsets never seemed to be much more than a novelty. With modern front travel and head tube angles I could see frames being built for 29" up front and either 26/27.5/29 in the back, depending on frame size and desired chainstay length.

>>1045524
GT is kind of obsessive about optimizing pedaling performance on FS bikes. They go out of their way to keep the BB in the most "ideal" position across the rear suspension travel and minimize any power loss to the suspension during pedaling.

Back in the earlier days of full suspension when nearly everyone had a pivot point right behind the BB, GT started building the BB shell into the "moving" rear part of the frame so that the effective chainstay length wouldn't change as the suspension squished.

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Ma new bike

>>1045596
>so that the effective chainstay length wouldn't change as the suspension squished.
They actually do the opposite, they purposely make the chainstay length increase so that pedal input makes the suspension extend instead of compress.

>>1038592

Put some oil or wax on that chain please. You can even use butter or olive oil. A rusty chain like this will add extra resistance and wear down the crankset and rear cogs extra fast.

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>>1045596
my first FS was/is like riding a pogo stick

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>>1045453
>>1045479
>>1045562

Me too senpai

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Lefty fork triggers me. Its unnatural.

>>1046525
That's a wheel failure, nothing to do with the lefty. I think they look pretty cool though I've never ridden one

>>1038550

These Rolf Vector wheels, congrats on that bike

> no Quantum Race tho

>>1046529
what do you mean by wheel faliure? Can wheels randomly just give out on you?? wtf

>>1046556
if you do something stupid and land badly you can taco any wheel. Doesnt matter if its on a left fork or not... i'm not a fan of leftys either though.. its just another meme part imo

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Been trying to find a job this semester to help get me on of these.

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>>1045562

>>1038540
when your mama so fat she didn't just bend the seatpost she bent the reinforced seat tube too

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>>1046579
Dope. Picked up this We The People "Curse" today for $150

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>>1046593
Burn.

>>1044863
> empty tins

That's most likely tea and therefore you are wrong.

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>>1045491
then how about getting rid of the bars?
Granted, this cutie has a three-speed. Should get rid of that as well.

>>1045068
hell yes

>>1046789
Can't do bar spins on that trash. Its about that 9t driver

>>1045562

>Running a Saint on a fixie

Only made funnier if it's got finned metal pads and an Icetech rotor...

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>>1045491
>TFW you ride your first properly fit bmx bike